Morning Coffee Endorses Tom Osborne
DJ Augustin continues to impress suitors. One of the myths about NBA Draft prospects - most recently promulgated over at Barking Carnival - is the over-emphasis on a player's height, be it with shoes or without. Logical as it may seem, hoops junkies know from experience that it's a player's reach and wingspan which greater define his build in the vertical dimension.
(As a fun aside: I learned this in 8th grade when we played Kealing Middle School and I for the first time met Wells. Like me, he was tall, skinny, and pretty gangly, but unlike me he was a defensive menace far beyond his height because of his utterly stupendous reach. It wasn't until we became friends in high school that I realized the full extent of his freakdom: Wells can touch his knees with his hands without bending his back. Go ahead - try it. See?)
The issue is worth mentioning because pro scouts aren't nearly as dismissive of Augustin as one might conclude just based on his standing height. Though he remains one of the most vertically challenged players in this year's draft class, DJ's standing reach measured out at 7'10.5", which as ESPN.com's Chad Forde notes ($), puts him among company who've already proven they can play the NBA point:

So while some fans are worried that Augustin is only 5-foot-10 in socks, that's not the key for NBA front offices. They want more info. What is his wingspan? What is his standing reach? How explosive is he athletically? All of those variables factor into the equation.
In Augustin's case, he measures out as a legitimate point guard prospect with a standing reach that exceeds Chris Paul's by an inch and a half and matches Mike Conley's and Jordan Farmar's.
It's a minor point, but for Texas fans wondering whether DJ is likely to fall in the draft because of his height, he's measuring out long and explosive enough in other metrics to be drafted for his basketball abilities.
Tom Osborne gives meaning to 'wisdom through experience'. Thank God I decided at the last moment not to publish "The Evil of the Status Quo: Tom Osborne & Old People as Barriers to Change." Safe as such a conclusion might seem, we learned this weekend that the truth is quite the opposite: the legendary Cornhuskers coach is using his new status as Nebraska Athletic Director to preach some Amen-worthy change.
At the Big 12's annual meetings in Colorado Springs, Osborne talked about the state of big money college athletics and how he thinks things need to change, including:
A proposal to give athletes roughly $2,500 in expense money beyond their scholarships to help meet "the cost of attendance."
Yes, yes, and yes. There's an unfortunate tendency among college sports fans to make the argument that athletes are damn lucky to be getting the free education and should be grateful for as much. That argument might be decisive in some alternate universe without multi-million dollar TV contracts, wherein fans followed their collegiate teams by meandering through the turnstiles for 50 cents to sit in the stale bleachers of spartan stadiums.
But in the present environment, these athletes support a multi-billion dollar industry which disproportionately benefits the schools, the athletics departments, the surrounding business industries, and the fans. Though I happen not to especially begrudge the enormity of college athletics these days, I do find laughable the suggestion that the gladiators in the ring should just be grateful for the opportunity. This particular pie is too large not to share more slices with the entertainers themselves. Especially when so many are plucked from disadvantaged backgrounds.
Not only that, but there's a practical element to this kind of thinking, insofar as a modest, justifiable stipend for athletes serves to lessen the temptations from all the scuzzy outside influences who wish to purchase their services and loyalty.
More from Osborne:
Putting pressure on the NBA to either draft a kid out of high school or wait three years after high school to draft him.
"If [the NBA] wants to take them right out of high school, then take them right out of high school," Osborne said. "But for heaven's sakes, don't let them come to school for one year. One-and-done is not a healthy situation."
This is also sensible. Especially insightful is Osborne's understanding that the current model offers an incomplete solution to a properly identified problem. There's no fundamental evil in allowing high school basketball players to jump immediately to the pros if they are ready and the NBA agrees. But for those who aren't, a better system wouldn't create such an awkward situation for colleges in which there's a very odd market for very clearly one-year players.
The involvement of shoe companies and AAU coaches with youth basketball also alarms Osborne because of the influence they wield in the recruiting process.
"I'm not sure how to regulate that, but there should be some way to introduce some sanity into the process," he said.
Perhaps not a progressive idea, but a good one nonetheless, with the operative word here being 'sanity.' Again, this ties in neatly with Osborne's thoughts on the athlete stipend. Anyone and everyone outside the official NCAA arena is treating these kids like the commodities that they are, the denial of which neither makes it less so nor actively dissuades the athletes' complicity.
Osborne is also in favor of merit pay for top football officials to help keep them from jumping to the NFL. It's a proposal that has been embraced by league athletic directors and Big 12 commissioner Dan Beebe.
Another fine idea, and in its own way, another prong of the main points above: This is big business - every bit as big as the professional leagues. And if we're not so naive as to believe that's going to change, can we at least address some of the sports' problems in a manner admitting of the realities of the situation?
Hammering home the point, the article concludes:
As the football coach at Nebraska for 25 seasons ending in 1997, Osborne wasn't a proponent of the Big Eight Conference merging with Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech and Baylor to form the Big 12.
Now, he is helping to shape and reform its bylaws.
"I think there's been some good things with the Big 12," Osborne said. "More viable TV markets with the state of Texas in it. It's a strong league and a powerful league."
Osborne worries too many decisions are being based on money and that the athlete has been left behind.
"The student-athlete has probably gone backwards over the last 40 years in terms of the value of a scholarship," said Osborne, 71, who won three national titles at Nebraska in the 1990s.
"At one time, student-athletes got $15 a month for laundry in the 1960s. Those dollars would now be worth $80 a month. At one time, they had travel sports jackets and movie passes for student-athletes, and those things have been taken away.
"So what we've seen are coaches' salaries escalating, facility expansion and renovation escalating, and yet the economic plight of most student-athletes is not as good as it was 30 or 40 years ago. I think those are things we need to take a look at."
[emphasis added]
Bingo.
It'd be one thing if college athletics wasn't the multi-billion dollar commercial industry that it is, but barring the reversal of that (Ha!), it's nigh-time we talk more realistically about the issues therein.
After reading this fresh of breath air, I'm officially all for locking Osborne and Bobby Knight in a room together to let them come up with some sensible solutions to the problems the entrenched interests (including us fans) are too dysfunctional to discuss.
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Wells, is an orangutan? Who knew?!
It's a Horns' world. Even Aggies play hoops with a burnt orange ball.
Is it football season YET?
by Speedway on
Jun 9, 2008 7:53 AM CDT
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Monkey arms, bitches!
What PB failed to mention is that unlike me he could actually shoot from the outside, as long as he did not have to create his own shot.
by Wells on
Jun 9, 2008 10:36 AM CDT
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With those arms you must have been a defensive force of your own!

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Is it football season YET?
by Speedway on
Jun 9, 2008 10:43 AM CDT
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Well done
I’m with Osborne on these points as well. Now if only the Big XII were more interested in pushing the agenda of its athletes rather than trying to garner an extra year of eligibility out of its football players and tightly clutching at its BCS playtoy.
by jc25 on
Jun 9, 2008 9:11 AM CDT
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Disagree about paying college athletes
I understand that the schools and the NCAA make mega bucks off the images, names, and abilities of these athletes. But I feel like the athletes are being very well compensated for it, at least in major programs. I used to work with a number of former college athletes from major BCS schools (including our beloved University of Texas), and anyone who thinks these guys don’t get a dime above and beyond the cost of their education and room and board is tremendously ill-informed. It might actually disgust some of you to know all the benefits (monetary and non-monetary) that they have access to. It’s very easy for them, especially the ones who come from disadvantaged backgrounds, to say “well, your dad can put $100 in your checking account whenever you need it. Mine can’t.” What they leave out is that the university probably spent 20 times that much just for them on their last road trip, much of it on crap that is definitely not a travel necessity, and they’ll do it all over again for the next one.
I’m tired of hearing how poor and under-appreciated these guys are. They do not want for anything, athletically, academically, or socially. They get a free education in an environment that is designed so that they basically have to TRY to fail. And they get a chance to earn a 7 or 8 figure salary after a few years (or less) of life on the gravy train. If that isn’t good enough, maybe they should go back to their hometowns, flip a few burgers, and thank God that the NCAA is no longer exploiting them.
As for a sanctioned stipend lessening the occurrence of mischief, I tend to think it will do the opposite. It’s the perfect front for under-the-table activity at schools that are already breaking the rules, and I think it will only open the floodgates wider.
by bassale47 on
Jun 9, 2008 9:50 AM CDT
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I agree the stipend doesn't sound like a good idea.
Besides, giving the ALL players a stipend would only drive up the amount of money that shady characters would throw at SOME athletes.
But bassale, when you’re talking about all the “crap that is definitely not a travel necessity” you realize that it’s that “crap,” the amenities that can wow some recruits. Although it would be nice to think that all the recruits choose UT for it’s education, career training, football history, etc. we also have to remember some recruits have more of a gimme attitude.
So if we aren’t providing those amenities the recruits would hear that UT doesn’t have nice facilities, accommodations or amenities. It’s all an arms race for the biggest, brightest, and best “crap”.
I think Osborne has several nice points. I don’t think the stipend is one of them. So the football program brings in a lot of cash. So they players should be paid? I got my BS from the College of Engineering, which brings in by FAR the most research dollars to UT. Should I have gotten paid to study and perform research there? Someone should have looked at me as an eighteen year old kid and noticed that I was the next engineering prodigy, and given me a lot of bassales “crap” so that I wouldn’t have gone to another school.
It's a Horns' world. Even Aggies play hoops with a burnt orange ball.
Is it football season YET?
by Speedway on
Jun 9, 2008 10:10 AM CDT
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Sorry, Speedy
It’s not the undergrad engineering students who are bringing in the dough. No one fills a stadium to watch you solve differential equations.
If the system were not so predatory and corrupt, a student loan program would take care of everyone. But what student athletes give up is the opportunity to take work-study jobs to help pay their way. They still put in the hours and the university gets the profits, so why shouldn’t they get paid at least the same as a lab assistant or office worker?
Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.
by Caradoc on
Jun 9, 2008 10:22 AM CDT
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I'd been thinking that was a Jack Handey quote in your sig line.
Nice work. Here’s one of my favorites
It’s sad that a family can be torn apart by something as simple as a pack of wild dogs.
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Is it football season YET?
by Speedway on
Jun 9, 2008 10:34 AM CDT
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re: Jack Handey
I wish I had a kryptonite cross, that way I could keep away vampires & Superman.
by Shake on
Jun 9, 2008 10:39 AM CDT
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Or maybe this one for Benson's post-Bears career
When you go in for a job interview, I think a good thing to ask is if they ever press charges.
It's a Horns' world. Even Aggies play hoops with a burnt orange ball.
Is it football season YET?
by Speedway on
Jun 9, 2008 10:48 AM CDT
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Yes, it's by Handey
“When you’re riding in a time machine way far into the future, don’t stick your elbow out the window, or it’ll turn into a fossil.”
Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.
by Caradoc on
Jun 9, 2008 11:13 PM CDT
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Because they are amateurs
The lab assistant doesn’t get free tuition and room & board. The office worker doesn’t get free trips home to visit their family or free tickets to games to pass out to whomever they choose or all the other hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of benefits that an athlete receives over the course of his or her college career. Do you honestly think that it’s the athlete that’s coming out with the short end of that stick?
by bassale47 on
Jun 9, 2008 10:36 AM CDT
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How do you know
that this theoretical lab student did not get an academic scholarship? The only difference is that his scholarship does not force him to not get paid for his lab assistant job.
by Wells on
Jun 9, 2008 10:40 AM CDT
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People on academic scholarships don't get offered work-study
I had an academic scholarship that covered pretty much everything that my government-sponsored aid (about $500 per semester) did not cover but only up to the total of my tuition, fees, and a housing allowance based on the cost of on-campus room and board. I did not qualify for government loans, and I could not get a paying job anywhere on campus because of my scholarship status.
Yes, I could (and did) get a job off campus to pay the rest of my bills. I didn’t have a choice. My parents had 3 kids in college at the same time and made less than $100k a year combined, and I knew if I wanted a college education, I was going to have bust my ass for it. And I was pretty damn grateful for the simple fact that I wasn’t going to graduate with a mountain of debt. I didn’t need all of the extra garbage.
I realize that the NCAA didn’t make a dime off my name, but I don’t understand how that matters at all. The NCAA isn’t a public corporation. The athletes aren’t stakeholders in some profit-sharing plan. They accept their athletic scholarships knowing all of this. Why should they be allowed to bitch and moan after the fact that they’re being taken advantage of?
I would like for just one scholarship athlete at a major D1 program to explain the financial hardship placed on their family, due to their participation in college sports. And no, having to buy your own movie ticket or do your own laundry, as Osborne is asserting today’s athletes have to do, does not count as financial hardship.
by bassale47 on
Jun 9, 2008 12:06 PM CDT
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Touché
I guess you know more about our theoretical lab student than I did.
by Wells on
Jun 9, 2008 1:25 PM CDT
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Don't know too much about the scholarship situation
but my roommate is on full academic + spending cash scholarship and he has a job tutoring on campus, so it is possible.
by ryanlionrah on
Jun 10, 2008 12:32 AM CDT
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Lab assistants
Graduate students DO GET PAID as research assistants or teaching assistants. And that is on top of free tuition.
by Loisaida Horn on
Jun 9, 2008 7:13 PM CDT
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No one fills up a stadium to watch YOU solve Diff EQ's, maybe...
I sense jealousy.
by Horn Brain on
Jun 9, 2008 10:51 AM CDT
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I get that it's about recruiting
... and I’m not saying it should be taken away. I don’t see anything wrong with the team getting to go to the movies during their down time on the road or having a nice dinner at a fancy restaurant that they wouldn’t be able to afford on their own. I’m just saying it isn’t a necessity of travel. Osborne seems to be suggesting that their basic needs are not being met, and that is absolute BS. I’m also just saying it should be more than enough. Where does it end? When they all have 60” flat-panel screens in their dorm rooms and Range Rovers in the parking garage? Is that where we can finally draw the line and say enough is enough?
by bassale47 on
Jun 9, 2008 10:30 AM CDT
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I see it differently
I actually do appreciate what you’re saying, but it just seems to me half the story.
I’m also just saying it should be more than enough. Where does it end? When they all have 60" flat-panel screens in their dorm rooms and Range Rovers in the parking garage? Is that where we can finally draw the line and say enough is enough?
Enough is never enough for the university presidents, athletics directors, and fans, is it? This is a gigantic business, and as much as the system is set up to separate the players from the business, it’s not clear to me that the status quo is particularly equitable, all things considered. Not only that, but it’s almost nonsensical to even talk about “enough” values given how money-driven everything the whole thing is. The brakes haven’t been so much as tapped as the big money sports have slowly but surely morphed into semi-pro leagues.
Admittedly, I’d want to put together a study before I fully endorsed any kind of plan for providing player stipends, but at least on principle, there seems to me little ground on which to stand and talk in terms other than the pie of money. That’s what it’s all about, whether we like it or not.
--PB--
by PB @ BON on
Jun 10, 2008 5:42 AM CDT
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I could be wrong
But I have a feeling the lawyers (especially the tax ones) will make this a headache, if they don’t kill it entirely.
It’s very easy for athletic scholarships to fall outside the bounds of IRC 117, which excludes scholarship monies from income. The current IRS position on the subject is still governed by Rev Rul 77-263 (circa 1977), which is comically out of step with the big business approach of today’s D-I athletic programs, and as interpreted after the revisions of IRC 117 in 1986, assumes no money beyond academic requirements. Fed. Tax’n Income, Est.& Gifts ¶ 11.2
If Rev Rul 77-263 status is lost, there’s a chance that programs could run afoul of cases holding that student-athletes are not covered by workers compensation programs, creating an insurance headache for the universities.
53 Ohio St. L.J. 1401
I don’t have the time to look deeply into it now, but if it won’t get me banned from BON I’ll try to summarize some of the legal hurdles in something short enough for a fanpost. I don’t necessarily disagree with Osbourne, but paying the athletes even a small stipend could have larger ramifications.
by learned hand on
Jun 10, 2008 12:58 PM CDT
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full disclosure
I’m a tax nerd with a football fixation
by learned hand on
Jun 10, 2008 12:58 PM CDT
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Would love to read the legal brief on this issue
It’s a very relevant topic.
Thanks for this info
--PB--
by PB @ BON on
Jun 10, 2008 1:34 PM CDT
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If you get time create your own FanPost
I’d love to read it
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Is it football season YET?
by Speedway on
Jun 10, 2008 2:13 PM CDT
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Wrong Metaphor
The people who bring in the money to the College of Engineering are the faculty and graduate research assistants, all of whom are compensated. Faculty are obviously well paid but even grad students earn both free tuition & a pay check. And as wonderful and hardworking as these geeks are … they don’t bring in the dough of a starter on the Longhorn football team, now do they?
by Loisaida Horn on
Jun 9, 2008 7:11 PM CDT
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Bringing in the dough
I’d be willing to bet that the UT COE brings in more money a year than the Football team, hell, the entire Athletic Dept. It may not seem as flashy or done as publicly, but with the amount of research done at UT they probably bring in some serious coin in government grants.
by afaeguy on
Jun 9, 2008 10:49 PM CDT
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The geeks bring in a lot more than the jocks
As amazing as our football program is, UT’s status as one of the world’s premier research institutions is significantly better.
You’re correct in saying that the COE compensates employees, with some 39 mill being paid in salary (30 of which the professors take). The research side of the university brings in approximately 360 million in terms of commissioned research and grants. I don’t have the urge to separate how much of that comes from COE projects, (the grant money in the annual report is by line item rather than college) but it’s certainly disproportionate. Combine that with the fact UT Austin is incorporating and exploiting intellectual property developed by profs and grad students, and we’re talking serious, serious money.
The football program brought in approximately 53 million in 06, of which almost 39 million was profit. But the football program pays for the continued existence of the athletic programs, and after that is done, there’s not a lot of money left over for the school, with $74,165 left over after taking care of athletic and ancillary expenses for the 05-06 year. I don’t begrudge the players a thing, but at the end of the day the football program doesn’t bring nearly the money into the academic side of the house people would like to believe (and no, alumni donations are not significantly better because of the football team, I once studied that extensively).
Additionally, it’s not an apples to apples comparison between grad students and undergraduates. Grad students have degrees, and if they’re engineering degrees, those diplomas would bring significantly more money in the private sector than they do on the campus. Football players don’t have the option of plying their trade in the NFL until they’re two years out of college. You don’t have to pay them to get them to play for you, you do have to pay graduate students enough to live in order to keep them from leaving.
/Liberal Arts alum, UT lost money on me.
by learned hand on
Jun 10, 2008 12:51 AM CDT
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Thanks learned hand.
I saw Loisaida’s comment last night but didn’t have time to post. You beat me to it.
UT lost money on you? Where are you attending law school? If it’s UT, then maybe they’re playing for double or nothing.
It's a Horns' world. Even Aggies play hoops with a burnt orange ball.
Is it football season YET?
by Speedway on
Jun 10, 2008 7:38 AM CDT
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They lost money
on Joe Jamail and Red McCombs too, up to a point.
by horndude on
Jun 10, 2008 9:05 AM CDT
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Haha, no more an acknowledgement that the liberal arts departments don’t bring much in the way of grant money or valuable IP compare to COE or Natural sciences and there’s really not an avenue to get it back.
I’m actually at Tulane, so they lost that chance to make a lot of of money off me. UT will wind up with anything I can afford to give away after the loans are done though.
/crosses fingers for Jamail money.
by learned hand on
Jun 10, 2008 1:08 PM CDT
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The NBA
People fail to realize that the NBA did not institute the one-year rule for the benefit of colleges or the players. They did it because they felt the quality of the league was potentially jeopardized as so many scouts were chasing high school “phenoms” in what was basically crapshoots to find the next Lebron. This was a formula to find more busts than Bryants, and the NBA acted to curb this.
If you say college athletics is a business, the NBA is more so. They have zero obligation to get rid of the one-and-done rule if they don’t think it is in the interest of the league itself. In this regard, I think they are correct, as the level of play is no longer diluted by straight-out-of-high school kids who are there purely on potential. For every successful player out of high school, you can find plenty who either failed completely or are mediocre/average players.
And I find it hard to conceive of a legal way for the NCAA to prevent one-and-dones. They don’t have the authority to prevent anyone from dropping out of school. The only thing they can do is possibly punish the program if a player comes for a year and takes off, but few would think that is very constructive or fair.
Osbourne may be right about college football, but he seems clueless about the basketball situation.
by TheElusiveShadow on
Jun 9, 2008 2:33 PM CDT
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Agree
Furthermore, promoting a policy that would allow players to either be drafted directly out of high school or have to wait three years does nothing to address the reason the NBA instituted the one-year rule in the first place. “High potential” players would still most likely go straight to the NBA and, more often than not, end up as busts. The players serving their three-year term are most likely those who wouldn’t have been good enough to be drafted until they were upperclassmen anyway.
by gwh65 on
Jun 9, 2008 2:57 PM CDT
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More often than not end up as busts?
That’s just not true. Straight out of high school players have a much higher success rate in the NBA than their college counterparts, even accounting for draft pick.
The reason the NBA doesn’t want these kids drafted out of high school is that even though they know most of them will be great eventually, they would prefer that they play in college for a couple of years while they further develop their games, so the NBA doesn’t have to pay them before they’re at their peak.
by Texas Wahoo on
Jun 9, 2008 4:32 PM CDT
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Bust may be a strong word
but I think you’re wrong that college players have a lower rate of success. Here’s a few articles that have gone into some deeper analysis. The Nichols article from NBADraft.net is especially skewed towards an evaluation based on expectation relative to draft pick.
http://www.nbadraft.net/nichols005.asp
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/draft2005/columns/story?id=2063740
http://www.docsports.com/high-school-players-drafted-in-the-nba-draft.html
And I completely disagree that NBA teams don’t want to pay these kids until they’re at their peak. Would the Atlanta Hawks balk at the opportunity to pay the next Lebron James in his first few years just because he’s not fully developed? The NBA instituted the one-year rule because it realized that their teams were taking risks on kids who, more often than not, weren’t panning out.
by gwh65 on
Jun 9, 2008 5:06 PM CDT
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I dont see him as clueless
He never stated that it was not working for the NBA, he said he wanted to pressure the NBA to change their rule. This could be done by in a lot of ways, but one is to threaten to institute a rule where teams are charged for scholarships for two years, even if a player leaves for one (i.e. K State next year could only have 12 scholarships because Beasley left early, but not Walker, since he has been there 2 years).
by Wells on
Jun 9, 2008 3:24 PM CDT
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I'm not sure that's fair
Schools cannot always predict who’s going to be one and done. Like I pointed out earlier, schools or the NCAA can’t force anyone to stay, and punishing the programs isn’t going to stop kids from leaving early. It sure won’t stop coaches from recruiting stars; if they didn’t, some other coach will come in and swipe him, happy to ride that player for one year.
That goes for any conceivable “punishment” for the school. Basically, programs are punished for simply doing what they’re supposed to, which is recruit. Nothing happens to the athletes themselves who decide to leave after their first year, and thus there is nothing besides school loyalty which will prevent them from going. And I’m willing to bet school spirit looks a lot less important in the face of millions of dollars. Even if they forced the athletes to give back their scholarship money if they left early, which is possible, it would do little to deter players like Mayo, Oden, Durant, etc.
I therefore can’t see how they can possibly pressure the NBA into doing much of anything, unless someone takes it to court (like Maurice Clarett, which didn’t work out for him). The NBA will do what they believe is best for their league, not what’s necessarily ideal for colleges and their athletes.
by TheElusiveShadow on
Jun 9, 2008 4:26 PM CDT
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Punishing the program
Will force the coaches to better consider who they are giving their scholarships to, reducing the demand for one and done players.
That goes for any conceivable "punishment" for the school. Basically, programs are punished for simply doing what they’re supposed to, which is recruit. Nothing happens to the athletes themselves who decide to leave after their first year, and thus there is nothing besides school loyalty which will prevent them from going. And I’m willing to bet school spirit looks a lot less important in the face of millions of dollars. Even if they forced the athletes to give back their scholarship money if they left early, which is possible, it would do little to deter players like Mayo, Oden, Durant, etc.
This argument could be made for players that cheat, but you still have to punish the program if you want to stop cheating. If you want to stop one and done, then make a punishment that is strong enough to deter it.
by Wells on
Jun 9, 2008 4:47 PM CDT
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I don't think it'll work
Nor do I think it is fair. I don’t think the argument is the same for cheating players; those players are breaking set rules under the very noses of the university, even if the program itself is not directly invovled. This in fact jeopardizes the players status as an amateur while he is still playing and effects the games themselves. Since this happens during the time the player is at the school, the program does have some level of authority over the situation.
However, a player that leaves early (and doesn’t cheat or do anything illegal) is not secretly playing when his amateur status is in doubt. He makes a decision (a public one at that) to renounce his eligibility to go professional. It is difficult to see how we can punish the schools for such a natural step.
Besides, as I said above, I find it hard to conceive of a punishment that will be a strong enough deterrent for all Division 1A programs that does not go overboard. Coaches will gladly risk punishment to grab a star player who will help them win, even with full knowledge that they’ll leave after a year. Even if the punishment is strong enough to deter a program from grabbing such players every single year, all they need to do is “stagger” their selection and those players will easily find a home at another school. The punishment would have to be so strong that it effectively cripples the program, which is patently unfair.
And after all this, it still is a far cry from convincing the NBA itself that they should accept 18 year olds again. If the NBA still believes that letting 18 year olds in is generally bad for their league, it doesn’t matter if the NCAA sets fire to basketball gyms of schools who have one and dones. Those high schools kids aren’t getting in the league.
by TheElusiveShadow on
Jun 10, 2008 9:40 AM CDT
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Old guys
Add to Osborne the fact that Joe Paterno is in favor of a playoff. Not every old guy is impeding change, just some of them.
by Year2 on
Jun 9, 2008 3:32 PM CDT
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KJH alumni FTW
It’s a damn shame they changed their identity to Kealing Middle School. Like one of those disenchanted Southwest Texas State Bobcats, I want nothing to do with whatever the hell “Kealing Middle School” is.
by WorstFan on
Jun 9, 2008 9:40 PM CDT
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I believe circa 2004
At least Kealing.org confirms Mr. Hook, Mr. Hendrex, and Mr. Tyson, who’s undoubtedly still spitting his ridiculous Alex Jones-esque conspiracy theory psycho babble to impressionable 8th graders, are all still teaching there. Makes me feel slightly less old…
by WorstFan on
Jun 9, 2008 11:44 PM CDT
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I went to Kealing (Junior High).... It was badass…. Mr. Hendrex is still there. Wow. Last time I saw that guy, he had the longest hair in the world. And Mr. Tyson…., interesting character. Find out if Ms. Kirby is still teaching?
by saveadre on
Jun 10, 2008 10:20 AM CDT
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