Probable 2008 CFB storylines
With 60 days or so left until the start of the season, what storylines do you think will potentially emerge? To me the signs points to a few things:
1. Oklahoma, Missouri, and Ohio State have the best shot at going undefeated this season. USC has a slightly tougher obstacle in having to beat OSU on the road as well as tangle with improving Pac-10 foes. SEC teams like Georgia, Auburn, Tennessee, and Florida have either too daunting of a schedule (UGA, FL) or have too much pressure on a brand new QB (AUB) or both (Tennessee) to really be a threat to win out.
2. Parity. The last two years have been a dropoff from the epic 2005 season. I'm obviously biased from the Texas standpoint, but the numbers don't lie. Texas, USC, Penn State and a few other teams were dominant teams that could have compeated with any college football team in any season. The last couple of years you would be hard pressed to find any team that you could honestly make that claim about. While I believe the three teams mentioned above (OU, Mizzou, and OSU) have the best shot to run the table, don't expect an undefeated team in a BCS conference.
3. BYU. Get used to hearing about them. If I were BYU fan, I'd start making the travel plans to be in a BCS bowl game. As sad as it sounds, if they put together a Hawaii-like season they could find themselves playing for it all. They return a potent offense and might as would be more challenged facing the Utah School for the Blind 12 straight weeks.
4. Left field. Parity, injuries, schedules, underclassmen etc means that some teams will seemingly come out of no where to challenge for a spot at the top. By the same token, there are easily 3 to 4 preseason top 10 teams that may not be in the top 15 to end the season. Last year it was ASU, Kansas, and Illinois emerging. Most people seem to think Tech is the darkhorse to emerge this year, personally i think the darkhorse will come out of the ACC between VTech and Wake Forest. On the other hand teams like Clemson, WVA, and Auburn could easily drop following a tough offseason of injuries, arrests, uncertainty at the like.
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USC gets Ohio State at home
Minor correction.
Good post, though. I’m especially interested to see if last year was just a wacky anomaly or if we’re going to see any dominant teams this year.
--PB--
by Peter Bean on Jul 1, 2008 1:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Return of powerhouses
I think 2009 will be the return of the powerhouse teams.
OSU, Texas, USC, Georgia, OU, Florida will all have key players as upperclassmen as well as some impressive recruiting classes coming in. Add in a team like LSU, Bama, or even a - dare i say - Notre Dame and it could really shape up to be an amazing football season.
John Chiles - I'm your foster daddy!
by BMG on Jul 1, 2008 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
I think your Kansas, Missouri, Arizona State, etc… will start to fall off. The teams who are recruiting the best will emerge.
by Longhorns84 on Jul 2, 2008 7:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another thing
I don’t know that I’d consider any Big 12 team a favorite to go undefeated. This looks like it might be the toughest conference in the country to me. I’ll be a little surprised if any team goes undefeated.
--PB--
by Peter Bean on Jul 1, 2008 1:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Tough conference for sure
And while i think these teams have the best shot of the BCS conference teams to go undefeated I did say that I don’t think anyone outside of BYU will run the table. That said, I consider OU and Missou and the top chances to go undefeated because (1) they are the top 2 teams in their conference, (2) they don’t play each other, (3) They really have one or two key games on their schedule and they will be favored to win them.
OU plays Texas in Dallas, has kansas and tech at home, and goes on the road vs Okie State. Yeah its tough, but compared to the schedules of the other teams in the top 5 or 10 who play SEC teams or other Top 10 teams I would take the OU schedule or the Mizzou schedule.
Mizzou gets Illinois at home, goes to Texas, and gets Kansas at home.
Texas is the team that can foil both of these undefeated bids. If we’re healthy and get some quick results from Muschamp’s defense I’m optiimistic we could at least get a split.
John Chiles - I'm your foster daddy!
by BMG on Jul 1, 2008 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am optimistic about a split too
But I think if the Horns beat OU, then my optimism that they’ll also take down Mizzou will increase exponentially. More so then usual , I think that the RRS is the barometer for sucess in this year’s conference schedule.
It's a Horns' world. Even Aggies play hoops with a burnt orange ball.
Is it football season YET?
by Speedway on Jul 1, 2008 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If we get a split
I hope we take down OU. We don’t get a second shot at them (or, realistically, the Big 12 South).
by a0nyme on Jul 1, 2008 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thoughts on BYU
I have to admit I know a bit about BYU, having played there a few years ago. In terms of raw talent, there has never been a BYU team like this one before. The team is disciplined and the coaches are great. Its great to see the team getting some press, but to be honest I don’t think that they go undefeated. But I do take issue with the Hawaii comparison – BYU’s schedule may not be terribly tough, but its nothing like the creampuff Hawaii schedule. Remember, they play UCLA and Washington this year. But with a great OL, DL, QB and the best talent at WR we’ve had in a very long time, they will be fun to watch.
by PSUhorn on Jul 1, 2008 2:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hawaii-like season
not comparing schedules, just the idea of a non-BCS school running the table in fairly convincing fashion. BYU beat UCLA on the road last year if I remember correct and UCLA had a coaching change this off season. Washingon however is up and coming and could be a bit of challenge but I don’t think they have the defense to slow these guys down. The conference schedule is not much of a challenge and while I was exaggerating a bit it is safe to say they will not face a top 25 team or top 50 team until their bowl game. This is a good team and if they make it to a BCS bowl will at least deserve it more than Hawaii did.
John Chiles - I'm your foster daddy!
by BMG on Jul 1, 2008 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oklahoma and Mizzouri have the easiest roads???
Unless you count that little meeting in Dallas and that one here in Austin…..
We’ll win both of those.
God you people baffle me. Research our team a little bit more and maybe you will see what I see…. and that is a championship team in hiding. We’re young, but young guys are owning college sports right now. Even in football. We MIGHT lose one game this year. MIGHT.
by texasfan05 on Jul 1, 2008 2:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
With all my MIGHT, I hope your right.
It's a Horns' world. Even Aggies play hoops with a burnt orange ball.
Is it football season YET?
by Speedway on Jul 1, 2008 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
It's good to be optimistic
and I can see Texas having a great year, but at the same time, when there are growing pains, and there WILL be growing pains, don’t become just another angry belligerent fan. We still have to be realistic.
by owenh on Jul 1, 2008 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
angry belligerent fan??
As a fan I reserve the right to say that my team will win every game we ever play, and especially since I am a fan of The University of Texas.
Who cares if I’m not “realistic”???? Realistic is hear say anyways…. I’m not realistic if we end up going 9-3, but I am realistic if we end up going 12-0. Kiss my ass with Realistic talk. I go to school with these guys and I’ll put as much faith as I want to into these guys and God help me be right.
But even if I’m wrong, at least I can talk to these guys and tell them with a straight face that I believed in them, even tho most other fans were being “realistic.”
by texasfan05 on Jul 1, 2008 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hearsay?
I think when owenh says be realistic he’s inviting you to objectively look at the season ahead – ponder that – really contemplate it. Can you then say you really really really think the Horns will go 12-0. I don’t think you would.
Your rebuttal about realistic isn’t about realism it’s about looking back at season end and judging your original statement that we might lose a game. That’s called evaluating your predictions.
It's a Horns' world. Even Aggies play hoops with a burnt orange ball.
Is it football season YET?
by Speedway on Jul 1, 2008 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And all I'm saying is that
as a fan, I don’t have to do that.
Why are fans criticized when they are unrealistic??? Whats the matter with being unrealistic??
Whats the matter with judging your opinions, not on facts, but on gut feelings and faith?
I’ll leave the realistic points of views for unbiased sports writers. as a fan, ill choose the unrealistic point of view.
by texasfan05 on Jul 1, 2008 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A healthy dose of optimism never hurt anyone
There’s nothing inherently wrong with being unrealistic. Just like there’s nothing inherently wrong with being insane. When owenh asks you to be realistic he’s just trying to keep you from going insane if the team does go 9-3. Gasp!
It's a Horns' world. Even Aggies play hoops with a burnt orange ball.
Is it football season YET?
by Speedway on Jul 1, 2008 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whoa
Seriously, I’m all for you being as optimistic as you wanna be.
But I gotta agree: you sound angry. Differing viewpoints are welcome. Screaming that one is right is… less welcome.
There’s no right or wrong here.
--PB--
by Peter Bean on Jul 1, 2008 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wells is what realistic dreams of growing up to become. .nt whills
by Horn Brain on Jul 2, 2008 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you should make this sentence a little more ambiguous
It's a Horns' world. Even Aggies play hoops with a burnt orange ball.
Is it football season YET?
by Speedway on Jul 2, 2008 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not trying to anger anyone
I’m just saying if you go in super geeked up about going undefeated, and we god forbid lose a game, you (and me) will be totally pissed. Losing sucks.
The fact is this team does have potential, but there’s no way of knowing if its all gonna come together immediately. I know “we’re texas, we don’t rebuild”! but I’m sorry I just can’t see us going undefeated…
The fans I’m talking about being belligerent are the ones who think they have all the answers, blame everyone, whine about this and that, and why is so-and-so playing..and on and on, adding nothing of any real value to the conversation.
Do I want us to lose? No way! I live and die with the team just like you obviously do too. I just don’t want to set myself up for disappointment. I’m not demanding perfection of this texas team, not yet at least.
by owenh on Jul 1, 2008 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It doesn't matter
if we’re going into the season looking for a 12-0 season, or going into the season looking for a 6-6 season…. that first loss feels like a Kimbo Slice kicking you in the balls.
by texasfan05 on Jul 1, 2008 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its not even about softening the blow of a loss
As 05 said, every loss feels like a kick in the nuts.
I try to be more realistic because thats my nature. I claim every 10th meal to be the best thing I ever ate, even if its really good, and I dont start every year by proclaiming we will go undefeated.
That doesnt mean I dont expect and hope to win every game that we play.
Its hard for those two statements to make sense together, but thats my outlook. I think its super difficult for any team to go undefeated in a season, thus I dont expect that we will. But I dont see any game as unwinnable. Does that make any more sense?
Anyway, now Im rambling, Ill leave it at that.
by BoddickerIsClutch on Jul 1, 2008 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That does make more sense.
I’ve calmed down now, I’m just having Texas Football withdraws….
by texasfan05 on Jul 1, 2008 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doh
Third sentence should read – I DONT claim every
by BoddickerIsClutch on Jul 1, 2008 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What's there to research...
If all our supposed championship players haven’t shown it on the field yet? I think if you research the team, you see a lot of young guys with a lot of potential, but you don’t have to look hard to find guys with huge upside who never pan out. I consider myself optimistic, but saying we MIGHT lose one game when we play OU and Mizzou and Tech are better than they’ve ever been is a bit of a stretch. Not saying we WILL lose any of those games, but we sure as hell MIGHT. Oklahoma State and Kansas are dangerous as well. I’ll start predicting championships once I see results on the field.
by jw4425 on Jul 1, 2008 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Texas is a year away
This team has all the potential to be dominant in ‘09. But we really need to be realistic in ‘08 – I just don’t see it with this team and this schedule.
John Chiles - I'm your foster daddy!
by BMG on Jul 1, 2008 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
BMG is right
we are a really young team with a tough schedule and new coaches. in 2009 we will have had a full year to install the new D and we will have a year more experienced team and a cream puff schedule (besides OU).
by Hook'em13 on Jul 1, 2008 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
cream puff?
We play the same Big 12 teams
by Longhorns84 on Jul 2, 2008 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well
compare it to this years schedule and next years ou team will be cream puff compared to this years ou team. missouri= no chase daniels
by Hook'em13 on Jul 2, 2008 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Missouri
The next QB in line is pretty good, and its in Missouri.
by Longhorns84 on Jul 3, 2008 2:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Colt McCoy
can’t get it done this year, what makes you think he’ll do it next year?
by texasfan05 on Jul 1, 2008 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
its called
a sophomore slump. largely due to the fact that he was running for his life… now i understand that you are a anti McCoy boy but he is a good college qb and he CAN win a championship. and it will be a hell of a lot easier to win a national title with him that it will with your beloved chiles who cant hit the broad side of a barn.
by Hook'em13 on Jul 1, 2008 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
McCoy
Is the only QB currently on the team that has shown any kind of results that could lead me to believe we could win a conference championship let alone a national championship. While I love Chiles and believe he has a spot on the team and can be an awesome weapon but he hasn’t shown the sort of passing ability that can win a championship. He can be devastating in the open field and mack needs to figure out how to do that.
John Chiles - I'm your foster daddy!
by BMG on Jul 1, 2008 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Colt
We hope it was a Soph. slump.
by Longhorns84 on Jul 2, 2008 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not Colt that concerns many of us
We’re concerned by freshman RBs, receivers, and a young, but improving O-line.
by learned hand on Jul 1, 2008 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Really?
I’m not worried at all about the RB’s, Recievers, and young but improving O-line. They’re all gonna be great.
But we know what Colt is. And that’s what worries me
by texasfan05 on Jul 1, 2008 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You'd take a guy...
...who has never touched a football in front of a hundred thousand people, and never played football against near NFL competition, over the QB with the most accurate season and career in the history of Texas football?
by learned hand on Jul 1, 2008 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not saying that I want Chiles to play over Colt
All I said was that I am worried that Colt can’t get it done for us.
by texasfan05 on Jul 1, 2008 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Starting QB’s for BCS MNC winners.
2007 LSU- Matt Flynn/Ryan "Gamecock" Perriloux
2006 Florida- Chris Leak/Tebow
2005 Texas- VY
2004 USC- Lineart
2003 LSU- Matt Mauck
2002 tOSU- Craig Krenzel
2001 Miami- Ken Dorsey
2000 Oklahoma- Josh Huepel
1999 Florida State- Chris Weinke
1998 Tennessee- Tee Martin
by learned hand on Jul 1, 2008 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Déjà vu?
It's a Horns' world. Even Aggies play hoops with a burnt orange ball.
Is it football season YET?
by Speedway on Jul 1, 2008 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Straight up, unapologetic plagarism (from myself)
I’m mildly annoyed with the perception that Colt McCoy is so bad he’ll keep a team from the promised land.
That’s like saying Craig Krenzel, Josh Heupel, Chris Leak, and Matt Mauck reached another, rarefied level of QB play.
by learned hand on Jul 1, 2008 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know you did.
How about Todd Boeckman last season @ tOSU? All he had to do was stay out of the way of Beanie Wells.
It's a Horns' world. Even Aggies play hoops with a burnt orange ball.
Is it football season YET?
by Speedway on Jul 1, 2008 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Harder than it sounds
The kid’s a wide load.
by learned hand on Jul 1, 2008 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
You think he's Jorvorskie Lane's long lost twin?
It's a Horns' world. Even Aggies play hoops with a burnt orange ball.
Is it football season YET?
by Speedway on Jul 1, 2008 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
defense
The teams with the mediocre QB’s had great defenses.
by Longhorns84 on Jul 3, 2008 3:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
All of the teams
had great defenses. VY had a top 10 defense, and Leinart had one of the best defenses on the list
Hence my issues with laying too much responsibility at the quarterback’s feet.
by learned hand on Jul 3, 2008 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
All those QB's had one thing in common
They didn’t F it up for their teams…
18 interceptions and like 7 fumbles might hurt even the best teams…
by texasfan05 on Jul 1, 2008 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree he can't have another season like that
But we’ve also seen what he’s capable of when surrounded by MNC level talent (‘06). In that event, he’ll prove solid enough to join this list.
by learned hand on Jul 1, 2008 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
then we agree. As long as he doesn't F up. I'm game.
by texasfan05 on Jul 1, 2008 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So if Colt has a bad season as a starter, then you're not game?
It's a Horns' world. Even Aggies play hoops with a burnt orange ball.
Is it football season YET?
by Speedway on Jul 1, 2008 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right, if he has a bad year again, then I don't want
him bringing our team down to mediocrity next season either.
by texasfan05 on Jul 1, 2008 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is a ridiculous conversation.
Bowel Movement Guy (BMG) started a thread asking us to predict the overarching theme of the 2008 season. While the history of this upcoming season is yet to be witnessed or even recorded it’s fun to speculate. How does a conversation starter like this degenerate into another McCoy can/can’t perform thread?
It's a Horns' world. Even Aggies play hoops with a burnt orange ball.
Is it football season YET?
by Speedway on Jul 1, 2008 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it's just on the back of everyone's mind....
by texasfan05 on Jul 1, 2008 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
These threads get out of hand fast..nt whills
by learned hand on Jul 1, 2008 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Amen
It’s hard to have a discussion with someone who already knows everything -and predicts App St wins over Michigan. Next he’s going to tell us who wins the November election.
It's a Horns' world. Even Aggies play hoops with a burnt orange ball.
Is it football season YET?
by Speedway on Jul 1, 2008 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And i really did predict AppSt over Mich
as a joke. and it came true.
I was just trying to say that blind optimism shouldnt be looked down on….
It’s football, have fun
by texasfan05 on Jul 1, 2008 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's avoid politics
it would really devolve into a mess…besides, PB doesn’t abide such idolatry.
by learned hand on Jul 1, 2008 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I cant stand unwarrented McCoy potshots, so I come and... discuss my pov.
by BoddickerIsClutch on Jul 1, 2008 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not unwarrented, but whatever
some people just like to second guess the coaching. As last year proved by Mack putting seniority over skill, Coaches aren’t always right.
by texasfan05 on Jul 1, 2008 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your first comment about McCoy
At the beginning of this snakey thread, about him not being able to “get it done” next year is what I would call, an unprovoked unwarranted potshot at the QB, and is what generated this long list of return comments.
by BoddickerIsClutch on Jul 1, 2008 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But I thought QBs play alone in a box right?
Why would anyone else on the field impact the play of a QB?
Imagine if this was your job description:
Your performance will be evaluated based on the performance of your 10 nearest co-workers. In addition, the next 11 closest co-works will also have a significant impact on your performance. As well, the 11 or so “Special Team” co-workers will have a lesser, but still significant impact on your performance.
In addition, should any of these people have any sort of injury, disciplinary, or scholastic problem, that will be reflected badly on your performance review.
On top of that, your managers will have a direct impact on your potential performance. As well, competing managers will constantly be looking for ways to undermine your abilities, thus lower your performance.
Lastly, irregardless of your performance, you will still be judged by hundreds of thousands of people by your absolute worst moments, unless you achieve that which has only happened three times in the history of your school, and that happens to less than 1% of all schools in a given year.
Good luck, and sign here to join the team.
X____
by BoddickerIsClutch on Jul 1, 2008 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions 8 recs
Clever
It's a Horns' world. Even Aggies play hoops with a burnt orange ball.
Is it football season YET?
by Speedway on Jul 1, 2008 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think BiC
has a future in Sports Law…or at least making fun of it
by learned hand on Jul 1, 2008 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The cleverness of some daytime BON contributers amazes me.
It's a Horns' world. Even Aggies play hoops with a burnt orange ball.
Is it football season YET?
by Speedway on Jul 1, 2008 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
The atrocious spelling by some daytime BON contributors frightens me.
It's a Horns' world. Even Aggies play hoops with a burnt orange ball.
Is it football season YET?
by Speedway on Jul 1, 2008 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
The logically flawed hardline positions of some daytime BON contributors baffles me.
It's a Horns' world. Even Aggies play hoops with a burnt orange ball.
Is it football season YET?
by Speedway on Jul 1, 2008 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
This is a Wells situation
I will be forced to rec all of the above
by learned hand on Jul 1, 2008 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
My logic Baffles many people
I picked AP St to beat Michigan last year…. How stupid…
by texasfan05 on Jul 1, 2008 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is not Stupid
what is stupid is arguing that Texas will win the national championship and that McCoy is not good enough to win the national championship in the same thread.
by Wells on Jul 1, 2008 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions 6 recs
Wells
Are you ever concerned that you might be too subtle to get your point across?
by learned hand on Jul 1, 2008 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
haha
Seldom minds reach as far as to question their own questions.
Let those minds be thoughtful as we grow in society.
by texasfan05 on Jul 1, 2008 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Spelling...
Why are you so worried about spelling. Who cares. This isn’t grammer school. You get the point, thats all that matters.
by Longhorns84 on Jul 2, 2008 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
u're rite longgharnss84'
as loong as poeple no waht your sayin, hoo kares how u speel it? wee shoudl all rite liek this.
by billyzane on Jul 2, 2008 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
'84, I am not worried about spelling.
Your spelling and grammar mistakes hurt my eyes. They hurt the collective BON eyes. Your writing style is the fresh cut onions that sting in the eyes of BON, and makes the Eyes of Texas cry buckets.
It’s not that I am worried about the mistakes. It’s just that your mistakes are so gross that it makes it hard to focus on the content of your posts.
If your mind is so cluttered that it doesn’t have time for basic grammar and spelling, then how could it possibly have time for objective, well-constructed football discussions.
Please re-read your writing before posting. My eyes thank you.
It's a Horns' world. Even Aggies play hoops with a burnt orange ball.
Is it football season YET?
by Speedway on Jul 2, 2008 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Nerd
You remind me of that nerd in high scholl everyone picked on..This is a sports blog..Why do you talk about grammer/spelling?
by Longhorns84 on Jul 2, 2008 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oops...
I spelled school wrong…I better fix it before Speedway gets upset.
by Longhorns84 on Jul 2, 2008 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Enough
Talk about sports. Be nice to each other. Smoke a bowl if you need to.
Yay.
--PB--
by Peter Bean on Jul 2, 2008 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Hey if he can't handle it then don't
play for Texas.
You can make excuses for Colt all day, but do you really think that our O-line last year is what made him throw 18 interceptions?? Not to mention the many fumbles he had after he crossed the line of scrimmage.
by texasfan05 on Jul 1, 2008 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
I think it was completely Colt and Colt alone.
Between his Freshman and Sophomore seasons, nothing around him changed, thus the only possible variable, however unlikely, would be his loss of arm strength, psyche, and the ability to play football as a whole.
I honestly dont even know why he still has a scholarship this year.
by BoddickerIsClutch on Jul 1, 2008 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok Bod
I still don’t think that’s an acceptable excuse for 18
by texasfan05 on Jul 1, 2008 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
His body of work
Has shown he can do it.
Ive argued before on this site that it at most earns him the starting job, and some benefit of the doubt.
No one would call 2007 a stellar year for Colt, but if last year is his worst season at UT, he will have a fine career, and set just about every passing record we have. If its the start of a downward spiral, he will soon be forgotten.
But for now, for me anyway, his freshman year combined with his sophomore year, has earned him the shot to keep at it.
by BoddickerIsClutch on Jul 1, 2008 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
freshman year
He didn’t finish the 06’ year good. He stunk it up against a&m. He played most of the year well. Is he dependable?
by Longhorns84 on Jul 2, 2008 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude, The guy was not 100%
He should not have played in that game and I think most will agree. Remember, before the KSU game they were talking him up for the Heisman (remember the field of canidates), though a long shot. That 4th and goal changed the season.
by Bevoboy94 on Jul 3, 2008 12:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so...
Why did he play? I thought we could beat a&m with a hurt QB.
by Longhorns84 on Jul 3, 2008 3:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why did he play?
Damn good question. The game plan and him playing rest on the coaching staff (and Colt’s dad). Should have been able to beat a&m with a hurt or backup but that is never a given against a rival (or a team that has more to gain). Nobody here ever said we could beat a&m with a hurt QB. Most wondered/questioned why he was going to play on T +1 and even against Iowa a month later.
Poor coaching decisions on the a&m game.
by Bevoboy94 on Jul 5, 2008 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
right now and next year
colt will be the best and most experienced qb on the team. so what do you say we do? put in chiles so he can throw 180 interceptions instead of 18? so we can run every play? you list all the problems of colt but you dont give a reasonable solution. the only solution you have been able to spit out is football suicide.
by Hook'em13 on Jul 1, 2008 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't say put chiles in
I’m just saying that if Colt just doesn’t mess up then we’ll be a great team. And by not messing up, I think 10 int, and 5 fumbles is acceptable.
But 18… that will kill our team.
by texasfan05 on Jul 1, 2008 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
all im trying to say is
colt is a good qb and he can win a national title if he has the right players around him. you don’t have to have vy on your team to win one. just need to give the kid a chance
by Hook'em13 on Jul 1, 2008 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think a contract would have iiregardless in it
Especially since it is isn’t a word.
by Beergut on Jul 5, 2008 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not that again!
It's a Horns' world. Even Aggies play hoops with a burnt orange ball.
Is it football season YET?
by Speedway on Jul 7, 2008 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So, he's got you supporting aglets?
Aglets who are colloquially blind, no less. (You know aglets have 34 words for sheep, not counting endearing sweet nothings.)
His first sentence is actually correct, but only because he misspelled it (iiregardless). And “Irregardless, dammit” sorta can be construed as a double colloquial close out with some ironic intent (which is probably unintended anyway). But to complete his actual thought, beergut has to admit that Bod has stated a formal contract, so beergut gets swept down the satirical whirlpool formed by the considerable currents in conflict.
Meekrob actually came to the rescue; that is, he threw beergut an anchor, which is perfectly honorable.
And Bod, the valiant crusader against “regardless,” hasn’t even stepped into the fray, but I’m certain he feels a certain vindication that his cause is just.
I’m sure, as the herald in this event, you have merely lost your colloquial bearings in the backwash of the satirical whirlpool and offer no real tactical support for beergut.
Or else you’re trying to pull the wool over our eyes, which does have some serious intent in this peculiar circumstance. What does “Not that again” really mean?
by whills on Jul 7, 2008 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
Beergut's comments are too funny. Your's too whills.
This is just priceless (but only if you caught the misspelling):
I don’t think a contract would have iiregardless in it especially since it is isn’t a word.
But then to follow up with the “double colloquial close out” just made my day.
I thought Aglets were the unware de facto experts on colloquial language. Heck, BeerGut isn’t a word!
And while I applaud the Irregardless Revolution lead by my daytime BON friend BiC. I just don’t care to hear his medical history again.
Unfortunately, I agree wholeheartedly with BZ on this one.
It's a Horns' world. Even Aggies play hoops with a burnt orange ball.
Is it football season YET?
by Speedway on Jul 7, 2008 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just ushering in the future of the English language, dont hate.
Irregardless, it is a word, and moves toward standardization every time its used. Just by quoting me you are promulgating its existence, irregardless of your intent to defy it!
by BoddickerIsClutch on Jul 7, 2008 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beware the aware.
I thought Aglets were the unware de facto experts on colloquial language.
I’m sure you’re correct on this.
Damn, it’s still July.
by whills on Jul 7, 2008 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am with you - is it football season YET?
I thought that BiC & Meekrob would be all over the unware. But I guess their hip with that.
It's a Horns' world. Even Aggies play hoops with a burnt orange ball.
Is it football season YET?
by Speedway on Jul 8, 2008 6:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
People make typos
By the way, it should be “they’re” in that sentence, not “their”.
by Meekrob on Jul 8, 2008 8:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're right on their. But unware is not a typo. nt whills
It's a Horns' world. Even Aggies play hoops with a burnt orange ball.
Is it football season YET?
by Speedway on Jul 8, 2008 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If its good enough for Chaucer, its good enough for me.
Unware predates irregardless in the English language by a long shot, and is already accepted as a word, if not widely used.
by BoddickerIsClutch on Jul 8, 2008 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We should create an alliance.
I’ll back irregardless for you. If in your campaign speeches you toss in some unwares.
It's a Horns' world. Even Aggies play hoops with a burnt orange ball.
Is it football season YET?
by Speedway on Jul 8, 2008 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
E316K ensured that I have little use for Chaucer,
regardless of his status as a lexical pioneer.
by learned hand on Jul 8, 2008 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
E316k - Ancient World Lit
was one of the best classes I took at UT
It's a Horns' world. Even Aggies play hoops with a burnt orange ball.
Is it football season YET?
by Speedway on Jul 8, 2008 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
316k - Masterworks of Brit lit
was among my least favorite classes.
by learned hand on Jul 8, 2008 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I liked it...
..maybe because I took it in the summer and got an A. Keep in mind, that I hate English courses.
by vy til i die on Jul 8, 2008 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm an astronomy major
that’s going to take 316k this semester. I’m scared
by texasfan05 on Jul 8, 2008 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't be. Worst case it's boring,
mind numbingly, wishing you were reading a beergut post, boring.
That said, I heard good things about the one Speedway speaks of before I graduated. But that was ‘04 so everything may have changed, or nothing, considering how universities work.
by learned hand on Jul 8, 2008 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I took Kaulbach in fall 2003
It was a great course. Not sure if he’s there; I left in 2004.
It's a Horns' world. Even Aggies play hoops with a burnt orange ball.
Is it football season YET?
by Speedway on Jul 8, 2008 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i took Bruster..
..for Brit., but some of the class hated him. I liked him, even though I suck at writing. My advice, if you can, take it in the summer..lol
by vy til i die on Jul 8, 2008 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Colt
Colt’s 2 horrible games every year worry me. I hope he improves that, and cuts the INT’s in half.
by Longhorns84 on Jul 2, 2008 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No worries
.......as long as Mack gets that 10th win.
Mack’s cameo line in Friday Night LIghts should have been, “We’re all about 10 wins per season.”
--- All roads to the Big-XII Championship lead through OU/RRS. It's not just another game! We're all about championships here. ---
by HornChamps on Jul 2, 2008 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OSU and USC
Seems to me they’re both set up the best to go undefeated. Obviously they won’t both do it, but whichever one wins the matchup should be in the title game. I don’t really see any strong contenders in the PAC10, and only Wisconsin and Illinois have a shot at OSU. If OSU goes undefeated though, I think the college football world will collectively refuse to watch the title game in protest.
by jw4425 on Jul 1, 2008 3:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
well
i think usc will probably beat ohio state BUT the last couple of years they have found a way to screw up a game they should have won….stanford
by Hook'em13 on Jul 1, 2008 3:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I like OSU
USC played ugly on offense last year, squeaking by Washington, losing to Stanford, Oregon, sluggish against Idaho…and so on. Sanchez looks pretty average from what I’ve seen. His good game was against Notre Dame…that doesn’t say much. The receivers at SC have been busts thus far, and the trojans are rebuilding their offensive line. Joe Mcknight might not even be eligible. The offense is gonna be pretty plain.
Contrast that with Ohio States offense:
Boeckman is a proven quarterback who can make enough plays to win a game. Chris Wells is a complete all-everything runningback, and they have some good-not-great receivers too. If tyrelle pryor actually sees playing time, thats a whole different ballgame.
The difference is Ohio St has their offense put together, they know what they’re gonna do with the ball. SC however is just a bunch of scattered 5star puzzle pieces hopelessly jumbled at this point.
The defenses are a wash, maybe a little edge goes to USC. In LA, that plays a role too, but when the game comes around, OSU will definitely be the favorite.
by owenh on Jul 1, 2008 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and USC
runs a usual Pro-Style offense. Ohio State has not had trouble with those in the past.
by owenh on Jul 1, 2008 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
but, fullback dives by LSU screw them up something awful
and USC runs a usual Pro-Style offense. Ohio State has not had trouble with those in the past.that may be the worst footbal logic I have ever head
by Beergut on Jul 5, 2008 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice line.
SC however is just a bunch of scattered 5star puzzle pieces hopelessly jumbled at this point.
by whills on Jul 1, 2008 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
USC
has young talent on the field every year, and they seem to find ways to win.
by Longhorns84 on Jul 3, 2008 3:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
USC
lost A LOT of players in the draft
by Longhorns84 on Jul 2, 2008 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is somewhat true
USC has dropped a few games these past couple of years to teams they should had beaten, BUT, all the teams were out of the Pac-10. They WILL beat Ohio State, let’s see if they can keep their focus throughout conference play.
by Houstonhorn on Jul 1, 2008 3:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
USC also...
Destroyed Illinois, the only team OSU lost to in the regular season.
by jw4425 on Jul 1, 2008 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
one thing is for sure..
I am sick and tired of watching a mediocore NC game w/ Ohio State, once again, getting blown out. Surely, third time is the charm.
by longhornricky on Jul 1, 2008 5:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Whether USC should have won those games or not
Right now, the Pac-10 is a stronger conference overall than the Big 10. Based on that alone, I hope they take care of OSU at home.
by a0nyme on Jul 1, 2008 5:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
EVERY YEAR
The team most likely to go unbeaten (prior to January) is Ohio State. They rarely play a strong non-conference team on the road. The Big 10 is not a strong conference top-to-bottom; the mid-rung and below teams are not a threat to beat the Buckeyes. Ever. The Michigan threat is much reduced until Rodriguez proves he can get a handle on a far tougher situation than he faced at WVa. Ohio State does not face the early-December conference playoff game. The Buckeyes recruit better than any school not coached by Pete Carroll. Jim Tressel is the perfect college coach. I’d pick Ohio State in every game they play every year—until the BCS title game comes along.
by edsp on Jul 1, 2008 10:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
ou
They will play ou this year…and WIN!
by Longhorns84 on Jul 2, 2008 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
reply
The Michigan threat is much reduced until Rodriguez proves he can get a handle on a far tougher situation than he faced at WVa.
If you want to say Michigan isn’t a threat until RichRod shows he has the talent in place to run his system, that would be valid. But for you to insinuate that Rodriguez needs to learn how to coach in a “big time” conference like the Big Televen is ludicrous. West Virginia would have beaten Ohio State, Michigan, and Illinois last season.
Rodriguez is going to a lesser team than the one he left.
by Beergut on Jul 5, 2008 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No politics
or religion (e.g., Beergut satanism). Stick to sports.
Brown Control to Major Applewhite...
by bfaut86 on Jul 1, 2008 11:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Boy, that escalated quickly
I mean, that really got out of hand fast.
by bamfor on Jul 2, 2008 12:03 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
hahaha
yeah i stabbed a guy in the heart with a triton
by texasfan05 on Jul 2, 2008 1:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes...
...let’s go around fixing other people’s typos…i’m pretty sure you have your hands full w/ your own
by vy til i die on Jul 5, 2008 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ou and Ohio State
do have the best shot to go undefeated. If ou can beat Texas, and Ohio State can beat USC then it will happen. It will be ou v.s USC/Ohio State (winner) in the championship game this year. I don’t think either of the three are the best team, just the easiest path to get there.
by Longhorns84 on Jul 2, 2008 7:51 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I am thinking (hoping)
that Bradford will have his slump this year and ou will be no where near the championship. looks around to make sure she spelled everything correctly ;)
Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard. OU SUCKS!!
by LadyLonghorninOK on Jul 5, 2008 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oops....
nowhere… not no where.. lol
Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard. OU SUCKS!!
by LadyLonghorninOK on Jul 5, 2008 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
PARITY
I think there is parity, because the lack of talent or youth at key positions on your powerhouse teams. Proof lies on the list of top QB’s for the upcoming season. The only reason I think parity will continue is because when the traditional powerhouses recruit these superstars, they bolt to the NFL as soon as they can. Texas and USC are good examples of this.
by Longhorns84 on Jul 2, 2008 7:57 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Texas is perhaps not the best example - so far
We haven’t had nearly the amount of early exits as other upper echelon teams. We very well may going forward, though. More and more players for traditional powerhouses are too enthusiastic about their own abilities, and they don’t understand the difference between high-level college football and professional football until they actually get there. They assume 2 or 3 years at USC or Texas or the like automatically gives them the necessary mental and physical tools to compete immediately with NFL veterans and then act like the world has gone mad when they fall to the 3rd round.
You’d like to think that after enough top early exits fall apart in the NFL, these guys will wake up and realize they need as much college preparation as they can get. But as long as the NFL keeps throwing the kind of money they throw at rookies and as long as the BCS keeps rewarding teams for playing lousy competition, all of these players will continue to believe they don’t need 4 years of college.
by bassale47 on Jul 2, 2008 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Parity not only due to QBs
Perusing Rivals’ position power rankings there aren’t a lot of names that really stand out.
QB: Tebow, Daniel, Harrell, Stafford
RB: Beanie Wells, N. Moreno, Ian Johnson
WR: Crabtree, Harvin, Maclin
DL: Selvie and Hardy
LB: Laurinitas and Maualuga, Cushing and Spikes
DB: Malcolm Jenkis, Vonta Davis, Victor Harris
When you really start to wonder about which of these guys will translate into NFL talent the list gets even less formidable. Obviously, there is talent in college football—the point is that 2006 and 2007 saw a lot of big time talent make its way into the draft and while this is great for NFL fans it does leave a void in college football. I think it will take the 2008 season for some of these guys, and some of the top teams to really shake themselves free of the parity and establish themselves as the elite.
John Chiles - I'm your foster daddy!
by BMG on Jul 2, 2008 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Talent
06’ 07’ had a lot of talent on the OL and DL. An OL went #1…amazing
by Longhorns84 on Jul 2, 2008 11:14 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
8 comments since I've last visited, and all by you '84. You've been busy.
It should be written ‘06, ‘07, or ‘84. The apostrophe indicates where the missing alphanumeric characters would otherwise reside.
It's a Horns' world. Even Aggies play hoops with a burnt orange ball.
Is it football season YET?
by Speedway on Jul 2, 2008 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Football
was a man’s game in the 7th and 8th century.
by learned hand on Jul 2, 2008 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
My bad, learned hand
Thanks to your expertise, I stand corrected. ‘84 must have been referring to the 7th & 8th centuries. Who knew that, despite being dead, you were such a sports history buff?!!
It's a Horns' world. Even Aggies play hoops with a burnt orange ball.
Is it football season YET?
by Speedway on Jul 2, 2008 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
An Unabridged History of College Football is part of the heaven welcome packet
along with the Eyes of Texas.
by learned hand on Jul 2, 2008 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
That is to say, you got your horns.
That’s incongruous with current afterlife assumptions, but then we don’t know what we don’t know. (However, that’s no excuse for willful ignorance or Okies.)
by whills on Jul 2, 2008 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can PB use this comment to promote the book? .nt whills
by Horn Brain on Jul 2, 2008 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fine by me.
But I’m wholly unable to indemnify him against any legal action by descendants. Litigious whippersnappers.
by learned hand on Jul 2, 2008 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BUSY
watching you talk about grammer in a sports blog
by Longhorns84 on Jul 2, 2008 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
CFB storyline...
Colt McCoy throws 10 TD passes to John Chiles alone. Most TD’s a QB throws to another QB (at least I think so). Chiles throws three to Colt for good measure.
Mark it down.
by TheElusiveShadow on Jul 2, 2008 2:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
disagree that we're looking at parity
every 15 years or so, you have a season where no one great teams steps up and dominates, so you have a lot of movement at the top of the polls.
2007 was similar to 1990, when you have 7 different teams, I think it was, move into and fall out of the #1 spot in the polls.
The media screams parity every time a major program has a bad coach or overhyped players who losed to a well-coached lesser program with underrated players (Michigan-App State ‘07). That isn’t parity, that’s bad coaching and the media overhyping the wrong team.
I think college football, overall, has been on a decline since the end of the 2004 season, and I’ve been waiting for it to improve ever since. Given that we had the “15 year anomaly” last season, I think we’ll see a turnaround in ‘08. I’m hopeful, anyway.
by Beergut on Jul 5, 2008 5:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
2004?
2005 is the apex of college football that all other season before and after will be compared to.
by Wells on Jul 6, 2008 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wells, he doesn't live in your world.
Therefore his abstractions are a couple of embarrassments removed from normal.
by whills on Jul 6, 2008 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

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