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Myth Busting: Texas and the Big 12

Last week I asked for your takes on some of the conventional wisdom coalescing around the Big 12 in general, and Texas in particular. There were lots of interesting comments, and as promised, here are a few of my favorites, with commentary.

MYTH: COLT NO THROW PICKS = TEXAS WIN!

Both crocodile235, billb, and BMG are tired of hearing Texas' offensive issues oversimplified into a matter of Colt turning the ball over less frequently:

Colt doesn’t throw the football in a vacuum. Will the O line give him more time to throw? Will we find a threat at RB? On the other side of the ball, will the youngsters impress? That seems to be the biggest problem with the statement about Texas—that last year’s season was a product of Colt’s interceptions alone.
--crocodile235--

On Colt, yes he threw a lot of interceptions, but Texas would have still contended if not for the defense. Defense should improve this year. I also don’t see a lot of people note how close Texas and OU were last year. Jamal does not fumble and I frimly believe Texas wins that game, all other things being equal they end up 6-2 and OU ends up 5-3. Texas plays Missouri for big 12.
--billb--

Colt’s INT total isn’t the only thing that is important. Try having someone other than a DB lead the team in tackles. Try being in the top half of pass defenses in the country. Try having an offense that doesn’t depend on passing on 3rd and short, instead of moving the chains with a punishing RB. Try having a RB without fumbling issues. If Colt throws his 18 picks and we do these things last year we would have beaten OU and played for the Big 12 title.
--BMG--

PB's Take: These guys are right - improvement from Colt is one of many important factors that will determine the 'Horns successes this fall. Beyond that, though, there's an unspoken point within their comments: when you're devoting as little as a sentence and at most a paragraph or two to "previewing" a team, that's as deep as the analysis will get. Which... what's the point? Plug-n-publish sports coverage has been - and continues to be - the downfall of the mainstream sports media. There's a reason we increasingly gather at fan sites like this one.

Star-divide

MYTH: KANSAS IS LEGIT

DMCHorn isn't sold on Kansas as a contender:

Although it seems that some of the KU love has attenuated since last year, I still think that they’re getting too much credit for their performance last year. I know that Reesing is a great quarterback and I appreciate the Jayhawks’ success last year (my wife is a Jayhawk), but I can’t see Lawrence as more than a basketball town (and football success is probably tough when everyone’s focused on the basketball program – which likely hasn’t changed with the recent championship) and I really do think that last year was an aberration. Maybe KU will be able to maintain some momentum from last season, but I suspect that this season will be as successful as some of Mangino’s diets (okay… maybe not that bad). If KU does well this year, then I’ll concede that there’s a pattern of success and may sidle up to the KU Kool-aid. Until then, I anticipate a typically mediocre season for the Jayhawks.
--DMCHorn--

PB's Take: Dismiss Kansas at your own peril, sir. With that said, the difference between Kansas last year and this year is the schedule; the '08 Jayhawks play at South Florida, at Oklahoma, vs Tech, and vs Texas. Another 11-1 regular season is highly improbable, but the Jayhawks' performance last year was legit. They obliterated weak teams, beat solid ones, and capped the season with a win in the Orange Bowl over a solid Virginia Tech squad. They'll score points again this year; any team caught napping against KU will find itself in trouble.

MYTH: THE YOUNG DB'S WILL BE FINE

HornChamps is worried for the youngsters in our secondary:

Why is everyone so accepting of this young, inexperienced defensive backfield? We’re going to start 2 freshman safeties and 3 inexperienced DBs. Even Thorpe winner M.Huff was toasted his freshman season. I’m not sure if he’s caught Wes Welker yet…

These young guys have a ton of initial talent and abilities, but the same can be said of the Gators’ young D-backfield last season. They took 4 losses in a run-oriented SEC. We’re playing in the pass-happy Big-XII with a number of the country’s finest QBs.
--HornChamps--

PB's Take: I more or less agree with HornChamps on this one. I tend to think of DB development as equal parts coaching, talent, and experience. Two out of three ain't bad, but the growing pains from lack of experience are inevitable. Deep touchdowns over out-of-position freshman safeties will burn Texas on at least a few occasions this season. Especially, as HornChamps notes, in this conference.

With that said, as billyzane explains in his chapter in The Eyes of Texas 2008, Muschamp's biggest impact on his new defenses is in the passing game. Whatever growing pains we experience along the way, I'm of the mind that by December, this is going to be a defense no one wants to play.

MYTH: MISSOURI WILL WIN THE BIG 12 NORTH

Quite a few commenters spoke up noting their support for Colorado as the Big 12 North team to beat.

Darkhorse, out of nowhere team- Colorado. They are always tough at home, where they play Texas this year, they don’t play Oklahoma, Cody Hawkins is experienced, and Darrell Scott will be the real deal by October. The whole team is much farther up the learning curve than last year.
--burnt in ny--

PB's Take: I'll agree that Colorado will be improved, but I think they have too far to go to challenge Missouri. The Buffs allowed 440 yards per game at 6.3 yards per play on defense in Big 12 play last season. On offense, I do think Colorado will be dangerous, but not dominant enough to overcome their defensive shortcomings.

 

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PB

In your take on KU, I believe you mean to say that they play “vs Texas”, not @

So you're saying that now I have to think of some witty Sig that will be applicable across all the SBN sites? Go TexanHornStros!

by Shake on Jul 31, 2008 1:41 PM CDT   0 recs

Good catch

Thanks

--PB--

by PB @ BON on Aug 2, 2008 4:52 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

nailing it

Boy, PB, did you get it right when you wrote: “Beyond that, though, there’s an unspoken point . . . when you’re devoting as little as a sentence and at most a paragraph or two to previewing a team, that’s as deep as the analysis will get. . . . Plug-n-publish sports coverage has been – and continues to be – the downfall of the mainstream sports media.”
Let me share an experience, name excluded to protect, well, so that this doesn’t get personal. A noted newspaper columnist wrote to me that McCoy “threw a bunch of balls up for grabs, a ton of balls.” My response, with which he did not agree with, was that Colt had no option but to force some passes. He had (1) no dependable running game on way too many occasions, (2) he had no deep threat (with Limas Sweed sidelined and Billy Pittman reduced to spot play), (3) he had a rebuilt and constantly in a state of flux OL, (4) and he had no proven QB behind him, meaning McCoy (no doubt with the coaches’ backing) either had to force some balls or take a chance on ending up in the training room for a month.
Way too much of what passes as “information” or “news” is simple overview—mindless words that touch on but do not explain problems and do not require much in-depth interviewing or research.

by edsp on Jul 31, 2008 1:51 PM CDT   0 recs

The 4 letter network

Last season (or maybe season before last) I wrote an email to Maisel in response to an article he wrote about coaches with a history of blowing big leads. I was pointing out to him that on the other side of the coin Mack Brown was a coach that had been involved in many huge come from behind wins. I provided stats and a bunch of games as points of reference. Not only did he not write me back, but he actually used my email, parts of it verbatem, for another article and took full credit. I actually like most of his stuff but that never sat well with me.

by Horncasting on Jul 31, 2008 2:29 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

You should sue

Assuming, of course, you still have the sent e-mail as evidence.

Now, if only we had a lawyer hanging out around here….

So you're saying that now I have to think of some witty Sig that will be applicable across all the SBN sites? Go TexanHornStros!

by Shake on Jul 31, 2008 5:22 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

No lawyer

but I play one in school.

There is no law suit here.

Go register. Or else.

by Skin Patrol on Jul 31, 2008 8:06 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

DB's

Palmer and Beasley are experienced DB’s, and our safeties are really our only concern.

by Longhorns84 on Jul 31, 2008 2:22 PM CDT   0 recs

Well, not

....really. Palmer = 13 starts = 90 career defensive tackles

Beasley = 2 starts = 44 career defensive tackles

--- All roads to the Big-XII Championship lead through OU/RRS. It's not just another game! We're all about championships here. ---

by HornChamps on Jul 31, 2008 4:18 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

What does that mean?

CB’s really aren’t suppose to be the one’s making tackles. Palmer impressed me last year in coverage.

by Longhorns84 on Jul 31, 2008 9:02 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Tell me

......you at least understand the importance of starts. Thirteen on one side and two on the other is far from reasssuring.

As for CBs not making tackles, I have to wonder how much you watch the Longhorns. Here is a list of cumulative tackles by the CBs over the past 4 seasons.

Season…...........Tackles by CBs

2007…....................213
2006…....................164
2005…....................232
2004…....................198

Still want to claim the Longhorn CBs don’t make many tackles? No, I didn’t think so.

Given the fact that our anticipated starting CBs have played 5 seasons for the Longhorns, a combined 134 career defensive tackles (an average of 27/season played), it is pretty silly to argue they are “experienced”. With two freshman safeties behind them, we have to be concerned about their play this season.

--- All roads to the Big-XII Championship lead through OU/RRS. It's not just another game! We're all about championships here. ---

by HornChamps on Jul 31, 2008 11:59 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

you aren't understanding what I'm sayin

It seems like your judging how good the CB’s are by how many tackles they have. Palmer might not have a lot of tackles, but that doesn’t mean he isn’t playing well. Palmer played good in coverage last year. Texas CB’s have been making a lot of tackles, but they shouldn’t be. The LB’s should be better this year, and have more tackles than the DB’s(like there suppose to).

by Longhorns84 on Aug 1, 2008 9:37 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Agreed

13 starts is an entire season, which is lots of experience, and while 2 starts isn’t a whole lot, Beasley was on the field plenty. I think we’ll be fine at CB, safety is the concern.

by jw4425 on Aug 1, 2008 9:54 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I think Kansas is overrated

But that doesn’t mean they aren’t dangerous. “Overrated” doesn’t mean “suck.” It just means people think you’re better than you are, but you still might be pretty good.

by TheElusiveShadow on Jul 31, 2008 3:52 PM CDT   0 recs

Yes

Thanks for saying it so nicely PB. I don’t even check generic sports media sites (you know the ones) for baseball standings anymore because I am fearful of being face-smacked by some recycled, tripe news story which consists of 90% quotes woven together to form a basis for speculation.

by DaGoose on Jul 31, 2008 4:11 PM CDT   0 recs

But

if you don’t check the “mainstream” sports sites, how do you keep up with the most important, most riveting news story (not just sports news, but all news) of our era? I refer, of course, to the Brett Favre saga.

I would say wake me when the whole thing is over, but I suspect that each offseason for the next 5 years or so, the main story of the NFL offseason will be the retirement/unretirement of Brett Favre. Thank God for BON and its sister sites. Not only do they provide real analysis during the season, but the offseason articles help us survive until college football returns.

by Longhorn in Canada on Aug 1, 2008 6:40 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Kansas

Kansas last year was to me a lot like Rutgers in 2006, only with a QB (Reesing) leading the way instead of a RB (Rice). Of course, Rutgers lost two games to Kansas’ one, and the Scarlet Knights didn’t quite obliterate the non-conference cupcakes to the degree that the Jayhawks did.

One thing they had exactly in common was winning close games. Rutgers in 2006 and Kansas in 2007 both went 3-0 in games decided by a TD or less, and if you count 8-point margins (for 2 point conversions’ sake), KU was 4-1 in those games. Things generally even out from one year to the next, though.

From Steele: over the past six seasons, 49 teams had three net close wins. Of them, 31 were worse the next year, 7 were the same, and 11 were better.

The odds are not on the Jayhawks’ side for matching last season. Given how weak Kansas’ schedule was, especially in comparison to this year’s, getting better or staying the same in 2008 record-wise was already dubious before 2007 even began.

I don’t think Kansas will fall back to 8-5 as Rutgers did, but it will fall off some. KU won’t get as many breaks, and it’s awfully tough to catch lightning in a bottle twice.

by Year2 on Jul 31, 2008 6:16 PM CDT   0 recs

Colt

I still cannot understand the blind-support that so many people give Colt. You guys just want to ignore the fact that he hasn’t played worth half-of-a-shit since the K-State game in 06. “Oh, it’s a bad o-line. ” “It’s a bad group of receivers.” “It’s a bad running game.” When are the excuses goin to stop? “Oh, his 4 picks weren’t why we lost. It wasn’t his fault.” When is everyone going to get sick of loosing? There is a reason that no other D-1 school wanted him out of high school: HE ISN”T VERY GOOD. Certainly not good enough to lead this team to a Big XII, BCS bowl victory, or MNC.

I can’t wait to see what the next round of excuses is going to be this season, but undoubtedly the gist will be: “It’s everybody’s fault but Colt’s.”

I hope I’m wrong, but we will get any idea pretty quick of exactly how bloody of a season this is going to be for us.

by Texas Our Texas on Jul 31, 2008 8:10 PM CDT   0 recs

last chance?

The only problem is there isn’t a better throwing QB behind him (until Gilbert gets here next year). I really think if he struggles like last year (I don’t think he will), he won’t finish some games. He should be hitting his prime this year, so we will see!

by Longhorns84 on Jul 31, 2008 9:06 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I can understand your view

Colt should be held accountable to a certain degree. The worst pass Colt threw last year may have been Oklahoma St, first pass-> pick 6. I was like “holy shit here we go again”.

However on the other side, at least 4 of his interceptions were off tipped balls. Thats more “half” an INT if you ask me, partly a bad throw, partly bad hands on the receiver’s part.

And lets be serious, the O-line was a revolving door, I believe everyone can accept that. If not, I don’t know what to tell you. It’s a valid factor to consider when judging a QB.

The recievers were okay and thats it. Yards after catch is big, and frankly our recievers last year were neither fast or elusive, it was catch, tackled, catch, tackled.

Now I cannot stand a fumbler, and Colt either needs to wrap it up better, or stop scrambling.

As for recruiting I have mixed feelings regarding it. Were Reesing, Daniel, and Bradford heralded coming out of HS? No. All were 3 stars. Colt too.

The problems I have with Colt are the following:

Durability-Its easy to get his feathers ruffled
Paranoia-He feels pressure thats not there
He’s quiet-this is more personal, he can’t change it but hes not loud/vocal/inspiring

He’s not perfect, but football is a team sport. QB’s are important but shouldn’t bear the blame for the entire team.

Now a better thing to pick on would be the defense. Ask me whether I want to fix colt and keep the shitty defense, or fix the defense and leave colt as is, I’d take the latter.

Wow that went on longer than I wanted

by owenh on Jul 31, 2008 9:07 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

The thing is

QBs are like the POTUS. They get blamed when things go wrong and get credit when things go right. They may not have control over every situation, but the end result is placed on them.

by afaeguy on Aug 1, 2008 12:36 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

This is a valid concern.

A poor or non-existent rush on the QB will make the CBs look horrible and put up equally unappealing stats.

A great rush will have the opposite effect, all things being equal.

This is not to demean or embrace Texas’ CBs, just one of the hard facts of football life. The better CBs can cover a few seconds longer in a given situation, the poor ones are in trouble more often.

That Texas’ CBs have some experience and have been exposed to some degree – and now with more intense coaching from Akina and Muschamp – they should be improved, as should the players behind them (the Browns especially). But the inexperienced depth is also a critical concern as well.

by whills on Aug 1, 2008 1:05 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

CBs

I think that this year is a trial by fire for a lot of the team but especially the CBs. It’s something the OL went through last year. Having the CBs tried through a tough schedule this year will only help us in the following years.

by afaeguy on Aug 1, 2008 1:22 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Unstated here

is the sense of aggression Muschamp intends to add. When you’re playing bend-or-break and just laying back due to a containing rush, that is the real trial by fire. It’s not just passive, it’s a passive state of mind, too. So if Muschamp is successful, that will change, too.

An attacking defense is a whole ‘nother state of mind. We’ll know by six games in how far this team can go this year and much of the set-up for 2009.

by whills on Aug 1, 2008 11:31 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

K-State

he couldn’t ge the ball over the line!

by Longhorns84 on Aug 1, 2008 12:43 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

tipped balls

are still the QB’s fault

by Longhorns84 on Aug 2, 2008 11:51 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Let's not forget that...

The primary reason we didn’t win the Big XII and play in a BCS bowl in 2006 was that Colt got hurt against K-State and was far from 100% against A&M. He’s more than capable of getting us there, he just needs the supporting cast and to play within himself.

by jw4425 on Aug 1, 2008 9:59 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I think your defense had more to do with why you lost to K-State

your offense scored more than enough to win that game behind Jevan Snead

I’ve never bought the Colt injury excuse for the A&M game (he looked fine on the first series, until the failed 4th and short play), but that is an argument we don’t need to go into.

by Beergut on Aug 2, 2008 2:41 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

12 points? c'mon

if ANY team held a&m to to 12 points, they shoud win BIG. SOMETHING had to be wrong with Colt.

by Longhorns84 on Aug 2, 2008 11:53 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Eh, no reason to go down this road

You think Colt was hurt, I think Colt was hurt, most of the Burnt Orange faithful think Colt was hurt. Beergut doesn’t, but it seems he’s registering his disagreement and at least acknowledging that this will just be a counter productive argument. Fair enough.

by learned hand on Aug 3, 2008 6:48 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

He had a bad season last year and a good year in 2006.

Too early to write him off at this point.

The thing that concerns me about the INT’s is that we really don’t know whether the root cause was:

-Lingering effects from the injuries vs. KSU and A&M
-Poor O-line play
-Getting happy feet and not staying in the pocket long enough
-Poor decision making
-Poor field vison
-Lack of big playmakers at WR
-An offensive game plan so poor that the QB is forced into doing too much on broken plays.

If I had to bet, I’d go with a little bit of all of that, weighted heavily towards the last one. Go back and look at our big gains last year and you’ll see alot of our big gains on broken plays where Colt had to improvise.

by Horncasting on Jul 31, 2008 9:05 PM CDT   0 recs

totally agree

Lets call this season a tie breaker for all the colt haters
2006: Yay we love Colt he is responsible for all our success and is the best TX QB ever!
2007: Boo Colt sucks he is responsible for all of our problems and is the worst Tx QB ever!
2008: ?

Now I’m no football guru or player for that fact but when people blame QB’s it seems like a cop out to me. The laymen football fan will say Oh that guy who throws the ball messed up! It’s his fault!

Last year on Mondays in class after the Kansas St and Oklahoma losses the girls were the worst offenders. Ugh. “Um Colt like really sucks we need a new quarterback”. How insightful. We should fire Mack and hire you! Well at least you’ll look better…

by owenh on Jul 31, 2008 9:21 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

I feel reasonably

.......certain that few, if any, Longhorn fans would consider themselves as “Colt haters”. Certainly there are those who find more fault in Colt’s play. However, I feel confident most Longhorn fans know 2 seasons with 493 completions out of 742 attempts (66.4%) for 5,873 yds. is exceptional. Colt’s 148.9 passer rating and the 66.4 completion percentage are the best of any UT quarterback with at least 700 attempts. Ever! Let that sink in for a moment…....

In the meantime, Colt has another two seasons to start as the Longhorn QB. I can’t think of a single career record that is not in danger of being broken by Colt McCoy.

--- All roads to the Big-XII Championship lead through OU/RRS. It's not just another game! We're all about championships here. ---

by HornChamps on Aug 1, 2008 12:13 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

yes

I was merely demonstrating the way less informed fans jump to conclusions, i.e. blame the QB
I was trying to show how everyone was loving colt one day and hating colt the next. tsk tsk so quick to forget how great he’s been so far.

I have full faith in him.

by owenh on Aug 1, 2008 12:23 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Game management is the real critical skill.

From his own admission, Colt didn’t vary much from the prescribed script his freshman year, but last year he did get off the reservation in some games. This was his analogy to driving, that he got too comfortable and took chances and, obviously, became careless. It’s a good analogy. I think we’ll see much more of the good Colt than the bad. The future – and all those records – are within his grasp if he becomes a mature college QB and handles all the basics.

I think game management is the most important key for him, and I think it will be one area where his emotional growth will really show.

The real concern I’d heard about his passing is the deep ball, but it is also notable that Texas doesn’t key its attack to the deep ball and uses more WCO control.

However, I haven’t felt the Horns stretched the field near as much as they should have last year, but part of that, particularly pre-Nebraska last year, was that the Horns didn’t run well enough to set that up either (and losing Sweed diminished that aspect to some degree).

That’s a nasty Catch-22 I hope they can overcome.

by whills on Aug 1, 2008 1:20 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Management
I think game management is the most important key for him, and I think it will be one area where his emotional growth will really show.

From his own admissions, he veered from gameplans last season, but I don’t think that was entirely his fault. With a carousel of OL and losing his deep threat at WR, he felt it was on his shoulders to make the plays to win the games. Hopefully in the early games we can establish a running game and some sort of deep threat at WR to help him. Having the rest of the pieces will put less pressure on him to be the playmaker.

by afaeguy on Aug 1, 2008 1:42 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

records

I could care less about records in college football, but I’m 100% behind Colt this year! Its time for him to shine.

by Longhorns84 on Aug 1, 2008 11:20 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

2006

wasn’t that good. The season finished horrible.

by Longhorns84 on Aug 2, 2008 11:54 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

PB, I would argue

with your statement that Virginia Tech was “solid”. I thought Virginia Tech was by far the last impressive BCS team, and that includes Hawai’i. People forget how out-and-out horrible the ACC was last season.
Throw in the fact that Kansas didn’t even belong in the BCS over Missouri, and I just don’t see that BCS bowl win as proof that they’re a good team. I think Kansas had a truly magical season where everything fell into place for them (including a berth in a bowl game they didn’t deserve, and getting to play a pathetic opponent in said bowl game), and I think they’ll come back to Earth – hard – this season.

Regarding Colt McCoy: I remember Greg Davis saying at one point last season that “he was beginning to see things that weren’t there”. I think after all the pre-season attention he received, he felt pressure to improve on what he did his freshman season, and sometimes just forced the action.

A non-sequitir: I’ve mentioned my texas-obsessed friend before. He hates pre-season magazines, thinks they’re all rags that are mostly filled with obsolete information by the time they’re published.
He called me the other day, said he found this preview magazine on texas that “I’m not gonna lie, it’s pretty decent.” (Coming from him, that’s high praise.) I asked what preview magazine it was, he said, “The Eyes of Texas”. I laughed, and told him he should check out this site.
I’ve only heard him compliment two previews in my life, and the other one was Phil Steele’s magazine, so a 1000 cocktails to you, sir.

by Beergut on Aug 1, 2008 2:15 AM CDT   0 recs

Virginia Tech the best BCS team?

are you kidding. They got destroyed by LSU, and lossed to BC

by Longhorns84 on Aug 1, 2008 9:40 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Read it again

He meant least* impressive BCS team, the called VT a ‘pathetic opponent’. Both statement are completely correct. The ACC is a joke.

by jw4425 on Aug 1, 2008 10:05 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

oh ok

because VT is overrated every year.

by Longhorns84 on Aug 1, 2008 11:22 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

cause and effect and QB's

I really thought this whole exchange was very interesting. It is sometimes very difficult to understand the cause of poor play by a QB. Great surrounding players can make a QB look like the field general of all time; poor players can make him look like an ignoramus. The keys for me in Colt having a better season are the left side of the line, particularly whomever plays left guard. That was the trouble spot last year because rushes up the middle kept Colt from stepping up or into his throws. If they do their job, Colt doesn’t get happy feet and the yips. The second piece is finding a wide receiver among the throng that can push the opposing safeties back 5 yards. I’m not sure who this will be yet, but without it, it’s tough to avoid sacks.funbles and INTs when no one is open because the LB’s jump the hot routes. If those two things happen, Colt becomes a hero again.

by burnt in ny on Aug 1, 2008 7:06 AM CDT   0 recs

Malcolm Williams at WR

and MAYBE Tray Allen playing some LG until his time comes at LT.

by Longhorns84 on Aug 1, 2008 11:25 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Young backfield

I’m not as worried about all the defensive backs as others seem to be. If Palmer, who is entering his 5th year in the program with a year as a starter and another as a nickelback+Junior Deon Beasley who got a lot of action last year and some the year before both who’ve been tutored by Duane Akina don’t count as experienced DB’s I don’t know what to tell you. Next year our Corners will probably be Curtis Brown and Deon Beasley. Their experience level will be almost exactly the same as Palmer and Beasley heading into this year. This is college football, players leave. It’s not a crazy adjustment.
As for our young safeties, they’ve each had 1 year as redshirts with fall practice, bowl practice (where Earl Thomas was allegedly the best DB on the team), Spring practice, offseason drills, and upcoming fall practice. All of it with Akina and half of it with Muschamp. It’s not a ton of experience but it’s not as if they’re true freshmen. Colt led the team at a more challenging position to learn with that much experience.
Additionally, the team is playing more man defense (as opposed to zone) which requires less experience to play well, and should be backed by a strong pass rush. We may have a bit of a learning curve but the youth of the backfield is very far from a crisis. I expect immediate improvement against the pass.

by RolloTamasi on Aug 1, 2008 9:00 AM CDT   0 recs

I agree with you about the experience

plus this tidbit. The Horns should have a more conventional defense as opposed to the cover 4, something most of them haven’t seen extensively before coming to Texas or even while they were there. It’s not a big thing, but it does require learning new reactions and reads as opposed to keying off their prior experience and refining what they already know.

imho the safeties, despite their inexperience, will adjust quickly. That doesn’t mean they’ll be invulnerable, but in 3-4 games they’ll be fine. Improvements in the rush – just having a rush and better LBs – should will help them a great deal. That front 7 (or six) is the real key to how much the DBs are hung out to dry.

by whills on Aug 1, 2008 11:25 AM CDT to parent up   0 recs

In defense of conventional wisdom

Perhaps the interception rate can be taken as a measure of overall effectiveness with interceptions being a symptom of poor line play, lack of balance, bad routes, etc. You get more interceptions when you are trying to pick up long yardage due to penalties, ineffective running game, or getting desperate when you are down in the score.

Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.

by Caradoc on Aug 1, 2008 10:53 AM CDT   0 recs

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