Poll: The Defensive Line vs FAU
The defensive line was good last night against FAU... at least I thought so. Unfortunately, I didn't have my TiVo set up in time to get this game recorded, so we'll poll the audience on this one and see if we can get a consensus opinion.
There appears to be a segment of the fanbase (unclear how large) who thought Texas' defensive line played poorly last night. As Horn Brain notes in his wrap, he and I were excitedly chatting about the game last night, but found ourselves unable to agree on whether the defensive line did a good job.
Most of FAU's passing success came early in the game and, I thought, at the expense of: (1) poor tackling, (2) poor defense of the screen pass, and (3) subpar play from the DBs. Moreover, I thought FAU's failure to sustain that success came in large part because Smith had no time to sit in the pocket, let a receiver get down field, or step into a throw. Miller and Houston weren't recording sacks, but they were driving three linemen backwards and destroying any hope Smith had of stepping into a throw in the pocket. It wasn't long before Schnellenberger just started moving the pocket by sentding Smith rolling to the sidelines in an attempt to buy some time. Orakpo, meanwhile, was hell on wheels, while Henry Melton looked a different player from a year ago. The Owls' attempts to run were wasted efforts.
Without the benefit of game tape, though, I'll consider the question open and ask for competing views. If you thought the D-Line wasn't up to snuff last night, explain what you saw.
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i do think that the Horns' pass rush had an effect on Smith,
and this did make the game a lot easier than it could have been for the young DBs. I have read in a bunch of places (I think maybe even BON) that Muschamp’s style is – while aggressive – still more focused on subtler forms of pressure. As a result, I did get the sense from the stands that there was not a whole lot going on in terms of real pressure (e.g. sacks), but I still think they got the job done commendably.
However, while controlling the LOS and pressuring Smith is one thing, doing so against Sam Bradford and his band of big uglies or a scrambler like Chase Daniel is something else entirely. I don’t think, based on what I saw last night, that the Horns are ready to take on a real O-Line just yet, but they’ll get there.
by longhornglory on Aug 31, 2008 6:42 PM CDT 0 recs
From the horses mouth
The Longhorns’ kiddie corps in the secondary impressed FAU quarterback Rusty Smith, who struggled through a 15-for-31 passing performance.
“They looked young, but they were very talented, I’ll give them that,” Smith said. “And their front four really did a number on us tonight. They pressured me well. We knew they would have great athletes and they did.”
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/notebook?page=notebook/gamedayFinal081
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by thanos on Aug 31, 2008 7:28 PM CDT 0 recs
in his own words:
Muschamp on defensive pressure against FAU, from Chip Brown, “Texas Starts To Form and Identity” article on orangebloods.com (posted August 31).
“With all the slide protection, they eliminated a lot of our pressure,” Muschamp said. "The big play they hit in the first half, we pressured. They maxed it, and they hit (Cortez) Gent in the middle of the field (for 33 yards on third-and-7). We stayed doubled on him most of the game. That was the one play we weren’t.
“We made some adjustments. We stayed out of the pressure (in the second half) because of their protections and because of our double coverage on the X (Gent).”
by longhornglory on Aug 31, 2008 7:30 PM CDT 0 recs
Poll question is too broad
PB – I don’t think you’ll find anyone that watched the game that would say our DL didn’t shut down their running game. To steal a quote from another poster, those were basically wasted plays for their offense. The big issue is with the pass rush.
From the stands, everyone in my section seemed disappointed by it. Yes, this team had alot of starters back and their QB was good at getting rid of the ball quickly. However, this is still a Sun Belt team, playing in our house, without a starting C and TE. And this is an issue that was been discussed by the media and coaching staff all spring and summer (heck going back a decade for Mack with his “we’ve got to pressure the QB with the front 4” mantra). Given all of that, and the fact that our biggest games this year will feature better Offensive Lines and QB’s just as good at getting rid of the ball quickly, I would have like to have seen more. I didn’t see much last night that would make me think we are going to put heat on Bradford, Harrell or Daniel.
by Horncasting on Aug 31, 2008 9:46 PM CDT 0 recs
Thanks for the feedback
I didn’t think it possible to capture every feeling in the poll, which is why I invited comments.
Thanks for chiming in…
--PB--
by PB @ BON on
Aug 31, 2008 11:01 PM CDT
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MB-TF has some highlights
You can see plenty of pressure being brought on Smith, he was throwing across his body, off his back foot, checking down for no gain. He is well coached and knows to get rid of the ball quickly. Sacks are great, the emotion, the momentum, but pressure creates turnovers as well in the form of picks or merely forcing punts. You don’t see a lot of statue 6’5’’ stand-in-the pocket QBs anymore who will just take the sack or lack mobility. He was rolling out, getting out of the pocket etc.
Personally i would have liked to see a sack but it didnt seem to be a glaring point of concern. They couldn’t run, they had no choice but to throw quick passes.
by owenh on Aug 31, 2008 10:07 PM CDT 0 recs
There was a time.....
….when moving a QB by a rush, upset an offense. More and more in the Big 12 we have mobile QB’s that can be efficient throwing even when the there isn’t any real pocket.
The real measure of a good rush is a speed rush that can get to the Qb before the receivers have settled into their patterns. With the level of complexities of the best offenses in the conference, they can adjust to the type of pressure the Horns applied to FAU. For a rush to move that quick, the D line has to get around the blocks and not take on the block. It looked to me like to many times the Defensive line tried to rush over the blocker.
We see another sign of maladjustment of the defense this year, 255 passing yards and 37 yards rushing. I would be worrying less about the rush and more about the pass. The top tier of teams in Division I are passing teams and to hang with that competition the horns need to have a defense that can stop a passing offense more than it needs a strong rushing defense. In fact I suspect a good pass stopping secondary will be a decent run stopping group. It makes more sense to configure the whole defense to stop the pass first and not worrying about the rush.
by Xerxes on Aug 31, 2008 10:09 PM CDT 0 recs
its a dilemma, stop the run or stop the pass
It’s why nobody could stop VY
by owenh on
Aug 31, 2008 10:38 PM CDT
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line was effective
I spent most of my time watching the DBs and LBs from the stands. However I thought the line did a great job. Henry Melton looked like a completely different player and I kept double checking because he looked like Lamarr Houston out there. On several occasions Melton slipped through two blockers and either put pressure on the QB or forced the RB to pick a different hole. Without the benefit of DVR it’s hard to tell what I missed, but from the looks of it I thought the line was pretty solid.
by BMG on Sep 1, 2008 10:47 AM CDT 0 recs
why
did they let Melton play RB? what a waste of two years
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by Hook'em13 on Sep 1, 2008 12:27 PM CDT 0 recs
Part him, part coaches, I'd bet.
He wanted RB, the coaches probably thought they could get him to get his pads down and run low, because they had to see that problem from the outset. If he’d had accomplished that, he’d still be running. But he didn’t and I suspect his sophomore year, when that became apparent, it was time for a heart-to-heart.
The player has to buy into a change.
The proper quote, a little paraphrased, is from Worm*: “You can’t teach a man who is afraid.” Or angry or resentful or any other obstructive states of mind, and expect much success.
- Worm was Crazy Horse’s father; from Mari Sandoz’ Crazy Horse, Strange Man of the Oglalas.
by whills on
Sep 1, 2008 1:40 PM CDT
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Mack loves big backs
Plus he promised Melton he’d get the chance.
by Horncasting on
Sep 1, 2008 3:36 PM CDT
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I thought the line was good
But I wished to see a little bit more. I wanted to see some sacks, but in their defense, the FAU quarterback often released the ball pretty quickly, sometimes just to avoid the sack. They did put on some good pressure to force some bad throws, and they obviously gobbled up the running game.
I don’t think they got that much help from the blitzers, though. A couple of times, not even Kindle could shed his blocker and get to the QB. All in all, a good performance, but I guess us greedy fans wanted to see a little more.
By the way, anyone else nearly faint when Orakpo went down? Man. Don’t scare us like that.
by TheElusiveShadow on Sep 1, 2008 10:47 PM CDT 0 recs













