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The Q-Package: Perspective and Resolution

The Q package seemed to come out of the frustration of last year, the lack of threat in so many games until JC got his wheels rolling. We needed more weapons, so it seemed, but what the Horns really needed, it turns out, was an effective OL.

Now, in the aftermath of the FAU game, it is obvious they have that, at least to some degree, and it should get much better over time, barring injuries. Suddenly, the offense operates relatively well, and the Horns appear to have threats galore.

Time changes and so does the situation.

I had the thought after the game that they wouldn't use it against UTEP. Just no need against a team that gives up 500 yards a game; keep practicing and perfecting it. Save it for Arkansas or CU, it's just not necessary immediately. And suddenly I realized it might not be necessary at all.

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If, indeed, Chiles is going to be the second team QB, then he needs the reps on the field running the whole offense. And you would think the Horns know they need that in their back-up. Otherwise, Sherrod Harris needs the reps to polish his game on the field.

We can definitely use Chiles’ talent on the field, but we also need him to be effective when he is. The longer this goes on, the more I feel it’s a ‘square peg in a round hole’ situation and needs resolution.

For me, a lot of this is Colt McCoy's performance last night. He laid down a marker. As he definitely becomes a more mature and polished QB, the greater the gap between him and everyone else, especially Chiles. And with Gilbert coming in next year, I just can’t justify the time invested in Chiles unless he becomes a H-back hybrid and gives Colt and the team another weapon.

What I’m saying is that I think the need for the Q package has already been diminished by circumstances. I think Fozzy and some of the other backs will be ‘Q packages’ all by themselves.

Perhaps the real key to all this has been Cody Johnson. As a big, hard-running RB, he gave the Horns something they really needed in several key situations:  the goal line jumbo formation and on third downs - and just to punish people and to control and run out the clock in key situations. As a FB, he adds another immediate threat that the Horns haven't had in a long time.

Thus, my perspective on the Q-Package changed. The necessity is much less in my observation, although I realize it might not have changed for John Chiles personally. The need now is to develop all our threats, to continue to polish the offensive line,  Colt, and the RBs and receivers.

John Chiles is a talented player but he needs to find his own on-field role and find it soon. Time is not on his side; it's a scare commodity. Perhaps the Q-package has some bang for the bucks and time invested, perhaps circumstances will change, but right now I see it being passed on the inside by faster horses and greater needs.

 

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keep it in the arsenal

I can see your perspective, no need to “fix something that aint broke” with respect to Colt McCoy and the conventional offense, but why stop when everything is okay? Why not continue to sprinkle it in. If as you and severals others (okay me too) think Gilbert is going to take over relatively quickly, we need to get what we can out of Chiles. Unless the game is in hand Chiles might not see the field without the Q package.

I think people want to think of the “Q package” as more than a change-up, but thats all it is. At least to me.

As for the new weapons, they do indeed look very promising.
Cody Johnson seems to be the bruiser weve been needing for a while.
Fozzy has me excited with his preseason buzz
Blaine Irby has impressed me a whole lot with his limited action
Ogbannaya is money catching out of the backfield
Not to mention the host of wideouts wainting in the wings.

by owenh on Aug 31, 2008 10:23 PM CDT   0 recs

I don't think Colt is going anywhere. He'll be here next year.

So, barring an unfortunate circumstance, that seems more set in stone today than it did going into the FAU game. Frankly, I don’t see where Chiles is going to get the time and circumstance to overtake him. Perhaps he’ll get a shot if Gilbert doesn’t develop quickly, always a possibility. I don’t write anyone in unless there is solid reason to do so. Now there is with Colt.

I was a little antsy about mentioning this but there it is.

Perhaps the Q Package can be refined and be something special. Once we get in Big 12 play, we’ll need every weapon we have and then some. Like war, it’s the nature of the beast.

by whills on Aug 31, 2008 10:28 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

agree with everything you said

its a work in progress, definitily not a high priority but something to keep in mind when gameplanning. I’d be happy to see Chiles take your conventionall handoff and run the ball to the outside. It’s pretty low risk. It doesn’t even need to be an “explosive”, just a 5-6 yard gain or something on first down to stay ahead of the chains.

by owenh on Aug 31, 2008 10:34 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

What has Chiles shown

that has people so excited about him? I understand the potential and talent but when has it converted to the field? I am not bashing him, just curious. I find myself waiting and waiting but haven’t seen anything to get excited about.

Maybe it was the Tecate or QuĂ­ntuplo Equis or Sol or Dale’s Pale Ale but I didn’t see as much creativity as everyone else. I am also concerned that Colt barely averaged 9 ypc and rarely looked downfield. Albeit, he didn’t have the need. You would think that Mack has learned his lesson in making QB promises…..

I know it sounds like a complaint but it really isn’t after a win like this. I just found myself with deja vu too often….

"Don't ask yourself what the world needs -- ask yourself what makes you come alive, and then go do it. Because what the world needs is people who have come alive."

-- Harold Thurman Whitman

by thanos on Sep 1, 2008 12:15 AM CDT   0 recs

Q package

What was new with last Saturday’s Q package?. Nothing. Sorry to be harsh but it remains predictable and unsuccessful.

by burntorange81 on Sep 1, 2008 8:25 PM CDT   0 recs

I can't see that it is a functioning package yet.

That was the point; is there a there there?

by whills on Sep 1, 2008 8:58 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

just put Chiles in a SW motion series ala Wildcat

or Ole Miss Wild Rebel

Whitaker is the motion back, and Chiles has the option to hand it off, run it himself, or pass to three receivers.

Of course, Davis will never go for this.

by Beergut on Sep 2, 2008 12:26 AM CDT   0 recs

I think Chiles and Whitaker

represent about as powerful a running threat the Horns could muster on the edge. With the option pass, this would be a serious headache for DCs.

The Old Davis wouldn’t go for it for the Old Mack would like the risks.

However, if indeed, we are in the era of the New Davis and New Mack, who knows. Of course, they have to get it operative on the field first and so far that isn’t happening. It might but the point is that it may never reach maturity. Late in the season they might wish they had such a threat.

by whills on Sep 2, 2008 1:06 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

Mccoy...

Sorry Fella’s
 I’m a colt fan through and through. I think Harris is better than Chiles, thats just me.

by mccoy12 on Sep 2, 2008 7:15 AM CDT   0 recs

Frankly, I do, too. Just as a straight-up QB.

The question is: Where do you put that talent to use if not at QB?

I’m not talking replacing Colt – I think he has matured into a first-rate college QB that can lead the Horns and I can say that without reservation. The vast majority of football plays are about making the right judgment. The big plays are a secondary result (most of the time). And that judgment is the real key to the quality of your QB (after that you can go to fulfillment of that judgment, successful drives and scoring, clock management, team leadership, etc.). The team has full confidence in Colt at this time and no one wants to thwart that wonderful asset.

The question here is what do you do with your other assets, how do you deploy other weapons? Are you always working on the future as well as the present; do you hold a pat hand or improve your lie?

Despite the fact John has never produced at the high level on the field doesn’t mean he can’t or won’t. But like all athletes blessed with incredible physical talents, he still has to build those skill sets and find a workable role in the team structure. And he has to do that in the context of not just his wishes, but the coaches and the team needs. The current need seems less at the moment, but when the Horns hit mid-season, I suspect the desire for more and greater weapons will return in force even thought this has the possibility to be a widely diversified offense. (Seven TDs from seven different players is a damn good indicator.)

While I once thought over the years we would save special things for OU, I realize that was just my imagination and actually Mack’s nut sack was shrinking up. We didn’t save anything, we just stayed conservative.

Therefore, I don’t presume we’re saving the Q Package for later, although, to me, that seems a good course for investment in both the development of Chiles and of the offense. Personally, I always carry a few extra bullets when I’m hunting. No that I’m a bad shot – I’m damn good – but sometimes there are circumstances where everything changes and you need those extras.

by whills on Sep 2, 2008 1:27 PM CDT to parent up   0 recs

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