Just Got Back From Practice
And the best two plays of the practice were Fozzy Whitaker (wearing #28 now) running for a long TD down the sideline, and John Chiles throwing a beautiful pass, about 30 yds in the air, to Kirkendoll for a TD.
My thoughts after watching practice:
- Dan Buckner and Malcolm Williams are BIG. My friend and I were trying to figure out who was bigger during the entire practice. I think it goes to Buckner.
- Fozzy looks like the quickest player on the field. BY FAR.
- Desean Hales made a great reaching catch in which he had to speed up and run under the ball.
- DJ Monroe got some action, but from the looks of it he is dead last on the WR depth chart. But then again, Mack starts everyone at last and their skills eventually move them up. DJ looked quick, but he also looked very small. Desean Hales looked bigger.
- John Chiles and Colt split time pretty much equally. There were about 3 times they were both in the backfield together, but I believe all three times Colt handed it off and then faked an option to JC.
- All of the TE's looked good, honestly. Irby, Harris, and Marshall. Marshall looked the best, IMO. Ullman was very solid, but he is so big and represents no real threat after the catch. Marshall looked fast, and Irby was pretty good too. Harris looked fast as well.
- The starting Offense had Cosby, Shipley, and Kirkendoll. Don't know how much we should read into this though.
Defense:
- I couldn't see the starting front four very well, but I saw Orakpo and Houston for sure. I know that's not earth shattering news, but I want to be totally legit on what I saw.
- Starting LB's were Bobino, Muckelroy, and KEENAN ROBINSON. Again, I don't know how much to look into this, but that stuck me as significant. But maybe he is starting only because Muschamp hasn't seen much of Kindle in practice yet.
- Starting DB's were Palmer, Beasley, Earl Thomas, and BLAKE GIDEON.
- In Nickel Packages Thomas was Nickelback, and Christian Scott and Ben Wells were safeties.
- Thomas was everywhere. Everywhere as in, if the ball was somewhere, he was there too.
OK I have to run, but I wanted ya'll to see what I saw. If you have any questions about what went down, please feel free to ask, I'll be answering as many as I can.
Hook'em!
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I'd expect nothing less from our OC in waiting...
Can somebody get a confirm on the Williams vs. Buckner debate? According to the roster (which is a creative work of fiction) Williams is huge- Calvin Williams sized, i.e. bigger than Terrell Owens. If he’s no bigger than a guy coming out of high school (no matter how well regarded), I’m going to feel more lied to than usual.
by learned hand on
Aug 6, 2008 10:51 PM CDT
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I was at practice also, here's what my untrained eye saw:
Earl Thomas WAS everywhere. We are going to like watching him play at the 40 acres. Also, it looks like he and Ben Wells are pushing each other, b/c Wells was pretty good also. One guy would be on the field and make a play, or hit someone, then the other guy would replace him and do something just as good.
Beasley pretty much shut down everyone he was covering. He made a great play covering Quan on a sideline GO route.
Chiles did make a nice pass to Cap’n Kirk for that TD. Did you see who was covering him on that play? I thought it was Palmer, but most of the DBs had their jersey’s pulled up like they were wearing belly shirts, plus I was on the other side of the field, so it was hard to get the jersey numbers. Also, the safety was way out of position; any idea who that was?
More Chiles: I almost think that he got more snaps than Colt and Harris combined. He is uncomfortable in the pocket. Takes a ton of time making up his mind where to throw the ball. Some passes were good, some were still at the WRs feet. His best play was on a bad snap – the ball hit the ground, and he quickly picked it up, found a TE over the middle, and rifled it in there. He’s much better when he plays without thinking
During warm ups, it looked like Harris had the nicest spirals and deep passes. Against air he was money. On the few possessions against defenders though, he struggled. Chiles’ mid range passes are getting better. He really puts the ball on a rope. His deep balls tend to flutter and die. The talent is there, and to me it looks like the coaches are dedicated to making him a quaterback. I dont know how economical this is, since Gilbert arrives next year. But he did have a nice pass while rolling out on a bootleg.
WRs: this group was a non factor tonight. They were blanketed the whole time, and aside from that TD to the Cap’n, I didn’t see anyone getting separation downfield. If there isn’t much improvement we may need to become a running team. As for WIlliams v. Buckner, they looked to be similar in height, I dont remember who was bigger though. Phil Payne looked pretty jacked. Also looked really agile in the warm up drills, so he’s one of those guys with TREMENDOUS UPSIDE POTENTIAL, to quote Jay Bilas.
As for who started on defense, I would put no stock in who “started” and who played with whom. Muschamp rotated those guys like crazy, and I think he was just mixing stuff up. He played 3 linebackers pretty often, which I dont think we’ll see in the regular season against all those spread offenses.
Kindle had a great play, where he blitzed from the outside and just DETONATED Fozzy, en route to a sack of Chiles. It was like watching a paper bag get hit by a train.
That’s it, that’s what I saw. If I missed something, or have factual errors, I freely admit I have no idea what I’m looking for. This is just what I saw, colored by opinion. My football experience ended at 9th grade, where I was starting at Left Out for 3 years. Oh yeah, Rashad Bobino is a really cool dude. Let’s not go overboard on bashing this year.
by DogTown on
Aug 6, 2008 11:21 PM CDT
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Payne was really big!
But I don’t think he has the intangibles that Buckner and Williams have. He could move to TE tho, he’s that big.
by texasfan05 on
Aug 7, 2008 1:55 PM CDT
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Thanks guys.
Is there still room on the Earl Thomas bandwagon? I want on!
by ctex80 on
Aug 6, 2008 11:32 PM CDT
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Awesome
Thanks to everyone who made it to practice. The working stiffs of the world salute you! Great to hear that Chiles has, from the sound of it, vastly improved his passing game in the off season. Any threat at all will keep defenses honest!
I like our speed. We’ve got the tools. I’d rather be working with this than a bunch of experienced guys who can’t play.
by 98horn on
Aug 6, 2008 11:46 PM CDT
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Just (back) in Austin for 6 hours now...
And naturally I had to be amongst those out there taking in live football in pads. An interesting observation I had were that the second and third team offenses (led by Chiles and Harris respectively) both seemed to break out a wrinkle that we’ve seen from a number of teams of late (Tony Franklin’s auspicious Auburn debut is one such example. I’m sure there’s a few other huge examples my road weary brain is missing; 20 hours of driving will do that to you) where by which after lining up, the entire team looks to the sideline to receive a series of signals, makes minor adjustments (a player in motion perhaps, or a shift here and there) before quickly executing the play ushered in from the coaches in the distance. Interestingly enough the signals seemed to be almost exclusively originating from the mind (and subsequently hands) of one Major Applewhite; perhaps his impact on the offense will be greater than first imagined. It didn’t appear, however, that Colt and co. ever turned to this form of “semaphore” offensive play calling.
by WorstFan on
Aug 6, 2008 11:59 PM CDT
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Buckner/Williams
we know they are big, but did they play good? Is one playing better than the other?
Its seems that if Fozzy can learn how to block big blitzing LB’s, the position is his to lose.
by Longhorns84 on
Aug 7, 2008 8:12 AM CDT
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For what it's worth
Ogbonnaya was in at half back on a majority of the first team individual practices and formations. It looked like McGee and Whittaker were alternating who was working with the second and third teams but If I recall correctly each saw a number of snaps with the top group.
A few other random observations:
by WorstFan on
Aug 7, 2008 8:40 AM CDT
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Muschamp/Defense
1. Any sighting of Muschamp screaming at the kids/running across the field to celebrate/doing anything Muschamp-y? You know how we all eat that up.
2. Any new defensive schemes away from the 4-3? I know there was take of 4-2-5 or something. Did you notice anything different on defense?
by pleaseplaykindle on
Aug 7, 2008 10:05 AM CDT
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#2
There was a report on another board that we actually showed some 3-4 with (I believe) Orakpo playing as the standup DE/LB.
by Horncasting on
Aug 7, 2008 10:25 AM CDT
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NCAA Football 09
I use this in the new NCAA football game on 360 and Orakpo has been racking up INTs.
by pleaseplaykindle on
Aug 7, 2008 10:49 AM CDT
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I don't know if it was the 3-4
But I do remember Orakpo and Sam Acho standing as if they were LB’s. This may be the new posistion that they were talking about earlier. The Buck position or something, where they can drop into coverage or rush the QB.
by texasfan05 on
Aug 7, 2008 12:06 PM CDT
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3-4
Really? It sounds like we’ve got a lot up our sleeves for having so many young players to teach.
by RolloTamasi on
Aug 7, 2008 10:27 AM CDT
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I was there last night right by the WRs
Buckner is the tallest WR we have and I just cant believe all the talent we have waiting in the wings at that position…sick!
by TX HOCKEY! on
Aug 7, 2008 11:40 AM CDT
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Williams vs Buckner
I really didn’t see much separating between the two. Williams did look a little faster, but both make catches look so easy. They were both very solid.
Sam Acho had one huge play where he blew past Tray Allen and got to Fozzy AS Chiles was handing the ball off to him. Same and Tray had a little scuffle earlier in the scrimmage I believe.
Worstfan is right, Shipley looked JACKED.
Chiles lined up as receiver a couple of times. But in all honestly, it was very hard to the offense to do anything with Sergio and Thomas shutting things down before they could even get started. I don’t think it’s any question that Sergio will have the starting job once the season starts.
by texasfan05 on
Aug 7, 2008 12:12 PM CDT
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Kindle
I think part of the reason for having Kindle on 2nd team last night was motivational and the other part was that Muschamp did not have a chance to work with Kindle at all until Monday, so he had to go with what he knew. I think it is safe to say now that Kindle has earned a starting spot.
Offense is where I will be more concerned about the older, less talented guys getting to start over the younger ones, especially at RB and on the O-line. I have visions of our very first play being a handoff to Chris Ogbonnaya.
by bassale47 on
Aug 7, 2008 1:15 PM CDT
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first play
horizontal pass in the backfield to Cosby, for a gain of 1 yard. you heard it here first.
by SelimSivad on
Aug 7, 2008 1:38 PM CDT
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love it...
greg davis…u are my hero
by vy til i die on
Aug 7, 2008 9:29 PM CDT
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Major Applewhite
I’m still in awe and disbelief that we got him back here. I so desperately want to lift my gameday ban on t-shirts and bust out the old classic Applewhite shirt.
by ryanlionrah on
Aug 7, 2008 1:40 PM CDT
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I think were going to score fast and often the first game
FAU might have an offense. But they are still a Sunbelt team and their D-line should get smashed by our O-line.
Fozzy gets 2 TD’s, Vondrell gets 2, and Chiles gets one rushing to go along with Colt’s 2 passing.
Final score Texas 49 FAU 17
by texasfan05 on
Aug 7, 2008 1:53 PM CDT
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I predict we win every game 2-0
Boom Motherf#*$ker!
by Horn Brain on
Aug 7, 2008 1:58 PM CDT
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No one has
.......mentioned that Henry MELTON started at DE opposite Orakpo?!
On obvious passing downs, I can see Muschamp flipping Melton and Lamaar Houston, as Melton can hold his own in the middle and obviously Lamaar Houston was our most disruptive defensive player last season.
--- All roads to the Big-XII Championship lead through OU/RRS. It's not just another game! We're all about championships here. ---
by HornChamps on
Aug 7, 2008 5:24 PM CDT
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Listening to the radio
Ketch was so excited about so many different things; I must admit I got a halfie while driving down Lamar.
-Sergio sacked the QB on both of his first 2 plays of practice, absolutely blowing up/through McGee and Fozzy on the way there.
-Chiles looked promising most of the time. Encourages the implementation of a scaled-down Wildhog package for him.
-This is probably the fastest team Mack has ever had, even faster than the 05 team. Speed at every position, and it was exciting.
by BigTexBD on
Aug 7, 2008 5:36 PM CDT
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Gideon
With all the hype surrounding Aaron Williams during recruiting, nobody ever mentioned that Blake Gideon was the MVP in that district
Gideon is an extremely smart DB with very good size and speed. Plus he enrolled early and already has worked with Muschamp in the spring. I saw him play in high school last year and am not surprised he’s already in there. Scott Ware potential in this guy
"Excuse me while I whip this out."
by FreedomDip on
Aug 7, 2008 5:48 PM CDT
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that last line...
...had better not be a tease. If time comes and things don’t pan out that way, 54b and a host of others will be grossly disappointed.
by BigTexBD on
Aug 7, 2008 7:48 PM CDT
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2nd Practice Quick Thoughts
The starters on D tonight were:
DL: Melton, Miller, Houston, and Rak
LB: Kindle, Bobino, Muck
CBs: Beasley and Palmer
Safeties: Earl Thomas and Ben Wells.
In nickel situations Christian Scott went to safety and ET covered the slot reciever.
I mentioned yesterday that I thought Wells was good. Looks like the coaches agreee, since they had him on the first team.
Earl Thomas….what can I say? He had a badass diving interception tonight. I give him an 50% chance to be our next Thorpe award winner. It would be 100, but Beasley might get there first. Anyways, he’s only a RS Frosh and he is already starting to ball hawk.
If the above guys were to be our starting D on Aug 30, I would feel really good. The only concern is that the 2ndary, save Palmer, are young and kinda skinny. When Vondrell and Fozzy Bear got to the 2nd level, the kids took some punishment.
Offense: The passing game may be a concern. Colt kept throwing five yard passes to whomever was standing in front of him. I had flashbacks to the 4 pick game vs KSU. He also got called for sacks twice during the 7on7 drills b/c he held the ball too long. Chiles threw 2 picks, but he seemed to want to get the ball down the field. He threw a little high and a little behind sometimes.
It might be that our DBs are really good, the WRs are not stepping up, the QBs are not doing a good job, or a combination of all three. Either way, they really need to get after it.
Running game looked very nice. OL was out there to kick ass. Fozzy Bear had another breakaway TD. The run game included multiple misdirection plays with Chiles as a runner or a decoy. Kindle lit up some poor RB up on a stretch play and forced a fumble.
Last thing. I got an up close and personal view of Malcolm Williams one-on-one with Beasley for a few plays. On the first, Malcolm beat Beas and had a couple of steps on an inside seam route that would’ve been a touchdown, except Colt was busy throwing a 3 yard out to the opposite side. On the next, Beasley made a great play on a pass intended for Malcolm and broke it up.
by DogTown on
Aug 7, 2008 10:39 PM CDT
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Badass
I missed tonight’s practice, but I heard Thomas was a beast, as well as Kindle and Acho.
I love Kindle and Acho. Fozzy’s TD run sounded like pure quickness and excellent blocking. LOVE THAT.
I heard Malcolm Williams had a great day today. Got a nice amount of YAKs.
Huey should start ahead of Tanner. Bottom line, Huey is a future NFL player from what people are saying. Tanner is a vet, but we need to play our best if we wanna win some games this year.
by texasfan05 on
Aug 7, 2008 11:05 PM CDT
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YAKs
Yards After Katch – one of my favorite statistics.
by billyzane on
Aug 8, 2008 11:12 AM CDT
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When I was young...
... I always wondered if it would be feasible to adopt a small YAC from Tibet. Do they eat snow or something? Geez.
by Horn Brain on
Aug 8, 2008 11:50 AM CDT
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I saw a definite difference between Colt and JC this evening
I moved to the straight down the field view on 11-on-11 to see if they’d look me off. That is, if I was the safety, would they telegraph the pass.
Colt is definitely much better in this respect, seldom locking in except on the short, quick routes. The best he did was the pass down the middle that Cosby caught on his fingertips at the goal line; Colt had looked to the right sideline before coming back. Really a nice piece of work and in general he seemed to show growth in that department.
JC was working hard just to get completions. It should be pointed out he was a busy player taking rotations at QB and at receiver and/or dual-QB package. But he does have the physique and walk of a sprinter; he reminded me of Ramonce when he first came up.
Both of McGee’s TD runs up the middle had great blocking; one was a hole that had everyone gasping it was so wide open. Fozzy is going to be something; he had to work for his.
There was a really fine INT by Curtis Brown (11-on-11), where he played the receiver deep on the right sideline (heading north) and then walled him off for the interception when the ball was a little inside the mark. Those DBs are gonna be ball hawks; you can already see that. Good sign.
For a little speculation, these four players were the only ones working blocking drills for punts or XPts: Curtis Brown, Ben Wells, Ishie, Blake Gideon and Muckelroy. These were simple drills about hand placement and watching the ball as it came of the foot (stationary kicker, not hard). Pressure on the kicker game hasn’t been a definitive part of special teams in a couple of years. Hope it’s coming back.
Last, Quan and Shipley didn’t miss a ball that was catchable. I may have missed some, but not much. The big difference between them and the younger receivers was consistency and, boy, they set a hell of a standard for the younger guys. That’s a piece of leadership that is important.
Aaron Lewis was the only one I saw dancing much. He is irrepressible.
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Aug 7, 2008 11:11 PM CDT
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