Jim Tressel, meet Mack
As I watched Ohio State get blasted right out of the state of California, I shook my head in disgust. I think the vast majority of football fans, outside of the Midwest, knew the Buckeyes had no chance to win this game. Not after their poor showing the week before against Ohio and after losing Beanie Wells. However, while it was not a surprise, it was still disappointing to watch. The Buckeyes, after some early success, crumbled and allowed the Trojans to simply embarrass them. Ohio State looked uptight, desperate, and above all, they looked like they weren't sure they belonged on the same field as USC.
Tressel used to have a big-game reputation, but after that spanking courtesy of Florida, Ohio State has gone quickly down the drain as far as reputation is concerned, and they're taking the rest of the Big 10 with them. And honestly, this type of shadow that is currently hovering over Ohio State should be very familiar to Longhorn fans. After all, it was not too long ago where we lost five straight to Oklahoma, a couple of them blowouts. It was not too long ago that Mack showed a complete inability to get our team ready for the "big" games.
I am not so much concentrating on OSU as I am making a comparison. After all, while I grant that USC was simply a better team, there's no reason that game should have been 35-3. Also granting that I truly believe that both Florida and LSU were better than Ohio State the last two years, that doesn't mean that those games should have been so one-sided as well (the LSU score is misleading; for those who watched the game, LSU pretty much did what they wanted after the first quarter). Likewise, while I will admit that Oklahoma simply had better teams than us when they blew us out, 65-13 scores and 63-14 scores are totally inexcusable. This shows a lack of confidence, preparation, and resolve that starts from the top.
Tressel must get his team back on track, to convince them that they are good enough to compete with the big boys. Mack needs to make sure we never go back to those days. When the VY magic descended upon Texas, when he helped bring out a culture change in Mack and the program, we felt the uptight, scared-of-your-own shadow days were long gone. We continued to feel that way even after our coaches screwed up the Ohio State game in '06 because we beat Oklahoma and were still on track towards the national title game. However, we dropped two straight, and while that largely has to do with Colt getting hurt, we still were better than both teams and choked the games away. We flopped last year against K-state and lost to a bad Aggie team AGAIN. The resounding bowl win helped ease the fears, but I know that I and many fans still have a little concern that we'll revert back to those days where we felt like we had to prove even to ourselves that we could play against OU and the like.
This season will feature as many big conference games as we've had in recent memory. Going to Colorado will not be easy, and then we get OU and Mizzou right after. We go to Lubbock and Lawrence, and Oklahoma State always seems to be a wild game. This is a young team, and while they should be taught not be arrogant, we should allow, and even encourage, youthful and brash confidence: They need to believe that they are good enough to play with anyone. They need to be unafraid to take the field against the mighty Sooners or the high-flying Tigers. Just like when VY showed no fear in the face of the juggernaut USC, we need our leaders, both coaches and veteran players, to instill the confidence needed to win these games. Some games in the past against OU, I really felt like we lost the game well before we even took the field.
Because of our youth and inexperience, many experts will be counting us out. Our young guys just need to be, well, young... in the sense that they don't know any better than to believe that they will come out and put the hurt on anyone. Again, I'm not advocating stupid overconfidence; they should be taught to respect their opponents. However, believing you can win is the first step to actually doing it.
I don't want to look like how Ohio State has looked against Florida, LSU, and now USC. Ohio State has some good football players that have looked awful on the big stage. We also have good football players. Let's make sure they SHINE on the big stage, Mack, because with this Big 12, it looks like the lights will be bright week in and week out.
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Buckeye Criticism Way Overstated and Unfair
First of all, lets dissect the OSU program under Tressel:
1. They have completely destroyed their main rival and dominated them so much on the football field and in the living room that they have gone from a national power to a team that struggles against division 2 programs like Appalachian St and Notre Dame.
2. They have won 1 MNC and have participated into 2 others. Only USC can boast better in that time period.
3. They have won like 7 Big Ten Championships under Trussel. Something us Texas fans would just cream ourselves over.
4. They have accepted some challenges in scheduling – signing 2 year agreements with the Texas Longhorns and USC. A practice that is great for college football and should be applauded at all times.
5. He secured Terrelle Pryor – who will probably deliver a VY type performance to win the 2010 MNC.
On the downside, the Buckeyes have stumbled in some big situations – but even there are mitigating circumstances:
1. Urban Meyer outcoached the Buckeyes – plain and simple. But that Gator team was not Boise State. Tremendous talent that would have waxed alot of teams that night.
2. The loss to LSU was a case where the Buckeyes were not expected to compete, and truly did not have the talent to compete. Trussel focused the team, and they earned a premature trip to the MNC. USC was better, but they unbelievably stumbled at Stanford. WVU was better but they got beat by Pitt. Mizzou was destined before getting Stooped. So why criticize the inferior team that beat the teams they were supposed to beat.
3. USC at home was a significant challenge. I just do not think that criticizing teams for scheduling on USC on the road instead of a “weather vane university” is the right approach.
So – unless you are USC – I just don’t think you can match OSU dominance.
by realmccoy on Sep 16, 2008 4:51 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I did not overstate anything
In fact, I think you simply read way too much into what I wrote.
I have already pointed out that Ohio State has great players and a great football team. That is exactly part of my point: They are a team that should not be blown out in these games, yet they have been. I drew the comparison to Texas’ struggles against Oklahoma; we’ve been blown out in that series a few times the last decade, but there is no good reason for that. OU was better, but not to the tune of 63-14.
1. They have completely destroyed their main rival and dominated them so much on the football field and in the living room that they have gone from a national power to a team that struggles against division 2 programs like Appalachian St and Notre Dame.
This is irrelevant to my discussion. I have already stated they have dominated the Big 10, which obviously includes Michigan. Given the current reputation of the Big 10, earned or not, nobody is really impressed by this. And you are way overstating the case of OSU’s dominance; it’s a far leap of logic to say that Michigan struggled last year and the beginning of this year due to the fact they’ve been losing to Ohio State.
2. They have won 1 MNC and have participated into 2 others. Only USC can boast better in that time period.
Again, irrelevant. Their national title happened in 2002, which obviously does not include the time period of the last three years when they’ve been toasted in big, out of conference games (not to mention the fact that many people consider that Buckeye team to be the flukiest champion in the BCS era). The two others are simply part of my overall point: They dominate their conference, then show up to the national title game to be embarrassed in front of the country. On an additional note, it is actually NOT USC who can boast about three BCS title appearances. The other two teams to do so are Florida State and Oklahoma.
3. They have won like 7 Big Ten Championships under Trussel. Something us Texas fans would just cream ourselves over.
Exactly part my point. You do realize I said this: “Ohio State has gone quickly down the drain as far as reputation is concerned, and they’re taking the rest of the Big 10 with them.” Obviously, that’s because they are A. Dominating the Big 10 but B. Haven’t shown up to their last few big, non-conference games. In any case, this is again irrelevant; the point of my post is not to dissect Ohio State’s struggles but to draw the comparison to Texas’ past struggles in big games. If we want big things this year, and especially next year, we would do well to learn the lessons of the past as well as the lessons of our contemporaries.
4. They have accepted some challenges in scheduling – signing 2 year agreements with the Texas Longhorns and USC. A practice that is great for college football and should be applauded at all times.
I agree. But again I ask: How is this relevant to my post?
5. He secured Terrelle Pryor – who will probably deliver a VY type performance to win the 2010 MNC.
Perhaps so, and props to them for getting Pryor. Yet again I will ask: How is this relevant?
1. Urban Meyer outcoached the Buckeyes – plain and simple. But that Gator team was not Boise State. Tremendous talent that would have waxed alot of teams that night.
Agreed, but not a good excuse. This was exactly something I wanted to address: I don’t want Mack Brown to get out-coached like that by the likes of Bob Stoops again. Tressel had just as much time as Meyer to get ready for that game, and the Gators came out and flattened an Ohio State team with a lot of good athletes. It’s hardly a good excuse to say that Meyer simply outwitted the sweater vest.
2. The loss to LSU was a case where the Buckeyes were not expected to compete, and truly did not have the talent to compete. Trussel focused the team, and they earned a premature trip to the MNC. USC was better, but they unbelievably stumbled at Stanford. WVU was better but they got beat by Pitt. Mizzou was destined before getting Stooped. So why criticize the inferior team that beat the teams they were supposed to beat.
Again, a poor excuse, and this is exactly what I’m talking about. Obviously, LSU was better. I said so above in my post. That doesn’t mean Ohio State, if they are truly as good as they want everyone to believe and if they want everyone to be impressed by their Big 10 championships, can show up like that and get trounced. After all, they DID start out well, yet they crumbled to the ground afterwards. What, are we going to say that Miles outcoached Tressel as another excuse? These are precisely the excuses I don’t to hear. If the other team is better, than let’s fight to the bitter end. If not, let’s not get the pants coached out of us.
3. USC at home was a significant challenge. I just do not think that criticizing teams for scheduling on USC on the road instead of a "weather vane university" is the right approach.
I fail to see where I criticized Ohio State for scheduling USC. I think that’s great, and I wish more teams would do it. I merely pointed out how, once again, Ohio State flopped against a high profile OOC opponent, and this time I clearly saw doubt in the eyes of the Buckeyes. They weren’t even sure they belonged on the field with the Trojans, and that’s not what I want to see happen in our group.
You simply missed the entire point of my post, which was clearly stated to not concentrate on Ohio State but to compare their recent big-game struggles with our past ones. Please read more carefully.
by TheElusiveShadow on Sep 16, 2008 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Hey now!
2010 MNC is ours and colt’s to lose.
In Mack Brown We Trust!
you dumbass
Colt will win it in 2009!
In Mack Brown We Trust!
Herschel Walker?...nt whills
proud to swim home
by learned hand on Sep 17, 2008 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Good Post, IMO.
That’s been my main worry this season. People talk about the defense giving up too many yards in the first two games, but I think that will figure itself out as the back 7 get older and more experienced.
My main concern is our game-plan and execution in conference play. We laid a big time egg against Arkansas State, Kansas State, Oklahoma State, Texas A&M, and Nebraska last year. Sure we won 4 of those 5 games and a lot of the struggles had to do with the defense. But our offense just could not find any sort of rhythm in those games. Against OK State and Nebraska it took until the 4th quarter to realize that Jamaal Charles was our most dangerous weapon.
People will probably tell me that we’ve blown out FAU and UTEP, but I’m still not convinced. Sure we obliterate teams like FAU, North Texas, and Rice. But I have not seen enough sustained evidence that we can keep that caliber of offensive play against more quality opponents. That’s not to say that I think our offense will go down the tubes this year, I think it most undoubtedly will be great. But as of NOW, I see no reason to feel safe about it. We still have a lot to prove on that end.
My adopted son Sergio Kindle does not sleep; he waits.
Absolutely..
we did win 3 of those 5. But frankly, we don’t know if we have a Jamaal Charles to save us in the 4th quarter of OK State and Nebraska. I’m all for the bottom line. But if we play like we played in those games against this year’s schedule, it won’t be pretty.
I’m not saying we will play like that or that I predict it happening. But just pointing out that our offense needs to show significant improvement from last year’s to get it done.
My adopted son Sergio Kindle does not sleep; he waits.

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