Article claiming 2006 Rose Bowl Not Greatest Ever
by ScottS on Sep 24, 2008 12:35 AM CDT
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Found this article on Sports Illustrated's web site yesterday in the On Campus section. I don't have a huge problem with the author saying the 2006 Rose Bowl is not the greatest game ever, as that is certainly a very subjective topic, but something about this article rubs me the wrong way. Perhaps I am reading too much into the author's words. Thought I would throw this out there for discussion.
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MSM at it again
The writer sounded like he just wanted to pick apart a football game. He made no true stance on what he believed to be the best game ever and attempt to break down both games and compare the two (what I would have done to make my point). He also continued the fellating of USC and gives Texas a mere passing sentence or two.
He also, didn’t take into account that Pete Carroll is probably the best game planner in college football, ever, especially with over a month to prepare for the game.
Nope, the article pretty much summed up why he wrote it in the beginning, to knock on VY because he’s not having a good year in the NFL.
The author
is certainly entitled to his opinion as are those of us who do consider that the college game ever played. He makes fair and accurate points throughout the article, but the last sentence is what got me. “Remember: Just because college football fans think it’s true, doesn’t mean it is.” Oh, so my opinion (along with thousands of others) that the UT/USC game was the greatest game is wrong and his is right just because he writes an online column for a national magazine? I didn’t realize that’s how things worked now. I love it when writers confuse their opinion with fact.
“Remember: Just because obsure sports writers think it’s true, doesn’t mean it is.”
by longhorn543 on Sep 24, 2008 7:31 AM CDT reply actions 3 recs
i hate
these kinds of articles.
He mentions Nebraska in there twice, the 1984 Orange Bowl “Go For Two” 31-30 loss to Miami and the greatest game ever played ever by anyone ever the 1971 Oklahoma-Nebraska game. It gets better as the years go on because that’s how ‘legend’ works. Both great games. 2006 Rose Bowl? Great game.
My problem is that in order to prove his point he goes about tearing it down instead of doing more in building others up. Don’t we get enough of that kind of crap in an election year as it is?
Lacking great plays? I don’t know what the final Vince Young play was if not great. Perhaps Young is a victim of his own playmaking, because it seemed like so many other Vince Young plays in how effortless it appeared.
You’re right about the last line. It speaks volumes of insecurity, of looking really hard for a pow-zing ending and then deciding to go for cocky.
Go Big Red Nebraska!
Our Cobs Are Bigger Than Yours!
Corn Nation!
by Jon Johnston on Sep 24, 2008 8:13 AM CDT reply actions 3 recs
Keith Jackson
Along these lines, did anyone watch the USC/Virginia game? For some reason the announcers had Keith Jackson on the phone at some point during the game, and asked him if the UT/USC game was the best game he’s ever called. He said no, it was not. It was his reasoning that really pissed me off, not that he doesn’t consider it the best game he’s ever seen. Basically he said that USC gave the game to Texas via the Bush lateral, interception, and inability to stop VY; that USC’s mistakes, rather than a good UT team, that determined the outcome of the game. He sounded like he had been waiting to answer this question for a while. I don’t know if his comments struck anyone else this way, but it seemed a little backhanded at the time. BTW: let’s hang 70 on Arkansas.
Keith Jackson..
..is a senile old man..that’s why he hung it up…lol
by vy til i die on Sep 24, 2008 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions
the great thing
about the past is that it becomes more romantic the further away it gets.
As a third party observer, I’d agree somewhat with Jackson about the mistakes. He’s a Pac -10 guy, remember, so he’s not really going to know whether or not Texas was a great team relative to all the other teams out there.
The Bush failed literal does remain as the stupidest move by any star player in a national title game ever, doesn’t it?
Go Big Red Nebraska!
Our Cobs Are Bigger Than Yours!
Corn Nation!
by Jon Johnston on Sep 24, 2008 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions
Not long ago I read an article where Jackson was furious about
the VY pitch to Selvin for a TD where his knee was down but the review team blew it. He is trying to campaign against the greatness of that game out of pure bias.
yeah...
I hate when that point is brought up. People forget that although the call was wrong, the refs also messed up the Kelson INT. So I say it’s a wash.
by vy til i die on Sep 24, 2008 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Who the F is Phil Guidry?
His contact email is a gmail account! Pass.
by jc25 on Sep 24, 2008 8:32 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
so witty
That writer’s a million-dollar talent. Seriously, how witty is he? He quotes Lee Corso, and attributes it to similar-looking Mel Brooks. How clever! Next thing you know, he’ll be writing about Ricardo Montalban popping up from behind the ESPN GameDay desk with a mascot head on his shoulders.
As for his reasoning, well, there doesn’t seem to be much. There were great plays all over the place, attempts at great plays that went sour because of either excessive attempts at heroism by the attempters or amazing attempts at heroism by the attemptees, and guys who rubbed dirt on their wounds and went back to tearing people up. I thought that was an incredible game.
You know, it’s okay if a doofus says it’s not the greatest game ever. I’d just like him to actually hang his balls out there and say which one is. At least Keith Jackson did that.
And anyway, what effing relevance is a player’s subsequent NFL career to how good a COLLEGE football game was?
by burntorangehorn on Sep 24, 2008 9:20 AM CDT reply actions
not to mention...
that kosar and flutie took a while to ‘come good’ in the NFL. and i’d argue against that anyway.
so many lame points in his article. many of his other noteable games weren’t even for the title…
According to this guy
The 3-2 Mississippi State-Auburn game was by far the best game ever.
Horizontalism is its own reward.
by bendj on Sep 24, 2008 10:47 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
"Infamous" 4th and 2 stop?
Did anyone catch that in his article? Sounds a little biased to me……
This is what I emailed SI
Remember
…just because sportswriters think it’s true, doesn’t mean it is (so I will refrain from trying to avalanche you with other sportswriters who, due to their undoubtedly lower football I.Q. than yours, believe the 2006 Rose Bowl to be the greatest).
I’m not going to argue what game was the greatest ever; while most college football viewers can agree about what group of games deserve special recognition, it is tough, if not impossible, to label on the “greatest.” Of course, that makes your whole article a laughable waste of space. Nonetheless, I’m just going to point how pitiful your arguments were in trying to bust this perceived “myth.”
I’m amazed that you think the game didn’t have great moments. So the 4th and 2 stop isn’t a great play? Are you sure it won’t live on in history? VY’s 8 yard winning TD run? Michael Griffin’s interception? Reggie Bush’s ill-conceived lateral? Hmmm. Maybe your definition of “great plays” or “memorable plays” is different than my own… and since it is different, I’ll just label it a myth. Sound cool?
By the way, the reason Vince’s touchdown looked so easy was because that’s the way he runs: effortlessly. Regardless of how his NFL career turns out, he will remain one of the all time greats in college football. If you think there’s a lot of quarterbacks out there in college football who could stroll so easily to the corner of the endzone like that, you’re mistaken. And by the way, there’s a reason the Trojans were afraid of the pass: Vince was the highest rated passer for the majority of the season (3rd at the end of the bowl games, I believe) and completed 30 of 40 passes. That’s called keeping the defense honest.
And just because Keith Jackson says so, it’s true? Bless his heart, he’s old and senile, but come on, he’s a Pac-10 dude. Of course he’s not going to consider it the greatest when the Trojans lose. Furthermore, what missed calls? Every game has missed calls, and even objective Trojan fans admit that the blown call about Vince’s knee ultimately didn’t matter, since Texas would have had a first and 10 and USC’s 11 anyway. Only an idiot or an old man who has lost it will think that games don’t feature mistakes on both sides as well as officiating errors.
Let’s talk briefly about Boise St.:
So, you’re going to mention a game in which an OU team that backed into the Big 12 title game basically because Colt McCoy went down against K-state and had a rusty and still-injured Adrian Peterson? This was far from one of Bob Stoop’s best teams, and yet, Boise St. needed ridiculous trick plays that work once in a blue moon to win… by one point in overtime. The Horns and Trojans were #1 and #2 the whole season and had a genuine slugfest in the national title game. Yes, the offenses shredded the defenses in the fourth quarter, but these were two of the greatest offenses ever, and they were held to a 16-10 score at halftime and both scored well below their season average. Hmmm. Again, your definition of greatness seems to just be “mythical.”
Do you know what “mythbusting” means? It means you take a wildly held belief and give solid evidence and arguments as to why it is not… preferably by showing precisely the contrary. That’s why when the real Mythbusters test explosions and stunts that Hollywood does, they do indeed properly bust or confirm these “myths.” Whatever you’re doing is not mythbusting; it’s just writing your contrary opinion (which is a poorly argued one, I might add) and trying to pass it off as some revelatory truth. If you think the 2006 Rose Bowl is not the greatest, that’s fine. It hardly makes it a “myth” that others think so, and frankly, they could argue that case a lot better than what you just did.
That’s ok; not every article will be a good one. Try again.
Sigh. Idiot.
by TheElusiveShadow on Sep 24, 2008 2:47 PM CDT reply actions 5 recs
You all miss the point.
Th point of “writers” like this is not to produce a thought provoking, well argued, well reseached piece of editorial journalism. No the point is to drive traffic to the site, increasing “hits”. I would argue he could have made his task a lot easier by simply using the following title:
Tim Tebow merely adequate or Nick Saban (or Bobby Petrino) Most Loyal coach or Mark May, genius. Then rather than write 1300 words he could just write “boobies” 1300 times.
if that's
the point of modern day mass media writing then those guys need to get the hell out of here because they’re not needed anymore.
Go Big Red Nebraska!
Our Cobs Are Bigger Than Yours!
Corn Nation!
by Jon Johnston on Sep 25, 2008 12:13 AM CDT up reply actions
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