Morning Coffee Welcomes Sergio To Texas, Finally
Savior from the injured list? After Bruce Chambers put to rest on Tuesday any speculation about moving a player from defense to offense to play tight end, Longhorn fans thirsty for a pass-catching tight end have shifted their interest to Ian Harris, out since early in fall practice with a strained neck. Mack Brown also said on Wednesday that Harris may be able to play for the first time this season on Saturday after resuming practice Tuesday. With Josh Marshall probably done for the season, Harris is the most likely player to stretch the field from the tight end position. Several questions surround him, however, including how much he will be able to play, if he has anything close to the rapport with Colt McCoy that Blaine Irby was developing, and how much the coaches are willing to play him instead of lumbering giants like Peter Ullman and Greg Smith.
The quarterback is his prey. It appears that Will Muschamp has unleashed the beast. After two nondescript years at Texas, Sergio Kindle has finally arrived. Note: Kindle was never an afterthought to Longhorn fans. Begin rant. In fact, he was at the forefront of their minds when speculating about why the defense was underachieving. They just wanted the real Sergio Kindle to stand up. End rant. To take advantage of his pass rushing skills, Muschamp has reduced Kindle's coverage responsibilities and lined him up as a defensive end in the nickel package. Kindle's former coach has a great quote about his abilities, "Thoroughbreds don't go backwards." If Kindle struggles in coverage, then don't drop him back into coverage. Use another linebacker to do that who doesn't have so much value as a pass rusher. Kudos to Muschamp for fulfilling his promise to put the best players on the field and use them appropriately. The result? In the second half, Rice often had to keep a running back in the backfield for protection. What an advantage a defensive player can provide when the offense has to start scheming for them and diverting their resources.
Ode to correct measurements. Good article up over at Inside Texas that takes a look at how Muschamp tracks his defense. Instead of keeping stats like the NCAA, he explains how the Longhorn defensive coaches do it:
We do it like the NFL does it. When a quarterback drops back, and then he scrambles for 23 yards, that's in the passing stat. That's a passing game breakdown. The NCAA counts that as a run, but that's not a deficiency in the running game. That's a deficiency in the passing game. It's the same thing when the quarterback drops back to throw and you sack him for 18 yards (because) that's a positive in the passing game. It has nothing to do with running the football. Technically, the Rice quarterbacks dropped back 62 times Saturday, but the stats don't show that.
I like what Muschamp is saying--it's strange that the NCAA counts sacks against running plays, as Muschamp points out, it's a passing play. He goes on to talk about simplifying pass rush moves and not trying to get around the tackles on the edge, but rather to beat the blocker to a spot, and then "convert speed to power." Not often do coaches really get into the fundamentals of playing a position, but those quotes from Muschamp are golden.
Stop the hand-wringing. It's time to stop worrying about the passing yards the defense gives up. Yeah, it used to look bad to give up 300-yard passing games. But as Mack Brown said in his presser on Monday, it happens all the time now. What do you expect to happen when you only give up 17 rushing yards? It's difficult to hold even an average spread team like Rice to barely over 200 yards of total offense. Throw out all the passing stats and re-prioritize the important defensive numbers. In that vein, Will Muschamp is emphasizing yards per pass attempt (6.18), third-down efficiency (68%), and scoring defense (11, 11th in the country). It's the classic bend-but-don't-break strategy. And it makes sense. After being repeatedly gouged by big plays last season, the defense can see immense improvement by just cutting down on those killer big plays. It's all about the secondary keeping everything in front of them and the front four providing the pressure, which they did successfully to the tune of seven sacks against Rice, six in the second half after Muschamp told the defensive tackles to stop worrying about gap responsibilities and get to the quarterback.
Even Mr. Moneybags can take a hit. Even the seemingly limitless deep pockets of T. Boone Pickens have taken a hit with the recent economic woes. And that's bad news for the OSU athletic department, which has benefited greatly in recent years because of its wealthy benefactor. However, with reports that Pickens has lost $1 billion this year, the plans to construct an indoor practice facility have been put on hold, although renovations of the football stadium will continue. It will be interesting to see if the facility upgrades have an influence on recruiting at Oklahoma State, because after all, they do have a coach who is 41 and a man. I can't imagine it will make that much difference, although OU has overcome the fact it's in Norman to lure top athletes. Almost incomprehensible when you look at it that way, huh? Viva Austin!
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Mack on Jim Rome
pretty sure I heard Rome say yesterday that Mack Brown would be on the show today… should be entertaining.
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Defense
It’s time to stop worrying about the passing yards the defense gives up. Yeah, it used to look bad to give up 300-yard passing games. But as Mack Brown said in his presser on Monday, it happens all the time now.
The problem with this statement is that there are 103 teams that are giving up less yards/game than us (and alot of those teams haven’t played a schedule so far completely made up of nonBCS teams). In almost every passing defense statistical category we are similar to where we were after 3 games last year.
We are doing a much better job of keeping points off of the board, which is of course the object. But you can’t point to the yards per game and see any improvement or just write it off to everyone giving up those kinds of yards when you are in the bottom 15%.
Not saying we aren’t improved on defense and that we won’t get better. But this is clearly coach-speak for “please ignore the problem”. Put it in the same category as the coaches not being concerned about the lack of production from the RB’s.
Passing attempts?
While the defense may rank 103rd in yards/game, I wonder how many teams have played opponents who have thrown the ball as many times as FAU, UTEP and Rice.
by Misterserious7 on Sep 25, 2008 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions
The answer is not many
Fair point. Unfortunately we are giving up (slightly) more yards per attempt this year than we did at this point last year – which I think we would all agree was a terrible pass defense. We are currently 52nd in the country in this category (last year we finished 64th).
The other discouraging sign is that our pass defense hasn’t done significantly better against the the teams we’ve played that their other opponents. FAU/UTEP/Rice’s average offensive ranking is – passing offense 48th, total offense 66th. We are 104th against the pass (much worse) and 58th in total defense (a little better).
by Horncasting on Sep 25, 2008 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions
yards/points
We may be giving up yards, but are giving up less points. The points should be the only stat a defense looks at, because its the only thing that matters.
by Longhorns84 on Sep 25, 2008 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions
103 teams
have they played good passing teams?
by Longhorns84 on Sep 25, 2008 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions
UTEP is not a good passing team
83rd nationally. FAU is 49th.
Rice is good (14th).
by Horncasting on Sep 25, 2008 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions
FAU
play Michigan State in a rain storm, and they couldn’t throw the ball at all. So, they really hurt the stats.
The teams can’t run, so they have to pass all the time. I’m going to have to agrre with Mack on this one
by Longhorns84 on Sep 25, 2008 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Good points
It is really hard to know how good the horns are on D so far because the schedule is so weak. I think the LBs are better, the DL is fine, and the secondary has a ways to go but I can’t prove it. We will learn a whole lot about this team in the next 3 games. I think the Arkansas and Colorado games are going to be mch tougher than UT fans expect.
Like every year
We really wont know how good we are until October.
All we can say is that if we are playing a weak SOS, then we had better damned well have a good Scoring Defense rank, which we do.
Basically we dont know anything yet. Like you say, we knew the secondary would have growing pains, and they obviously have. What remains to be seen, is if they will continue to improve into October, when we need them to make plays the most.
by BoddickerIsClutch on Sep 25, 2008 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Thanks for the heads up
I count 12 comments you’ve made where all you do is say you agree in the subject and have no content beyond that. Additionally, there are several more where the content is just a restatement of the post you agree with. Why do you think telling everyone you agree with a comment is useful or contributes in any way? There is a recommend function which allows you to state that without spamming the comments section, and draws attention to the statements you agree with. Give it a shot and see if that tickles your fancy.
you mean...
this isn’t a race to see who can amass the most comments on this site?
Every year?
Or every year we didn’t play Ohio St?
I would also say we knew what was coming the years we lost to Stanford, North Carolina, and Arkansas in September.
Your linked article...
clearly said that one of T.Boone Pickens’ hedge funds has lost $1billion. You then claim that he lost the $1billion personally. Not the case.
--- All roads to the Big-XII Championship lead through OU/RRS. It's not just another game! We're all about championships here. ---
Good catch
only 265 million of his own money in those funds. For a man worth 4 billion that is not too big of a hit, plus Mesa got Texas to invest in the infrastructure they need to make big money on their wind farms in the panhandle, so I would not count on T Boone being strapped for cash.
Agreed Horncasint
When the team is playing a SOS of #149, you can’t be overly excited about placing #11 in scoring defense. We’re giving up so many yards! We’ve played 3 (soon to be 4) pathetic teams and we don’t know how we’re pregressing on defense. My pre-season concerns about the youth and inexperience of our D-Backfield have showed themselves accurate.
I’m not blowing the panic whistle, as I had mediocre expectations for the season. Like Peter, my main criteria for success was to find all our starters for 2009, develop their play and implement all of what we might need for the 2009 season. Now, if all the banter of Muschamp staying for a single season is true, then that would be painful.
--- All roads to the Big-XII Championship lead through OU/RRS. It's not just another game! We're all about championships here. ---
SOS
Texas has one of the toughest conference SOS, so it wouldn’t make sense to load up the non-conference SOS.
Texas could be like USC and play 1 ranked team all year(ohio state), and listen to everyone tell them how great they are!
by Longhorns84 on Sep 25, 2008 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions
What exactly....
does USC’s SOS have to do with our ability to assess the improvement of our defense? Hmmmmm?
Oh, by the way.
#1.USC – Ohio State, Virginia
#2.OU – Cincinnati, TCU
#3.Georgia – Arizona State, GaTech
#4.Florida – Miami(FL), Florida State
#5.LSU – patsies
#6.Missouri – Illinois
#8.Alabama – Clemson
#7 Texas – Alphabet soup (FAU & UTEP) and Rice-a-Roni
--- All roads to the Big-XII Championship lead through OU/RRS. It's not just another game! We're all about championships here. ---
Dont forget
the second best football program in the state of Arkansas, although the Central Arkansas Bears are 4 and 0.
A sack is an inadvertent running play, but a running play nonetheless
I like what Muschamp is saying—it’s strange that the NCAA counts sacks against running plays, as Muschamp points out, it’s a passing play.
While I agree with Muschamp in principle and think it makes sense for him to chart the results of plays that way for purposes of determining how his defense is performing, there is a common sense reason why sacks are treated as running plays.
It’s not a pass play because he didn’t throw the ball. He wanted to throw the ball, but he couldn’t. It’s a running play because the quarterback was the ball carrier. He didn’t want to be a ball carrier, but, because he didn’t get the pass off, he was.
Intentions aren’t really the issue. If the quarterback throws a backward pass to the running back out in the flat and the defense drills the running back behind the line as soon as he catches the ball, we may never know whether the play was intended to be a run with a long handoff or a halfback pass. If the pocket collapses and the quarterback who dropped back to pass pulls the ball down and runs, evading tacklers to pick up positive yardage, he is credited with rushing yards, even though his goal was to the throw the ball.
There are too many scenarios to worry about judgment calls and unspoken intentions; that’s why the N.C.A.A. is right to treat sacks like what they are, even though Coach Muschamp is equally correct to evaluate his defense according to how effectively it stops the other team from doing what it wants to do.
Go 'Dawgs!
not the point
the point is that from a coaching perspective the standard NCAA statistics don’t provide a coach with meaningful information. The NFL is filled with tons of great defensive minds, so there’s probably a good reason for Muchamp to follow the NFL’s logic. Remember that defensive technique is for most positions is fundamentally different in passing and running situations. In addition, some players excel vs the run, and are horrendous vs the pass. Compiling good stats is the only way to properly assess what happened and how to fix it.
For instance, if you see that we’re limiting teams to 100 yards/game on the ground, but don’t factor in that opponents are losing an average of 20 yds/game due to sacks then you could draw the wrong conclusion about the run defense. Runnings plays are actually gaining 120 yds, and more than likely a higher yard/carry average. So what an unsuspecting coach may not realize is that if an opponent has excellent pass protection—-thus limiting your ability to sack them——they’ll exploit the unknown weakness in his run defense. That seems counter-intuitive and good statistics should make things easier to diagnose, not more difficult.
Conversely, if your pass defense gives up 200 yds but allowed the QB to scramble for another 75 yds, counter to what many would think you in fact do have a problem with pass defense, not necessarily run defense. While yards/attempt could be low, yards/passing play could be much higher due to additional yards the QB is picking up by scrambling.
Coaches are trying to nail down is how does the defense perform in a “passing” situation vs a “running” situation in order to diagnose where the defense’s weaknesses are. So in the example above, a defense that allows 200 yds through the air but allows a QB to scramble another 75 yards is not being effective in containing the QB. In that case, coaches know they need to preach containing the QB and not over-pursuing. In addition, if the solution allows opponents to increase to 220 yards/game but eliminates the QB’s yards on the ground that may translate to fewer points allowed because the defense is allowing less positive yards out of a broken pass play.
by BMG on Sep 25, 2008 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
to be clear
its pointless for the NCAA to compile stats that don’t paint an accurate picture of performance. The NFL’s stats are not biased and give coaches and fans a better understanding of their team.
Problem I have with the NCAA treatment of sacks
Is that is is not consistent. If you tackle the QB on a passing play (whether he is scramling or not), it is counted as a sack. If you tackle the QB on a designed running play for the QB, it is not counted as a sack. So they are already differentiating between tackling the QB on a passing play vs. a designed running play, but in both instances the lost yardage is counted against the rushing total.
The NCAA's
long-standing explanation for doing rush/pass stats the way it does is that in old-school offenses, the QB often rolled out to pass and the person keeping stats had to decide, if the QB was tackled, whether the play was supposed to be a pass or a run. So they just made it a run.
And yet the person keeping the stats
still has to decide if it is a running or passing play when choosing between crediting a sack or a TFL.
Record book
The NFL probably keeps the stat this way in order to preserve the integrity of the record book. Change the formula and you have to go back and refigure everything.
Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.
Our giving up passing yards
is totally a function of us not giving up rushing yards. Most teams want to run the ball inherently and if they cant do that well (i.e. 17 rushing yards for a game) they have to resort to passing the ball.
Also, the large passing yards is again of function of us having the lead for the entire game. When a team gets behind they have to throw the ball.
These are two reasons why we give up large passing yards- were good at stopping the run and we ahead for the length of the game.
Sergio
I’ve been waiting for this kid to have a breakout season in college since I first started watching him when he was a freshman in high school. He WAS that good in high school and my expectations for him have been higher than anybody else’s I believe.
Plus, I think it’s cool for him and his alma mater in Dallas (Woodrow Wilson High), the only high school in AMerica to produce two Heisman trophy winners
"Excuse me while I whip this out."
excuse my ignorance
but which two players?
by GhostofBigRoy on Sep 25, 2008 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Davey O'Brien and Tim Brown
Google is our friend.
by Jason Mayer on Sep 25, 2008 8:44 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs

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