Postgame React: Texas 52 Arkansas 10
The outcome was: Bacon! Just totally tasty. For the fourth straight game, Texas buried the opposition early, this time with 24 points on its first four drives and 31 by halftime--the 31-3 halftime lead Texas' largest of the season.
| Game | Halftime Score | # of Drives |
Drive Results |
| Florida Atlantic | 28-10 | 5 | TD, TD, Punt, TD, TD |
| UTEP | 24-13 | 5 | Punt, TD, TD, TD, TD |
| Rice | 24-3 | 5 | Fumble, TD, TD, TD, FG |
| Arkansas | 31-3 | 6 | FG, TD, TD, TD, Punt, TD |
The Offensive MVP was: Colt McCoy. He may not be 40, but my God, he is a man. McCoy was perfect once again, on Saturday completing 17 of his 19 pass attempts for 185 yards, including 3 touchdowns and 0 turnovers. Throw in another 84 yards rushing on 9 attempts and 2 more touchdowns and it was the kind of performance that Heisman voters won't be able to ignore. (Though postseason awards just barely register on my radar screen these days, if both Texas and Oklahoma cruise to wins next week, the attention focused on Bradford vs McCoy in Dallas is going to be incredible.)
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Which McCoy play on Saturday was most impressive? The perfect dart to Shipley for Texas' first score or his 35-yard touchdown gallop to put Texas up 24-3? Both were jaw-droppers and exemplified the enormous strides McCoy has made since his up-and-down sophomore campaign. Though we have to remind ourselves of the opponents McCoy has been raking over the coals, there are specific improvements which portend well for the next two years:
- Running with purpose. McCoy did an admirable job rushing the football as a freshman and sophomore, but he was more scrambling to survive than attacking with purpose. So far this year, we're seeing a different kind of rusher, as McCoy runs for yards in a way we hadn't seen before. The free space will likely shrink as the competition increases, but it adds a lot to our offense that McCoy is a legitimate rushing weapon for whom defenses must account.
- Stepping into passes. Not unrelated to McCoy's improved rushing is the way he's stepping into throws this year. In part, it's the same purposefulness from McCoy, but it's also an improvement from the offensive line, which is giving Colt time and space to look downfield and step into the his passes.
- Using the checkdown receiver. McCoy and Greg Davis both said they thought Colt tried to do too much last year. McCoy hasn't stopped trying to make plays, but he's done an outstanding job of checking down to his tight end or tailback when the downfield play isn't available. That was missing from his game a year ago.
All told, these are the kinds of fundamental improvements to McCoy's game that have me revising my outlook for the next two years. I count myself among those who this summer wasn't 100% sure Colt McCoy's ceiling was high enough for Texas to win a national title. That's no longer the case.
The Defensive MVP was: Brian Orakpo and Sergio Kindle. The single most important key to the burtal five-game stretch awaiting Texas is whether or not the 'Horns are able to pressure the quarterback. I just finished watching Oklahoma wax TCU and there's simply no question at all that if Sam Bradford has time to throw, he will find one of his many outstanding receivers (not to mention the terrifying Gresham) open in space. Same goes for Chase Daniel and Graham Harrell.
But if this young Texas defense is and will be a work in progress, Will Muschamp clearly understands he's got to find ways to have his best athletes serve as disruptors. Today, we saw both Orakpo and Kindle making life hard for Casey Dick and Tyler Wilson, and it seems to me their ability to keep the opposition off balance is as important as anything else that happens in our upcoming games.
The offensive Offensive LVP was: Vondrell McGee. Honestly, it feels a little mean-spirited to single out anyone after such a dominant performance, but it's worth noting that McGee again struggled to get his game going, finishing with just 57 yards on 16 carries. The coaches seem eager to have him break through, but after a sluggish start Cody Johnson was given an opportunity to work with the first team. He seized the opportunity, amassing 43 yards rushing on his 9 carries, and as Texas fans and coaches anxiously wait for Fozzy Whittaker to get healthy, the window on McGee may have closed a bit this Saturday.
The offensive Defensive LVP: Deon Beasley and Ryan Palmer. Not that either player particularly killed Texas on Saturday, but on a team where an army of underclassmen are busting their tails to get the job done, these two have been notably subpar to start the year. If Palmer is somewhat excused as someone most of us don't expect all-conference play from anyway, Beasley's lackluster start is a bit maddening. He's much better than he's playing right now, and Texas needs him to amp it up in a big way. Starting now.
John Chiles Watch: 10 carries, 26 yards / 4-4 passing, 28 yards. On the downside, Chiles was hesitant and unimpressive as a runner today; his inability to make a linebacker miss in open space in the 4th quarter was just befuddling. On the bright side, he's clearly made enormous progress as a passer--certainly to the point where he's not missile launching worm-burners our receivers have no chance to catch.
Here's the bottom line: If Chiles is going to be anything less than spectacular as a runner, McCoy's outstanding play somewhat lessens the value of wasting effort trying to get the ball in Chiles' hands. I think John's a better runner than we're seeing from him right now, but if he can't translate it to production on the field, it's not worth bending backwards to get the ball in his hands. Time to step it up, John.
Cerberus Watch: McGee: 16-57-3.0, 0 TD / Ogbonnaya: DNP / Whittaker: DNP. With McGee struggling and both Ogbonnaya and Whittaker out, it was Cody Johnson who provided the spark from the tailback position. Colt McCoy deserves a lot of credit for providing the rushing threat in the non-conference schedule, but I still maintain that one of these four needs to break through if Texas is to compete for the Big 12 title.
Tight End Watch: Ian Harris: 1 reception, 7 yards / Peter Ullman 1 reception 4 yards. Harris is the one to watch, as neither Ullman nor Greg Smith is remotely athletic enough to play the role required by the tight end in Greg Davis' offense.
Colorado Fear Factor: 4 out of 10 (5) is the baseline. (-1) for Colorado's B- passing game; (-1) for Colorado's offensive line and the struggles they'll have with our D-Line; (-1) for Colt McCoy's improvement; (-1) for Jordan Shipley at full health; (+1) for Texas not having sorted out the tailback situation; (+2) for Boulder being among the toughest places to win on the road in college foootball.
Heading into next week I feel: Better Than I Hoped. Texas has more than enough talent to rout Colorado next Saturday, though I remain wary of playing in Boulder on principle. My confidence in Texas' ability to take care of business is entirely related to the improvements in the fundamentals along the offensive line, at quarterback, and in our defensive scheming.
The temptation is to look ahead to Oklahoma and Missouri, who await the Longhorns post-Boulder... That would be a mistake. Good news: I can't see this coaching staff making that mistake.
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On the John Chiles watch ...
…don’t forget the fumble.
Watch out, I bite.
by EddieTheAlbinoSquirrel on Sep 27, 2008 10:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Two Touchdowns in Two Weeks Atrributed to Chiles
Our D deserved to only have 3 points on the board today, even moreso than last week.
Running the offense with Chiles stagnates our fluid offensive game, and, in the past few weeks, has opened us up to turnovers as well.
by BoddickerIsClutch on Sep 27, 2008 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the offensive Offensive LVP player is
Chiles. In the last two weeks he has handed over both of the turnovers that lead to the other teams ON:Y touchdowns. Chiles was the opponents MVP the last two games.
I like long walks, especially when they are taken by people who annoy me.
~Fred Allen
by Hook'em13 on Sep 28, 2008 12:59 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Og
I think he did play, just didn’t carry the ball. If memory serves correct he played as the third down and short yardage back, we just didn’t have a ton of those opportunities.
by 40AS on Sep 27, 2008 10:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You are right
He was in, no touches though. We also had him in a goaline set on the score to open the 2nd quarter. Chris O was lined up ahead of Cody, and blocked for the big man.
He also played on Special Teams.
by BoddickerIsClutch on Sep 27, 2008 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Giddy for D-line
I was so excited to see our d-line making sandwiches in the kitchen that was the Arkansas backfield. We got pressure on them all day long, and it was with our linemen, not by blitzing linebackers (with the notable exception of Sergio a couple times).
by BigTexBD on Sep 27, 2008 11:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
And that in spite of the blatant holds by the Arkansas O-Line
I think they were called for holding once. I lost count of the times Sergio, Orakpo and Miller were wrestled to the ground before they could get to Dick.
Life is an Occasion. Rise to it.
by patienthornsfan on Sep 28, 2008 1:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good point
The holding by Arkansas was frequent and obvious. The SEC crew should be ashamed of themselves. You have to at least call the obvious holding (i.e. where the defender beats the block, get past the blocker and is then held from behind). Where is Mike Leach when you need him?
by Kafka on Sep 28, 2008 6:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Same here !!
The blatant holding was almost amusing. The refs ignored it as much as they could. It made it very easy to show my wife what constitutes holding – and what constitutes refs condoning it.
by HalfmileHorn on Sep 29, 2008 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i got mad at chiles last week for fumbling and he did it again….kinda unreliable and i was actually quite pissed this time. I stayed for the whole game.
by MJY6087 on Sep 27, 2008 11:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Numerology
So what is the mystical meaning of the numbers 52 and 10? Is the defense channeling VY? Does the offense have some obsession with the amount of time it takes to circle the sun?
Bizarre to have the same score three times out of four games …
Watch out, I bite.
by EddieTheAlbinoSquirrel on Sep 27, 2008 11:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
And all of them home games
Makes one a bit more confident about the Missouri outcome
by edsp on Sep 28, 2008 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kindle
My favorite play of the game, at least on the defensive side, was in the first quarter when Dick threw the intentional grounding. Kindle went unblocked and had a straight shot right at Dick, who wanted absolutely none of that. You could smell the fear from the ridiculously awesome seats I was able to land for the game. Being that close to the action, both BiC and I were in awe of the size and physical presence of Kindle. The man is a freaking beast. I think Sergio will be visiting Dick’s nightmares for weeks to come.
by Meekrob on Sep 27, 2008 11:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I kinda had a feeling...
That this was going to be a great year for Colt. It sure is turning out that way. I was impressed with the defense as well and the secondary is stepping up. I can’t wait to see them in action in conference play next week. I also can’t wait to see Colt throw for 400 and run for 100 in a game. I think it could happen this year.
BTW, Kirkendoll is stepping up too. The receiving corps is looking good . I now have very high hopes for this year, and even higher for next.
1 Peter 2:17
by HornsFan87 on Sep 28, 2008 12:01 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
what about aaron williams INT for touchdown? :D
by justfr1day on Sep 28, 2008 12:10 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely
Why isn’t this kid starting? He’s an absolute ballhawk, fast fast fast, and is big enough to physically challenge receivers as they come off the line – something PB’s two Defensive LVP’s have been unable to do so far this season. Let Williams start in Boulder and see how well he does in a real game, rather than leaving Beasley and Palmer in the starting lineup to be torched by Bradford, Daniel and Harrell.
Life is an Occasion. Rise to it.
by patienthornsfan on Sep 28, 2008 1:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
One of the products of playing a lot of kids.
Muschamp said the second and third team D played from late in the third quarter. A lotta players really showed up.
I think that is so great. It shares the enterprise. And we see youngsters like Williams and Robinson. That excites the players and us.
And Melton is showing up a good times, forcing a fumble. Very much a team effort. Positives building on positives. Even Bobino got a tackle for loss. Everyone contributing.
by whills on Sep 28, 2008 1:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
I didn’t get to see the game, but I have seen Palmer and Beasley play before and to be blunt, they arn’t that good. When we play OU sam bradford is going to eat them up and spit them out. I say give Williams as much playing time as possible in Boulder to prepare for Oklahoma.
BTW, did you see how fast that guy was?! grease lightning!
I like long walks, especially when they are taken by people who annoy me.
~Fred Allen
by Hook'em13 on Sep 28, 2008 1:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Both looked alot better last year
Not sure what is going on with them. Palmer looked at least servicable as we groom the young db’s and Beasley looked to be on the verge of an all-conference year.
by Horncasting on Sep 28, 2008 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Repeat after me....
Aaron Williams needs to start!
Aaron Williams needs to start!
Aaron Williams needs to start!
Aaron Williams needs to start!
Come on Boom, take a chance on the kid.

Life is an Occasion. Rise to it.
by patienthornsfan on Sep 28, 2008 8:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm pretty sure UTEP had 13 points at the half...
by the1austin on Sep 28, 2008 12:16 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yup
Typo. Great catch – thanks.
--PB--
by Peter Bean on Sep 28, 2008 12:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
On the downside, Chiles was hesitant and unimpressive as a runner today; his inability to make a linebacker miss in open space in the 4th quarter was just befuddling.
I’m not so befuddled by this. Frankly, I’ve never seen anything from Chiles here at UT to suggest that he has tremendous “wiggle” or vision. He has very good straight-line speed, yes. But he’s not shifty or elusive.
Chiles needs to become an effective pass-first QB in order to be successful. He can then use his speed as a secondary weapon to occasionally punish opposing defenses that fall asleep. I don’t think he can rely on his speed/athleticism as his primary attribute if he wants to have much success at this level.
by andy_wooster on Sep 28, 2008 12:34 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Agree 100%
I’m admittedly not a Chiles fan, but going to the game today and watching him play with my own eyes convinced me even more that we’re trying to hard to make him a fundamental part of our offense with mostly negative consequences. The only good drive he put together today resulted in a fumble and 7 points for the Pigs. And don’t forget that pitch back to McGee in the end zone that almost resulted in a safety. Not smart play, and no evidence of the athleticism and elusiveness that other BON’ers have been raving about. I think we need to put the “Chiles Experiment” to rest and get Sherrod Harris some meaningful snaps. If we’re relying on Chiles as our backup QB, we’re screwed if Colt goes down.
Life is an Occasion. Rise to it.
by patienthornsfan on Sep 28, 2008 1:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was ready for Sherrod, too.
There was a time here where the genuine five-star athletes had all the consideration in the world. What’s really changed? The runner I saw today may not be that good of a receiver, either.
by whills on Sep 28, 2008 1:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
Hes not making a case for himself to get much PT at all. I had wanted him at WR before, after today, I dont know that I would want him stealing time from the likes of Kirkendoll and Collins, much less Quan, Ship, Buckner, or Williams.
Every time we ran the “Q” was when our offense stalled. The first time was with about 5 minutes left in the first half, with the result being a 3 and out for negative 8 yards.
The second time was in the third quarter, where we were about to have another 3 and out, which got avoided by a PI call. After that, Chiles came out and the offense went back to moving the ball with ease.
by BoddickerIsClutch on Sep 28, 2008 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't help but wonder
if Harris looks like Garo Yepremian in practice. Why won’t they give the guy a series in a blowout like this?
Disciplina Praesidium Civitatis.
by zamm on Sep 28, 2008 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
On a fairly unrelated note
As I was reading through the gameday posts after I got back from the game, I noticed someone mentioned that the stadium seemed much louder than usual. I have to disagree with this completely. To me it was one of (if not the) quietest game of the year so far. For much of the time people weren’t standing and weren’t into the game as much as other games – probably due to the heat.
Just thought I’d throw it out there that how loud the game appears to be on TV depends on what station it is on. FSN is where we get to watch most of our games and it is also the quietest station of all the sports stations by nature. ABC/ESPN play games much louder compared to FSN and so, comparing the sound of games between FSN broadcasts and ABC/ESPN broadcasts is unreliable as a judge of how loud the game is in person.
Sorry if any of this is entirely illegible but I am completely trashed at the moment. Good Night!
by HornPossessed on Sep 28, 2008 12:42 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If I remember...
we discussed this earlier in the game when it was still kinda a game. I know our fans well enough that after it was in hand, it was time to drink or do other things. Not saying that that is right, but the firsat part of the game seemed loud and it was on FSN.
by Bevoboy94 on Sep 28, 2008 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Crowd noise
I actually thought it was pretty good,especially when Ark. had the ball and it got really loud when they were in 3rd and 4th and long. I was in the new end zone seats and just about everyone was screaming as their QB came to the line.
by Horncasting on Sep 28, 2008 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
it was not as loud because the student section from above had to endure the heat directly. By 2nd half i had to buy the damn 5$ dollar liter of dasani and it was hot as hell
by MJY6087 on Sep 28, 2008 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Crowd Noise Still Lacking
I had the same reaction as HornPossessed upon reading the open thread.
I have season tickets and have sat in the same seats since 1990. My seats are on west side, lower level, at the south end zone. While it may be louder at the other end of the stadium with the new, closed-in end zone, the stadium as a whole is NOT loud. Sure, there are some moments when the fans get into it but most of the time it is still a cozy place for visiting teams.
Also, I’d say there were less than 85k people in attendance yesterday. The student section was not filled at any point, the upperdeck on the east side was mostly empty, and even the north end zone had plenty of open seats. Maybe ACL, maybe the re-scheduled game date, maybe fans just taking for granted another W. I don’t know. But at kickoff, there were open seats for Arkansas than for Florida Atlantic or Rice. Sad.
--AW--
by awiggo on Sep 28, 2008 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was in Section 2 Row 45 AW
Where are your seats?
I agree with you, except for the critical 3rd down Arkansas plays it was quieter than church. And I felt guilty for standing up any time other than those plays or a Texas TD. Sad!
Life is an Occasion. Rise to it.
by patienthornsfan on Sep 28, 2008 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sec 2, Row 64
It is so sad that sometimes the loudest ones are those yelling, “Sit down!” to people a few rows below them.
--AW--
by awiggo on Sep 28, 2008 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not defending anybody
for being a no-show, but this was a rescheduled game. There was another MAJOR event in town. The heat was an issue.
Too bad half the home schedule, most years, comes when the heat index is at least in the mid-80s, sometimes in the 90s. And the air circulation factor when you pack in 95,000 or 98,000 is very low.
by edsp on Sep 28, 2008 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Those are Tempest's regular seats
… so stop by and say howdy to him. I need to get him a BON t-shirt to flaunt.
I thought the old goats at the Drum were bad about yelling “sit down!”, but they’ve got nothin’ on the geezers on the lower level at DKR. Shame on them.
Life is an Occasion. Rise to it.
by patienthornsfan on Sep 28, 2008 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LSU
fans left early too, and the game was close. LSU was only winning by 10, and there were a lot of empty seats.
by Longhorns84 on Sep 28, 2008 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did we go a game without the bubble screen?
I believe so.
by abcdmetrius on Sep 28, 2008 12:54 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ssssssh. You'll cause a analrism or something. nt
by whills on Sep 28, 2008 1:48 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Pretty sure we ran one to Cosby
to the left side and he made an amazing move to pick up big yardage.
Also, twice it looked like we faked that we were going to throw one to Williams and then ended up throwing to Shipley/Cosby for a deeper gain.
by Horncasting on Sep 28, 2008 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you're right on that.
Arkansas was quick; no use making a mistake on the corners. Plus the Horns use it some much that Ds have to work to defend it, setting up a lot of fakes and take-off plays. Good to see some deception.
by whills on Sep 28, 2008 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Melton on Muschamp: "He gets me riled up."
Well, hell, Henry, I’m glad something does.
We’ve been plumb worn out being riled over you.
We needed a break.
by whills on Sep 28, 2008 1:56 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Colt is having a fantastic year.
13 of Colt’s 19 completions were to Quan or Ship. It will be interesting to see if Quan and Ship can get open against OU. It seems like OU could put their best defender on either Quan or Ship (Quan, for example) and double team the other receiver (Ship, for example), thus forcing Colt to mainly throw to other receivers. What other horn receiver can step up? Most likely not the tight end. Ian Harris did not impress. Ullman will never be a receiving tight end. IIRC, Greg Smith did not play. None of the young wide receivers has established himself at this point.
The DL looked awesome. As I expected at the start of the year, they are fast and can get after a QB. It remains to be seen how they will handle OU’s huge OL and very strong running attack.
Beasley is becoming a disappointment. I was really hoping he was going to be a monster this year but it just has not happened. Very disappointing.
Palmer is still way too short and will be toast against OU.
Cody is running a lot better than Vondrell but partially because he can act as his own blocker.
Chiles does need to step it up. His passing is much better this year but he is underperforming as a runner, both of which are surprising. I don’t know how much Major can coach up Chiles and vondrell on their running (since Major was not a running back or even a running QB).
UT should beat CU so long as the altitude or weather does not play too big a factor. CU does not have that great a D. Darrell Scott did not look that great to me, either.
by Kafka on Sep 28, 2008 7:02 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
A few thoughts
Thanks for the post game round up.
Chiles looks horribly uncomfortable at quarterback. His struggles and McGee’s problems at running back can be resolved with the same solution. Switch to the I formation.
Thankfully, Fred Akers’ time in Austin has long past. Chiles needs to move receiver and McGee needs to move to tight end where he can line up as a passing catching tight end. Of course, linebackers will flatten him, but it is an idea.
Johnson looks much better at running back.
Melton is playing with a lot more intensity and the linebackers appear to have improved over last year.
We should win in Boulder because CU’s offense is non-existent, and their overall defensive unit looked terrible against a very mediocre Florida State offense.
As to OU, their running game did not look dominate against TCU. However, the Horned Frogs look to have the same problems Texas does defensively. The secondary could not keep up with OU’s receivers. Who cares if you cannot pop a rush for 10 yards when you can throw 56 yards to a wide open receiver?
Beasley and Palmer either need to show something against CU’s passing attack in the first quarter, or sit down.
Finally, is anyone else concerned about the lack of a deep threat at receiver? Can Shipley be that guy? Cosby? McGee?
by milevin on Sep 28, 2008 7:39 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
McGee,ou
V. McGee is waaay too small to plat TE.
TCU turned the ball over waaay too much, and gave ou short fields to work with. TCU has a horrible offense, and could have kept the game close if they could score some points.
by Longhorns84 on Sep 28, 2008 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
could have kept the game close if they could score some points.
Doesn’t that apply to everyone?
by billb on Sep 29, 2008 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
3 points
1. In regards to the running backs, after watching Cody Johnson effectively run the ball, and then see the coaches not give him a touch in the 2nd half, either a) they’ve decided Johnson’s the guy and they wanted to give McGee one more chance to prove himself or b) they really, really, really want McGee to be the guy kinda like with Selvin Young.
2. Chiles….to me the guy looks like he’s trying to win the starting job every time he runs, and the better Colt plays the harder he tries. Before the season I wanted to see he and Colt rotate and/or be on the field at the same time, but the way Colt is playing taking him off the field is dumb. Chiles needs to give it up and move to WR. It’d be best for him and the team.
3. It didn’t matter much in the game, but did anyone else think it was strange that we lost our 2nd TE before the season, lost our 1st TE last week, and out of nowhere we started running a lot of 2 TE sets? I would have expected more 4 WR sets before 2 TE sets. Not a big deal. Just struck me as odd.
'Til Gabriel blows his horn...
by mattyj on Sep 28, 2008 8:21 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
One more...
4. The one thing I’d maybe like to see different is having more explosive athletes returning kicks. Quan and Jordan are solid, but after watching OU play some this year they have a very exploitable weakness in kick and punt coverage, and I think its something we should look to take advantage of. Maybe Quan will prove to be capable, but I just don’t get excited when he’s returning kicks/punts like I did when it was Aaron Ross, Romance Taylor, or Nathan Vasher.
'Til Gabriel blows his horn...
by mattyj on Sep 28, 2008 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Punt/kick returning
I agree that Ship and Quan should not be returing punts or kicks simply because they are too valuable at WR to risk injury on special teams. The horns basically have two receivers who catch most of the passes: Quan and Ship. Blaine Irby was awesome at catching passes (maybe the best on the team in terms of simply catching the ball) but he is gone (and the prospects at TE look bleak right now). The young WRs all look a bit physically weak to me except for Malcolm Williams. For sure none of the young WRs have established themselves as a go to guy.
by Kafka on Sep 28, 2008 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
agree with #1
I think Cody won the starting job yesterday. I think they gave McGee a chance to prove he’s better than Cody, and it didn’t happen.
by Longhorns84 on Sep 28, 2008 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My thoughts
Like many have stated before I do not think Chiles needs to line up at QB, I am not sure WR is a good fit either if he continues to fumble the ball. Palmer and Beasley are simply not showing up. I am not sure who could fill those spots but Aaron Williams is a viable option, this kid is FAST and the way he moved through traffic to take the INT to the House made me think he would be an option at PR and KR. The defense looked great and our pressure on the QB’s are starting to turn into sacks. I think the Muschamp system is starting to soak in for our defense and that gives me some confidence going into the BIG XII schedule.
by Longhorn in MO on Sep 28, 2008 9:44 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Looking ahead to OU
Anyone else concerned about the lack of a downfield passing game. No one will deny the passing game’s productivity and Colt’s efficiency. My fear is that OU will be able to neutralize this 6 – 10 yard passing attack. What happens then?
by Kool Hand on Sep 28, 2008 1:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
GD goes into his shell and throws the bubble screen
I like long walks, especially when they are taken by people who annoy me.
~Fred Allen
by Hook'em13 on Sep 28, 2008 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
deep threat
I don’t think Texas needed a deep threat yet this year. So, we really don’t know!
by Longhorns84 on Sep 28, 2008 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
After the big runs last week, Arkansas tried to take away the deep threat.
That opened up a lot of shorter, mid-range passes earlier. Part of the time the Hogs had the safeties way back, preventing against any big play.
It also looked that some of the passes Shipley caught were in Irby’s territory; that is, they used Shipley more as an quick outlet than a deep threat on more than a few plays. Without Irby or a trained TE, that was a necessary tactical move and training for the future. Plus it changes the roles of Cosby and Shipley just a bit.
Realize that OU will give up something. If they can apply pressure, they cover the short and mid range passes tight and used the safeties over the top. If not, they’ll have to cover deeper. They’re not perfect in this respect – every team has to give up something, even OU.
by whills on Sep 28, 2008 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OU strategy
My guess is that OU will do the following:
- Put max pressure on Colt (OU will be able to pressure Colt because the pressure will be coming from zone blitzes that are hard to anticipate)
- not respect the UT TB running by not deploying as many run stopping personnel as usual (i.e. maybe replace a DT with a DE, maybe replace DE with an LB, maybe replace an LB with a safety). These kinds of personnel changes will facilitate more zone blitzing by OU.
- man up on the 3 WRs; best DB on Quan and maybe help from a safety on Shipley
- play a lot of nickel
I think OU tries to encourage UT to run to beat OU. In pass D, they focus on taking away Quan and Shipley and try to make Colt throw to a TE, back or the thrid WR. OU encourages Colt to run in hopes they can knock him out of the game or shake him up.
My guess is that UT D has to play OU straight up since OU has a balanced O.
by Kafka on Sep 28, 2008 11:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Few random thoughts from the game
1. Running back production is still a big question mark for this team. I still think alot of it has to do with our play formations/scheme and players not fitting them very well. Right now Johnson looks like the most solid. I was glad to see them continue to try to get McGee into a groove in the second half. Surprised not to see Chris O. involved in the passing game to fill in the void left by Irby.
2. Colt could not be playing any better. Just unbelievable. Same with Shipley and Cosby.
3. Good to see Irby still very involved in the games, even it it’s on the sidelines on a scooter. He had a huge smile on his face every time I saw him. Also, he seemed to be getting a good amount of attention from the cheerleaders and pop squad – so at least he’s got that going for him right now.
4. Keenan Robinson and Aaron Williams are going to be really, really good.
5. Overall defense and especially the pass rush was great. Only down spot was still missing some tackles.
6. I was a little concerned that the way the DB playing time has shaken out would cause some discontent with the yound safeties, but if that is the case you sure can’t tell it from the way they handle themselves and interact with each other on the sidelines.
7. Also, walk-on DB Ford looks like a pretty good player. Ark. try to pick on him multiple times on their last couple of drives but he more than held his own.
8. 5 years into his career I think we can all forget about Palmer ever looking back for the ball.
9. Had to do a doubletake to make sure it was Ben Alexander that recovered that fumble. Seems to have improved his mobility and speed.
10. I still think S. Harris should be the backup QB. If the full Q package is really as good in practice as the staff wants us to believe, keep Chiles in that role and groom Harris as the backup.
11. OL has lived up to the preseason hype so far, which is a surprise to me. Also, the freshmen OL are HUGE.
12. WTF was with Petrino calling time out at the end of the game? Bush league move and the crowd let him know it.
by Horncasting on Sep 28, 2008 1:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Miller and Houston were often double-teamed.
That’s what Miller said after the game. Due to that, the DEs and blitzes had a lot of gets for getting to the QB. That’s how the system works. We should be more concerned when we find a team that doesn’t have to double team, like OU.
Notice that it is not just Colt, Quan and Jordan playing well – the offense is executing extremely well as a unit.
by whills on Sep 28, 2008 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My observations
Colt is one of the best players in the country. What are the chances of Colt leaving early to the NFL?!
Cody Johnson should be the starter.
Q. Cosby and Shipley will be missed a great deal next year.
The defense played their best game of the year (good timing too).
Chiles will never start at QB with Colt and Gilbert at UT. He really needs to play WR/RB.
TEXAS can beat ou and Missouri
by Longhorns84 on Sep 28, 2008 2:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
They can beat OU and Mizzou
But the chances of them doing so are small. It’s a double edged sword, beat OU play flat against mizzou, lose to OU be pissed and come out on fire against mizzou.
I like long walks, especially when they are taken by people who annoy me.
~Fred Allen
by Hook'em13 on Sep 28, 2008 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I have to choose...
please let the Horns beat the gooners.
by Misterserious7 on Sep 28, 2008 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that would be better from a big 12 championship standpoint
and laugh in the face of blow u standpoint
I like long walks, especially when they are taken by people who annoy me.
~Fred Allen
by Hook'em13 on Sep 28, 2008 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that there is no way that colt leaves early for the NFL
I heard earlier in an interview with Mack Brown that it is a “slam dunk” that shipley will get an injury redshirt for being injured earlier in his career so he can finish up with colt
by Egonz on Sep 28, 2008 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Never gonna happen...
Colt would never leave early…he is a young man of principle who signed on for 4 years (excluding his RS year). My feeling is leaving early would never enter his mind. Same goes for Shipley…although his stock goes up this year, it goes up even more if he stays for his redshirt medical year next year, and continues to hook up with Pistolas AND demonstrate he is not a long-term medical risk as has so often been said.
by Horns757 on Sep 29, 2008 7:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
but..
what if he happens to get hurt next year? Even if it’s a small injury, the naysayers would jump on it saying that he is injury prone and will never be healthy. I think if the scouts tell him he’s good enough to play in the NFL, he would be wise to jump on that opportunity.
I don’t think Colt would leave, because there’s no guarantee of where he would get drafted, if at all. The same questions about VY (always out of shotgun) would apply to him. Hopefully he can continue his impressive run, and coupled w/ a similar performance next season, then we’re talking.
by vy til i die on Sep 29, 2008 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont see Colt / Shipley jumping early
But then again, I didnt think Jmike would either.
We wont know for sure until the deadline.
by BoddickerIsClutch on Sep 29, 2008 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Shipley went to the NFL
I don’t think it would count as “going early”. He has been here forever.
"There aint nothin' over till it's over. "
~Rocky Balboa
by Hook'em13 on Sep 29, 2008 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Solid point.
Allow me to rephrase, I don’t think either would go to the NFL with remaining college eligibility.
by BoddickerIsClutch on Sep 29, 2008 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What's wrong with Beasley?
Forgive my ignorance, but what is the knock on Beasley? Has he been burned a lot? Is he missing tackles? Or is it just that he’s MIA on a lot of plays?
I was under the impression that he doesn’t get a lot of action because he covers his guy well.
by Kool Hand on Sep 28, 2008 3:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
all of the above
I like long walks, especially when they are taken by people who annoy me.
~Fred Allen
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