Austin City Limits Music Festival 2008: A Visitor's Perspective
My old friend TW (forgive the anonymity--dude works in banking and, like, feels grateful even having a job these days) headed down from New York to attend his first Austin City Limits Music Festival. He asked me a while back if he could write this year's post-festival review and, not being able to attend, I was happy to have him weigh in. Your own thoughts on this year's festival in the comments below. (Also be sure to check out ATVS's festival thoughts here.)
I'm back from my second trip to Austin and first stab at ACL .. I still haven't taken off my bandana or made a serious effort to remove the Austin.com temp tatt I got the first day .. My only basis for comparison is my April trip out to Coachella Music Festival in California .. Lineups aside, the edge has to go to ACL given the amenities that come with corporate sponsorship .. The Dell and AMD stages might not be as cool as the Mojave or Sahara tents but if large-cap tech branding comes with better logistics I'm all for it .. ACL had more porta-jons, multiple exits at the end of the night, even better grid booklets and entry wristbands .. Austin natives might also find it hard to believe that Coachella has designated "beer gardens" so you can't actually drink while listening to your favorite band .. Quite a contrast from the 24oz Lone Stars they were handing out at Zilker Park .. Only upsides to Coachella were more art exhibits, the dance tent, and less children .. I hope to have kids one day but I don't look forward to explaining what "that smell" is .. After three diligent days in the sun, here are my key takes .. Thanks to PB for letting me sound off and apologies that my photo journalist "forgot" her camera.
BANDS I LIKE MORE POST ACL: Delta Spirit who has a solid album but sound even better live. "Trashcan" is by far their best track which sounded as good as I imagined and "People C'mon" was a lot of fun. Okkervil River reminded me how much I liked them with an awesome version of "Black." It was also the first time I got hit by a beach ball at a show and I totally blew the volley. Stars played a great set and "Take Me to the Riot" stood out. Hot Chip played a cool new version of "Over and Over." And Band of Horses played an incredible twilight set kicking off with "The First Song" & "Is There a Ghost" while the sun was still out and finishing with an upbeat "The General Specific" and a cover of "Am I a Good Man" in pitch black.
BANDS I LIKE LESS POST ACL: First up is Vampire Weekend who deservedly drew a big crowd but new songs fell flat and the lead singer's Sperry Shuffle dance wasn't doing it for me. Second is MGMT who was on a second-tier stage with only limited competition on the grid. It took me 20 minutes to weave my way through the largest non-headliner crowd of the festival just to get to a crappy spot next to a family. "Time to Pretend" still sounds awesome live but they lacked a certain stage presence. That aside, I'm still scheduled to see both bands in NYC over the next 3 months.
BEST SONG: Winner is Beck's "Loser." I missed Iron & Wine to get a "good spot" for Beck which ended up being between the cow flag and the pooh flag and still forced me to stand kind of sideways. Still awesome though and midway through "Loser" I officially lost my voice for the weekend. Honorable mentions to the beautiful Swell Season's "When Your Minds Made Up" and always pumped up Foo Fighters' "Times Like These."
FAVORITE NEW BAND (AT LEAST NEW TO ME): Fleet Foxes played a heartfelt noon set and blew me away. At first I thought they sounded like a modern-day Crosby, Stills & Nash with Jim James thrown into the mix but in subsequent listens to their albums I'm picking up more nuances. They also win ...
BEST CROWD INTERACTION: Commenting on troubled corporate sponsor Washington Mutual the band noted "Isn't it comforting to know that even banks can't manage their money, just like people." (BEST SOUVENIR goes to my WaMu yellow wristband). Honorable mention to Sharon Jones who brought some dudes on stage to dance. She's awesome.
BEST COVER: Tough category but winner has to be Okkervil River using the chorus of Beach Boys "Sloop John B" for "John Allyn Smith Sails." Gnarls Barkely doing Radiohead "Reckoner" was something I'll never forget though. Honorable mentions to Coner Oberst doing Paul Simon's "Kodachrome" and What Made Milwaukee Famous covering fellow performers Delta Spirit's "Trashcan." There's something about one indie band covering another indie band that makes you dance harder.
BEST COLLABORATION: Goes to the only one I saw with Gillian Welch bringing up Alison Krause for "Go to Sleeep Little Baby" from "O Brother Where Art Thou."
BEST OUTFITS: Despite the 90-degree heat most bands kept it hip in their pencil jeans, ties & blazers. Man Man had the right idea though coming out in their undershirts & boxers, though I think that's just what they always wear for shows and it just worked out well for ACL.
BEST JOKE: Christopher Denny killing time while his crew dealt with tech issues - "A dog walks into a bar with his arm in a sling and says, 'I'm lookin' for the man who shot my paw'"
MOST SAD THAT I MISSED (IN ORDER): Iron & Wine, David Byrne, Slightly Stoopid, Xavier Rudd, John Fogerty, Drive-By Truckers, Yeasayer, Old 97s, CSS
POLITICS: ACL was much lower key on the politics than Coachella which featured a live Obama pitch from Sean Penn. At ACL I think I only counted nine or 10 Obama shirts and only a handful of bands even referenced the election. N.E.R.D. basically said no matter who you vote for make sure you vote (i.e. Vote or Die), a prego Erykah Badu said no matter who wins Obama has shown us that change can happen, and Stars dedicated their song "Going Going Gone" to Bush.
BEST SONG TO HEAR WHILE WALKING BY A HEAD SHOP ON THE WAY TO YOUR CAR: Fat Boy Slim "Praise You."
BEST NON-ALCAHOLIC FESTIVAL BEVERAGES: Winner is Vico coconut milk which I bought every night on the way back for $2. Close second was Sweat Leaf Tea mint & honey which you could get inside for $6. Honorable mention to Steaz energy tea which they were giving out for free near Jack in the Box the first two days. These were all new to me but I'm told you can find them all at Whole Foods.
BEST AUSTIN FOOD: Winner is Gueros for the unlimited nachos just when I needed them and the sick mole sauce. Honorable mentions to Freebirds (Chipotle w/ options) and Kerbey Lane (which I'm told beats the piss out of Magnolia). Also have to give a shout-out to Alamo Drafthouse Cinemas because what's better than mozz sticks & beer while you're at the movies.
T-SHIRTS I BOUGHT: 1 ACL standard festival shirt, 1 blue tie dye "Keep Austin Weird" shirt, 1 Okkervil River shirt, 1 What Made Milwaukee Famous shirt. For some reason bands now insist on having their logos printed up on American Apparel T-shirts which means unless you're a cokehead or PB then you have to do 200 situps a day to wear them.
OVERHEARD AT ACL
"My friend's dad was a roadie for pantera"
"Bring out phil collins!"
"I wonder if they have chinese sign language"
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Comments
I'm on the oppostie side off the Vampire Weekend fight to the death...
I hate hate HATE them with a burning passion. That’s not true. I really dislike their music and HATE the fact that people with otherwise good taste in music like it.
I love the first half of the MGMT album, but I’ve heard their live show leaves something to be desired. I’m also in love with Okkervil River and seeing them live for the first time next week in NY. Glad to hear they put on a good show. Looking forward to it.
Thanks for the write-up, “TW.”
by billyzane on Sep 29, 2008 11:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
why the hatred for Vampire Weekend?
- I’ve done the iTunes sample of MGMT, and the only song I’ve liked is Time to Pretend. Care to change my mind?
- Okkervil River is awesome.
- Anyone else disappointed by Stars’ latest album?
- No mention of Mates of State, Louis XIV or the Eli Young Band, so thought I’d drop a vote of confidence for those three.
Would’ve liked to attend. I actually was in Austin this weekend, but unfortunately there for neither ACL nor the Arkansas game. Someone’s bright idea to have a wedding during football season. Oh well, it was overlooking Lake Travis, and pretty f’ing incredible. And free food is always nice.
6th was a cluster flux on Saturday night, but not as bad as I thought it’d be with 150,000+ drinking it up all day long. Oh—Rudy’s also inexplicably held an antique car show at their 183 location…WTF? So I went BBQ-less the entire weekend.
by jc25 on Sep 30, 2008 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Vampire Weekend
Getting past the fact that they flaunt their money, privilege and intelligence every chance they get (seriously, a song about the oxford comma? get the fuck over yourselves) and focusing only on the music, it’s completely whitewashed. There’s no drama, there’s no conflict, there’s no freaking emotion, there’s barely any beat. They’ve intricately crafted neat little songs in which NOTHING happens. It’s a short story without a story arc. And even stuff like that can work if there’s a certain mood created by the music that makes you feel something, ANYTHING inside. But no. It’s empty music. It’s just a couple of talented musicians standing around wasting that talent on music that should be playing on adult contemporary stations with Coldplay and other band that create songs completely devoid of meaning and real emotion. But hey, their pastel ralph lauren sweaters are totally cute.
Okay, I’m done now.
by billyzane on Sep 30, 2008 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
re: vampire weekend
I think the level of your disdain for this band is a tad excessive. It almost feels like backlash against the inordinate amount of positive press they received rather than the actual merits of the band. Harmless band and pleasant songs, sure, but nothing worthy of hatred.
Besides, I am a strong advocate for the use of the Oxford comma. :) Although, that’s not what the song is about.
And Louis XIV is pretty terrible.
by Jason Mayer on Sep 30, 2008 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, like i said earlier
I dislike the music, but i HATE that people with good taste seem to love them. It’s definitely a backlash.
I’m a proponent of the use of the oxford comma too. Unfortunately, in corporate law, or at least in my firm’s stylistic orthodoxy, it’s more or less non-existent.
by billyzane on Sep 30, 2008 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haha
I guess…we can’t be friends anymore? And we were getting along so well, too.
Or perhaps we can bond once again over a mutual hatred of another band.
I must say I dislike the oxford comma, unless when using to separate parallel phrases.
I also disagree on Louis XIV, but to each his own. I won’t HATE you for it.
by jc25 on Sep 30, 2008 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have not heard Louis XIV, so no comment there
Jason hates them though. And he says everything so authoritatively, you know it’s true.
by billyzane on Sep 30, 2008 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
yeah
I probably should have addressed each comment separately, but I was directing the Louis XIV bit to J-Mizzle.
It’s nice not really having anything to do at work and getting to surf BON all day. Been a while since I had the chance to do that.
by jc25 on Sep 30, 2008 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL
I don’t hate them, though. They’re just pretty terrible. :)
by Jason Mayer on Sep 30, 2008 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
MGMT is the rare band that makes me dance compulsively...
…which might be the strongest argument against them. I dig it, but I can easily understand how mileage may vary.
proud to swim home
by learned hand on Sep 30, 2008 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ACL WAS AWESOME!
I somehow managed to go to the game AND enjoy 3 days of ACL. Of course I missed out on the Fleet Foxes (saw them at Pitchfork in Chicago though) and The Fratellis. My favorite bands of the weekend were Band of Horses, Manu Chao, and Gogol Bordello.
by Sunkist on Sep 30, 2008 1:25 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I am glad everyone is finally digging Okkervil River
They are one of the more amazing bands that no-one really knows off. You should have hit up Yonder Mountain String Band and South Austin Jug Band as well. Awesome groups if you like amazing folkish rock music. Another Band that was amazing was The Mars Volta, kinda surprised not to see them on the list, but thats cool. You either like them a lot or not at all. One other thing, Magnolia’s is way better than Kerby, the pancakes are better, and the Eggs Zapatillo is amazing.
by Pdizzle on Sep 30, 2008 1:27 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
wrong about Magnolia/Kerbey Lane
whomoever told you that is clearly running a campaign of misinformation. kerbey is convenient if you’re a student, as it’s on campus. magnolia is a standout amongst all restaurants in austin. if you don’t believe me, try the ‘mag mud’ next time you’re there. queso mixed up with black beans, avocado and some other stuff guaranteed to delight your tastebuds and destroy your colon
by jtabor on Sep 30, 2008 3:12 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
To quote Dalton: Opinions vary...
I think both Kerbey and Magnolia have their strengths and I make a strong effort to visit both whenever I return to the Promised Land. Back in the day (ten years ago), you had to drive to Kerbey Lane, just like Magnolia, and still we flocked there…
So much for Bolivia...
by Kahuna on Sep 30, 2008 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL!
“I wonder if they have chinese sign language”
It's Mean to Ween
by Bombilla on Sep 30, 2008 7:52 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
food
We’ve had this discussion on Austin food before, but why anyone would go to Freebirds (or Chipotle for that matter) while in Austin is inexplicable. Go to Changos.
And Kerbey Lane has always sucked. Magnolia is 1000x the restaurant Kerbey Lane has ever aspired to be. Whoever gave you food recommendations sounds pretty clueless.
Also, I don’t know that “John Allyn Smith Sails” would qualify as a cover song, but I’m glad you liked Okkervil River (and that’s a hell of a closer on The Stage Names). I still haven’t picked up The Stand Ins yet, but I probably will today.
by Jason Mayer on Sep 30, 2008 8:52 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Not a fan of Changos
And I love Freebirds. Probably because I used to live a block from Hancock.
I do agree on Kerbey Lane sucking hard.
by the1austin on Sep 30, 2008 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I stopped
reading at temp tatt
JP in south Baltimore
by thejahpaul on Sep 30, 2008 8:55 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
okay I read on.... so, to recap,
-you saw NERD instead of David Byrne
-you thought the Fleet Foxes’ (who I agree were great) mention of WaMu’s troubles was better crowd interaction than Sharon Jones and The Dap Kings completely awesome, mind blowing show
-the best song you saw /heard ALL WEEKEND, OUT OF THE ENTIRE FESTIVAL AND AFTERSHOWS, was Beck’s Loser
-you either don’t like Obama, are not into bands talking about their choice for pres, and were glad to only see 9 or 10 Obama T-Shirts
-you somehow found time to catch a flick at Alamo with music going on all day and night
-if and when you have kids, you will thnk long and hard about taking them to a festival to see good music b/c you’ll cringe about and/or hesitate to explain ‘that smell’
-you skipped Iron & Wine, YonderMSB, & The Black Keys, (while waiting for Beck) and passed on Manu Chao, Neko Case, Galactic, Patti Griffin, & Antibalas
JP in south Baltimore
by thejahpaul on Sep 30, 2008 9:35 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
recap of a recap...
pretty standard.
Perhaps the most recognizable mascot in sports, and certainly the toughest looking, Bevo is a fixture
by run Bevo run on Sep 30, 2008 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
For belittling someone else’s tastes. Much preferred to simply stating your own, I liked that you were able to put down the reviewer as well.
--PB--
by Peter Bean on Sep 30, 2008 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
don't think I put down the reviewer
but if I did, I apologize. just hoped someone could clear up/see if I read that correctly, and/or agreeded with the reviewer re: (especially) the best crowd interaction (band&crowd) of the weekend being fleet foxes’ commenting on WaMu. not sure if maybe I missed something, part of that interaction, part of a joke, or something….
JP in south Baltimore
by thejahpaul on Sep 30, 2008 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks
For clarifying. Just want to make sure where matters of taste are concerned, we don’t devolve into typical messageboard warfare.
--PB--
by Peter Bean on Sep 30, 2008 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agreeded with the reviewer.
Okay, I didn’t go to ACL but I really wanted to use the word agreeded.
by the1austin on Sep 30, 2008 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ha
you got me
JP in south Baltimore
by thejahpaul on Oct 1, 2008 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sunday night...
leaving the festival I encountered a little Hitler in training outside the gates brandishing a bullhorn. He was screaching at weary music lovers that they would burn in hell if they didnt accept Jesus into their heart. Kinda caught me off guard, you expect that sort of thing in Lubbock, but not here! Am I going to hell b/c I didnt take a flyer?
by TX HOCKEY! on Sep 30, 2008 10:00 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wait, those guys aren't common anymore?
They were all over the place when I was in Austin, even in front of the Union. You could count on seeing them anywhere people were dancing/making merry/learning about evolution…
proud to swim home
by learned hand on Sep 30, 2008 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hmm
missed that guy. saw him last year and was looking for a good laugh on my way out, but to no avail. i did see a kid that looked like he might have been a freshman in college holding up a sign about 9/11 being an inside job.
by littlevisigoth on Sep 30, 2008 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
my take
I thought Band of Horses was the best of the weekend. they translate REALLY well live, and i was tickled at how tickled they were that so many people were there to see them.
my favorite advertisement of the weekend was for Sweet Leaf Tea in the OFFICIAL FESTIVAL PROGRAM, which said “Mix it with the ‘water’ you brought”. —AWESOME!
i had never heard MGMT and was intrigued by what i could hear from my spot by the AMD stage for Robert Earl Keen. trying to get closer was pure insanity and in the end, we gave up and went to see Spiritualized, which was probably 10 times better anyways. That dude rocks!
I thought the sound was F’d up for Black Keys, which is unfortunate, cause they seemed like they were rocking out.
I also saw N.E.R.D. and you know what, I thought they were awesome. I shaked my white bootie harder than for any other show throughout the weekend, and there were two 4-yr olds dancing on the blanket next to me and I was happy they were there. the great thing about ACL is that it’s so many different things to so many people and nobody has to agree on anything. that’s why there are 7 stages and three LONG days to enjoy whatever it is about it you like.
Lastly, the Raconteurs were awesome, I’m glad I stayed for Foo Fighters, I’m pissed I didn’t get to see Gillian Welch, and I wished they’d go back to plastic bottles of soda, cause it’s so much harder to mix it with my “water” in a can.
by littlevisigoth on Sep 30, 2008 12:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
ACL
Fogerty and Manu Chao were my favorites. Fogerty is 63, looks 45 and still has his unmistakable voice. I’m not old enough to have seen CCR, so this was the next best thing.
Good Decisions:
They went back from keg beer to cans – I wrote a complaint letter last year after spilling about $60 on the ground, so y’all’re welcome. They were also well stocked with plastic cups with ice to mix your favorite drink. I stuck with Knob and Sprite.
Thanks for the review TW. What are you gonna tell ’em that smell is?
by jimmer on Sep 30, 2008 1:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
cups with ice?!
guess i never noticed. i like the addition of the 24-oz cans as well. short of going back to the bags of beer, that’s probably about as good as it’s going to get. i think about half of the attendees put pen to paper after last year’s mess with the kegs of beer.
best innovative wrinkle:
offering free shit to people that will actually walk around and collect empty cans and bottles from the crowd. how cool was that? you could practically finish your beer and hold the empty in the air and people would be falling all over themselves to take it from you. i never did see what it was they were giving away, but it must have come with bags of crack, cause people were ALL about it. props to whomever came up with that idea.
by littlevisigoth on Sep 30, 2008 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rock and Recycle
I think it was a t-shirt
by jimmer on Sep 30, 2008 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
my takes...
My over-all favorite was The Raconteurs. Jack White’s live guitar solos are just awesome. I have to agree with the love for Band of Horses, who I had heard of, but never heard their music before, and Gogol Bordello. GB is a band I like, and have always heard they’re crazy on stage, and boy is that right. They were amazing. Their violin player was ridiculous. Loved that show.
Speaking of Beck, and favorite covers, he did a cool cover of Dylan’s Leopard-Skin Pill-Box Hat. Very cool.
Bands I’m sad I missed: The Black Keys and Fogerty. Ugh. I saw Iron & Wine instead of Fogerty, and I don’t remember what happened with the Black Keys.
Also the Sweat Leaf Tea was only $3 for the bottle, which is pretty good.
And lastly, I’m still coughing up mud from my lungs. Good lord it was dusty there. It was worth it, though. Oh, and I have to give props to Dave Grohl who was talking about how cool the festival was and how much fun he had over the weekend. That was a nice touch and a good way to end the weekend.
by hornbone on Sep 30, 2008 1:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
and how awesome
was the triangle solo? aside from just cranking out songs that everybody knows, the Foos were a great show.
by littlevisigoth on Sep 30, 2008 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ACL
If you don’t see a show at the WAMU tent you are missing out on the party. YMSB and Galactic had the crowds going insane.
You bring your kids, expect them to hear the word "fuck" at the very least.
Manu Chao was my favorite surprise as I had never heard them.
Dave Grohl is hilarious. Dave to the crowd where apparently security was arresting some guy "Dude let him be, he is not an assassin – he’s just some drunk college kid who pounded like 7 coors lights and thinks he could actually get on stage." I would love to have a beer with him. The man knows a good gingle.
In contrast, Beck is a loser.
Backstage is as awesome as it sounds if not better.
Thanks for bringing the beer cans back Jimmer.
PB – albeit music is about personal preferences, your reviewer did have some glaring gaps. If I make it next year will you post my review front page BON?
Crystal Balls
by MMHorns on Sep 30, 2008 10:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I will
And if you write one tomorrow, I’ll post it then. That goes for anyone, really. Write an in depth festival review in the Fan Posts, and I’ll bump it.
As for personal tastes, I’m fine with reading one person’s take and thinking to yourself, “Way off in my book.” But when you comment, I’d rather read what you liked than your problems with what someone else did (or failed to mention). We can infer from your preferences whether or not you agree with the reviewer. Everyone wins. Kumbaya, and Amen.
--PB--
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