Ghost Runners in the Sky
Any physical stats for football players are suspect to some degree.
I've even known coaches to fudge downwards, but for the same reasons as some enhance their players sizes and times. One of the more amusing aspects of the NFL combine is to knock the bottom out of the exaggerations. However, we know from high school through recruiting and then college, speed and size are the currencies of the inexact art of player assessment.
This emerges re: PB's inclusion of my statement regarding the relative speeds of Vondrell McGee, Jordon Shipley and Quan Cosby and the contrary comments about the accuracy about those very speeds by several BONers.
Do I have to believe those speeds are accurate? No, I don't have to. They were merely landmarks for what Mack was doing: he was creating myth.
In the modern historical context, the term myth is often used as a pejorative, that there are no accurate facts to support a particular statement, at least not any that could be objectively ascertainable immediately. However, the nature of mythos is about sacred story telling, and in our case, the sacred stories are about the continuation of the past history of the Texas Longhorns and this new season. Each year the myth is renewed and enriched. (I use the terms interchangeably here.)
Mack is not alone in this construction.
BON does this, as well as everyone here and at other sites, in Texas and across the world of Texas fans. Every word spoken and every interaction out there in Longhornland creates the concept and expectation and eventually the history of these Horns. Most of this flows right over us and is not captured and confined; merely felt and understood.
Why do you think you come here everyday?
Most everyone here has long ago bought into the mythic story of the Longhorns. Even beergut. We enact rituals, we celebrate our past victories, we share new information, we claim heroic stories, we share our excitement and anxieties, and we revel, absolutely revel, in this long-standing connection with our youth and our personal history.
Mythos is inclusive and a powerful part of our everyday life. Football fans all across the country are doing this at this very moment. This is our tribal sundance, our unity in the face of an otherwise chaotic and dangerous world. No matter what our lives are about, this piece of splendid interaction draws us toward football Saturdays across this land. And, quite frankly, few things unite us as much as this mythic interaction, whether we win or lose. Being Texas, we know winning is better.
Mack's direct conclusion was that the Horns had exceptional speed, exceptional in terms of his prior teams.
I took that as a serious clue, a particular message for us. This has been a pre-season of minimized expectations and much lower proselytizing than the past two summers. The actual times of McGee, Shipley and Cosby are relative to this general conclusion. The only question for us is what they do with it and how what will occur as we create our myths for this season.
The thing I love most about football is that it exists on so many levels all the time. Yet, no matter how wide this flow of information and emotion, how great the myth may be, it comes down to 60 minutes on the field where the tale is told, regardless of the history to that point. Legends are made and the myth is renewed.
So, how did you buy into this Longhorn mythos, how did you come to love football, the Horns and this interactive buzz of BON? And what was your 40 time?
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Came to UT in 2002 for college
Hadn’t really followed the football team at all before that, but somehow I quickly became aware of the myth surrounding the program, the hopes and expectations, the enormity of potential begging for fulfillment. The Longhorns became my team deeply and unreservedly. I rose and fell as the program ebbed and flowed. About a year ago I did a Google search for Longhorn blogs and came upon the BON community. It quickly became a staple of my daily reading, my attempt quench the unquenchable thirst for all things Texas sports. What kept me coming back was the exceptional writing of PB and all the other contributors, as well as that sense of community that humans search for so deeply.
I don’t recall what led me to football as a fan. As a lover of sports it was easy. Coming from the Midwest, I associated football with the changing of the seasons, that beautiful melancholy of the fall as the leaves change color and drop from the trees. In the season of death my love for sport was reborn every year with football. The incredible combination of finesse and brute physicality.
As for Mack Brown’s quoted forty times, it seems likely that they are not correct, although there is a significant difference in speed between 4.30 and 4.39. Regardless, I think his message is that these players are fast. Colt looks noticeably quicker than the 4.74 that he ran in high school. And Mack is an advocate for his players, so I think most ardent fans know that his comments should be taken with a grain of salt.
by GhostofBigRoy on Sep 4, 2008 4:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
GOBR, I'm glad you found us.
Your contributions have quickly become a wonderful part of this community. At the core, we come here for information, and you fulfill that promise.
by whills on Sep 4, 2008 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Took root in 1990
My freshman year and the year of the shock the nation tour (that ended in a cold slap of reality). Interest waned over the next few years until the following milestones occured:
-Sun Bowl win over UNC
-Beating the Aggies on a somewhat consistent basis
-Winning the last SWC championship
-Beating highly ranked NU several times, including the first Big 12 Champ. game ever
-Ricky’s senior year
-Signing Chris Simms
-The recruiting class of 2002 (when I first started really following recruiting)
by Horncasting on Sep 4, 2008 4:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
We don't hear much about the "Shock the Nation" campaign
but that was a hell of a win at Penn State. And the Cash brothers were some of my favorite players. What Texas – and their fans – really wanted was far in the future, but that was a pronouncement that echoed with everyone. We wanted back on top and the only shocker was how long it really took.
Endurance counts. And all those events you note were great sign posts on the way.
by whills on Sep 4, 2008 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looking back on it
it’s really surprising that Hadnot didn’t ever have another good year.
If I remember correctly, we also came close to beating CU that year but McWilliams basically treated the game like an NFL preseason game and put a bunch of backups in in the second half. CU went on to become (ie be voted) the national championship that year.
by Horncasting on Sep 4, 2008 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I remember Hadnot's bull run against OU.
But he never fulfilled the promise of that play.
Damn, I’d forgotten about that game, the Horns only loss until the bitter ending. I think Miami wiped out my memory.
by whills on Sep 4, 2008 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
'90 was my last year at Texas
I was at that Colorado game and knew we’d given it away. But after the dreadfulness that was ’87-89, I had no reason to believe Texas would run the table and make the Cotton Bowl. What happened then will remain unsaid.
Hadnot clearly had a brain problem as was evidenced when he later just showed up at an Aggie practice and tried to transfer that way.
by horneye on Sep 5, 2008 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Been a long time
Since I transferred to UT Fall ‘66, and saw Chris Gilbert run (and read DR’s comment that CG “could get traction with both feet in the air”). Absolutely cemented with the Wishbone and all that followed. And my time in the 40-Yard Mosey was not recorded.
by GeekHorn on Sep 4, 2008 5:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I figure there's a lot of moseying out there.
The wishbone was the second coming. For me, I waited three long years for it. But the wait was more than worth it.
by whills on Sep 4, 2008 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Born and bred (-ish)
Daddy was a Texas fan my whole life (see below), but more for basketball. I started following the football team in earnest in ’98 when I was applying to colleges (yes, I was factoring football into my decision process). The rest is history. And I already had a closet full of orange!

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I will give my shirt for Tennessee today.
by Holly Anderson on Sep 4, 2008 5:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, true orange from the beginning.
I actually liked Rice at first but around ’59 or ’60 I went to a Texas game with my next door neighbor, who was the HS football coach and his kids (cost a $1 for the knothole section in the north EZ). After an afternoon at Memorial Stadium, a tough 6-0 victory over SMU, it was burnt orange all the way.
Both my daughters went to Texas – one graduated, one a senior – and I’m sure I’m the blame for that. Dad’s are like that. But, again, it was your free decision. Oh, I love women who make smart decisions.
I come visit your blog ever occasionally. Need to do that more often, Holly.
by whills on Sep 4, 2008 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I suppose
the ‘98 MNC didn’t hurt Tennessee’s cause…
Did John Mackovic and the rebuilding cost us a stellar lady sportsblogger as well?
proud to swim home
by learned hand on Sep 4, 2008 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely!
(No, I just decided I didn’t want to go to film school.)
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I will give my shirt for Tennessee today.
by Holly Anderson on Sep 5, 2008 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That picture looks eerily like one of me and my older sister
Its actually freaking me out just a little bit.
Honestly I didn’t care about college sports until my senior year in high school. My parents were University of Illinois Alums from a time where all their sports were atrocious. My first game seen live was Ricky against aTm in 98. Four years in Longhorn Band going to 10 games a year including every bowl game, and it was all over ever since.
by BoddickerIsClutch on Sep 5, 2008 8:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was a hell of a game to start on.
I had a lot of friends in the Longhorn Band when I was in school. They are the premier spirit unit, bar none. There’s no way you could have not become a dyed-in-the-wool Longhorn being around those people. No way.
Strangely enough I have a black t-shirt with Illinois on it. Don’t know where it came from. Have never worn it because I figure folks here would just put me away.
by whills on Sep 5, 2008 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was...
Born into it. Born right by the stadium in St. David’s in ‘62. Uncle played for Texas in the early 50’s. First football I remeber at age 2 and a half was the Orange and White game. One of the first stuffed animals I remember was Bevo (you know with the wires in the horns?… probably couldn’t give one to a child now, it would be "unsafe").
Grew up with Danny Akers, Fred’s son and played football with him in High School. Met James Street at age 6 and the rest was history. Oh, and I have a really cool program with the 1970 Team picture on it from the football banquet that year with all the guys having signed it… that was quite a feat for an 8 yr. old to accomplish in Austin back then, lot’s of walking around and talking with some really big guys (really big back then at age 8).
Wife and I graduated from Texas and I bleed orange and long for football season. I bought in to the myth long ago.
1 Peter 2:17
by HornsFan87 on Sep 4, 2008 6:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow, an outright baby horn from the gitgo.
That’s a great Horn’s legacy and you are right, you were vested long ago.
That Orange and White game at 2 and a half is just amazing. Great story. Thanks.
by whills on Sep 4, 2008 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks whills...
Yes I was desitned to be a Horns fan… funny I still remember that day of the Orange and White Game at Memorial Stadium clearly like pictures in a slide show, that would have been the 1964 scrimmage.
BTW, my 40 time was 5.0 flat in High School as asn offensive tackle. Not great.
Ejoyed your post.
1 Peter 2:17
by HornsFan87 on Sep 5, 2008 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heh, for an OT not bad.
We had one guy so slow we nicknamed him Lightning and it has stuck his whole life.
by whills on Sep 5, 2008 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whills, it’s not your fault you stirred up the engineers.
They’re just too serious about things like this. Vondrell McGee’s drag coefficients are too high and his propulsion system needs a boost before he can run a 4.3 in Earth normal atmosphere. Have HB crash him into the moon, and all bets are off.
The longhorn mythos was ingrained from an early age, though always from the adversarial point of view (the family composition is otherwise Ags, Raiders and…land thieves-though as faculty rather than the less tolerable graduates). My blood turned burnt orange when I arrived at UT in ‘02. I can’t explain how I contracted burnt orange hemoglobin, though I credit Nathan Vasher for making me aware of the condition. Symptoms further exacerbated when I started going to a C-USA school and moved away from my UT kindred. There were severe withdrawal pangs as I my outlets for regular, quality longhorn discussion became scarce…you don’t know how much you love the best things in life until you have to work for them.
My citizenship in Burnt Orange Nation came recently, though I’ve visited since 2006 (thanks to a link from EDSBS), I was one of the silent majority who came just to enjoy the information that editors and posters compile and analyze. Like many others I came for the information and became a regular because of the community. Besides being cordial, witty, and well informed, folks around here are impressively tolerant of a guy posting under the name of a dead circuit judge. It’s an impressive place.
As for my 40 time…Suffice to say, I am acutely aware that I have never had the speed for D-1 (and maybe D-2) football.
proud to swim home
by learned hand on Sep 4, 2008 8:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks, LH. I thought I was working in a vacuum.
And that is a great nom de plume; it radiates integrity and knowledge.
I lived for a while in Colorado and in Wyoming (pre-net 70s) and each time I became acutely aware of the dearth of information.
I later browsed Texas bulletin boards and HF and the like but those were such a pain in the butt; little info for the time involved. I actually was hunting for something like BON when I found it. I lurked a while but I just couldn’t stand not commenting; the live blog of games were just too much fun. I concur that this is a impressive place.
by whills on Sep 4, 2008 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Back to front
My 40 time requires an hourglass. I think I once did a 4.9, on a 20-yd. course
BON. Been a drop-in for some months. Regular for just a few weeks. Thanks to PB for encouraging me to write the 2006 recruiting review I posted in mid-August.
I was formerly in the business many of us (myself included) so revile: that of sports writer. Out of that game now, but I have pretty good insight on how stories are told (and not told). It’s sites like this that are brontosaurus-ing metro sports dailies.
Started liking football because of (hold the rotten fruit; it’s not my fault; it’s where I lived and all I knew at age 8) the Washington Redskins. Started appreciating football when I moved to SA in 1959 and a young DKR put his third team into the Cotton Bowl.
Grew into the Texas mythos as a student, cub reporter, fan, analyst. Covered the first Wishbone team, spent Aug. 6, 1969 (Big Shootout, for the younger crowd) in a roomful of Ohio State, Arkansas and Penn State followers in a dayroom at Fort Benning, Ga. Accepted the 14-0 deficit with grace, enjoyed the 15-14 rally with quiet (most of the time) dignity, and quietly excused myself TO GO LINE UP TICKETS FOR NOTRE DAME in the Cotton Bowl.
Thanks for your tolerance of an old guy’s memories.
Great topic, whills.
by edsp on Sep 4, 2008 8:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
We're brontosauring a lot of things.
Ever so often we all need to get acquainted, sorta like ole timey rural Texas when everyone came to town on Saturday. This is the new town commons.
PB is very astute about writing talent. He seems to be working on a stable.
I can forgive the Redskins. I once labored under a boss who was a Redskin fanatic and as a old time fan of the ’Boys that was tough until they lost eight in a row to start the season (around ’98 or so). That put a cork in that bottle.
That’s a great connection to the wishbone. I saw the Big Shootout with an older group of which most were casual Texas fans. I thought everything went the Hogs’ way in the first half, and I felt strongly it would balance out. They abused me a lot and were really down on the Horns, which I couldn’t abide in such a big game. But I persisted and, of course, what I thought did happen. Sometimes you gotta trust your gut.
Enjoyed your story, edsp.
by whills on Sep 4, 2008 9:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Got here as soon as I could and never left....
I came to visit a friend in Austin during my freshman year at a college in SA and decided I needed to transfer to Austin the next semester and I never left. It was so big and so incredible that even sco-pro couldn’t keep me from getting my degree and that Texas Exes window sticker.
I became fully orange blooded my first football game, can’t remember exactly who we played, it might’ve been because the free pizza and beer at some pizza place on MLK at 7am before the game. Texas/ou 14-13 in 1990 may be the most incredible sporting event I have ever been a part of in my life. Louder than any rock concert by far.
Stumbled on BON by chance during the 05 NC run and have visited just about every day since. Best Longhorn coverage bar none.
I know for sure that I can still run the 40 in 40.
Hook Em!
by Margaritaking on Sep 5, 2008 8:55 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
LOL. We can get you some competition at that speed.
The Infamous Turtles and Snails race.
I love the OU game. I had never seen anything like that either. I can’t believe anyone who has been to it would ever want home-and-home. Although it always takes me three days to get Boomer Sooner out of my head.
by whills on Sep 5, 2008 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was brought up liking sports.
I have loved football and basketball for as long as I can remeber. Moved to Texas at age 8, and discovered there were two sides to cheer for. Fell in love with Texas during Earl’s Heisman year. Attended UT starting in 86 and have not left Austin since. My fastest real forty time was 4.4, although during PE our coach set up a 20 yard shuttle run (20 yards there and 20 yards back). He put us in a line dropped a cone, where we stood, turned his back and walked 20 yards. Turning his back was a huge mistake because we picked up the cone and walked 5 yards toward him. I ran that shuttle 40 in 3.8. Of course it was really a 30, but it went in the book. I came to BON in 2005 (My UID is 68) meaning I am an early adopter.
by billb on Sep 5, 2008 10:13 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That's call sneaky fast. heh
And a 4.4 puts you near the top of the BONer list. I could do a 4.5 once upon a time. And I might have to again if HB keeps his mouth a running; I figure his brain is a lot faster than his long legs. Hell, a 5.5 might do it.
Thanks. I am amazed at the incidence of these relationships to Earl, Ricky and VY.
by whills on Sep 5, 2008 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oddly enough...
of my family who went to college, most are aggies. Thankfully, my childhood hero signed to play golf at Texas when I was 12. It didn’t take long to rid my life of maroon and wrap myself in the glorious thros of burnt orange.
A coaching friend of my dad took me to my first Texas game (1995 vs. TCU 27-19). While I didn’t know many players on the team and didn’t know any traditions of the school, my first experience in DKR left me longing for more.
As fate would have it, I followed my childhood hero’s footsteps into golf. Unfortunately, the Longhorns never came knocking and I took my talents to another school (SHSU)willing to pay for everything. Nonetheless, my thirst for all things burnt orange never subsided and I was graced to have a teammate/roommate with the same unsatiable lust for the Longhorns.
I have been fortunate enough to witness VY’s first and last games as a Horn. Watching him run around the New Mexico State defense as a freshman was exhilirating. Watching him come from behind to defeat the “Greatest Team Ever” was priceless. Singing ‘The Eyes’ with 50,000 other diehards afterward was even better.
So, maybe I am a bit of a wannabe or never was, but I’ve been a fan for the majority of my life. Now I have the pleasure of passing on my passion to my son. He’s not yet two, but he can say “Hook Em” and “Texas Fight”.
BTW, I think my 40 time was somewhere between turtle and snail.
by Misterserious7 on Sep 5, 2008 10:19 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, we aren't speed demons here.
But we are burnt orange all the way through.
And kudos to your son. He’ll take on your passion one day and knock it out of sight.
by whills on Sep 5, 2008 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tribal sundance
Good line, whills. To a great extent that’s the function of football in our culture, as it is in many others going back to the early civilizations. It sustains the ancient warrior cult and provides the tribal identity that humans are ingrained to need. By identifying with our team, we gain a sense of belonging and a reinforcement of group values.
Though my dad was a UH grad, his best year was spent at UT in Austin before the war and he remained a Texas fan all his life. When I made my own decision to come here, it strengthened the bond between us — especially when my little brother ran off to A&M. That made football a family affair for us, and even though the two of them are no longer living, I can’t watch a game without thinking of them. My mom is still around and feels the same way. Longhorn football and basketball are something we can share. I guess my point is that in addition to the tribal identity, there is a generational dimension that is equally important.
Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.
by Caradoc on Sep 5, 2008 10:52 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks, Caradoc.
No one in my direct family had ever gone to college despite being in Texas since the 1840s. Just hard scrabble ranchers and farmers, hard working practical people. So, I started it and now, with my daughters, it has sustained. The identity and the generational lineage is a powerful role. Just getting to college is the important step, we all know. But I never expected the other side of the Longhorn experience that is priceless and that we can share with those who are just fans.
You’re right, we all need the tribal identity. One of the things the MNC in ‘05 brought was a giant acceptance of identity with UT from a range of people I know have never attended college. But now the seed is planted. It’s not just football; it’s about education and the future. May our tribe increase.
by whills on Sep 5, 2008 1:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

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