Morning Coffee Wonders, What's Up With Vince?
About that small man running everywhere. Texas fans were understandably upset this weekend after UTEP ran for 145 yards against the Longhorns defense. Despite the horrible struggles of the pass offense over the last two years, the run defense has been the strength of the unit. Barker HenryJames wants you to step back from the edge:
The run defense wasn't up to snuff, but people need to step back from the ledge. "We were going to go into the game and give up a little in the running game to help our safeties out," Will Muschamp said in today's Statesman. "We were going to play a little more Cover 2, a little more quarters stretch and be a gap short on the line. We wanted to make them be a little more patient offensively." So we purposely took away part of our run support to help out our young safeties. If it looked like our linebackers were struggling, it's because they had to cover an extra gap.
Considering the obvious struggles of the linebackers recently, it's easy to worry this unit won't be any better. Even if Rashad Bobino and Jared Norton continue to struggle at times, the excellent play of Roddrick Muckelroy (14 tackles and a fumble return for a touchdown) should relieve the pressure on the rest of the defense.
Time to prove you belong, VY. Deadspin is reporting that Vince Young "quit" on his football team during the fourth quarter of Sunday's game against the Jaguars. I didn't watch the game because I live in AFC football purgatory, stuck watching the sorry Texans every week. The story is that Jeff Fisher had to order Young to go back into the game after throwing his second interception. He was hurt two plays later (MRI later today, initial estimates are 2-4 weeks and a sprained MCL). Entering his third year in the NFL, it's time to start wondering if Young will ever be an effective NFL quarterback. Clearly, his time at Texas is sacrosanct and beyond reproach, but I sense a change in VY as he struggles to even be an effective NFL quarterback. In college, he always seemed above the fray, helping opposing players up and patting them on the helmet. I noticed a change once he got to the NFL--he actually seemed chippy at times, he seemed threatened. Besides some struggles in his freshman and sophomore seasons at Texas, football has come easily for Vince Young. It isn't now, and how he responds to his current adversity will ultimately determine his NFL legacy.
Look at Fozzy move. After 12 spectacular carries in his college debut against UTEP, the only question was whether Fozzy Whittaker would move up the depth chart for the Arkansas game. With the history of Mack Brown and Greg Davis, no Texas fan was taking that advancement for granted. Texas fans can go back to worrying about Greg Davis's playcalling. The new depth chart lists Whittaker, Vondrell McGee and Chris Ogbonnaya all as co-starters. Not much new other than that, but Greg Davis noted that he didn't realize Fozzy had 12 carries. Further fodder for those who believe that Greg Davis doesn't know what's going on.
No beddy-bye for Mack and friends. ESPN Big 12 blogger Tim Griffin reports that Mack Brown and his coaching staff missed a night of sleep after returning late to Austin after playing UTEP:
Most Texas coaches didn't sleep on Sunday after the Longhorns returned back to Austin at about 5:30 a.m. after their late-evening game at UTEP. "Because they were already here (at the Texas football office) when we got back, most of our coaches didn't go to bed," Texas coach Mack Brown said. "It makes it a short week for us this week. And it's something we have to look to see if we're doing what's best for the kids."
While the lack of sleep will certainly make preparing for the Piggies more difficult, this shouldn't have an impact on the game. Arkansas doesn't have the personnel to run Bobby Petrino's offense yet, so they shouldn't be too much of a threat. Even though none of the current players were at Texas the last time Arkansas came to town in 2003 (no, not even Jordan Shipley), I hope the coaches instill in them the respect for the Hogs the team was missing before. Fortunately, there isn't a tall, ridiculously fast quarterback to worry about. If you're a masochist, this clip is for you.
So the Q package does actually exist? Greg Davis makes excuses explains why the Q package wasn't used against UTEP:
Because their defense is so different, it works better if you spread them out. The more you spread them out, the less confusing it looks. The more they're bunched in, the more confusing it looked.
He's trying to eliminate the confusion for the offensive line and Colt McCoy, I think. I don't know what kind of offense Buffalo ran, but they didn't seem to have much confusion in gashing UTEP in the running game. Instead of protecting the offensive line and the quarterback, Davis should have forced them to figure it out. If they messed up at some point, use it as a learning experience. Early in the season I wanted the offense to throw a bunch of different looks out there and see what works. Instead, I don't think this team is any closer to establishing its offensive identity than it was before the FAU game. I'm sure there will be more excuses in store when the Q package isn't used against OU and Fozzy Whittaker spends the game next to Mack Brown. I'm sure John Chiles is frustrated. I am. How does that saying go? Oh yeah, Texas never tries anything new until after losing to OU. Guess there's a reason for it...
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Texas won’t be trying anything new this season because I plan on watching the Horns beat the Sooners.
BTW, aside from what Deadspin is reporting, I have heard from a few sources that Fisher and Vince were discussing whether he should go back into the game because his hamstring was beginning to tighten up. Vince had a hamstring injury before the game even started and the conversation was solely on whether Vince could physically perform.
by Misterserious7 on Sep 9, 2008 9:40 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Thats one spin on it...
The other is that if he had an injury that was going to make his return questionable, the proper procedure would be to immediately call the medstaff over as soon as he gets off the field. Vince did not.
Instead, he went and sat on the bench with a towel over his head. The D put up a 3 and out, and the offense took the field without Vince. Correct me on any of this if Im wrong, all my info is 3rd hand.
It was reported that Fisher seemed to be in a very animated conversation with Vince on the sideline, which to spectators did not look like a concerned conversation pertaining only to the health of his hammy. Afterwards, Fisher said it was just Hammy talk. So its speculation, but it also seems fairly damning.
by BoddickerIsClutch on Sep 9, 2008 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I did not actually see the game
I am just going off of what I heard. Nonetheless, this is all out of character for Vince.
Let’s just hope he returns in 2-4 weeks both mentally and physically healthy.
by Misterserious7 on Sep 9, 2008 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
UH OH
Nashville police are searching for VY….eeek.
"Will the Rangers ever win...past July?" - Peter Schmidt
by TheJeezus on Sep 9, 2008 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
From what I just heard on Rome:
A friend was worried about Vince’s state when Vince left his residence late Monday. He didnt take his cell with him, and he knew he had a gun in the car.
Friend called Fisher, Fisher couldnt reach Vince, so he called the cops.
Fisher and cops caught up with Vince, and talked with him. He had a gun in the glove compartment, unloaded, safety on, with no ammo anywhere. Situation seems to be resolved without any problems.
Could just be an over worried friend, that escalated to a news story.
by BoddickerIsClutch on Sep 9, 2008 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunately, this will be endlessly repeated.
It was family members who contacted the police because he “abruptly” left home.
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“Not having all the facts available to us and approaching the matter prudently, we contacted Metro Police to make them aware of the situation and asked for their assistance in locating Vince,” the Titans said in a statement Tuesday. "He was located at a friend’s house, where we made contact with him.
“He then came to the practice facility, where it was determined that those initial concerns by his friends and family were unfounded and he returned home without incident,” the Titans said.
Young left the facility by himself in his own vehicle after speaking with Fisher and officers, police said.
…snip
Vince has a lot on his shoulders, although it sounds like some of it is self-induced. I hope that Vince and the Titans take steps to alleviate his concerns, some of which may, in fact, be real and legitimate. I wish him the best in finding a workable pathway to the future – and finding a reasonable way to deal with the press.
This isn’t a Pacman Jones situation; this is a serious and responsible young man trying to fulfill powerful expectations within and without himself. He needs our support.
Good luck, Vince.
by whills on Sep 9, 2008 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you're a praying Horn ...
Vince is said to be a man who believes in prayer. If you’re a praying Horn, I hope you will get on your knees and say a few words for VY. He has been such an inspiration to us all over the years. It’s hard to see him struggle, both in his job and his life. My prayers will be with him and his family. I have a great deal of faith in VY. I hope he still has that faith in himself – and in God – as well.
Watch out, I bite.
by EddieTheAlbinoSquirrel on Sep 9, 2008 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
In Texas...
…if you drive around with a pistol in your car, even if unloaded, you get to go to jail. Unless you’re permitted. I’ve never read anything to make me believe he has a permit to carry. Laws apply to everyone Vince.
--- All roads to the Big-XII Championship lead through OU/RRS. It's not just another game! We're all about championships here. ---
by HornChamps on Sep 9, 2008 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where did you hear that?
A “permit to carry” (CHL) is for your person, not your glove compartment.
by horndude on Sep 9, 2008 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What?
A) Hes in Tennessee, not Texas
B) Have you read anything to make you believe he does not have a permit to carry?
by BoddickerIsClutch on Sep 9, 2008 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's a can of worms we'd best avoid opening HC
I’m not familiar with Tennessee but there are a lot of in’s and out’s in various states (i.e. is the weapon loaded, is the ammunition in the car, is the weapon and/or ammunition readily accessible, is it a pistol, shotgun or rifle etc.) that make such a question a very fact specific inquiry to determine wrongdoing.
Anything on a message board like this is just inviting counterproductive speculation.
proud to swim home
by learned hand on Sep 9, 2008 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not to mention..
The police were there, knew about the firearm, and found nothing to worry about. This shouldn’t even be an area of speculation.
by BoddickerIsClutch on Sep 9, 2008 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Couldn't disagree more....
Driving around with a gun shows poor judgement. Obviously his mom agrees or she wouldn’t have had Jeff Fisher hunt down Vince.
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Police also confirmed an unloaded pistol was found in the glove compartment of Young’s vehicle.
In Tennessee it is not against the law to transport an unloaded firearm with no ammunition present in a motor vehicle.
Police said they do not know whether the gun was registered to Young.
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http://www.wkrn.com/Global/story.asp?S=8976169&nav=menu5_4
--- All roads to the Big-XII Championship lead through OU/RRS. It's not just another game! We're all about championships here. ---
by HornChamps on Sep 9, 2008 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How does...
driving around with an unloaded gun show poor judgment? The man is a multi-millionaire. People have the right to protect themselves, and if they can afford it and have the inclination, owning a gun, is one way of doing that. The gun was unloaded and it didn’t have ammunition. However, it could still be used to intimidate an assailant. Besides, he was found eating chicken wings and watching football at a friend’s house, according to his agent.
Driving around with a loaded gun is one thing. However, obviously, this wasn’t the case and would have been overlooked if the media hadn’t wanted to over-sensationalize everything to get readership.
by nahmorlah on Sep 9, 2008 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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Driving with an unloaded gun is also what happens when one is legally traveling to or from a firing range.
Like many Texans, Vince may occasionally work off stress by inflicting his angst on a range target. Otherwise, perhaps he likes driving around with a few pounds of inert metal in his glove box. Guns don’t kill people, bullets kill people.
As for his purposes with the unloaded weapon, I don’t know, you don’t know, and his momma may not know. In any case, if your argument is that merely having a gun in ones vehicle is inherently a sign of poor judgment or character, I might suggest a different tact on a University of Texas fan board.
I am occasionally disturbed by the fixation of athletes and firearms, but it’s not like we’re talking about Ray Lewis or Tank Johnson (or even Marvin Harrison) here. In the absence of any “fire”, why start a character inquest over this?
proud to swim home
by learned hand on Sep 9, 2008 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
VY as a QB
People have been questioning VY as an NFL QB since he started as a redshirt freshman.
Are we going to see a Merrill Hodge apology from BON in the near future???
by K2HMFIC on Sep 9, 2008 10:21 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Tap the brakes...
1) We’re two seasons into Vince’s career. Let’s give him a little time. Favre, Aikman and Young all struggled early on..
2) Even if Vince’s career is a colossal disaster, Merril Hoge is a douche, and, as such, is not entitled to any apologies.
"Will the Rangers ever win...past July?" - Peter Schmidt
by TheJeezus on Sep 9, 2008 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
apology for what?
VY is facing the first major bumps in his football career. In what I have seen of Vince in the NFL, he doesn’t appear to be dealing with it as well as he did the ups and downs of his college career. Remember the Missouri game? All this doesn’t mean I’m writing him off. Other quarterbacks may not have the raw talent that Vince has, but their skills more easily transfer to the NFL game. Vince is going to have to overcome his questionable throwing mechanics and questions about his ability to read coverages. The Titans deserve some blame for all this because they have failed to provide him with good receivers. Roydell Williams? Brandon Jones? Drafting Chris Johnson and Chris Henry instead of available receivers? Even if you accept that as the case, Vince has thrown 10 more interceptions than touchdowns in his career. Like I said, it’s not time to panic, but it is time to wonder.
by GhostofBigRoy on Sep 9, 2008 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not until I get an apology from ESPN...
…for incessantly subjecting me to the concussed, vacuous ramblings of former NFL running backs.
proud to swim home
by learned hand on Sep 9, 2008 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
agree about Merrill Hodge
He has been hit in the head too many times. I have no respect for him. I was talking about the apology from BON.
by GhostofBigRoy on Sep 9, 2008 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, Greg
Because their defense is so different, it works better if you spread them out. The more you spread them out, the less confusing it looks. The more they’re bunched in, the more confusing it looked.
I had to re-read that quote about 3 times, and I still don’t know what it means. GD horizontalism at its finest.
by jc25 on Sep 9, 2008 10:24 AM CDT reply actions 2 recs
Horizontalism and hurricanes.
The outer bands of Hurricane Ike brought unrelenting rain Saturday, turning DKR-Memorial Stadium into a pig pen when the drainage system couldn’t handle the runoff. By midway in the first quarter, uniforms were soaked and muddy and player identity became almost impossible. Greg Davis later related:
Because their uniforms were so muddy, it worked better to spread them out. The more you spread them out, the less confusing the muddy blobs looked, and we could identify our assignments. The more they bunched in, the more it looked like one big, giant muddy hog.
We can block 11 muddy hogs but blocking one giant muddy hog, goodness gracious, we’ve never practiced that. The freshmen would be so confused. If we’d known this was coming I would have put my new Muddy Hog Package in, complete with the pig tail options and the squeal play, but how do you predict a hurricane?
Oh, some day the sun will shine brightly on a cool, crisp fall day, the mockingbird will be singing high in the pecan tree, the pom girls will be so hot in their new rough-out chaps, the Wabash Cannonball will be echoing from the north stands, and the Q Package will finally produce an explosive play.
Of course, it was an accident. Mack yelled at GD “Pick the play” and GD went “What?” and Mack screamed “You play” and GD thought it meant “Q Play” and to the amazement of all it went 57 yards for a TD.
by whills on Sep 9, 2008 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
From what I read
last month in Chip Brown’s piece on Greg Davis, I’m inclined to lean toward the “It’s Mack’s fault” side of the argument.
What I mean is that Davis and his offensive staff come up with, then teach and put onto the practice field, any number of plays. But the head coach has final say on game-planning and — to some extent — in-game play calling. I suspect it’s Mack’s decisions that frustrate us as fans/viewers/second-guessers more than it is Davis’.
There are numerous things that go into the offensive game plan, including the need to see somebody new (Collins, Whittaker last week, Williams in the opener); the need to protect (without telling the public) minor injuries; the desire to “get touches” for players to build depth and the player’s confidence; and many others.
Plus, the Longhorns are the target of the underdogs, who do funky stuff designed to try to equalize talent discrepancies. This should, probably does, open up the possibility of big plays. It’s there the coaches seem to be cautious. I do think Mack wants to win decisively w/o running the score up. He also wants to keep a semblance of a competitive game so as to battle-test his second-unit and younger players in something close to real conditions.
In other words, a bunch of juggling acts going on simultaneously. Meanwhile, all us experts find fault with whatever happens.
by edsp on Sep 9, 2008 10:53 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ever since I....
….came to this site, I’ve been saying the offensive problems were the fault of Meddlin’ Mack. I was glad to read Chip’s revelation, as more Longhorn fans finally “get it.” The more often you see Mack on the headphones, the greater the liklihood of a conservative, bonehead call.
While we had real problems starting the right players last season on the defensive side of the ball, Muschamp made sure that wasn’t going to be a problem this year before he accepted the job. This year we have to be concerned with Tanner, Ulatoski and McGee being allowed to start, as they have “spilled the blood.” We’re running the ball much better to the right and our only 2 rushes of negative yardage were on the left side of the ball. When the talent of Colorado, OU and Missouri have a chance at the left side of our O-Line, they’ll put a hurtin’ on us.
--- All roads to the Big-XII Championship lead through OU/RRS. It's not just another game! We're all about championships here. ---
by HornChamps on Sep 9, 2008 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tanner
I can agree with you on; Ulatoski I can’t. I didn’t think he was deserving of being a freshman AA in ‘06 after making 6-7 starts at RT, where I didn’t think he played well. But he’s been the best OL both games this season, and Mack sure wouldn’t honor him that way if he weren’t playing better than Hall and Dockery.
As for McGee, it appears he was not 100% against UTEP. I have no problem with him starting; he’s been there and if Fozzy truly is the secret weapon many think he is, he’ll get his chances. Hopefully, enough chances to prepare him for OU.
I’ll add an unpopular view and say I think all the coaches, both sides of the ball, are playing the BEST players for that place and time.
Once I get my pads and helmet adjusted, you can take aim at me.
by edsp on Sep 9, 2008 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
serving youth in a zone of confusion
A lot of fan consternation, and I think much of the “oddity” of the UTEP game was a perfect storm of youth and X’s and O’s. UTEP runs a 3-3-5 defense, similar to the one West Virginia used to open up a can on Oklahoma last January. The sole purpose of this defense is to change which and how many players attack the line of scrimmage, and the mix of players is drawn from the 3 DL, 3 LB, and 1 or 2 safeties or rovers. On any given play, a safety, 2 LB, and 2 DL might rush, and a DL might drop into coverage. Although the alignments are completely different, this is the principle employed by the Giants’ defense in winning the Super Bowl. For a more detailed description see the quote at the bottom of this from the following website
Texas runs a zone-blocking scheme in which the offensive linemen are responsible for blocking any player in a “zone” extending forward from the line of scrimmage. The strategy UTEP used was to overload individual zones patrolled by the two Texas guards, Michael Huey (LG) and Cedric Dockery (RG) and center Chris Hall with 2 or even 3 attacking players. Most of the night, the OL handled this but, especially for Michael Huey, who was getting his first start, sometimes (and particularly in the late second and third quarters), the strategy resulted in a jailbreak and some serious pressure on Colt. The jailbreak occurred because one of the other OL did not shift over in time, or the G chose the wrong player to block initially. The 3-3-5 is tough on inexperienced zone-blocking lines because the assignments change on every play and the whole play gets fouled up if that happens. When the linemen choose right, however, half of the defense can get isolated away from the ball and we get the emergence of Fozzy Whittaker.
GD’s strategy to spread the field reduces the potential number of DIFFERENT players that can attack the line because the DB’s have to get out and cover the slot receivers or the TE and this simplifies the assignments for the OL (picking among 6 different players to block rather than 8. Ithink he used this to help Michael Huey especially, but the interior 3 linemen (which are still the weakest section in terms of pass protection). If you decide to spread the field like that, you put the game in the hands of McCoy, Cosby and Shipley rather than the RB, but the offense may seem to sputter because of the alternation of successful vs unsuccessful plays.
The 3-3-5 is vulnerable to big plays in the running game but can also make spectacular stops behind the line of scrimmage. It is the kind of gambling defense UT often sees from the patsies on the schedule because these teams know they have no chance playing it straight up as FAU tried to. Given that the adrenaline of the “big game” was likely making the UTEP players much quicker than they looked on film, the defensive gambling may have left the Horns surprised
OT Adam Ulatoski
On the performance of the offensive line to this point: I think that we have had a couple good games, but we definitely have a lot of work to do. We have to work better on running a zone and running a counter and all the different plays that we have. The last game, we had a lot of plays that were really close to being great plays, we just have to get everybody on the same page and then they’ll turn into great plays.
So this, I believe is the cause of the “confusion” Greg Davis was trying to avoid, and was an adjustment, similar to Will Muschamp’s decision to play safeties back in “quarters” and “cover 2” (more on that some other time), to the youth of the team and perhaps to Mack’s tendency to stay conservative and play lots of players.
In case you are interested-
3-3-5
The 3-3-5 alignment, sometimes known as the “Mustang” or “30-Stack,” typically relies on 3 down linemen, 3 linebackers, and 5 defensive backs: 1 free safety, 2 cornerbacks playing off the line, and 2 roving safeties that move around. The safeties take on 2nd receivers or tight ends and have to be able to come up and make tackles, usually outside the box. Generally, when running a 3-3-5 the user is trying to confuse the offense by “exchanging” different pressures in the A, B, and C gaps using the lineman, linebackers, rovers, and free safety while playing mostly zone or sometimes man coverage behind. Teams that run the 3-3-5 generally use it because they are a fast but sometimes smaller unit who wants to cause assignment issues for the opposing offense. Also, a 3-3-5 can be adjusted based on formation to a 4-3, 3-4, 4-4, Goal Line, etc. with the same starting players making it in theory a perfect counterpunch to whatever the offense is trying to do.
To effectively play the 3-3-5 the “Front 8,” especially the lineman and linebackers must be physical, stout, and tough. The lineman must be able to control their assigned gaps, get an effective pass rush, and take out double teams to free up the linebackers to make plays. The 2 outside or “Stud” linebackers must be effective at pressuring, reading and reacting to the play, and play at a low pad level as they will be taking on lineman and fullbacks while the “Mike” must be intelligent in lining up the defense in a counter to the offense’s formation as well as flowing to the ball and being able to shed blockers and make plays. The rovers or “Drillers” must be capable of pressuring, dropping back in coverage, being physical, taking on lineman, keeping contain, and coming up and making plays. The cornerbacks must be good in coverage and be physical tacklers. And finally, the free safety is the most versatile athlete on the field as on any given play he can drop in coverage, pressure the quarterback or play one of the “Mike” backers in the 3-4. In addition to this the free safety must be a physical tackler and hitter and generally your best playmaker and smartest athlete. We currently see this defense primarily used by the West Virginia Mountaineers. Implementing the front three as end, tackle, and nose. While the linebackers are referred to as Mike (Middle), Sam (Strong), and Will (Weak). While the secondary commonly consists of the Spur, Bandit, Free, Boundary, and Cover.
by burnt in ny on Sep 9, 2008 11:49 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
that's great stuff
where did you find that?
Disciplina Praesidium Civitatis.
by zamm on Sep 9, 2008 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
click on the word website
at the end of the first paragraph. Lots of other great background info on formations and strategies. The examples used are mostly from the NFL, but there is an occasional reference to college teams that use different formations.
by burnt in ny on Sep 9, 2008 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you are correct that texas runs a zone-blocking scheme but
Texas runs a zone-blocking scheme in which the offensive linemen are responsible for blocking any player in a "zone" extending forward from the line of scrimmage.
is really oversimplifying things.
texas’ OL has to identify the Mike and Duck backer against a 3 DL front; they are responsible for blocking the 3 down linemen and Mike and Duck. The WLB is the responsibility of the TB, the SLB is the responsibility of the TE. The linemen just need to get their combos correct so they can move to the callside backer.
texas is going to have issues with a 3 DL front (see KSU’s 3-4 last season) simply b/c they see it so seldom, so they aren’t used to making their line calls against it.
Ulatoski is simply saying they aren’t getting their calls correct on the zone and counter plays, and they’re not hitting their blocks b/c of that.
by Beergut on Sep 9, 2008 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well that was easy
so even before the Q package sees meaningful time on the field, GD has told us how to keep the package off the field all together. I’m sure after reading and re-reading GD’s statement for a couple of hours Brett Venables is now working on ways to “to bunch them up” so that we have to “spreading them out” and not field our most explosive line-up against OU. Before the season started, I predicted that the Q package would amount to a seldom effective formation and the beginning of the end of Chiles’ tenure as back-up QB. Although I’m ever confident in this team’s potential for 2009, Its because of Colt, the young WRs, Fozzy, and Muschamp — not Chiles. So far, I’d have to say I was right. This could all change against the likes of CU and Arkansas though because at some this year we have to quit coddling the players and let the kids be tested. Perhaps UTEP wasn’t the right time, but the Q is going have to see the field extensively in the coming weeks to change the tune.
by BMG on Sep 9, 2008 12:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It's possible the Arkansas game may be postponed.
This just out from Austin A-S:
Athletics director DeLoss Dodds told the American-Statesman Tuesday morning that "we’re trying to look at all our options."
If the game is postponed, it could be scheduled Sept. 27, when both the Longhorns and Razorbacks have a bye week.
Austin made play a role in some of the evacuations from the coast, which could affect many roadways and the campus area.
by whills on Sep 9, 2008 12:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
...so they shouldn't be too much of a threat....
Good post overall, but UT cannot underestimate any team coming into Austin at any time. Besides the fact that CF is now a much more level playing field (no pun intended) because of several different factors, teams come into Austin pumped to win. There is still that goliath vs. david attitude with other schools.
I’m trying not to be so down about the secondary, but they scare me. I hope they scare the coaches, as well, and they work accordingly in practice. Muschamp made adjustments in the last game, but he can’t count on that against OU, Kansas, Missouri, Tech.
Who would have ever thought we would associate the Big 12 with absolutely outstanding QBs…
by austin57 on Sep 9, 2008 1:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
CHILL OUT
UT is 2-0, and blew out the first 2 teams they played. Yes, they have some things to correct, but who doesn’t? USC might be the team with less problems, but I watched Virginia again this past weekend play Richmond (yes, i said Richmond) and they looked horrible. I think Virginia made USC look better than they really are. Some stats aren’t as good as we would like , but some are. Colt is playing much better this year. The points per game allowed is better. The points scored is better. The running game is about the same, but a future of Fozzy. UT will be fine by the time they play Colorado. Lamarr Houston will help the D out too. CALM DOWN!
by Longhorns84 on Sep 9, 2008 1:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
84.....
You’re certain not to be a threat to win a pick’em contest.
A sportsbook might pay to have you around, so they can loadup the other side.
--- All roads to the Big-XII Championship lead through OU/RRS. It's not just another game! We're all about championships here. ---
by HornChamps on Sep 9, 2008 5:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I Would do great at pick em'
I’m not saying Texas is perfect, but damn..Its the third game of the year and people are already complaining about GD. The Dallas Cowboys made planty of mistakes Sunday on offense, and I don’t think smart football fans would blame it on Jason Garrett. Its about execution!
by Longhorns84 on Sep 9, 2008 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait
Is Jason Garrett available? Can we afford him?
I’m just askin’.
by horndude on Sep 9, 2008 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No. He will be the next coach of the 'Boys.
Probably next year.
by whills on Sep 10, 2008 1:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Vince Young
As someone who has worked in the mental health profession for many years, I am very disturbed by the reports that “VY mention suicide to his therapist”
Unless the therapist felt that VY was a danger to himself or others, the therapist broke the law by releasing this statement (patient/doctor confidentiality) , not to mention violtating HIPPA laws.
A persons medical/therapy records are private with the exception of the above mention reason or if a supeona has been issued by a court of law. NO ONE in the public IS allowed access to any part of a patients medical records without the patient’s consent.
If I was VY, I would find out how/why this information was released and if appropriate, sue the F**K out of someone.
Just kick a man when he is down by playing this headline on ESPN every 15 minutes.
Come on VY, we are behind you. You will be back and you will win.
by JCHudson on Sep 13, 2008 11:37 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs

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