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Texas got rolled in OK

I have been waiting for the main column post all day to no avail.

At least OU didn't come back from FL with the MNC or it would have been even more painful last night at the Noble Center.  Every time the horns pulled within a couple buckets OU would go on a run to get it back to 10.  When we got it to 4 points (54-50), I thought it was going to be a game - WRONG.

I saw some good things happening last night. 

1. Dogus was really good last night, finally showing off the complete package for a game.  He played hard nosed defense and was even diving out of bounds with 45 seconds left in the game and the horns down 10+.  His athleticism was in full view as he skyed for boards and attacked the rim like it was his.  He also managed to dish 6 assists and make a jump shot outside of 10 feet.

2. Dexter looked really good defending the best player in the country, obviously frustrating Griffin (what a whining baby) when he was in the game.  He has all kinds of opportunities around the rim which he should get better at converting.  You had to expect him to foul out of this one.

I saw some bad things happening last night.

1. Damion James was inexplicably benched for 14 minutes in the first half.  14 minutes!!  I understand that Rick was pissed and trying to make a point, but christ, doesn't 10 minutes offer the same lesson?  With 4 minutes left in the half and the Horns trying to cut into the lead you want your best players on the floor.  Not Harrison Smith.

2. Connor looks weak.  I thought there were some flashes of good defense, but overall he has been so soft.  I am putting it off to the injuries for now, but it needs to stop ASAP.  He has had his chin busted twice, 20+ stitches in the toungue, and I think an ankle roll so far this year.  Give him a couple pain free games and hopefully he will get back on track.

3. AJ Abrams.  What a terrible line to look at.  3-for-15 from three.  The sad thing is I think he started the game 2-for-3 from behind the arc and he also had some wide open looks that he absofuckinglutely HAS to make.

4. - 12. Fill in the blank, a lot of shit went wrong.

I am thinking that Dogus gets a start at point guard replacing Mason.  I know what happens when AJ isn't on the floor, but I am officially in favor of him playing less than 34 minutes a game.  If Dogus, Mason and Ward can get penetration then who cares.

Just my thoughts, I am interested to hear what everyone else took away.  Tough loss, but not unexpected.

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This team is hampered by personel

Basically we have one true shooter, AJ who unfortunately has been down of late.
Outside of him we have a bunch of “big men” who aren’t sure what postition they play.

-Pittman has improved, but still has shoddy footwork and poor conditioning. He’s also a foul machine. He bites on fakes and gets caught in the air way too often. As tall as he is, he never needs to jump to contest a shot.

-Gary Johnson has been impressive all year. His work down low is generally good, but is more finess than bruising, taking fade aways and high jumpers. He is high energy and an asset in regards to rebounding.

-Connor Atchley, who has never played like a big man has really fallen off since last year. Without DJ’s playmaking ability, Atchley is reduced to a decent shotblocker/rebounder.

-Justin Mason has been decent at PG, but has never been a weapon on offense outside of an occasional drive to the hoop. He’s probably the best passer on the team, but he (as well as everyone else) can’t consistently make an entry pass. He’s very good on defense an usually comes to play.

-Dogus Balbay can’t shoot. He just can’t. Not only can’t he shoot, he refuses too. He is very fast and fluid moving with the ball but rarely drives to the basket. When he does he is looking to dish. He’s made some layups but just doesn’t seem to have confidence shooting or driving inside. He’s a good passer and above average defender.

-Varez Ward looks a lot like Mason as far as his gameplay. He defendes well and seems to be a smooth passer and dribbler. His shooting is limited. He drives but is often caught for the charge foul. This is sort of a rookie trait, but still, he’s 16 games in.

-Damion James is good and I still believe he has a pro future but it’s been 3 years in the program and I think we’ve seen his ceiling. A lot of us had visions of a driving penetrating force taking it too the hoop and finding ways to get his own shot. As it is he’s a sketchy perimeter shooter and good but not dominating inside the paint. He is a good finisher at the hoop but his passing is absolutely atrocious as it has been since he’s been a longhorn. When he gets the ball on the perimeter and has no shot, you can bet his pass is getting picked off unless AJ, Justin or Dogus come to bail him out.

-Matt Hill is roster filler at this point, offering nothing on offense and fouls to give on defense. At least he ditched the fro.

-Harrison Smith is a "volumeshooter " apparently because he never gets PT. Why is he even on scholarship if we were never gonna use him.

This team is disjointed. The defense is good no doubt about it, but the offense is hit or miss. We have lots of big bodies who like to play finesse, and we have guards who can’t shoot a high % or have no self confidence. This team can still grow but the passion just isnt apparent. Im not looking for Tim Tebow chest pounding but leadership seems to be a problem.

Their is a lack of cohesiveness and the offensive game plan seems to be:
-Mason/Balbay bring up the ball
-look for the man in the post
-give up on the post man because he doesn’t move his body well enough
-make some perimeter passes in hopes of get something open inside
-try to drive but retreat back to the perimeter
-let AJ chuck a three and hope he makes it

by owenh on Jan 13, 2009 4:56 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Well i only got to watch some of it

so i don’t have too much insight to add.

But one thing that I kept thinking when I was watching the early part of the game when we had something like…10 turnovers and no basket for 5 minutes? Yeah, well I don’t remember the specifics, but I remember being so amazed that we were only down by like 8-11 points during this stretch. Couldn’t really believe how OU didn’t run away with this one right from the beginning lol. I mean, I wasn’t able to watch the whole game but we apparently got within 4 points?

Anyways, for a while now I had been feeling that our team was ranked too high. There have been flashes of greatness and we’ve picked up some really nice wins with UCLA, Villanova, and Wisconsin was it? But at the same time, there has been absolutely no consistency.

Oh well, good thing about basketball is that there are a lot of games to be played. We get a shot at redemption against the Sooners a little bit down the line; might work out better for us this way as we all know by now, you get screwed more when you lose later in the season! :P

by hooked on texas on Jan 13, 2009 5:08 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Cohesion

We seem to have 4 offensive plays:
1) Have Mason scream, “AJ is going to shoot this one no matter what!” and run picks until he can catch and throw one up.
2) Pass to Damion, who doesn’t drive and misses a deep jumper with no offensive rebound.
3) Give it to Dexatrim and watch him score and/or make his free throws.
4) Give it to Johnson and watch him score much of the time (but definitely not pass). If fouled, usually makes free throws.

I’m not an expert in these things, but it appears to me that Damion is not suited for the 3 position. I was actually impressed with his performance in the second half. He seemed possessed getting rebounds and just generally pissed off. I guess Barnes really got to him with the benching and halftime speech. I’m fine with that – it’s a long season and I’d rather a message be sent now.

The team identity is certainly missing. Here’s to hoping the mid-level competition of the Big XII will bring it out. Seems like we’ve playing nothing but patsies and ranked teams.

by Sleepy on Jan 13, 2009 7:25 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Damion got 3 rebounds

in the entire game. That is not “…seemed possessed getting rebounds”.

by Kafka on Jan 15, 2009 11:35 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Did you watch a different game?

I thought Balbay was aweful. He cost us 10 points. 2 possesions in turnovers when he dribbled into trouble and left his feet with no pass available and just through the ball away. Could NOT drive to score. Out of control ALL the time (although one time he spun around and actually MADE a finger roll when I thought he was too out of control toslow the ball down enough, somehow it went in)

I thought he was terrible and was screaming at the tv for Barnes to take him out. Someone convince me I’m wrong?

"A lot of people look for the easy way to do anything, in swimming there is no easy way." - Eddie Reese

P.S. 45-35

by SwimTexas on Jan 13, 2009 9:00 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

We watched the same game.

Swim,
I can see why you may have seen some bad things from Dogus. He may look out of control, but I think that is because we aren’t used to seeing someone move so quickly with the ball. The finger roll was beautiful, and there was another move he put on Johnson when he drove right and turned the corner for an easy layup. He did get up in the air a couple times with no where to go, but he also got up in the air a couple times and dropped dimes for the bigs. His rebounding on the defensive end was also really good. I thought he was going to bump his head on the rim.

Even with 2 TOs look at the rest of his line: 7 boards, 6 assists and 8 points. That is a PG/Mason line that I can live with. I hope you see the same improvement that I have againest Tech.

by jimmer on Jan 14, 2009 8:48 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

He was only charged with 1 turnover

He also had one block and one steal.

by jimmer on Jan 14, 2009 12:37 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

If any team needs a shrink, it's this one.

They don’t have an identity. On one side of the coin is a big bold imprint of defense; on the other it’s blank. Nada.

Like busting in on a bunch of kids raising a ruckus, I wanna scream “What in the fuck is going on, you little two-bit fartknockers?”

We’re half way through the season and fans are getting more disgusted by the minute. We seem a long, long way from UCLA. Our #1 shooter can’t shoot, our #2 shooter can’t shoot, our de facto point guard can’t shoot, our center misses unbelievable shots and the one guy who really helped us last year is missing in action. WTF.

I’d rather have Chief Broom and four loonies…at least I’d know what I have.

So, switch DaMo back to a 2; he can play that. Put Connor at three, but with plenty of bench time. Tell GJ he must have a 2:1 shot to pass ratio or else. Tell Dex to jam everything regardless. Put Dogus on the point and tell him he must score 10+ a game or we’re shipping him to Greece. Put Mason back at SG and forget about him, like last year. Put AJ on the bench til he beat his shooting devil; this is his senior year and there’s no shooting your way out of a slump,he’s had his 50+ shots. Tell him when he’s in, you hit or else.

Seeing how Rick didn’t Install a semblance of an offense this year, install next years offense in July.

rant over.

by whills on Jan 13, 2009 9:03 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Fartknockers +1

Seriously, Rick needs to make nice with the Psych department and get some graduate interns over to Cooley to work on the head cases.

by jimmer on Jan 14, 2009 8:50 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Ha, yes, fartknocker. I had a gruff old uncle who said that all the time.

Especially to me.

I just needed to blow off steam on this. I have confidence in Rick, but I am concerned that this team is not going that far due to the lack of a consistent offensive attack. Great D, poor O. Great O, adequate D. Just can’t quite get the pieces together.

by whills on Jan 14, 2009 2:04 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

I think you meant switch Damion back to 4.

If you did, I agree with it all; if you didn’t, I agree with all but that one point.

-rBr-

by run Bevo run on Jan 14, 2009 6:44 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Time to Chill

Last night wasn’t pretty. We mostly stunk and we haven’t played well in several games, but it is a long season. This team isn’t indvidually talented enough to be dominant like some of our previous ones, so we we don’t do the little things it will be ugly. All that being said, at one point in the 1st half we had something like 11 turnovers, hadn’t shot a foul shot, were shooting less than 40%, had no points or rebounds from James, had no points to speak of from AJ and were only down 10.

Trust in Rick. Barnes has been known to risk losing games to make a point. I think this is what happened last night. James wasn’t playing hard, so he had him watch. He left Balbay in much longer than usual, and i think we started to see a glimmer there. Dex played maybe his best game. I believe this team will come together, it is just going to take a little longer. We’ll beat OU in Austin, take it to the bank.

by SaintBevo on Jan 13, 2009 9:33 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Agree

He played Harrison Smith as well, a guy who never sees the floor until garbage time. Last year he put Mooney in when frustrated with the effort of his starters, and Mooney earned a few meaningful minutes in the subsequent games. I think Harrison Smith played aggressively enough on defense to earn a few minutes in the following games as well.

This team has an odd makeup, and something just doesn’t feel right. It’s the first time since TJ Ford that we haven’t had a potential NBA all-star on our roster. Our best scoring threat is a lights-out albeit streaky shooter, but as a team we can’t shoot. This is the only Rick Barnes team I’ve seen with 3 guards in the rotation that could be left open at the 3 by the defense. We have a strong frontcourt, but our best frontcourt player (Damion James) plays on the wing.

Though I think Barnes has a few major weaknesses and certainly isn’t the best basketball coach in the nation, his biggest strength is adapting to his personel. If there’s any coach that can get the most out of a talented yet oddly balanced group of players like this, it’s him. I’ll put my money on Texas when we get OU at home also.

--always Texas--

by longtimelonghorn on Jan 13, 2009 11:13 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, I can't wait

for the Feb 21st Sat. and it just 5 weeks away. I have faith in this team and, I ’m very confident we will get even with these thieves.

Last night, I saw the thieves put our Hook’em sign upside down in front of ESPN camera. I hope Barnes will play that ESPN clip and show it to his players over and over again. Currently, I don’t see this team is playing with heart and fire.

by GoHorns1 on Jan 14, 2009 1:04 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

In other news

Jodie Meeks went completely apeshit AT Tennessee last night (yes, it’s possible to beat a similar-ranked foe on the road). He scored 54 and hit 10 (of 15) treys, both setting new Kentucky records. It was an absolute pleasure to watch. Great puff piece by Pat Forde here. See my thoughts at ASOB here.

Never thought I’d say it this year, but Kentucky looks like a better team than Texas. At least one of my nights turned out well this week!

by jc25 on Jan 14, 2009 8:50 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

Basketball coverage

I’m as appreciative as anyone of all the effort that our moderators put into BON and I’m really, really grateful they can find the time for all they do. But I must say I have been hoping for more in the coverage of longhorn basketball. What I’d like to see is a preview article on the day before the game, or first thing in the morning of gameday. Then at gametime an open thread for the game itself and a comment thread after it is over. Finally, cap the coverage the day after the game with a post mortem analysis. I can find most of that by visiting other sites, but I’d rather do it here, so I hope a way can be found to provide this level of coverage. (And at the same time maybe put the basketball schedule on the front page.)

Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.

by Caradoc on Jan 14, 2009 9:42 AM CST reply actions   0 recs

I'm with you Caradoc

I think now that football season is over we will see a transition from the editors to more basketball focused content.

I know AW doesn’t have quite the time he used to and PB is just getting back into the swing of school. It seems like in past years we have to get into conference games before the site switches to bball.

I like to see a gameday summary, open thread and post mortem analysis myself. Especially the post mortem b/c it provides a thread for comments like this one.

by jimmer on Jan 14, 2009 9:52 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

That is the Goal

and that is what we’ve been able to provide in the past. Sorry we/I haven’t been as active this season. We are working on a plan for more/better coverage. A number of factors have led to the decreased coverage.

I’m not ready to give up on this team yet and hopefully no one else is either. We are a flawed and easily defendable team and one with a ceiling that is not as high as I originally thought, but with the conference talent the way it is, 11-5 in the Big XII remains within reach. I’d take that in a second.

Thanks for your kind words. Look for more coverage soon.

--AW--

by awiggo on Jan 15, 2009 8:32 AM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Balbay

Made a sweet spin move and actually converted the layup. Then in garbage time he swished an open jumper. I see potential.

by goingforthecorner on Jan 14, 2009 12:12 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

Top 6 play

espn has picked that play as Top 6 on that night. I’ve to say it’s a pretty nifty move by Balbay. We need him drive to the basket more like that.

by GoHorns1 on Jan 14, 2009 12:49 PM CST up reply actions   0 recs

Point guard

I’m not as down on the horns as most. I know they work their asses off (you don’t play great D without working hard) and all I expect from a player is effort.

The offensive scheme is poor but I know coaching offense is not Barnes’ strong point (nobody is perfect) and there is no experienced point guard on the team, so I was prepared for some ragged play this season. My hope is that the offensive scheme improves as the season progresses. Barnes should hire an offensive coordinator. He does great at most things (winning, scheduling, running a class program, recruiting, physical development of players, honesty, etc) but he is not so great as an offensive schemer.

Selecting the point guard is a tough choice for Barnes. He has 3 contenders who are pretty close to one another in ability and experience. Balbay played pretty well against OU, maybe he is the one. It is going to be tough to bench Mason but his outside shot (even a free throw) is just terrible. Mason has the college experience but not much experience as a PG. Balbay has the PG experience but not much experience in college ball. Ward is pretty good, too, but is not standing head and shoulders above Mason and Balbay.

What I predict is that Mason gets one more start but is pulled quickly for Balbay if Mason’s play does not improve.

by Kafka on Jan 15, 2009 1:22 PM CST reply actions   0 recs

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