Injury Report -- Post OU
Texas heads into Mizzou about as healthy as could be hoped for this part of the season. Lamarr Houston hurt his knee in the second half but came back to finish the game. Earl Thomas hit his head on the sidelines but he came back and made a big play or two. Vondrell McGee had only one carry but it was good to see him back on the field. Tre Newton did not play due to the concussion suffered against Colorado. Post game it was revealed that Colt McCoy was sick all week and injured his thumb early in the game. The guy in the #12 jersey played the whole game but there has been no official word on if that individual was indeed Colt McCoy.
Finally, we'd like to step up to the Injury Report pulpit for a moment to blast Bob Stoops. If you'll recall last week we asked what would happen if Sam Bradford took a really nasty hit. Unfortunately for Sam we never got the chance. Aaron Williams' sack of Bradford was a good hit, no doubt, but it certainly wasn't a bone crushing, Bomar-esque hit, or even as brutal as the hit that originally hurt Bradford's shoulder. Moreover, Bradford fell on his shoulder but was not driven down and into the ground by Williams like what happened against BYU. Bradford has taken (and will take) nastier hits than the one he took against Texas with a healthy shoulder and bounced right up. The most logical conclusion is that Bradford's shoulder was not fully healed, a conculsion fully supported by post-game tests. A fully healthy player simply does not usually get hurt that easily. Sam Bradford was not a healthy player and, considering OU's offensive line, it was only a matter of time before he was reinjured. If the shoulder couldn't take the strain of being fallen on, a hit most quarterbacks take during the course of a game, he shouldn't have played.
Since it's up to the head coach to decide when a player plays, we feel the onus for risking Bradford's health and future must be placed fully on the head of Bob Stoops. Stoops' comments during and after Saturday's game, however, create doubt that Stoops feels any responsibility. At halftime Stoops called the shoulder injury "similar to the last one", suggesting Stoops considered Bradford's injury to be the result of two unique shoulder injuries rather than a single injury from the BYU game aggrevated against Texas. Maybe we're reading too much into that comment.
Post-game Stoops had another opportunity to acknowledge Bradford may have come back too soon and his own responsibility for that decision. Stoops' response? "I saw him throw the prettiest 60-yard pass to finish our warmup as I've seen him throw," Stoops said. "We were going with information from doctors. He understood the entire situation. Sam is a bright, young guy. He knows what he wants. Unfortunately, it just hasn't worked out for him." Thanks for playing, Bob, but there's a slight difference between getting your arm strength back and being healthy. Of course Bradford wants to play, he's tough, he's young, his future earning is on display every time he puts on a uniform. Stoops' response suggests he didn't have any say in the situation rather than acknowledge that it was ultimately his call.
We felt Mack Brown was rightfully lambasted in 2006 after allowing Colt McCoy back onto the field against Texas A&M entirely too early after suffering a serious neck injury. Bob Stoops deserves similar scorn for his decision regarding Sam Bradford, a decision which we hope doesn't cost Bradford money and an NFL future. Perhaps we're reading too much into all of this, but a player went onto the field in Dallas without a fully healed shoulder, that much cannot be denied, and Big Game Bob struck out again. In the end, all that's left is the good chance that Bradford's season and possibly his OU career ended on Saturday.
What say you BONers?
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It was clear from the start of the game that Bradford was favoring his shoulder.
He went 2/7 and most of those incompletions were due to him getting rid of the ball way before defender came within couple yards of him
His injury was bound to happen sooner or later in the game and had Bradford stayed and played the whole game, I doubt he couldve faired better than Landry Jones…
I believe Broyles was a similar case too…he also was one moderate hit away from being out for the season
COACH BOOM BABY!!
Colt and the sickness
Man… Colt needs to go see a doctor. He’s been “sick” every game so far. Over that excuse!
It's not like he is in constant contact with 50+ people all of the time...
"I live in the tower with Coach Brown." -Bevo
by run Bevo run on Oct 19, 2009 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not saying Colt hasn't been sick.
But why aren’t the other players getting sick? Colt needs to get his flu shot and wash his hands compulsively. Unless he’s immunocompromised or unhygenic (hand washing) he shouldn’t be getting sick significantly more than everyone else he’s coming in contact with.
They're not?
Or are they not the face of the program? I don’t know the answer.
"I live in the tower with Coach Brown." -Bevo
by run Bevo run on Oct 20, 2009 6:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Go find colt’s post game interview and listen to his voice…clearly he had a cold. Even though he was sick he got the W. Quit complaining, they’re undefeated.
by Texascr on Oct 19, 2009 6:16 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Not complaining just tired of coaches making excuses for him
by Dawnpatrol on Oct 19, 2009 8:41 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Agree
Bradford should have never come back this season after the shoulder injury – if Stoopsy wasn’t man enough to step up and tell him so then maybe his parents should have intervened. Don’t get me wrong – I’m not blaming the parents. The young man obviously received either poor information about the potential for risk, undue pressure from the staff to play or a combination of both. Big Game Bob now looks more like a desperate man trying to keep his job than the mighty and formidable adversary he once was. He, like Bradford, probably should have taken the money and run to the NFL when he had the opportunity!
As for Dawnpatrol’s comment, I somewhat agree – it does seem like Colt’s been sick a lot. But as rBr correctly points out, he is in close contact with more than 50+ people all day, every day and often in closed environments – I believe it when they say he’s been ill and don’t think it’s an “excuse” at all.
by OU Always Sucks on Oct 19, 2009 6:21 PM CDT reply actions
Actually...
I heard that Bradford’s parents didn’t want him playing last week, or likely this week, and wanted him to at least sit out a couple more games. Which makes the fact that he still played even MORE Stoops’ fault.
by Katie McBeast on Oct 19, 2009 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Tired...
Of Colt bashing… maybe that is a bit too harsh to call it, but c’mon the kid had the flu and then a cold. It happens sometimes. Looking forward to seeiing him at 100%. He is 6-0 as it is… if he/the offense gets it together we will all forget about the slow starts and miscues. Historically Texas always seems to do just great after the OU game anyway. I think we will all see a lot of good things in the coming weeks.
Play like you mean it...
On Stoops
I think it’s on the coach to shut an injured kid down. Of course Bradford wants to play; that’s how competitors are. But as head of the program, it’s on the HC to do what’s best for the player’s health. I just wonder if how much this will be used against ou in recruiting.
+1 million
People have said that Bradford wanted to play, but it’s completely on a head coach to know when a player isn’t really up to full strength and is risking his personal health and career to be a team player/tough competitor. I feel bad for Bradford. He’s so young and talented.
by Katie McBeast on Oct 19, 2009 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions
ou gets what they deserve
and i hope they continue to. thats what happens when u play a player who is not healed completely or when you play them despite knowing that they shouldnt play. i have no remorse for anyone in this situation, including bradford (sure i love him like everyone else on here and dont wanna see anyone playing football get hurt). he knew coming back would include risks, and this is one of em. too bad playa… too bad
also sucks for him that he plays for darth vader
"We'll be baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!"
by greenspointexas on Oct 19, 2009 6:54 PM CDT reply actions
Opinion by Writers
I read several articles today by so called experts that the UT win was somehow tainted because Bradford got hurt. I don’t buy that at all, the OU defense wasn’t hurt and we had a hard time putting points on the board. In the end our defense won the game because the offense had an off day against one of the best defenses in the game today (maybe even better that Florida). Sometimes these experts don’t even know what they are talking about but everyone keeps repeating their dumb analysis.
UT59
I knew it
Unfortunately, like many of you I’m sure, I knew that Bradford being injured would lead to some writers saying it wasn’t really a win because they didn’t have their strongest offensive weapon on the field. It didn’t look like Jones was playing too badly, but that will never be acknowledged. I might think it’s okay to say it was tainted without Bradford if we had struggled and they kept it close until he got out and THEN we blew them out, but that simply did not happen. As you point out, we struggled, they’re easily one of (if not the) best defense in the country right now, and a crappy O line couldn’t have protected Bradford any better than Jones. Anyone noticing the similarities between us and the evil suck to the north: dominant, game winning defense with a weak and unreliable offense? Yikes…I’m glad it’s working out better for us this season than them…
by Katie McBeast on Oct 19, 2009 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Another case in point . . .
Baylor’s stud QB got hurt early and went back in the game. The kid ALWAYS wants to go back in. Bears coaches were at fault on that one (maybe the doctors). With a few medical checks on the sideline, Griffin’s injury would have been spotted. Instead, he’s gone for the year.
The medics work for the program; they won’t clear an obviously injured player but being cleared and being ready to absorb full contact are not the same thing. Bradford knew he wasn’t right; watch tape of OU’s game with Baylor — he was hearing footsteps from cleats that weren’t there.
Sometimes, you gotta tell ‘em, “Not today, son.” You’d hope recruits and their parents remember that when Bob Stoops’ name shows up on the caller ID.
It’d be unfair at this point not to recall that Mack Brown let a clearly injured Limas Sweed play half the 2007 season before shutting him down — three days AFTER the loss to OU. Sweed, clearly, shouldn’t have been playing. He was fortunate; the injury didn’t get worse as he tried to play through it.
Stoops is a tool
There were too many players with injuries cleared to start. I hope recruits are paying attention. This is not a coach I’d want to play for.
I Hope
Jackson Jeffcoat took notice of this little detail. One of many examples of Stoops being the most selfish, least honorable coach in college football.
In regards to Jeffcoat I think we need to worry more about USC than OU.
Hope he didn’t see that video of the USC coaches sliding around on their wet practice field after one of their practices. The laid back atmosphere that USC seems to welcome is very attractive to recruits.
If Bradford plays.....
one more down for the Sooners, he’s an idiot. His stock is not going to go up and I don’t think he has killed his draft prospects now unless he permanently wrecked his shoulder.
If he plays sub-par even one game now, I think he starts to drop in the draft.
Sucks for that kid. Sooner or no, it sucks to see someone go out like that.
Big Bill "You never lose a game if the opponent doesn't score." Darell K. Royal
by Hook em Titans on Oct 19, 2009 10:37 PM CDT reply actions
Bradford should have never played
It is telling that Bob Stoops refuses to acknowledge his responsibility, which is similar to Mack Brown’s behavior toward Colt McCoy leading up to the A&M game.
This one isnt on Stoops
Just like Colt’s injuries aren’t on Mack. Should we bench Colt because his thumbnail might fall off? Now that his thumb’s all bloody, it could get worse during the Mizzou game. Should we bench him until he’s all better? No. Not unless Colt can’t go or the doctors say he shouldn’t go.
Multiple doctors (one of which was independent) cleared Bradford to play. Bradford wanted to play. So he plays. If we only played kids who were 100%, then we’d have a new lineup every week.
People get hit hard in football.
by the other Andrew on Oct 20, 2009 10:12 AM CDT reply actions
Mason Walters
At least I think that’s his name. How is he coming along with his stress fractured foot?
by aaronlybrand on Oct 20, 2009 12:26 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
wow
There are frequently some ridiculous criticisms of OU on this site, but this one instantly enters the top five of dumbest things I’ve read here. You can (and do) criticize Stoops for a lot of things, but this is definitely not a legitimate argument. I know you think Stoops is the devil, but if you truly think he put his own interests ahead of Bradford’s by allowing him to play on Saturday then I’d have to seriously question your intelligence.
By all accounts, Bradford and more importantly his parents were heavily involved in the decision of when to come back. If they didn’t want him to play, which is essentially what his father was quoted as saying before the Miami game, then he wouldn’t be in the game (i.e. again see the Miami game).
The kid sat out five weeks, was medically cleared to play, and reaggravated the injury which I’m quite certain was always disclosed as a possibility. I mean it’s not like he came back two weeks after being unconscious on the field after having been medically cleared only a couple hours before kickoff. If you want to break out the torches and go after someone try somewhere down in FL.

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