Proof that the Heisman and it's followers are meaningless...
by inVINCEable on Oct 20, 2009 12:53 PM CDT
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As if anyone needs further proof that the heisman is a shout out to the flavor of the month player for the sports media, I present this gem from ESPN's Heisman Watch Link:
1. Tim Tebow, Florida: Tebow isn't putting up silly stats every week, but he continues to win games, and that's what matters most. Did anyone think he wouldn't lead the game-winning scoring drive against Arkansas? Florida's wide receivers aren't elite this year and there's more pressure on Tebow to make plays. As long as Florida keeps winning and he plays an instrumental role, it's hard to drop Tebow from the top spot.
2. Mark Ingram, Alabama: Ingram made the biggest move of any player in the Heisman race Saturday, exploding for 246 rush yards against South Carolina. The Alabama sophomore is playing his best football against the best competition, combining for 568 rush yards in wins against Virginia Tech, Mississippi and South Carolina. The SEC already knew about Ingram before Saturday, but now the entire country ought to take notice.
3. Colt McCoy, Texas: The competition level increased for Texas against Oklahoma, but McCoy's production level plummeted. He completed just 53.8 percent of his passes in the game, which, given McCoy's standards, seems more like 35 percent. McCoy also continued his streak of throwing at least one interception in every game this season. He'll need big performances on the road the next two weeks against Missouri and Oklahoma State to improve his stock.
Now don't get me wrong. I'm not campaigning for Colt to get the Heisman. Excuses or no, Colt simply hasn't played like the best player in football. That being said, neither has darling Timmy. The article states that even though Tim Tebow puts up mediocre stats lately, he wins and that's all that matters. It then goes on to say that if Colt wants a chance at the Heisman, he will need to put up awesome numbers. Does anyone else see the glaring hypocrisy in this thought process?
Exit question: Is my criticism of the love of Tim Tebow hypocritical given my fervor for VY as a College player? I certainly don't think Tim Tebow is as clutch or unstoppable as Vince was, but is that perception skewed? Some thoughts from other Texas fans would be appreciated.
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Colt doesn't deserve the Heisman, and neither does Tebow
Tebow still being #1 all year borders on being a big joke. He hasn’t done anything to deserve it except the media is sniffing his jockstraps since last year and they can’t stop themselves now. But frankly, Colt has been awful, and doesn’t deserve to win, either. I would give it to someone like Case Keenum in Houston, who has been insane. The guy practically wins games by himself at times.
In-VINCE-able.
by iamjackburton on Oct 20, 2009 1:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Irrelevant Selection Process
Let’s all be clear: The Heisman award is not given to the player who is most valuable to his team. It is given to the QB or RB of any hyped team that is in the top of the rankings. Last year, Colt was the leading rusher of the team and had obscene passing stats. He obviously deserved the Heisman, however a case could be made for either Tebow, Bradford, or McCoy. This year, anyone who puts Tebow or McCoy at the top of their list is either an idiot or fails to grasp the meaning of the award. Based on the last of three above, Ingram is the only player who deserves to be in the top three from the bits and pieces of the game I watched Saturday.
by UTexasCPA on Oct 20, 2009 1:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Troy Smith!?!
THIS is when i stopped following
heisman = popularity contest of the highest order in our society. to think that it is given annually to the BEST player in college football is utterly laughable. if we are undefeated come december and florida and alabama both have one loss, then colt mccoy WILL get the heisman.. not because he might be playing the best, but because our team is undefeated
J-O-K-E – Thats how u spell heisman
"We'll be baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!"
by greenspointexas on Oct 20, 2009 2:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I was out at Eric Crouch!
"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro."
by Sexual Chili on Oct 21, 2009 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is just one of those years
where the winner is bound to join the ranks of Chris Wienke, Jason White, Ron Dayne, and Gino Torretta
by acho81 on Oct 20, 2009 2:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Give it to Tebow
That way Colt can hoist the real hardware a la Vince in 2005.
"Stats are for losers, I like winning games."
by bendj on Oct 20, 2009 2:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
that logic isn't seen in just heisman voters
florida and bama struggle to wins against mediocre teams and the majority say “great teams just find a way to win”
texas struggles against a somewhat down ou team(probably better than arkie and south carolina though) and its “texas is struggling I’d be surprised if they win out and they are not playing like a championship team”
by ThunderHorn on Oct 20, 2009 3:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If “he just wins” is the reason Tim Tebow should be winning right now, then it just goes to show even further than Tim Tebow’s Heisman in 2007 was the biggest pile of BS in recent Heisman history.
by burntorangehorn on Oct 20, 2009 4:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Tebow love
It has never made any sense. He won the heisman two years ago because of his amazing numbers on a team with 3 losses.
Then last year I’ve had a lot of people argue that he should have won the heisman because, while his numbers were not great, he just knows how to win.
I don’t think you should get to have it both ways.
by Texas Wahoo on Oct 20, 2009 5:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That is the SEC for you
When you have the numbers you stress the numbers in the big bad SEC. If you don’t, you stress leading your team to wins in the big bad SEC. It is the fall-back argument for the SEC blowhards. It all comes down to the fact that most national sportscasters and sports entities have the SEC labeled as a semi-pro league just below the NFL with all the other conferences huddled together a couple of levels below. Until that perception changes, the SEC honks will always fall back on “just winning in the SEC”.
by TexasGarcia37 on Oct 20, 2009 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
“After much consideration, I have decided to skip my senior season at
the University of Florida and ascend directly into Heaven,” Tebow
announced. Upon making the announcement, Tebow was bathed in a
blinding white light and vanished.
by cpabis on Oct 21, 2009 9:48 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Listen, strange fullbacks masquerading as quarterbacks is no basis for a system of government
Heisman wins derive from a mandate from the masses, not from some farcical post-game promise to the press.
by burntorangehorn on Oct 21, 2009 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Colt '08 is McCoy's Toughest Competitor
Look at all this again. Do you see the trend?
He completed just 53.8 percent of his passes in the game, which, given McCoy’s standards, seems more like 35 percent. McCoy also continued his streak of throwing at least one interception in every game this season. He’ll need big performances on the road the next two weeks against Missouri and Oklahoma State to improve his stock.
Colt isn’t being compared to the other people on the ballot. He is being pitted against the record breaking season he had last year. Check the stats on Tebow’s completion record last year to this year. Then check the overall body of work. I’m sick of hearing these guys measuring McCoy with his own shadow. What are they really saying. Last year was Colt’s Heisman year, unless he beats his own NCAA percentage record he set which had previously stood for decades, then his production level has plummeted?
by orangetower on Oct 21, 2009 7:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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