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Can someone please explain to me why some offenses (UT included) bring everyone in tight on short yardage situations?  Its seems to me that the wide receivers are then required to block someone.  If they are lined-up wide, a defensive player has to guard them and therefore is taken out of a running play.  I would think that offenses would have a better chance of running the ball for a first down if there are at least two receivers in and lined-up wide.   What's the logic of having everyone in tight?


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it doesn't matter if you have Cody...

he can carry the whole opposing defense on himself

by justfr1day on Oct 25, 2009 3:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The Jumbo Package:

is…

1-QB
5-OL
3-TE
2-RB (One being a 300 lb Nose Tackle playing Fullback)

10 guys straight up blocking. Cannot get more push than that set up, which means it is the BEST way to run the ball for short yardage.

Get off your knees Greg, you're blowin' the game.

by kriess on Oct 25, 2009 3:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The problem with sending guys out wide in those situations

Is that usually, in such an obvious running situation, you are removing just as many blockers as defenders. The safeties will not back off on 3rd/4th and short, and just put the defenders on an island against the receivers. This then makes for good passing matchups, but the defense will be bringing so many guys that your QB will have to get rid of the ball before any separation can be made. So, assuming you are running the ball, splitting out receivers does nothing to affect the net defenders/blockers matchup, but actually gives the defenders on the outside of the line (DE’s, OLB’s) a shorter distance between them and the ball carrier. I’m not saying that splitting guys wide is never a good idea (I’ve always believed that execution is way more important than scheme) but doing it without actually integrating a passing game into it is a waste.

If you're so sure of what it ain't, how about telling us what it am!

by circa1015 on Oct 25, 2009 9:43 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

just to play devil's advocate

you could argue that, for a dive play, a wide out receiver has a 100% block success rate (as he simply removes a defender from the equation), which is probably better than even the best pure blocker. If the defense sets up with big guys, expecting that you’ll run the dive, you could audible to a (play-action) pass play that takes advantage of the favorable WR match-ups. The D would be required to put at least one guy on each receiver that you set out wide. If that favors your dive, you take the dive. If the match-ups favor your receivers, you audible.

It depends on how confident you are with your goal line passing.

I’m going to acknowledge, but not remove a faulty assumption in this philosophy: A pure blocker could actually achieve a higher than 100% blocking success rate, as he might block more than one defender, whether by intent, or by simply taking up space, which certainly happens a lot, especially on the outside.

"We takin it all the way back to Awwwstin, Texas, baby!"

by 2100 San Jac on Oct 26, 2009 1:09 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

about the 100% block rate

actually you cant completely think about a WR split out wide and drawing a defender as being better then even the best blocker because you have to remember that the ball carrier isnt blocking. and on runs with the quarterback handing the ball off he isnt blocking either. so with say 4 recievers out wide and 4 dbs that leaves a 5:7 ratio of blockers to defenders. with the box stacked in it is a 9:11 ratio which is a better for the offense.

by tim11ut on Oct 26, 2009 3:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs


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