Dez Bryant is DONE for 2009.

[Sad news for Bryant and yet another example of the absurd randomness of NCAA punishments, but good news for the Horns as we head to Stillwater. -BZ]

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Wow. Too bad he didn't just

move his family into a house owned by an agent. apparently that is a lesser sin.

by Orangetower87 on Oct 27, 2009 8:53 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs

Bigger the school

Smaller the sin

If you're so sure of what it ain't, how about telling us what it am!

by circa1015 on Oct 27, 2009 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

LOL

At those responses – they are great!

by texascfo on Oct 27, 2009 9:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

wow.......just brutal.

by silky51 on Oct 27, 2009 9:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

The kid lied, whether he did something wrong or not he lied. Spending time in the military, I have been in OSI offices, where I was the only person in the room for an hour or so, then an officer comes in and asks questions regarding specific situations. Because of the nature of my job, which was as a network administrator, I was put in these situations. I understand feeling intimidated, but I also know that no matter what, these people WILL get the truth no matter what. Had I lied to them, I was facing losing everything, my job, my life(going to federal prison), losing my family and so on. I do not feel sorry for him. Many people, faced with more intimidating situations have done the same and lost so much more than Dez Bryant. The kid is still going to go on to earn tons of money in the NFL and still be with his family. I do feel bad for OSU because this sets a bad precedence for their university.

If I am being too harsh, please let me know. I just have no remorse for people who lie and then try to act like they didnt do anything wrong.

The "Big Bang" was actually a Will Muschamp chestbump......with the Earth!

by kirk1005 on Oct 27, 2009 9:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

He's a kid....

Kid’s lie. Made a mistake.

by Dawnpatrol on Oct 27, 2009 9:44 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

So was I

I was 19 the first time I had to be interviewed for an investigation…

The "Big Bang" was actually a Will Muschamp chestbump......with the Earth!

by kirk1005 on Oct 27, 2009 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

And?

Were you blindsided, or did you know the interview was coming?

by burntorangehorn on Oct 27, 2009 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Been in both situations

I have been called with no notice and I have had time to think about what I will answer with. I guess I should have concluded that with my point, which is, many people have lost FAR MORE because of a silly lie than just 7 football games while still having the ability to go on and make millions.

The "Big Bang" was actually a Will Muschamp chestbump......with the Earth!

by kirk1005 on Oct 27, 2009 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I hate this excuse

If you wave off everything a young person does because “he’s a kid,” he’ll never grow up. Even kids need to learn at some point that their actions have consequences.

I think the NCAA is being ridiculous in the way that they’re dragging these things out instead of saying “You lied to us. Your punishment is a 6 game suspension,” or something to that effect. But I’m tired of hearing that Bryant “is a kid” and should be excused for willfully deceiving an NCAA investigator.

If you want the NCAA to start coming down on people, then you can’t just point fingers at USC; you have to demand accountability for everyone.

by bassale47 on Oct 28, 2009 6:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think he should have been punishned, no doubt.

But my problem is with the wildly divergent punishments meted out by the NCAA. They punish individual students through suspension way more severely than they punish entire programs or coaches. They punish smaller programs way more than they punish bigger programs.

It’s not that Dez Bryant shouldn’t have been punished, it’s that, given the NCAA’s history the past few years with punishments, it seems quite harsh to suspend a guy for the remainder of the season for doing nothing against the rules other than freaking out that maybe he had inadvertently violated an NCAA rule and lying about the facts of a non-violation. That pales in comparison to some of the other things that the NCAA lets slide with a slap on the wrist.

by billyzane on Oct 28, 2009 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

This is the real problem

I dont mind a kid getting suspended for lying. Hearing Craig James last week trying to defend it just pointed out how indefensible a position it is.

The real issue is the seeming inconsistency in their punishment and rulings. The quickest way for a governing body to lose credibility is through unequal treatment of constituents. And though I don’t see the OSU’s of the world dumping tea and taking up arms, they are certainly justifiably upset.

by BoddickerIsClutch on Oct 28, 2009 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Good Point

by realmccoy on Oct 28, 2009 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It's not just a big school/small school issue

Brandon Collins and Christian Scott are sitting out an entire year because of some degree progress rule. They’re not failing. They’re in good academic standing. They just didn’t complete as many hours as the NCAA says they need to at a given stage in their college career. UT tried very, very hard to get around it, but the NCAA wasn’t having any of it, despite the fact that We’re Texas. Dez Bryant intentionally deceived an NCAA investigator, so he’s going to sit the rest of the year. I don’t find that to be unfair at all.

I agree that the players suffer way more than the schools but that’s because it’s very hard to prove that a program was even aware of a violation. It’s even harder to prove that they encouraged it or otherwise allowed it to happen, especially if the program refuses to cooperate with the investigation.

by bassale47 on Oct 28, 2009 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

USC Reggie Bush not withstanding.

by orangetower on Oct 28, 2009 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I understand your point....

….but the NCAA hardly gets to the truth no matter what. See Bush, Reggie…. and Mayo, OJ.

by junglerules on Oct 27, 2009 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Understandable

The "Big Bang" was actually a Will Muschamp chestbump......with the Earth!

by kirk1005 on Oct 27, 2009 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

That's a really, really different situation

When you’re blindsided with something, you’re going to react a lot differently than when you’re in that situation you described about your experience in the military. When I’ve been subjected to polygraphs for my job, I’ve been much better prepared not to freak out. So has my wife, and many others, and many of them STILL freak out and can’t follow directions—and again, these people have had time to mentally prepare, are professionals in their fields, and actually already knew that they had nothing to hide. Dez Bryant had none of those advantages.

by burntorangehorn on Oct 27, 2009 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Very true

It is very very hard sometimes to stay calm in situations like that, you are absolutely right. Still doesnt make the lie any more okay in my opinion.

The "Big Bang" was actually a Will Muschamp chestbump......with the Earth!

by kirk1005 on Oct 27, 2009 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

It doesn't make a lie okay

But a full-calendar-year suspension doesn’t come even close to fitting the “crime.”

by burntorangehorn on Oct 28, 2009 7:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Irregardless of the circumstances

He lied. Why does everyone want to give him a pass?

There doesn’t seem to be a discussion that the questions asked of him were confusing or in such a manner that he didn’t know that he lied, but that he instead made a conscious decision to spread falsehoods. Sorry, but that is wrong. I don’t care if hes stressed, mal-nourished, or in any other state of being.

Maybe the lawyers on here can comment if perjury is any less a crime if the witness doesn’t know ahead of time that he is going to be asked questions, but I bet they don’t give a rats ass.

by BoddickerIsClutch on Oct 28, 2009 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Who's giving him a pass?

I think everyone is saying a year is too long for the ‘crime’, especially when you add to it the ridiculously long time it takes them to rule on anything and the fact they have shown outright favoritism to certain programs who are often repeat offenders. I think 6 games would have been harsh, but if they had come out with that up front then I would have been more accepting. I would much rather they looked into OSU’s recruiting seeing as how certain types of recruits with certain connections seem to have a knack of finding their way to Stillwater.

by Rickyspub on Oct 28, 2009 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Just a bad situation.

Regardless of what people think about fair or not fair. I was hoping to see a great football player take the field against Texas and get punched in the mouth.

Stoops suffers from homo un-erectus. That's where his wang is hugeified not by a woman, but by a man.

by Ese-De-SA on Oct 27, 2009 10:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Have no fear

Kendall Hunter is gonna be there

"Stats are for losers, I like winning games."

by bendj on Oct 28, 2009 12:46 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

collective "sigh"

I know it is a shame and all that but I admit to a sigh of relief. Probably wouldn’t have made a difference. One guy and all that. But then….Crabtree.

by Ohio Horn on Oct 28, 2009 6:31 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I think this has more to do with NCAA enforcement than Bryant himself

Because the NCAA does not seem to be very good at investigating on its own, for whatever reason, they rely on schools and students to self-report truthfully. If they don’t punish lying severely, they lose much of their ability to “investigate”.

by Texas Wahoo on Oct 28, 2009 9:13 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Well put...

…a friend of mine said about the same thing, Dez is being made an example to those who may be faced with the same choice later on.

And while I think there’s a lot of truth to these theories, I still believe this thing runs deeper than a little lie. If it was that simple, you’d expect to have folks like Gundy and T. Boone (no strangers to airing grievances to the media) shouting from high pulpits about the injustice going on here. And we’ve seen none of the usual suspects (Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, etc) coming to Dez’s aid to leverage public outrage against the NCAA.

Maybe that’s still to come now that the NCAA has made it’s final decision, but my gut tells me there’s more to it than simply lying.

Be nobody but yourself in a world that desperately wants you to be like everybody else.

by 54b on Oct 28, 2009 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I just wonder why no one at OSU knew about his “friendship” with Sanders. That could not end well. I’ve never met Sanders and this opinion comes only from what I see and read about the guy, but he appears to be a narcissistic opportunist. Mentoring talented players? Only if there is something in it for him. Dez Bryant is a kid (yes, these players are still kids) who grew up in tough circumstances. He was probably scared out of his mind to meet with the NCAA, even though he might have done nothing wrong.

There may be more to the story, but I feel for Bryant.

by dimecoverage on Oct 28, 2009 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I have met Sanders

Many times.I felt like the whole “showtime” thing was an act. He was very nice, I do not think he is a narcissist (he only plays one on TV). However, he was VERY aware of perceptions and how the smallest thing could affect his income. An example, he refused to purchase anything from the “Coke” machine, he would only purchase items from the “Pepsi” machine (he only eanted a water-Pepsi machine did not have it). He was a Pepsi spokesperson at the time. He was cognizant of the fact a picture of him putting money into a “Coke” machine would play out very poorly for him. This was in the 90s when camera phones, et al, were not common. I do see him as an opportunist who does what most benefits him.

by billb on Oct 28, 2009 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Jordan in the Olympics draped the American flag over the Reebok logo on his shoulder

Purposefully, as he was/is a Nike spokesman. That sort of thing is not uncommon, and should really be expected if they are paying you that kind of jack.

I do know that Deion sponsors a youth football league here in Dallas, which is based, supposedly, completely on merit, not finances. With the idea being that underprivileged kids can get top level coaching at a young age to help them develop into a scholarship player at the college level.

Now, Im not saying he wont try and exploit some of those relationships he builds to possibly gravy train some athletes he comes across, but on the surface, and to a lot of people, its going to work out to be a somewhat noble cause.

by BoddickerIsClutch on Oct 28, 2009 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I agree on both counts

I think there could be more going on than just a lie, and I also think the NCAA is acting on fear of irrelevance. No one takes them seriously because they don’t take their jobs of policing college athletics seriously, and they’ve reached a point where they’re beginning to see the consequences of their inaction.

I do not at all agree with the way they have handled the USC situation. They sat back and waited for USC to do all the investigating, and by the time they woke up to the fact that USC was not going to self-report, USC had already buried the bodies. But now the NCAA is faced with a situation where they have incontrovertible proof that someone broke a rule (i.e. lying during an investigation). They cannot walk away from it and say ’well, this is minor in comparison to what USC was doing." That sets a very, very dangerous precedent.

by bassale47 on Oct 28, 2009 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I am surprised

that Deion just seems to get a pass on this, he more than likely was trying to steer Dez towards a certain agent. I think it would be naive to believe they were just “working out together”. I mean why is he so interested in Dez’s and other college atheletes’ futures if he didnt have an angle to make money on it. That’s just my read on him, shameless self promoter above all else… dare I say even Jesus

by TX HOCKEY! on Oct 28, 2009 11:23 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Yeah, but that's still conjecture

Why was Roger Staubach meeting with Colt over the summer all that different and did the NCAA inquire about that?

I also have no doubts that Colt’s dad has at least started thinking about agents and what they’re going to do to get ready for the draft after the season. That would be prudent and expected. Who does Dez have looking out for him? I don’t think the coaches can do much right now or face NCAA sanctions themselves.

For me anyway, this still just doesn’t add up. If a UT player were in similar circumstances, we’d probably have Joe Jamail whipping the NCAA’s ass provided it really was just a question of a young man being scared and lying out of fear.

Bottom line, the guy has been suspended for a year for a lie. Do players even get a year suspension from the NCAA for a positive drug test? Maybe so, but it still seems unfair it that’s all it was was a lie about meeting with Deion.

Be nobody but yourself in a world that desperately wants you to be like everybody else.

by 54b on Oct 28, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Basic Problem - NCAA Evil Corrupt Organization

All the points are valid, kid lied, inconsistency, blah blah blah. The overreaching problem is that the NCAA is a vile organization that acts like it is in the best interest of the kids, the integrity of the game, while in fact this is a money grubbing political organization awash in hypocrisy:

1. We want the kids to make academic progress. (But if they have to miss 2 days of school a week to be on Big Monday – so be it. Or maybe we could schedule March madness so the kids could study for Spring midterms and not miss a wee?)

2. We want equal playing field for all Schools (unless your USC or a Big 10 University)

by realmccoy on Oct 28, 2009 5:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs