2010 Red River Shootout To Be Played At Night?

From the DMN:

"Even packed full of riders, Dallas Area Rapid Transit trains can only reasonably handle about 5,000 passengers per hour.

Nevertheless, Thomas said the agency hopes to do better next year. He warned board members that the timing of the 2010 Texas-Oklahoma football game will make the crowds an even bigger challenge.

Next year, it's an evening game, with all 95,000 or so football fans letting out just about the time the final crowds from the State Fair will be seeking to leave."

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According to Tim Griffin,

OU denies the report.

The main question, which I think we’ve delved into at some point here — is it safe to play this game after people have had a chance to get drunk all day?

by GhostofBigRoy on Oct 28, 2009 4:13 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

are ousuckers ever not drunk?

by abcdmetrius on Oct 28, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Im always drunk.

and it’s awesome. Maybe you guys should drink more…

Changed my SBN user name from WoodrowWilson.
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by Jon Woods on Oct 28, 2009 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

maybe if we lost 3 games..we might..jk

by vy til i die on Oct 29, 2009 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

furthermore has ousucks ever admitted to ANYTHING in its history?

by abcdmetrius on Oct 28, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Are Bradford and Grisham still day to day as well?

by UT_BKC on Oct 28, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Forget the drunkeness

Is it even safe to leave Fair Park at night? The neighborhoods around Fair Park aren’t exactly a place you want to find yourself exploring at 11pm.

by Hookem4life84 on Oct 28, 2009 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

But

It would also be filled with roughly 100,000 people and hundreds of police officers. That tends to make just about any area safe.

by ryanlionrah on Oct 28, 2009 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Someone's never been to a south american soccer game...

by billyzane on Oct 28, 2009 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I've seen a game at Maracanã with 100K fans

For anyone who thinks the RRS is an intense atmosphere, you got nothin’.

Formerly kjm017

by Hopkins Horn on Oct 28, 2009 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

DMN says the DART president was probably mistaken

http://transportationblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2009/10/ou-big-12-insist-no-time-has-b.html

by billyzane on Oct 28, 2009 4:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I'd rather switch to home and home

than play this game at night. I’d hope the schools have stronger sway on this issue than they do with most everything else TV-related.

To hearken back to something I read over the summer: We’re Texas. Wedon’t need to play Thursday night games or 10 p.m. or 10 a.m. kickoffs.

by edsp on Oct 28, 2009 4:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Further proving the idiocy of DART

Don’t know where they dreamed this up … I’m starting to think the whole agency is on crack.

Watch out, I bite.

by EddieTheAlbinoSquirrel on Oct 28, 2009 4:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

DART sucks

by the other Andrew on Oct 28, 2009 4:44 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

DUCK FART!!!

I've been fuelin' my dreams eatin' greens and beans.

by 16thLonghorn on Oct 28, 2009 9:11 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs

Yes I’m an OU fan but personally I love this game starts so early in the day. I lived in Arizona for years and loved to get up on Saturday and get this game first thing. I would hate to see it moved to later in the day.

On the switch to home and home I also think would be a huge mistake. The neutral site game in Dallas is what makes this the most unique rivalry in all of college football. There are some that believe there are better rivalries but none come to OU/Texas when is come to the unique way the game is done. Neutral site games are becoming more popular but none of these have the Crimson and Cream on half the field and Burnt Orange on the other.

I would hate to see 80 years of tradition given up for a home and home.

This is just my opinion. I didn’t come here to start anything. It would be nice to see some UT fans opinions on what this unique game means to you.

by What_the on Oct 28, 2009 4:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

I would love to see a home-and-home . . .

. . . on a one-time only basis, if there were an iron-clad contract with the Cotton Bowl that guaranteed that the game would return for at least 20 years after two years on-campus.

I would have to imagine that the build-up for what would be perhaps the most anticipated home games in each school’s history would be like nothing else we’ve ever seen, and the chance to play for all-time “scoreboard” in Norman would be thrilling.

Then take it back to Dallas forever

Formerly kjm017

by Hopkins Horn on Oct 28, 2009 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I see what you're saying

But doing that would also take away the 80 years of consecutive times they have met on that field. I’m not worried about taking UT on at your field. Just like the Cotton Bowl there would be wins and loses. But I’ve been to the game and the atmosphere is amazing. Win or Lose this is a great experience. I have also been to home OU games and OU games at other stadiums. The games in Norman are fun and have plenty of other fans to cheer with. Away games a lot of times you get drowned out but still fun. But neither of these experience pale in comparison to the RRS in my opinion.

Just a great game in a awesome environment.

by What_the on Oct 28, 2009 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

If known going in that it would be a one-time only experience . . .

. . . I think the atmospheres in Austin and Norman for those one time only games would match — perhaps be different, but still match — the atmosphere in Dallas.

Formerly kjm017

by Hopkins Horn on Oct 28, 2009 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Rather than a home-and-home...

I’d like to see the “home” team fans get the tunnel side of the cotton bowl every year, rather than allowing OU to heckle our players every year coming onto and leaving the field.

Other than that, please stay at the Cotton Bowl.

by HornPossessed on Oct 28, 2009 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

...and the shade. nt.

"We don't freestyle Texas Fight, big boy." - Coach Brown

by TXStampede on Oct 28, 2009 7:07 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs

I think....

After the whole de-testicling thing of a UT fan by an OU fan a few years back, they realized they need to minimize the drinking time as much as possible.

Good call, in my book.

by TXinDC on Oct 28, 2009 4:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

it's common knowledge/sense...

that the game will not be played at night and also that the contract at the State Fair extends through 2014 (if memory serves me correctly).

this year was my first time to attend the game since the improvements to the cotton bowl. with 96,000 seats, i really see no reason to move this game anywhere else.

the idea of holding the game on the state fairgrounds at night is beyond idiotic. people never cease to amaze me.

i would, however, be in favor of a 1PM kickoff. 11AM is a bit brutal.

by brownf on Oct 28, 2009 4:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

It alternates every year

From 11am to 230pm. This was done when the Big XII was formed to accomodate CU/NU I think.

Really? Does my signature suck?

by adt2 on Oct 28, 2009 5:19 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs

You're confusung the RRS with the old scheduling of the A&M game

The timing of the RRS this decade has been dictated by whether ABC intends the game to have a national or regional broadcast.

Formerly kjm017

by Hopkins Horn on Oct 28, 2009 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

He's not confused.

It alternates every two years between 11:00 and 2:30. It has been at 11:00 the last two years and it will be at 2:30 the next two years.

I've been fuelin' my dreams eatin' greens and beans.

by 16thLonghorn on Oct 28, 2009 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Why would CU/NU care when the RRS is?

by Texas Wahoo on Oct 28, 2009 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Yes, he is.

There is no set rotation for the time at which the RRS is played. If there is any pattern, it is coincidental. The specific time is set no earlier than the summer before the game, when ABC starts to set its college football line-up, at least in terms of national games.

A couple of years ago (2007, I think), the game had an odd (for ABC) noon kickoff, and ABC showed no other games at all that afternoon, even in the late (2:30) slot.

And off the top of my head, I know that the 2001-03 games were all late afternoon (2:30) kickoffs, so that doesn’t fit with the idea that there was a two-year rotating schedule for the kickoff created at the time of the creation of the Big XII..

The A&M game, on the other hand, most definitely was on a predictable rotation until the game returned to Thanksgiving night. For the first four years of the Big XII (1996-99), our game with A&M kicked off at 10 am and the NU-CU game kicked off at 1:30. From 2000 through 2007, the A&M game would kick off at 2:30 for two straight years, then the next two years at 11, with the NU-CU game taking the alternate 11/2:30 spot.

Formerly kjm017

by Hopkins Horn on Oct 29, 2009 12:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Isn't it always national?

I can’t remember the last time the RRS hasn’t been on national television, because I haven’t missed one since I was stuck in Iraq during the 2003 season.

by burntorangehorn on Oct 28, 2009 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not necessarily always

I think the last three at the very least were all national. I’m not sure about 2006 and 2003 — being in the later time slot, there’s a chance they weren’t national.

The last game I know for sure wasn’t was the 2002 game, even though that was a #2 vs. #3 game. I was in DC at the time, and the ABC affiliate had an absolutely fabulous time with their choice of games. They first announced that they would show the Michigan-PSU game instead, even though both teams were unranked. However, as the games kicked off, they inexplicably started showing the RRS (pissing off the Michigan and PSU fans). Then, even more inexplicably, they switched away from the RRS, unannounced, early in the second half, pissing everyone else off.

The last time I think ABC didn’t carry the RRS at all was 1998 — Mack’s first year and Blake’s last year at OU. Oh how I miss Blake.

Formerly kjm017

by Hopkins Horn on Oct 29, 2009 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I figured out what Thomas was talking about

Baylor and Tech play at the Cotton Bowl next year as well.

Maybe that game’s already been scheduled for the night. But I don’t think Thomas needs to fear 95,000 fans leaving a Baylor-Tech game at the same time regardless of when it’s played.

(This also answers a question I had as to why the RRS is the first weekend in October next year, the earliest it’s been in years. The Baylor-Tech showdown, for some reason, gets our normal [albeith not this season as well] weekend.)

Formerly kjm017

by Hopkins Horn on Oct 28, 2009 5:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs