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Morning Coffee Sees Another Real McCoy

Horns_bullet_mediumMcCoy shines against Brownwood. The younger brother of Colt McCoy may not have thrown six touchdown passes against Brownwood, as he did against Bridgeport earlier in the season, and he may not have gotten off to a strong start, but he did show why Texas chose to recruit him -- once again, it's not a case of nepotism, as Case McCoy is a talented quarterback in his own right. Pressured early by Brownwood's defense, which includes the younger brother of safety Kenny Vaccaro, McCoy struggled to find a rhythm ($) and suffered from two dropped touchdown passes by his favorite target, wide receiver Dylan Fulford.

Even the final, should-have-been-game-tying drive didn't start well, as the Brownwood defense sacked McCoy on each of the first two plays, letting time tick off the clock -- the drive started with 2:21 left and Graham had no timeouts. An incomplete pass on third down forced McCoy and his teammates to convert a 4th and 19 to keep their hopes alive. Much like Vince Young against Kansas, McCoy scrambled out of the pocket on the play, broke a tackle and headed for the sideline. As the defense closed around him, McCoy had to go airborne to pick up the final three yards, succeeding in making to the marker.

Said McCoy of the remarkable play ($):

I felt the guy almost grab my horse collar, but I thought I was about to go down and I was like no. If I did the game ends. I had to make a play. It was fourth and long, and I got those two sacks right off the bat and it was kind of frustrating, but we made a play and gave ourselves a chance.

Eight plays later, Graham had to convert another fourth down, with McCoy once again rolling out of the pocket, but this time finding a receivr in the end zone for a 17-yard touchdown pass, finishing the evening 24 of 37 for 407 yards and four touchdowns.

Star-divide

Of course, Brownwood junior linebacker Derek Longoria didn't care for the game to go into overtime, blocking the game-tying extra point with eight seconds left to preserve the 28-27 victory in the only battle of McCoy versus Shipley to date. Perhaps a rematch will fall to the next generation.

According to IT's Jeff Howe ($), the game demonstrated just how well McCoy understands the quarterback position, not surprising given his pedigree. Much like his brother, McCoy throws the ball well on the run, as he showed on the late touchdown pass. Also like his brother, McCoy is athletic for his position and can make plays running the football, as he showed with the big 4th-and-19 run. Again, also like his brother, McCoy will need to spend time in the weight room to add strength to his thin frame -- since Graham is a relatively smal school, McCoy participates in school sports just about the entire year, leaving him little time to devote to building strength. His accuracy and leadership abilities are more traits he shares with Colt.

However, despite all those positives, McCoy does have areas in which he can improve. Howe found that his mechanics broke down when standing in the pocket and delivering passes early in the game and he sometimes fails to protect the football with both hands. The other area of concern is the deep ball, as his passes downfield tended to come out wobbly and often hung in the air too long. In fact, a great number of McCoy's passes are a little wobbly -- spinning the football is not his strong suit. As Howe mentioned, spending more time in the weight room will help his arm strength just as it helped his brother and by the time that Texas might need him to play after several years in the program, throwing the ball downfield should be much less of a problem. While the younger McCoy may struggle to beat out a better athlete in Connor Wood, if the example of his older brother means anything at all, it's dangerous to underestimate a McCoy, even if they are skinny as hell coming out of high school.

Horns_bullet_mediumShipley impressive against Graham. Eight catches. Two hundred forty-five yards. Two touchdowns. That just about sums up the type of night that Jaxon Shipley had against his close friend, Case McCoy. In addition to all the catches and all the yards, he also completed a pass for 35 yards. Don't look for him to make a switch to the quarterback position any time soon, though, as Shipley simply understands the receiver position too well. No doubt a lot of that is due to soaking up all the information he can from his older brother -- every report on the younger Shipley talks about just how well he runs his routes, catches the ball with his hands, elevates in traffic for the football.

Against Brownwood, Shipley showed all those skills, catching a pass along the sidelines in between two defenders and using his strong hands to pull it in past the hands of a defender. He showed his speed on a go route that resulted in a 61-yard touchdown catch. He showed his ability to get into and out of cuts. On another play, he showed his ability to elevate in traffic again, with his second touchdown catch coming in between three defenders.

If there is one concern, it may be his ball security -- in randomly catching the highlights of the game on Fox Sports, Shipley fumbled the ball after a catch because he was attempting to make a move with the ball not not protected against his body, but with only one point of contact, his hand, instead of the preferred three -- hand, forearm, chest. It's impossible to say if that is a consistent problem, but on that play Shipley failed to demonstrate good ball security. Though he's taller than his brother, he doesn't have the elite top-end speed ($) that characterized Jordan in high school, though after all the leg injuries the gap probably isn't as wide as it was, though Jordan has now regained most of his speed from high school.

Despite that issue, there's a reason Shipley comes in at 11 on the latest 2011 LSR and it's not because of his older brother -- it's because he's an excellent football player in his own right and exceptionally polished for a receiver his age.

Horns_bullet_mediumCotton no Taylor Bible. That much is probably obvious given the discrepancy in hype surrounding the two Texas defensive tackle commits for 2010, but what is slightly less obvious is that not being Bible isn't such a bad thing or even a condemnation of Cotton and his skills. Even though Alief Taylor defensive tackle and Texas commit De'Aires Cotton isn't as explosive into the backfield as Bible or even the other defensive tackle commit, Tyler's Ashton Dorsey, since he has a different skill set, he's a good fit in this recruiting class. In fact, he's probably a perfect fit next to the two more explosive players.

What Cotton does extremely well is hold his position ($) despite facing constant double teams. He's extremely thickly built, with a little bit of bad weight around his midsection, but not much -- he also possesses a significant amount of raw strength that allows him to generally maintain his position even with poor technique, often coming off the ball high and failing to keep his feet moving on contact, a common problem for high school defensive tackles. In college, that will be a problem for him -- he'll get pushed off the line of scrimmage almost immediately. Explosiveness off the ball is also an area for improvement if he wants to be a three-down defensive tackle for Will Muschamp and excel in pass-rushing situations.

Cotton is not the gap-shooting type of defensive tackle, like Bible, but he does separate well from offensive linemen by using his hands, while also displaying the type of motor coaches like to see in their linemen -- he doesn't give up on plays or have trouble pursuing because he carries too much weight.

Howe compares Cotton to Roy Miller because of his ability to hold a gap and take on multiple offensive linemen, but a better comparison might be a taller, more physically gifted Ben Alexander because Cotton projects as a run stuffer in college, much like Alexander. To me, the Miller comparison just doesn't work because Miller was far more than just a run stuffer -- he had the ability to consistently get into the backfield and cause havoc.

Both Bible and Dorsey might be able to contribute next year as true freshmen, but Cotton will probably need a year or two in the program to work on his explosiveness and better understand how to come off the ball low and keep his feet moving to collapse the pocket back on quarterbacks, the main priority for Muschamp defensive tackles in passing situations. In the end, though, Cotton should eventually take up the blockers to allow Bible and Dorsey to shoot gaps next to him and get into the backfield to disrupt plays.

Horns_bullet_mediumCould Tech ever land a running back like Sims? Abilene running back Herschel Sims attended his second Texas Tech football game ($) of the season last weekend, watching the Red Raiders inexplicably lose to the Aggies. Just like many of Colt McCoy's friends from Tuscola ended up in Lubbock, many of Sims' classmates and friends will become index-finger waving Raiders.

Sims didn't exactly gush about the visit, noting that Tech runs the ball "occasionally," but that he thinks highly of the coaches. Given the fact that Leach is prone to abandoning the running game and only runs several running plays anyway given all the receivers in the offense, what are the chances that an incredibly talented back like Sims could end up in Lubbock?

To this point in Leach's tenure at Tech, the answer is that the chances probably aren't good. Leach managed to use Baron Batch effectively last season, but has once again gone back to passing almost every play. No doubt Eric Stephens and Harrison Jeffers will suffere similar neglect as their careers progress.

Running backs want carries. In the case of larger backs, they absolutely need carries to wear down the defense. Sims, however, probably fits the mold of an ideal Red Raider running back better than most -- he's so quick that he can make defenses pay on draw plays and particularly screens, and his receiving ability would allow Leach to line him up as a receiver and use him with another running back in Tech's two-back sets.

Unfortunately for Leach, as well as Sims would fit in his system -- if he could commit to the running game more than "occasionally" -- the top two teams for Sims are Texas and Oklahoma, teams that he watched go against each other ($) in the Cotton Bowl:

Just being there actually was amazing. It was a great feeling. The atmosphere was great. It was a good game and good place to be.

I was going back and forth. They're both good teams. I really wasn't going for a certain one in particular. They're both great teams. I just wanted to see a good game.

So despite the recent visits to Austin, the Sooners and Longhorns are still going back and forth in the mind of the talented running back. From his earlier comments ($), his appreciation for Adrian Peterson, a running back to whom he compares himself in running hard every play, is a big factor in the feelings that he has for Oklahoma -- just another indication of how much losing Peterson has hurt the Longhorns in recruiting running backs and how much it continues to be a problem for them. It's probably safe to say that Peterson accounts for a lot of the positive feelings that Malcolm Brown and Bradley Marquez have for Oklahoma as well.

In that way, it's unfortunate that the perceptions of the OU-Texas rivalry were what they were at the time, leading Peterson to head to Norman for an opportunity to win that crystal football. And this is where I once again catch myself day-dreaming of how ridiculously unfair it would have been for AD and VY to have been in the same backfield running the zone read. And no, I'm not crying right now, I was just cutting some onions for dinner.

Horns_bullet_mediumFrom the Land of Miscellany. Jordan Hicks did not make it to Alabama last weekend and still has not scheduled a visit to USC, saying that he is focusing right now on finishing his football season. Hicks said that he has no favorite, but it's hard not to believe that the Longhorns are in a great position with him...Dulles safety Sheroid Evans injured his shoulder ($) and left last weekend's game against Fort Bend Elkins, but was able to attend the OU-Texas game. He says that he does not have any favorites ($), but does want to run track in college, citing Texas, LSU, and Texas A&M as three programs that have good track and football programs. Evans added that he would like the major in engineering...Lancaster linebacker Trey Brown has moved up the 2011 LSR recently, going from his debut position of 48th to 25th on the latest edition. He also revealed that his father went to Oklahoma ($) and says he might become a Sooner if he lands an offer from Oklahoma, but said that he's always been a fan of Texas Tech and that his mother wants him to go to Texas for the education. Despite the feelings of his mother, Brown did not list Texas among his favorites, a list that included Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech, and Oregon. It's probably going to be an uphill battle for Brown if Texas chooses to pursue him.

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Do you think Goodwin’s success helps us with other guys that want to do both football and track?

by billb on Oct 29, 2009 8:50 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Imagine it would.

I think it certainly sets up a blueprint and shows that if you can come in and learn quickly, the summer workouts aren’t absolutely necessary to play in the fall.

As for whether it will actually make a difference, obviously Evans will be an interesting test case, as he’s likely to be a target, perhaps the top target at safety in 2011.

by GhostofBigRoy on Oct 29, 2009 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Charles helped

Charles eventually chose to quit track to concentrate on football, but he showed that one can balance it.

by burntorangehorn on Oct 29, 2009 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

A. Peterson effect on Texas

I have thought about this a lot and personally I think Peterson going to Oklahoma is the reason we won a National Title. I don’t think M.Brown would have ever converted to our most explosive offense with V.Young had Peterson been in the backfield. I think he would have stuck with a little spread and most of the time running out of the I formation. I think we would have been power running team. I just don’t think Brown would have ever left it to Young to make make big plays. Who knows really but not having that power back allowed Young to mature into the best spread QB ever to play college football.

by TXHorns on Oct 29, 2009 8:58 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

+1 TXHorns

I will never look back at “what we lost” in a recruit again. Our succes has totally been based on what we do with what we have. The Mack Brown/VY epiphany was crucial to our current status as one of the elite top 5, and arguably top 3 programs in the country. If we as Orangebloods owe anything of great measure to VY it was his ability to talk the staff into letting the guys play. Not so sure that happens with Peterson here.

These kids are great athlete’s and when we let them compete, play, and have fun, then they are unstoppable. I think Demarco Murray had the same Peterson type aspirations when he was recruitied. Recruits need to see that Muschamp owns Bob Stoops.

The real upside though is the depth of RB’s in the 2011 class. Herschel Sims, Aaron Green, Malcolm Brown, Joe Bergeron, Quandre Diggs just to name a few. They can’t all go to Norman and I want the ones who want to be here. I don’t see both Brown and Sims comitting to ou. Green still looks like Nebraska unless Pellini totaly implodes, which is possible.

Who is showing the most interest of the 2011 class in your estimation GoBR?

by orangetower on Oct 29, 2009 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It'd be hilarious if several of those RBs went to OU

It’d be like the paralysis that resulted from the logjam at USC.

by burntorangehorn on Oct 29, 2009 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Probably Bergeron and Sims right now

But it’s hard to say with Brown and Green because they haven’t been traveling much, so it’s not worth making too many predictions about them right now except that Texas probably has some ground to make up with both of them. Bergeron looks likely right now to end up at Texas and Sims is 50/50. I think Diggs probably ends up on defense, but I guess he could stay at running back. I haven’t seen any film on him yet, so I’m not sure how he looks there, but I know he’s fast.

by GhostofBigRoy on Oct 29, 2009 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting Point TXHorns

I still have to think Peterson and Young would have been just impossible to defend.

by realmccoy on Oct 29, 2009 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Totally agree

While i am obviously not upset at all about how it went down, i dont think any college defense would have been able to stop a Young/Peterson combo in the backfield.

by shaqui chan on Oct 29, 2009 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Friend of mine meet Case and says he has a bigger frame than he remembered Colt having and that he appears taller.

I wouldn’t be surpised if TT did land their best RB in years, this is a bumper crop of RBs and I wouldn’t be suprised if 2 or 3 we let get away (cuz we can’t take them all) give us fits in the future.

by echeese on Oct 29, 2009 9:56 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

PS

I’ll share this as I actually have 1 source you could call “an insider”.

Right now, it’s Hicks/Jeffcoat or bust. He thinks we’ll take those two (White’s done but if he commits we would take him too) or shut down for next year.

by echeese on Oct 29, 2009 10:48 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Scout's showing Dixon as a non-commit right now

I haven’t heard of any decommitment, but I do wonder whether or not the coaches would be inclined to accept him back if he were to reconsider.

by burntorangehorn on Oct 29, 2009 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Probably

It’s not like he pulled a McFarland. I’d rather accept him than Seastrunk at this point.

by burntorangehorn on Oct 29, 2009 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

depends on the kid, if he’s a douchebag personality that is only going to hurt the team i wouldn’t take him, even if he’s a 6* talent.

if he’s a kid who simply pulled the trigger too soon, had buyers remorse, got coerced into committing to baylor by friends and family…. then i’m down with accepting him if he really wants to come.

by Displaced Longhorn on Oct 29, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dixon's smartest move would've been to just "re-open" his recruitment

To my limited knowledge, the kid hasn’t been negative about Texas at all, so I’d consider that neutral at worst if he were to notify the coaches that he’s still interested. By de-committing from UT and committing to Baylor, it comes off a bit rushed, so I do wonder if there might have been family factors at work. But I think it would make sense to keep an open mind and tell him to take his time before announcing another commitment.

by burntorangehorn on Oct 29, 2009 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would take him back...

But I read somewhere (maybe Barking Carnival) that Dixon was told by the coaches if he decommitted he was burning a bridge and wouldn’t be given a second chance. I was disappointed when I heard that because I would have still taken him back so long as he didn’t do or say anything negative or come back with a street agent in hand.

by Rickyspub on Oct 29, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dixon is associating with folks we want no part of which sucks since he is a stud.

I’d think he needs to “burn a few bridges” on his end to even be considered.

by echeese on Oct 29, 2009 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What folks?

I haven’t heard anything about this.

by burntorangehorn on Oct 29, 2009 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's been hanging out

with the Temple running back and his friends. They met at a camp and then Dixon de-committed from Texas shortly after that.

by GhostofBigRoy on Oct 29, 2009 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Based on stuff you've heard, I take it?

I would believe you if you said you’d heard things on it, sure. I was just curious if there was any specific information about Dixon that would indicate that the bridge is beyond repair.

by burntorangehorn on Oct 29, 2009 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can't recall specifics right now.

But I do remember hearing that the Texas staff was pretty much done with him when he de-committed. I think he was a little bit slow in informing them and the coaches didn’t care for that. I mentioned this recently and I don’t care to find the link again, but the kid keeps saying that he’s 100% committed somewhere and then changes his mind a month or two later. That’s not very trustworthy.

by GhostofBigRoy on Oct 29, 2009 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nope, not trustworthy, but I understand...

…some kids feel the pressure to commit, when in fact their personalities are more suited to waiting until signing day, when they can make a real, ultimate commitment on where to play/attend.

by burntorangehorn on Oct 29, 2009 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pressure

I think he certainly felt pressure from his parents to go to Texas, or at least there are rumblings in that direction. As for pressure from the coaching staff at Texas, I don’t think there is any way to know that. But, yes, considering how this recruiting saga has gone for Dixon, it would have made more sense for him to have waited, in the case of committing to Texas and in the case of committing to Baylor.

by GhostofBigRoy on Oct 29, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nepotism

You really think Texas recruits Case if bro wasn’t at Texas. I question Florida’s interest.

by hunghorn on Oct 29, 2009 2:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Can't completely rule it out

Texas didn’t take him simply because of his brother, but keep in mind that both Davis and Brown have known Case for some time and they know what type of person he is, they know how well he understands the game, and they can make reasonable projections about where he will be in several years because of knowing him for so long and seeing first hand the trajectory and improvements of his brother.

by GhostofBigRoy on Oct 29, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I might see it if he were the only QB taken...

or if we gave him a GG promise to be the only QB in the class, but we picked him up to compete with what looks to be one of the best QBs in the state, so I think his selection goes beyond pure nepotism.

by Rickyspub on Oct 30, 2009 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don'y think y'all missed anything by not having AD with Vince

Vince worked best out of the shotgun; AD worked best out of the I. OU tried to use AD running fromt he shotgun, but he struggled. They ended up lining him up 7 yds behind the LOS, which is I-back depth, roughly 1X3 off the QB in the shotgun, so he could get a head start running the ball.

He would not have done well in texas’ zone running game with Young.

by Beergut on Oct 29, 2009 11:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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