Vince Young To Start Against Jaguars
by Peter Bean on Oct 29, 2009 3:36 PM CDT
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Not to be a Debbie Downer, but....
Pacman Jones looked pretty good, too.
by Eskimohorn on Oct 29, 2009 3:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Your new blog name is Deborah
You ain't hurt.
by Peter Bean on Oct 29, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right. Deb for short.
"We don't freestyle Texas Fight, big boy." - Coach Brown
by TXStampede on Oct 29, 2009 5:54 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know if this is even a good situation for him
What has changed? Fisher is still the Jim Tressel of the NFL. The defense is worse, their receivers are only a little better than what Vince had before, their O-line is not as good as advertised, and the playcalling has been curious. I of course hope he succeeds, but it is very likely that he simply goes out with a sucky team and they still stay sucky, and he’s going to be booed and receive all sorts of media hate for not saving a season that is already in the tank.
by TheElusiveShadow on Oct 29, 2009 3:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The general consensus is that...
No, it’s not a good situation. It’s terrible in fact. But hey, freedom is just another word for nothin’ left to lose.
by TXinDC on Oct 29, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He is certainly not in a position to succeed this year
It seems almost like he’s being put in a position to be thrown under the bus eventually by Jeff Fisher because the owner forced him into the move. They won last year because of their defense and run game. Now that they’ve lost the defense it’s quite clear their lack of attention to the WR corps over the last few years is just killing them.
by 40AS on Oct 29, 2009 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lets all just be honest here
vy is just not that good in the nfl
there are about 7-8 very good/great qb’s in the league, and the rest kinda stink, that is the only reason people arent laughing him outta the nfl. yes, the man did good a couple of years ago, but ill be darned if he makes it 2 more years professionally. i love the man, but jeez, i thought he would be better in the nfl than this. at least hes better than jarmarcus… barely
"We'll be baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!"
by greenspointexas on Oct 29, 2009 4:09 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Yes, but the question is
How much of this is due to circumstance?
1) He’s had no support on the offense
2) The offensive playcalling has been horrible
3) 1 & 2 helped create some confidence/mental issues
I’m not saying you’re wrong. I truly want him to succeed and prove his doubters wrong. But at some point, in order for him to succeed, he needs to be provided with enough weapons for success.
by GoHorns on Oct 29, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a little of both...
My friends, it’s not all on Vince. At the same time, Peyton Manning he is not. Right now, he’s not even Kyle Orton, who is winning a lot these days. Watching those clips above it’s apparent he can make throws and dodge some tackles, but defenses got wise and adjusted by year 2. He needs to show marked improvement in making his reads, putting the ball in the right place and breaking down defenses.
That said, the Tressel to Fisher comparison couldn’t be better. It seems more obvious every week that Fisher was not the one who pulled the trigger on drafting Vince. This team’s offense just isn’t one that Vince can thrive in. Is there one he can thrive in at the pro-level? I’m not sure, but I’d like to find out by seeing a team give him a chance that has a creative mind calling the shots on offense and designing plays. Also, it’d be nice for him to have one elite WR who will catch the ball that’s thrown to him. Vince’s throws aren’t that great, but if he had a good receiver that could go up and make the difficult catch, who knows? Maybe his confidence spikes, his passes get better.
With everything in me I hope he succeeds. I will never, ever stop rooting for Vince Young.
Hook 'em.
by 4th and 5 on Oct 29, 2009 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
exaxctly!!!
I disagree that VY is washed up.
If you look at those videos you see what type of play calling makes VY successful, roll him out left or right, give him medium to short crossing routs and if it breaks down he can run. the games I saw him in in pre-season they tried to make him stay in the pocket and read three or four routes and he’s just NOT that kind of QB. you can’t make him one…a smart OC would realize that and run the kind of offense that works for him…heck if someone was willing to go with the Wild Cat for a team without a QB they could trust and put it all in the hands of their RB’s why can’t they dust off the plays that worked back then for VY and run them some more? Couldn’t hurt could it? I’m starting Scafie as my fantasy TE this weekend just to prove it IS possible!!! ;-)
by longhornJ on Oct 29, 2009 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
cedric benson wasnt that good in chicago
by the other Andrew on Oct 29, 2009 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love you so much right now
"I live in the tower with Coach Brown." -Bevo
by run Bevo run on Oct 29, 2009 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's 18-11 as a starter
And before you cite their defense, which admittedly was a big part of their wins his second year, he went 9-4 his first year after they started horrendously without him playing.
by 40AS on Oct 29, 2009 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey fellas, it's just bidness.
It’s not like he is playing for a national championship. Dude makes his quan regardless.
"We don't freestyle Texas Fight, big boy." - Coach Brown
by TXStampede on Oct 29, 2009 5:56 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Call me crazy
but I think he is going to do well in the games he plays
by Crimson Fog on Oct 29, 2009 6:19 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for the best memories, PB
It’s really a shame to see the organization has done nothing but a horrible job to build around VY and let him to be a successful QB. Regardless, I will always support VY. He has talent and a very good football player not just on the field but off the field as well. I still hate the fact that Reggie Bush has stole that Heisman from VY.
Anyway, I’m glad that he got another chance to be a starting QB again. I have faith in VY and he will lead the Titans to beat Jaguars this Sunday.
Always Hook’em!
by Horns98 on Oct 29, 2009 6:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The greatest heros face the greatest challenges.
We’ll see.
by whills on Oct 29, 2009 7:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
all i have to say is take away jeff saturday and the entire colts line, then change the offense to a wildcat and let peyton try and be successful! im not saying vy is on peyton’s level, but all of the great qb’s are in an offense thats plays to their abilites, so let vy get an offense simular to what he had at UT and i promise at least one superbowl in 3years(take that to the bank and cash it!).
All I want for Christmas is for Texas to move to the SEC and destroy those overrated chumps!!!
by OkcityHornFan on Oct 29, 2009 8:06 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
He has confidence issues that will prevent him from ever being a great QB in the NFL. Run the zone read in the NFL and he will be injured after 4 games. He ran a 4.5 at the combine. In college he was a better athlete than anyone he saw on defense. not so in the NFL. Watching his games makes me think his WRs hate him. They drop more catchable passes from him than from any QB I’ve seen.
by miketag on Oct 29, 2009 9:21 PM CDT via mobile reply actions 0 recs
haha..
..on the last sentence. It does SEEM like that, but in truth, they’re just not good, b/c they do that w/ Collins sometimes. I hope Britt continues to develop, but he might have to rely on Scaife, and C. Johnson.
by vy til i die on Oct 30, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
C'mon Peter
You post Vince Young in the pros videos and leave out “Vince vs. Hoge”? I still get 5 comments on it a week about how Vince sucks and Hoge was right. I agree with Crimson Frog; you can’t put Vince in a win or lose situation without having him outperform everyone’s expectations. Vince just wins.
by aorist9 on Oct 29, 2009 9:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I have to come up for air every once in a while.
I’m just praying Vince gives me enough footage to make a whole new video.
by aorist9 on Oct 29, 2009 11:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bring it back
Hope all’s well, man. Tim McGhee says hi.
You ain't hurt.
by Peter Bean on Oct 29, 2009 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
btw...just a little advice VY
you might want to leave the iPod at home this week…!
by longhornJ on Oct 29, 2009 10:09 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Suspicions
I wonder whether Adams is making Fisher start Young now so he will fail. Then when the Titans trade him away, they can say to their fans that he had his chance.
Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.
by Caradoc on Oct 30, 2009 9:23 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
you might be on the right track
VY has a $4.2 million bonus coming up in march.
if he tanks Adams saves the dough and sends him kicking stones,
if he plays well and the titans win about 10,000 butts in the stands for the last games will cover the bonus.
by Xerxes on Oct 30, 2009 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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