Saturday Bye Week Afternoon Open Thread
by billyzane on Oct 3, 2009 12:19 PM CDT
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PrintNot a ton of good early afternoon games (though Kentucky is giving Alabama a game in the first half so far), but they pick up at 2:30 with Georgia vs. LSU, Jake Locker vs. Notre Dame, and, uh, Florida State at BC? Really that's all we got? Oh well, at least the night games are good. Comment away, and enjoy the bye week.
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Greg McElroy is looking like an SEC quarterback this week.
3 of 8 for 4 yards. It’s gotta be that stout Kentucky defense that gave up 41 points to Florida and 27 to Louisville!
Upset Alert: Alabama - Kentucky
Alabama went up 7-0 before the game even started, but they’re only up 7-6 now. Alabama went 3 and out their last 6 possessions.
In-VINCE-able.
Dish has it on 447 in Houston
In-VINCE-able.
by iamjackburton on Oct 3, 2009 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't think so.
Maybe on Fox Sports regional coverage. But here in NYC, I’m currently getting Sacred Heart at Central Connecticut State. I wish I was kidding. One side of the field doesn’t have bleachers. It’s just a soccer field behind the sideline. It’s smaller than my high school stadium. By a lot.
Isn't Sacred Heart the hospital from Scrubs?
I didn’t know they had a football team. They must really suck if Zach Braff plays.
That's nice.
I’m getting NY Islanders coverage after this game. But I think I can get by just watching LSU/Georgia at 3:30.
that is criminal...seriously
"Stats are for losers. I like winning games." - Will Muschamp
by Mulliganville on Oct 3, 2009 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions
I've got it on one of the other channels.
NY has like 14 local sports channels and on Saturdays when the pro sports teams aren’t playing, they pick up random college football games. Usually I get a Big 12 game and a bunch of sub-D1 games/Big East games. This week, I was lucky to get the Bama/Kentucky game, but didn’t get any Big 12 games. It’ll hold me over until the 3:30 national games.
Made this comment last week during the UT game thread . . .
and it probably got lost.
What a suckee job the Big 12 has done with its TV contract. I’m in Houston and I get more Big Ten and SEC games than I do Big 12. It’s easier to see Purdue than it is the Aggies, Kentucky than Nebraska.
I understand it’s dollars, and viewing windows, and the schools are involved and all of that. But it seems to me the Big 12 is letting two major rival conferences get a ton of TV exposure in markets that ought to offer Big 12 alternatives. I’m no Aggie fan, and I know they were 4-8 last year, but I haven’t seen an Aggie game yet this season. (Today’s is on, of course.)
It’s too late for the Big 12 to become bedfellows with ESPN (the SEC got that), but the league NEEDS to start its own network and aggressively market games onto low-budget, non-network TV stations in Houston, Dallas, OKC, St. Louis, Denver, etc.
by edsp on Oct 3, 2009 1:11 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Part of it is the product the Big 12 puts out on the field.
Name one Big 12 game this week that you want to see (OOC games with the Big 12 team on the road don’t fall under the Big 12 TV contract). There was a decent article over at Barking Carnival about this issue: here. The best Big 12 game this week is 0-4 New Mexico at Texas Tech. No one wants to televise these Big 12 games because no one wants to watch them.
Dont you think A&M Ark is a bit better than TT NM??? Im just sayin'
"Stats are for losers. I like winning games." - Will Muschamp
by Mulliganville on Oct 3, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Doesn't count as a Big 12 game because Arkansas is technically the home team.
So its not under the purview of the Big 12 TV contract.
I see...Jerrah's spaceship confused me.
"Stats are for losers. I like winning games." - Will Muschamp
by Mulliganville on Oct 3, 2009 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Understand all this
and I’m not referring to this week; too many teams off this week.
I’m not saying Ch. 55 in Houston shouldn’t show SEC games; I’m glad they had LSU-Miss. St. last week — but because the Big 12 has no network, that station had no Big 12 game to choose from. They showed Big Ten Network the last year or two, replaced that with SEC.
Don’t know what other cities/cable operations have available channel-wise, but the larger cities have stations showing ’70s sitcom reruns and informercials and canned programming of the lowest level; Aggies, Baylor, Kansas, Nebraska games could go on instead — if those were available.
Just saying’ — gonna be harder for Michigan and Alabama to recruit in Texas if their TV appearances don’t outnumber those of Texas universities.
The problem is that the conference doesn’t seem to work with the teams much. This could involve setting a conference standard that outlines a maximum number of FCS/Div.II opponent, maximum non-BCS opponents (exceptions could be made for teams like Utah or Boise State if scheduled when that team has recently achieved a certain ranking) a school can play each season. This could also be incentivized (a bigger share of the pie for scheduling higher-quality opponents) instead of enforced punitively.
Perhaps more realistically, the conference could work with the schools to arrange so that non-conference matchups of any consequence (Iowa-Iowa State, Missouri-Illinois, Texas/a2m-Ark, etc.) don’t all fall in the same week, so those could serve as the non-conference games that would boost the overall product in weeks like this one. There are twelve teams; there’s no excuse for there being zero home BCS vs. BCS games for the conference this week. Instead, require conference coordination to make sure that, for instance, the CU-WV series alternates with the OUsucks-Miami series such that it’s CU@WV and Miami@OUsucks one year, and WV@CU and OUsucks@Miami the next.
by burntorangehorn on Oct 3, 2009 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions
weird...
I live in Mission Viejo, CA and I always get the Big 12 here. The Horns are always on…always.
"Stats are for losers. I like winning games." - Will Muschamp
by Mulliganville on Oct 3, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes, but they wouldn't have been if Mackovic was still producing 7-4 teams
My point isn’t about Texas; as a perennial Top 10 team, Texas is on a lot of places and most of the time. It’s not about seeing Ohio State and Penn State and Georgia . . . it’s about seeing Northwestern and South Carolina and NOT SEEING many Baylor and Kansas and A&M games.
Granted, it gets better with the Astros out of the way (FSN ties up 1-2 time blocks weekly that could go to Big 12 games). But there are station/cable alternatives; without a Big 12 network, way too many games don’t get shown in markets that would benefit Big 12 members and their followers.
Virginia Tech not looking good at all
only up 20-16 @ Duke
by goingforthecorner on Oct 3, 2009 1:38 PM CDT reply actions
Bound to happen
after that big win over the U. Always happens. They’re just kids after all.
In-VINCE-able.
by iamjackburton on Oct 3, 2009 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions
TD finally scored in the oldest rivalry in the south
UVA looks like they’re going to run away from UNC at UNC. UVA might not be able to beat anyone else, but they’ve won something like 8 out of 9 against UNC.
That has to be really embarrassing, losing to the team that lost to William and Mary. W&M isn’t bad for their level of competition, but man, UVA really sucks this year.
by burntorangehorn on Oct 3, 2009 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I really don’t want to like Forcier. I really don’t. But the kid is absolutely pumping icewater through his veins when he’s running the 2min. drill. He may or may not tie up this game against Michigan State, but seriously, he’s escaping, inventing, scrambling, and generally carrying his team to another potential comeback.
Great player so far.
And Forcier leads the comeback
Looks like this is going to OT
by goingforthecorner on Oct 3, 2009 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions
….and he connects for the touchdown. Tie on the pending extra point.
by burntorangehorn on Oct 3, 2009 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions
And then he’s picked in traffic in the endzone in OT. Michigan pulls off the win on an amazing Larry Caper TD run.
by burntorangehorn on Oct 3, 2009 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually, I wanted State to win, so I’m glad he did.
by burntorangehorn on Oct 3, 2009 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Come on, let's give Forcier
some slacks. He just a freshmen. What he did on the last drive(in raining) is pretty good except that last second pick. Down 6-20. He has rallied from behind to tie the game and almost able to win the game in OT…Not bad at all…
Slack?
Did you not read my initial comment?
by burntorangehorn on Oct 3, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions
The Northwestern-Purdue finish is looking pretty exciting as well. Purdue was up big, the momentum turned on a thrown pick by Elliott from his own 2, NU took the lead with a couple minutes left, and Purdue has brought it back down to the NU 4 with 15sec. remaining. 3rd and goal.
Damn, came up short. NU takes over on downs with 3sec. left.
by burntorangehorn on Oct 3, 2009 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Nick Saban is classy like Vegas. Nothing like having your punter fake it to keep that critical drive alive when you’re up three scores with 3:30 remaining.
And then he goes for it again, attempting to pass the ball for a touchdown with about a minute to go.
by burntorangehorn on Oct 3, 2009 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Florida's victory over....
…Kentucky (41-7) certainly was more convincing than that of Bama (38-20). Kentucky scored 4 times on Bama, while they had the single TD vs. Florida.
--- All roads to the Big-XII Championship lead through OU/RRS. It's not just another game! We're all about championships here. ---
Georgia coverage D
is gonna have a long day unless they wake up
Your tongue can't repel flavor of that magnitude!!
Shhhhhhhh!
Don’t question Ess Eee See defense.
by burntorangehorn on Oct 3, 2009 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Russell Shepard gets in the game.
Runs some zone read with Trindon Holiday. Looks pretty good on first 2 carries.
Billy, thanks for open this thread..
but do you know if we will have a new thread for OU/Miami game tonight? No matter what, OU still sucks!!!
I'll put one up for the night games, sure.
Some good ones tonight. In addition to Miami/OU, there’s Cal/USC, Auburn/Tennessee and A&M/Arkansas. Solid slate. I wish one of them had been on at noon and another now so I could watch them all. Going to be some furious channel flipping, laptop watching, and picture-in-picturing going on.
Tech and New Mexico tied
Can we all agree that if Tech has any kind of lead with 0:01 left before halftime, it will be perfectly acceptable for their fans to rush the field? Twice?
Potts has looked horrific
It’s like he doesn’t know what’s happening. He only had one throw at the start that was decent, and that was all the receiver doing the work.
In-VINCE-able.
by iamjackburton on Oct 3, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Potts just threw....
…. a certain TD pass, though Britton let drop to the carpet.
--- All roads to the Big-XII Championship lead through OU/RRS. It's not just another game! We're all about championships here. ---
yeah that looked like his best pass all day
In-VINCE-able.
by iamjackburton on Oct 3, 2009 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Clausen just completely flubbed a lateral to Allen…returned by lil’ Trufant for a touchdown.
I did the Nelson “ha ha.”
i got washington as +13 dogs heh heh
In-VINCE-able.
by iamjackburton on Oct 3, 2009 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions
I don’t bet, but it looks like it’s almost always a good idea to take the points against them.
by burntorangehorn on Oct 3, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions
This is an awful early Saturday so far
Watching LSU lead UGA 6-0 at halftime is worse than pulling teeth. Penn St. vs Illinois is just as bad, and FSN doesnt have Tech on because the shitty Astros are in a rain delay. At least Whisky vs Minny Soda was decent enough to watch.
Get off your knees Greg, you're blowin' the game.
Rain let up here in NY.
game should resume soon. glad i went to last night’s mets/astros instead of today’s.
Yup. Iowa, as in #13 Iowa, slips by ArkansasSt. by 3, 24-21.
--- All roads to the Big-XII Championship lead through OU/RRS. It's not just another game! We're all about championships here. ---
yeah, just imagine
beating Arkansas State by only one score.
Tech is sucking
It is 7-7 with a minute to go to half. NM has ball. I think Tech has a few int. and a fumble.
Tech game is on Fox Sports SW
On ATT Uverse it is 1753 which is FoxSports DA and it is also on SA. Don’t know how I get them…but I see what you mean that FoxSports HO which must mean Houston has the stros delay. Maybe you get one of the other Fox Sports chanels.
Mich. State win over Mich in overtime
was the only excitment I’ve had today. That was pretty good comeback since Mich was putting the make on them.
Mike Leach stubbornly refuses to acknowledge that Batch needs 15-20 carries out of the backfield
At least, if Tech wants to play to their current strengths
proud to swim home
Our at least 20 Shannon-Woods-like “carries”—that is, screens from the pocket.
by burntorangehorn on Oct 3, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions
A little surprised nobody rushed the field
And the Taylor Potts era may already be over. R.I.P. mustache. We hardly knew you.
Georgia Defense
Came out big in second half. Three sacks in a row.
Punt Formation
What are the disadvantages of the “new” spread punt formation that teams use? It seems there is rarely pressure on punter.
Why is Fox showing me
Nats vs. Braves when the Twins are playing against Grienke for a playoff spot. They really don’t want me to watch baseball I guess.
I’ve wondered the same thing about the dopes who say “You can’t coach speed.”
Ehm…so why do so many speed coaches have jobs?
by burntorangehorn on Oct 3, 2009 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Officials a little ridiculious with unsportsman like conduct
"I live in the tower with Coach Brown." -Bevo
Sheffield
New QB is looking good for Tech. It is UNM, but still it looks like normal tech offense.
Iowa St
Loses game on missed extra point. Perfect ending to toilet bowl.
Grounding
The CBS announcers keep talking about having to get outside the tackle box. The ball was within a couple of yards of a receiver. It’s not grounding if it’s near a receiver, right? Am I crazy?
Washington D
worse
Disciplina Praesidium Civitatis.
doesn't look like a controversy to me. sheff looks like he's gonna be the man.
3/19/2009 - Dogus Balbay Made a Three-Pointer. Never Forget.
What year is Sheff?
And how heavily was he recruited?
I can’t find him on the commitment lists, so he may have been a walk-on.
by burntorangehorn on Oct 3, 2009 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions
maybe pulled out of the stands?
3/19/2009 - Dogus Balbay Made a Three-Pointer. Never Forget.
Probably just a dump Leach took one spring, like most of the 4000-yd. passers he pulls out of his arse.
by burntorangehorn on Oct 3, 2009 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Damn dude. BC coughs up the KR after FSU’s touchdown to tie. Sucks!
And ND stops Locker on successive goal-line dives. I’m going to be pissed if the Huskies drop this one. A FG would’ve put them up eight.
And ’Lil Trufant makes another great play!
Hope the Chiefs draft him…in 2012.
by burntorangehorn on Oct 3, 2009 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I think it was a bit too early to definitely go for 3 there.
Different than Mike Leach’s gamble. You have jake locker on the 6 inch line and a 5 point lead, I think that was a good call to try and make it 2 scores. Debatable, certainly.
Guess that’s true. I had flipped away to another game for a sec, and for some reason I was thinking it was further into the game.
by burntorangehorn on Oct 3, 2009 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Same thing for the Huskies
Why would they go for 4th and goal with more than a whole quarter left???
4th and 6 inches is different than any old 4th and goal.
It’s debatable, but I think the odds are in favor of going for it being the better play. If you get that 2/3 of the time (which I bet is about right), then the possibility of going up 12 with a quarter to go to me outweighs the definite going up 8 with a quarter to go.
Oh, my bad, I didn't know it was 6 inches that short
But now they lost the game. If they kick that FG, Irish may not have a chance for OT. Anyway, Huskies has their chance to put this game away.
hindsight's certainly 20/20.
Probably the wrong call in retrospect, but I thought it was a good call at the time.
2nd time Shepard came on for a quick play
and LSU had to call a timeout. Is he a little slow upstairs? I know he’s fast downstairs.
that's what she said.
3/19/2009 - Dogus Balbay Made a Three-Pointer. Never Forget.
LSU on the goalline late in the 4th.
3/19/2009 - Dogus Balbay Made a Three-Pointer. Never Forget.
The much-hyped Charles Scott gets his first touchdown run on the season.
by burntorangehorn on Oct 3, 2009 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions
SEC Two minute drill
Offensive coordinators are forced to throw more than twice a drive.
Really impressed with the UW running back.
Either that or ND’s tackling is god awful. Maybe a bit of both.
He’s a solid back. UW lost both him and Locker for most of last season, and that’s the main reason they were so putrid.
He’s definitely a talent. The line isn’t blocking that well, but he’s been breaking some tackles the whole season.
by burntorangehorn on Oct 3, 2009 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions
YEAH! Touchdown Polk. He’s playing well in this weather, which I guess makes sense for a guy who plays ball in Seattle.
by burntorangehorn on Oct 3, 2009 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Ugh, bad review by the refs. He had the ball in his right arm, and it looks like it broke the plane. I could understand if they had originally called it down before the goal line, but they called it a touchdown, and there was nowhere near enough evidence to overturn whatever the on-field call was.
by burntorangehorn on Oct 3, 2009 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions
They need the 2 point conversion here to make sure a FG doesn't beat them.
Huge mistake on the unsportsmanlike.
I think so.
But, either way they needed a FG so they took the yardage.
Replay
Wasn’t even questionable. Just bad call.
He just dropped it after
the jump hip bump.
Players need to learn you really can't celebrate at all this year
It’s been happening in every game.
I’m still disgusted that Chykie got called for the face-shielding.
by burntorangehorn on Oct 3, 2009 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions
What's happening in the ND game?
If you're so sure of what it ain't, how about telling us what it am!
UW’s running play after play at or near the goal line, and ends up down inside the 1 every damn time.
They had one play that looked like a touchdown, but the refs took it off the board after the review. Said the runner’s knee was down.
They just did about their 10th Locker sneak inside the 1, and it failed, so they’re kicking the FG on 4th down.
by burntorangehorn on Oct 3, 2009 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions
i know right?
and what is the deal with these unsportsmanlike conduct penalties? Can teams not celebrate at all any more?
If you're so sure of what it ain't, how about telling us what it am!
What a TD run
gut-wrenching loss for GA. They’ll be talking about that unsportsmanlike penalty all week.
by goingforthecorner on Oct 3, 2009 5:55 PM CDT reply actions
FG for Washington, ahead 27-22; 3 minutes left
by goingforthecorner on Oct 3, 2009 5:57 PM CDT reply actions
UW goal line stand
Took like 6 minutes off the clock!?!/
Charles Scott couldn’t muster a single touchdown rush against Washington, Vanderbilt, Louisiana-Lafayette, or Mississippi State, but he gets two against Georgia.
Man, Richt’s defense is overrated.
How do you like Ciron Black so far? I actually was thinking that pass rush was costing him some money.
by burntorangehorn on Oct 3, 2009 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions
He's more a name than anything
His improvement over the last few years seems minimal.
proud to swim home
I'm guessing the winner of Fla/LSU
will be the #1 ranked team after next week’s poll. I could see LSU jumping us because they’ve had better wins thus far.
by goingforthecorner on Oct 3, 2009 6:01 PM CDT reply actions
if alabama hasn't jumped us, I don't see why lsu would.
3/19/2009 - Dogus Balbay Made a Three-Pointer. Never Forget.
If LSU beats Florida, I think they'd jump us imo
by goingforthecorner on Oct 3, 2009 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Les Miles will lose two games this season.
It’s one of college football’s few certainties.
proud to swim home
No, LSU will not jump us if they beat Florida
LSU has been lucky to be undefeated so far this year. They should of lost to Mississippi State and Georgia. They have the 105th ranked offense in the country. Nothing that deserves a #1 ranking in my mind. Anyway, I don’t think they will beat Florida.
And it wouldn’t matter either way, because Florida would drop. It takes being ranked in the top two in the BCS to go to the big game, and only one out of UF, LSU, and ’Bama can go undefeated.
by burntorangehorn on Oct 3, 2009 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions
I doubt it.
If LSU wins, they’ll get some of Florida’s 1st place votes, but they’ll split ’em with Alabama still and enough voters still have the mentality of “#2 becomes #1 if #1 loses.”
that's been the trend all year. just move guys up a slot when teams in front of them fall.
3/19/2009 - Dogus Balbay Made a Three-Pointer. Never Forget.
Notre Dame
Seriously. This year they have done a great job of making games between mediocre teams exciting.
I'm sure they'll find a way to be in the top 25 again
I would hate to think ND taking away a BCS spot from a more deserving BCS team or Boise/Houston/TCU/etc
by goingforthecorner on Oct 3, 2009 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions
After watching that UGA-LSU game
I can’t believe clauson didn’t get a penalty for that gunslinger thing.
Woot, huge reception by Wash
definitely in FG range.
by goingforthecorner on Oct 3, 2009 6:11 PM CDT reply actions
God damn it
another INT saves Notre Dame
by goingforthecorner on Oct 3, 2009 6:13 PM CDT reply actions
This guy made FG to beat USC
Tougher conditions but he can do it again.
Would be a great day
if ND could lose along with Michigan. Would be even better if OU can also lay an egg.
by goingforthecorner on Oct 3, 2009 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions
I think he's actually pretty underrated.
Everyone thinks he’s pretty terrible, but he’s actually pretty decent. You miss that 2-minute drill he ran to take the lead?
Did you miss his first two years at QB?
Washington was win less last year also. Sure, they are improved but still nothing to write home about.
But most people think he's great.
I don’t know why you seem to think most people think he’s terrible. He’s number 2 on Sports Illustrated’s heisman list.
ND was terrible on the whole the last two years
Clausen missed games his freshman year because he was sacked so many times. Not any particular injury, he was just too beat up to play because his O-line was that bad. And last year if their defense was better they would have been 9-3. He is clearly poised enough to lead his team to wins and is statistically one of the best QB’s in the country.
If you're so sure of what it ain't, how about telling us what it am!
Remember, these are the same open threads where "Colt Sucks" chants break out
Some folks aren’t open to objective QB evaluations
proud to swim home
Wake me when Notre Dame actually plays someone decent...
They have one of the weakest schedules in history and they acting like they just knocked off a top 10 team and it was only Washington at home. Everyone will think Notre Dame is back with a 8 or 9 win season but did they really play anyone? I won’t buy anything about that team till they actually play someone. USC is overrated also so that might take till a bowl game till they actually play someone.
He is good
But, it was always going to be tough to live up to the expectations out of high school.
especially his 4 Heisman/4 Nation Championship expectations
If you're so sure of what it ain't, how about telling us what it am!
Tech
Scores two touchdowns in the final two minutes with first teamers being up by 14 and already losing 4 starters to injury on the day.
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