Sunday Morning Celebration Thread
by 40AS on Oct 4, 2009 6:44 AM CDT
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PrintWhat a Saturday! Big Game Bob continues to live up to his reputation, Texas A&M's resurgece under Mike Sherman took another step forward against Arkansas, and UTEP proved what a crappy non-conference opponent it was. Could we have asked for anything more in an off week?
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Could we have asked for anything more?
Maybe USC going down to Cal.
But given the choice, I’d pick this over that, easy ;)
Hook ’Em!!
Just keep winning....
With all the other teams taking on an early loss, we have no SOS concerns. We handle our schedule, and we go to Pasadena to play for it all. No excuses….
Let’s get it started with CU on Saturday!
Hook ’em.
Wonderful to watch
I loved nothing more than watching the Aggies get pounded, “Sid Finch” exposed, and OU’s line look like the pedestrian p.o.s. they are. We should be able to tee off on whoever they put behind center. Muschamp must be salivating.
This weekend’s games do, however, certainly underscore the fact that we absolutely cannot lose a game this year and expect to be in the MNC game. The Big 12 is having a bad, bad year.
C&C is reporting Broyles is out 4 to 6 weeks with a fractured shoulder. Don’t think anything is official yet….
wow
who ever saw the Utep game coming. Thats impressive on their part to come back after getting clobbered by us to come back and beat Houston. What does that say for our badass defense though?
I even named my son Kolt.
sorry for the piss poor punctuation and grammer. It was a long night!
I even named my son Kolt.
by vivalonghorns05 on Oct 4, 2009 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions
UTEP
scored more points against Houston (58) than they gained in yards against Texas (56). How does that happen?
by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Oct 4, 2009 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't know.
Is our defense that good or was UTEP not even really there?
I even named my son Kolt.
by vivalonghorns05 on Oct 4, 2009 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions
To me,
the outcome of that game is the strangest occurrence I can remember in years. I’m not at all surprised that Houston crashed, but UTEP? I’ve sat through a lot of opening day snoozefests as UT has pummeled North Texas and Louisianna-Lafayette, but that UTEP team from last week looked to be the worst of all of them.
I would have been notably surprised if UTEP had scored 58 against New Mexico State or Tulsa, but Houston is at least a top-40 team.
OU could have lost by a lot more
Their TDs came off of a terrible intercepted throw by Miami and a phantom roughing the kicker call.
Miami also had their safety on Murray in the endzone after pinning them on the one, but couldn’t make a tackle for the safety, which instead he sprung for a large momentum 30 yard run. That drive was another one that ended in a score for the Sooners.
I don’t know who was salivating more last night watching the game, Sergio or Colt, but both should destroy this year’s Sooners. The Sooner O-line got called for holding 4 times that I remember, and were beat like small children all night long. After Miami abandoned those two inexcusable long throws to the Sooners, Harris carved up the Sooner secondary. I saw one drag route across the middle that went for about 15 yards, and the Miami WR’s were wide open all freaking night. If OU plays like that against Colt and these WR’s, our game will be an embarrassment for Big Game Bob.
by BoddickerIsClutch on Oct 4, 2009 9:21 AM CDT reply actions
Agreed
After OU jumped up 10-0 their drive chart was like this. The only time they moved the ball was on the BS touchdown.
08:20 2 02:00 OKLA 36 3 7 Punt
04:08 2 04:06 OKLA 17 10 42 Turnover on Downs
15:00 3 00:34 OKLA 15 2 -4 Fumble
14:21 3 03:47 OKLA 34 12 1 Punt
06:54 3 03:11 OKLA 19 9 81 Rushing Touchdown
02:01 3 01:10 OKLA 22 3 7 Punt
12:30 4 01:37 OKLA 17 3 -1 Punt
08:01 4 03:43 MIA 48 8 26 Field Goal Good
Y'all don't get it...
We want teams that we play to win every game except when they lose to us. We want them to be as strong as possible so that when we beat them, we look all that much stronger. That’s why the Big 12 is often thought of as so much weaker than the SEC. Look at the SEC: Florida, Alabama and LSU are all top 5 teams, so when one of them beats the others, it makes the winner look that much better because they beat a top 5 team. Therefore, we should actually WANT OU and A&M to win so that when we beat them, we look better and the whole conference looks better.
by Katie McBeast on Oct 4, 2009 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Didnt help us last year
For the longterm, its best for us if OU loses every single game they ever play by a bazillion points, so thats what I root for.
Aggie I care less about, but wont ever frown when they lose.
by BoddickerIsClutch on Oct 4, 2009 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't care
I hate them both.
Disciplina Praesidium Civitatis.
Agreed
I’m not sure how it benefits Texas when Big 12 teams lose to out of conference teams. The only argument that can be made is on the recruiting front and I’m not sure how strong that correlation is. Look, we can only play the teams on our schedule. But if the teams on our schedule beat other top ranked teams, it at least allows a comparison between Texas and those other programs even if it doesn’t always pay the dividends that we think it should. Of course, this has been a pretty crazy year…but still.
Texas controls its own destiny
SOS is irrelevant
If you're so sure of what it ain't, how about telling us what it am!
Irrelevant?
Personally, an MNC victory is MUCH more satisfying when college football fans across the country believe that the best team and the best program won. If preseason #2 Texas wins out, and the level of its competition is suspect, it was opportunistic and there is nothing wrong with that…I guess.
The final opponent makes it relavent
Plus I get how it looks today, months out of the actual game.
But do you think LSU looks at 2007 and regrets how they got to the MNC? Hell no. Is Florida bummed that they stoned a weak tOSU team from a weak Big10 in 2006? Hell no.
We play in the system as it is, and our price for the weak conference is having to go undefeated. We pay that, and we get to take on whoever else makes it through their gauntlet, and winning that game will be as rewarding and satisfying as it could be. Dont be spoiled cause we were involved in the greatest storied MNC of our era, they aren’t all like that, and it doesn’t mean it counts for any less.
by BoddickerIsClutch on Oct 5, 2009 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions
Our price for a weak conference
Might ultimately be the price that Boise St. is paying today…
Well that's just wrong.
Remember the conference in 2005? It was terrible. Worse than it is this year. Who is possibly going to jump us in the polls if we go undefeated? It’s absurd.
Not the point.
I’m not talking about anyone jumping Texas in the polls if we go undefeated this year. Rather, I’m supporting the argument that having Texas Big 12 opponents do well in their games helps the conference and, by extension, helps Texas. The argument that it’s “irrelevant” smacks of hubris…as if the Big 12 will always have a seat at the table no matter how well its teams do outside of the conference. We’re #2 in the preseason polls. Based on our play this year?
Respect for a power conference like the Big 12 fluctuates year to year.
This year, respect is low. Luckily, this year, if Texas goes undefeated, conference respect is not something that matters one bit because Texas will be in the national championship game regardless. Next year, Big 12 respect may matter, but if Big 12 conference teams do well, then it will be respected. Personally, i’ll worry about that next year.
This year, it just doesn’t matter. So how does the Big 12 being good or bad this year help or hurt Texas?
Again. I'm not talking about this year's circumstance.
We benefitted in this year’s polls because of last year’s respect of the conference…it certainly wasn’t because we crushed a great tOSU team (we didn’t and they weren’t) or because of our dominant performances in our strong OOC schedule (they were but it wasn’t). We can’t have it both ways (wanting Big 12 rivals to lose to OOC opponents but wanting respect for ourselves). If the Big 12 doesn’t take care of business, year in and year out, Texas will have to start scheduling stronger OOC opponents and put it’s season on the line earlier; something I wouldn’t have wanted to do with this year’s team. It’s just an opinion. Beaten to death at this point.
that roughing call was indefensible
maybe that’s why we haven’t been going after punters this season.
Yeah I do... and it's about time too.
They got a great coach when they got him back. Hopefully now they will appreciate it.
Play like you mean it...
Malzahn
Hiring Gus Malzahn as the OC was the absolute best coaching move that Chizik could have made. I expect Malzahn to get a head coaching job this off season, so it will be interesting to see what Auburn does after that.
by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Oct 4, 2009 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Chizik ought to .....
…. bring back Tony Franklin.
His Middle Tennessee State (3-1) team stomped Maryland in their own stadiium and solidly defeated N.Texas and Memphis. Their only loss was to Clemson in the season’s opener. Franklin’s offense is a pass-first, run-second spread that focuses on getting fast athletes in space against slower athletes. While he didn’t fit in with Tuberville’s stodgy offensive staff, he could help light things up at Auburn and kids with speed just love to play for him.
--- All roads to the Big-XII Championship lead through OU/RRS. It's not just another game! We're all about championships here. ---
Stoops blows it
Behind 21-10, when OU scores he kicks for one extra point. Now it’s 21-17 and his FG makes it 21-20, needing an FG to win. If he had gone for 2 and makes it, he gets the tie. Or if it fails a 21-19 loss, still needing another FG to win.
Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.
It was still early
If you miss the 2 & it’s 21-16, then a Miami FG forces you to have to go for 2 again. Odds are against you in that case.
Man - the ESPN boards are roasting Texas and Big 12
Was at the ESPN message board this morning and we are being hit hard by pollsters for schedule and Big 12 OOC play. My basic response was “just win baby” and Texas plays in NCG. Go take a look – some of the posts are quite amusing.
Unfortunately, we're now the Pac 12...
One really good team and 11 supposed also-rans. All we can do is just keep winning as many have mentioned above. I actually would have liked to have seen Nebraska beat V-Tech and OU beat Miami last night. The Big XII has no win other than maybe OSU/Georgia to hang its hat on.
The key now will be for Mack to keep the Horns humble and motivated…after CU, the stretch against OU, Mizzou, and OSU seems to be dangerous not because those teams are great, but because UT may enter the game over-confident.
Just keep winning…and hey, at least all of UT’s non-con opponents won yesterday.
Be nobody but yourself in a world that desperately wants you to be like everybody else.
OF COURSE
Of course they are roasting us because we look super weak being the best team in a weak conference that keeps losing to other teams. We’re looking like the best team in the ACC which isn’t saying anything. It becomes less of a big deal when we beat crappy teams like OU is this year.
by Katie McBeast on Oct 4, 2009 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions
True. But if we win out, we don't need any help.
And if we don’t win out, I’m not sure any amount of help will be enough. So just schadenfreude it up.
Yep
It makes it slightly harder for us. And in a year when it seems that they want an all SEC title game, we have to continue to stay humble and not get over confident.
There's no way
If Texas wins out and they have an all SEC title game, there will be a conspiracy theory going on. No way they will pick an undefeated SEC team and a one loss SEC team over an undefeated big XII team.
Who cares? I love watching OU lose on national tv.
by the1austin on Oct 4, 2009 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
it helps us
in the sense that they’re not going to be able to back into the MNC game. It also helps us in that the media’s love affair is turning bitter.
by the other Andrew on Oct 4, 2009 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions
And
the slow demise of Stoops’ big-game reputation has to take a toll, eventually, on OU’s recruiting.
Hopefully immediately
As in the case of Jeffcoat and D. White. Players that don’t have a lifelong attachment to one particular team should logically lean towards the more successful team(s) on their favorites list. If OU continues to struggle, and Stoops’ failings as a gameday coach continue to be exposed on national television, that must only end up helping the Texas recruiting bandwagon.
Same goes with USC. If Carroll continues to throw his players under the bus, and USC loses to Oregon and/or Notre Dame, perhaps we will lose fewer Texas athletes to his siren song over the next couple of years.
Still a Blaine Irby fan
by patienthornsfan on Oct 5, 2009 5:36 AM CDT up reply actions
We definitely have to win out.
That excessive celebration aganst UGA was terrible and costly. Really bad call
by Wrangler86 on Oct 4, 2009 12:17 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
And cue Oklahoma fans on the interwebs pushing the panic button
Here: http://www.crimsonandcreammachine.com/2009/10/4/1068366/did-you-get-that-memo
And here: http://www.crimsonandcreammachine.com/2009/10/4/1068316/meltdown-in-miami-sooners-play
Enjoy your Sunday Morning Brunch
Get off your knees Greg, you're blowin' the game.
Bad Big 12 Not Picked Up By Poll Voters
Okay, the Big 12 conference has had several disappointing non-conference game results. But if you look at the polls the Big 12 has the most teams in the Top 25: Six in both the writers and coaches polls.
Yes, the SEC has six, too. But that’s only in the writers, S Carolina is not in the coaches poll, which leaves only five appearances in that one.
Next closest conference is the Big 10 with 4/3 teams (coaches/writers), followed by the ACC with 3 teams in both polls.
I’d argue that the B10, P10 should have one more team, and Notre Dame should be in – all at the expense of three B12 teams, but fortunately for now the voters don’t see it the same way all of us fans of the conference do.
So, if the six B12 teams in the polls continue to have success over the lower-tier schools now that conference play starts we’ll be okay in our SoS component of the BCS poll that gives additional credit for wins over top 25 teams. The other conferences, including the SEC now have the same issues we face in their top teams cannibalizing each other in conference.
So, relax, everything will fall into place for the Longhorns. The overall conference preseason show was disappointing for us, but not bad relative to the other ones, including the SEC.
six teams in the top 25 and one in the top ten.
I don’t know how I feel aboutt hat.
The swine flu takes a Will Muschamp shot every September.
by pleaseplaykindle on Oct 4, 2009 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah it's all been great fun.....
BUT this sounds like a lot of back slapping to me after not really facing an opponent yet this season. Just because Houston beat Okst and UTEP beat Houston doesn’t mean by any stretch of the imagination that we demolished a team (UTEP) that turned around to beat a decent team (Houston) thereby proving our team is something special. If anyone has learned anything this season it should be that college football teams are, across the board, more inconsistent than Texas weather. I think our defense has made strides, but I do not think they are where they need to be yet. I really wish we could get some more consistency from our receivers, and if our running back corps can keep up what they have started we will be in a good position. But UT winning out is not by any means a forgone conclusion. OU might be even more dangerous now, with a second loss, because all of a sudden Big Game Bob doesn’t have anything to loose. Same for Okst, A&M, and any number of the other teams that get up for us unlike any other opponent because no one enjoys anything more than beating Texas. All I’m trying to say is, lets keep our heads on straight. We aren’t out of the woods yet.
We're the only Big 12 team in the top ten.
Ouch.
The swine flu takes a Will Muschamp shot every September.
by pleaseplaykindle on Oct 4, 2009 2:56 PM CDT reply actions
And the Oscar goes to...
Another fine acting performance by the kicker.. reminds me of the time he did it against Texas.. Hey wait a minute.. did they not lose that one too.. :)
45-35
Or something close to that. I’ve slept since then.
by aaronlybrand on Oct 4, 2009 9:02 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
We should really not get ahead of ourselves
The only decent team we’ve beaten is tech who didn’t look good at all against houston, and we all saw what happened to houston. let’s just hope texas is as good as we all hope they are and they run the table. nothing is guaranteed.
3/19/2009 - Dogus Balbay Made a Three-Pointer. Never Forget.
but that houston team, lost to a utep team that we utterly dominated
and that houston team also beat tech barely
but then we’re gonna play ou who lost to byu and miami
but fla state lost to miami barely and trounced byu
in conclusion circular logic is pointless
by abcdmetrius on Oct 4, 2009 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
In 2005...
I seem to recall that in 2005, the rest of the Big 12 also looked pretty crappy. But then, so did the SEC. Regardless of how good or bad the Big 12 looks, however, Texas has to win out. That’s a lesson we learned last year: we were awesome in an overall awesome conference, and in the 3 way clusterf**k that was Texas-OU-Tech, we were the ones who took it in the butt. So winning out this season was a necessity no matter what. But it would be nice if we were winning out over last year’s caliber teams so that no one can take it away from us in the future by saying, “well, yeah, but of course they were undefeated, the Big 12 sucked that year” etc.
Wont matter how good the big 12 is
If we win out and get our shot at the OMGBESTTEAMFROMBESTCONFERENCE SEC champ and beat them, no one will care how good the Big 12 was.
by BoddickerIsClutch on Oct 4, 2009 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Does SOS really matter?
OU lost, but they are still a talented team. How many other teams in the country can lose their Heisman winner and still put up good numbers on offense? The Sooners lost to a good Miami team. But none of this matters. The national media gives this conference very little respect. I read just about every talking head/pundit daily and the only conference that they think matters is the SEC and then USC. Texas is mentioned, it seems, as afterthought. There isn’t much we can do. (Since USC beat Cal this weekend, the Trojan love is starting up again. It won’t end.)
Coaches don’t watch college football (I doubt they have the time) but they do have a very significant vote. Even though they don’t admit it, you know read the national pundits, or at the very least, know what they are writing. There isn’t much we can do about that, either.
UT needs to win every game. If we don’t, we may not end up in Pasadena. They will not give Texas the benefit of the doubt.
I hate conference assocation
We consistently put out a solid product, elite recruiting, and our defense is now being led by a former SEC coordinator. The whole “you’re not good because your conference sucks” angle is ridiculous. How was the Big 12 in 2005 when we won it all? Probably not that great.
by goingforthecorner on Oct 4, 2009 6:48 PM CDT reply actions
Same can be said
for USC in 04. Their conference stunk but they were the most talented team. Also, don’t forget Big East power Miami from 01.
by aaronlybrand on Oct 4, 2009 9:05 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
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