AP, USA Today polls out

AP:

1 Florida (36) 10-0 1463
2 Alabama (14) 10-0 1429
3 Texas (10) 10-0 1424

USA Today

1 Florida (48) 10-0 1460
2 Texas (4) 10-0 1397
3 Alabama (7) 10-0 1388

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what would it take for TCU to move up?

by Ohio Horn on Nov 15, 2009 1:21 PM CST reply actions

Texas losing.

They’ll likely be ahead of the SEC championship game loser (I think that team will drop to 4th), but no way they’re jumping anyone that doesn’t lose.

by billyzane on Nov 15, 2009 1:31 PM CST up reply actions

They probably deserve to be neck-and-neck with Cincinnati after yesterday’s performance (I know people in/around Texas think they should be ahead), but it’s hard to imagine pollsters moving them ahead of Alabama, Texas, or Florida without a loss by one of the three.

by burntorangehorn on Nov 15, 2009 2:08 PM CST up reply actions

Magnitude of TCU's wins over two respected teams --

BYU and Utah, plus a road win at Clemson and the win at Virginia all help TCU. But it’s a non-BCS league and the respect factor isn’t there.

TCU plusses:
BYU has 2 losses — Florida State and TCU (38-7)
Utah has 2 losses — at Oregon, at TCU (55-28)
Clemson is 7-3 — losses to TCU and Ga. Tech (plus NC State), and Clemson has won 5 in a row

TCU minuses:
An unimpressive sked otherwise: Texas State, SMU, AForce, Colo. St, UNLV, SD State. SMU isn’t bad (6-4); AF will play in a minor bowl.

I’d guess SEC loser falls to No. 5 (unless it’s a real tight loss), behind SEC winner, Texas, TCU, Cincinnati (assuming all four are unbeaten). Wins over Georgia and in the ACC title game might vault Ga. Tech into the top 5, maybe top 3 (doubtful).

by edsp on Nov 15, 2009 2:26 PM CST up reply actions

What would it take for Florida to drop?

Seriosly, they’ve been quite unimpressive for an undefeated team. It just blows my mind that the voters can watch Florida or Bama and see that Texas is not more complete than those two. In fairness, I haven’t seen TCU play so I can’t judge that team, but UF and Bama are just not that great. Lazy voting.

by GoHorns on Nov 15, 2009 2:54 PM CST up reply actions

+1

by Orangetower87 on Nov 15, 2009 4:37 PM CST up reply actions

It just not going to Happen.

Texas won’t get the respect and consideration it deserves. They didn’t get it last season, or back in 05. What we will see is the #1 defense expose either UF or bama’s mediocre offense with a healthy beat down. Then we can see how more effective the Horns offense is against a defense that haven’t had to stop a high powered offense.

I’m collect up crows for a crow eating party.

by Xerxes on Nov 15, 2009 8:01 PM CST up reply actions

The AP poll puzzles me

It’s more an academic question right now since we win and we’re in, but what did Texas possibly do yesterday to merit dropping six points in the AP poll?

Florida dropped 4 and Alabama gained 7, so the top three combined lost three points — presumably those went to TCU, so there are now at least a couple of voters who must have elevated the Frogs into the top 3.

But that means there are a few voters who changed the order in which they ranked Florida, Alabama and Texas based on yesterday’s games. I’m not really concerned with what order a voter had those three teams ranked going into yesterday — any order would have been defensible — but how in the world could yesterday’s results have changed a voter’s perception of those teams? As a lawyer by training if not in practice, I should be able to argue the other side, but I just don’t see it in this case.

by Hopkins Horn on Nov 15, 2009 7:03 PM CST reply actions