Bevo's Daily Roundup - November 17, 2009
by dimecoverage on Nov 16, 2009 10:32 PM CST
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Mack Brown still sees room for improvement.
"We can finish better and still haven't played our best for 60 minutes," Brown said. "We're happy with where we are and really enjoying coaching these kids and watching them play. We're really happy to be 10-0, but even more excited with the enthusiasm and passion the guys continue to play with every week."
Barking Carnival has some defensive thoughts and a Baylor post-mortem.
The Jayhawks
Mark Mangino finally has an o-line alignment he can live with.
Kansas University coach Mark Mangino indicated Sunday that he has found an offensive-line alignment he’s happy with —Tanner Hawkinson at left tackle, Sal Capra at left guard, Jeremiah Hatch at center, Jeff Spikes at right guard and Brad Thorson at right tackle — after plenty of mid-season tinkering.
"It’s the most comfortable I’ve been all year," Mangino said. "I think (offensive line coach) John Reagan’s comfortable with that, and I think the kids are comfortable, collectively, with that set-up."
This season has been tough on the seniors.
The Batt continues their undying support of the football program.
So, I'm sitting here trying to come up with some positives that came out of the "Fightin'" Texas Aggies' performance on Saturday in Norman. So far, my list reads: They showed up. Literally. We have tangible evidence to suggest they were, in fact, present in Norman. And…Yeah, that's all I've got.
65-10. Another embarrassment. Another showing of ineptitude. And, suddenly, the sunshine pumpers are awfully quiet. Cat got your tongue?
The 22nd game in the infamous era of Mike Sherman sure looked familiar, didn't it?
Mike Gundy presser: Zac Robinson is doing well. The Pokes play Colorado on Thursday night.
Colorado is absolutely, positively not looking for a new head coach. The athletic director said it, so it must be true.
"Our efforts are in creating an environment for him to be successful," Bohn told the Camera. "We are putting every ounce of energy, support and effort into creating an environment for us to be successful. That's where our focus is."
Dan Hawkins certainly isn't worried about his job.
Earlier today during the Big 12 Conference coaches' teleconference, Hawkins said he doesn't believe his job is in jeopardy.
"No, not at all," he said.
Hawkins was asked if he has had any communication from Bohn or Chancellor Phil DiStefano about his future.
"They've been great," Hawkins said. 'They've been awesome. Mike's been great and Phil has been great. They've both been very supportive about the whole deal, very good."
This Saturday's game between Nebraska and Kansas State is just like old times.
The two old warhorses of the Big 12 North's early days are back at it again.
If there’s such a thing as North Division bluebloods, it would be these two teams. So it’s somehow fitting that both will be involved in an old-school winner-take-all battle for the division championship Saturday night in Lincoln when Bill Snyder and his surprising Kansas State team face Bo Pelini’s Nebraska squad.
For once, the conference spotlight is not on the South division.
Texas, still third in the BCS rankings, wants to clinch the South and make certain Kansas doesn't end a five-game losing streak. Texas A&M hopes its third try will bring bowl eligibility as well as revenge over Baylor, which beat the Aggies, 42-21, last season. Oklahoma or Texas Tech will have seven wins by Saturday evening.
For genuinely high stakes, though, you'll have to look elsewhere. The biggest game in the conference this week will be played in Lincoln, Neb.
Kansas State and Nebraska will decide the Big 12 North title and who gets the trip to Cowboys Stadium next month in a meeting that carries a '90s vibe.
Eleven teams from the conference still have a mathematical chance to go bowling.
SI's Stewart Mandel has his bowl matchups.
Is Bob Stoops really interested in the Notre Dame job?
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Dime is1st Again
it’s all you need to know and more.
It’s a great time to be orange.
by TCB Orange Dino on Nov 16, 2009 10:55 PM CST reply actions
Wyoming vs TCU....upset alert
Call me crazy. Maybe I’ve had too much java already this morning. I’m making the prediction right now: TCU is upset in Wyoming. Weather is calling for cold, wind and snow. Go Pokes!!!
by Dawnpatrol on Nov 17, 2009 8:48 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Just so you know...
… If you’re one of those psychos that think Cincy or TCU might pass us from beneath: TCU is behind Cincy in the computers, but the humans will likely keep them ahead of the bearcats until the end if they win out. If TCU loses, then Cincy moves to #4 and we will lose some of our buffer in the standings from the human polls. Better, in my estimation, to have TCU and Cincy split votes or at least have TCU provide a downranked computer buffer to Cincy than have Cincy be a clear #4 and also above us in the computers.
Of course you may route for TCU to lose
if you think Cincy is likely to lose at some point as well.
by Texas Wahoo on Nov 17, 2009 10:03 AM CST up reply actions
Not like it matters anyway
But the biggest to root for is probably Nebraska to win this weekend, to give us the strongest record opponent in the Big 12 championship game.
by BoddickerIsClutch on Nov 17, 2009 10:13 AM CST up reply actions
You're crazy....
“The dart man, you got a f*ckin dart in your neck.”
“You’re cra… You’re crazy man. You’re Crazy. I like you but, you’re Crazy.”
BOOOOOOOOM MF!
The only way to shut them up
is to play them (or a Wyoming upset). Which won’t happen because of the system. I guess you now know how Sooner felt last year when Longhorn wouldn’t shut up. And don’t respond with “we beat them head to head”. Because the same screwed up system that locked us out last year is locking them out this year. I would think we would have a slight bit of empathy for them after what we went through last year.
Don't respond with, " we beat them head to head"
One for the ages…. That’s the only reason Texas had an argument. We beat them h2h and had similar resumes.
Why not stop playing games. Everyone can sit around and out comment each other on which team is best.
Sheesh…
"Don't ask yourself what the world needs -- ask yourself what makes you come alive, and then go do it. Because what the world needs is people who have come alive."
-- Harold Thurman
Trying to follow your logic here
So," the only way to shut them up is to play them". But if we did play them, and we lost to them (like OU lost to UT), they (UT) shouldn’t shut up because the system sucks. Is that right?
Pluse they were two completely different situations. I dont get how you can connect them. They weren’t even the same system that “locked us out” it was the Big 12 tie breaker rule that kept us from winning the Big 12. I still dont agree with that rule, but apparently the Big 12 doesnt have a problem with it.
by BoddickerIsClutch on Nov 17, 2009 9:53 AM CST up reply actions
The system that locked us out
was not the Big 12 South championship BCS tiebreaker. It was the fact that Longhorns were not BCS #1 or #2 at the end of the season. Same system is locking TCU out. Until we have a system that does not lock undefeated teams out, I’m afraid Longhornem won’t be able to shut them up. So no need to be upset with TCU fans, especially if they go undefeated.
I my humble opinion, if UT beats Florida in the National Championship game, the national championship from 2008 should be retroactively be redirected to Austin. We lost more from last years team than they did.
No, it was the tie-breaker
The system that locked us out was not the Big 12 South championship BCS tiebreaker. It was the fact that Longhorns were not BCS #1 or #2 at the end of the season. Same system is locking TCU out. Until we have a system that does not lock undefeated teams out, I’m afraid Longhornem won’t be able to shut them up.
It was the conference, not the BCS, that determined what the tie-breaker should be. Blame the conference, including the Stoops stooges who voted as they did. Also, the system did not lock out an undefeated team last year.
by burntorangehorn on Nov 17, 2009 8:10 PM CST up reply actions
BCS didn't lock out an undefeated???
Might want to go update the Utah Ute 2008 football wikipedia site, cause they are claiming they went 13-0 and including a beating of Alabama in the Sugar Bowl. But we had one loss so what did we have to complain about last year. And yet we did. Stoops Stooges were BCS voters right? That is the system. BCS.
And it was the BCS that locked us out. If Mizzou had beaten OU in champ game, we could have been #2 and played for the National Championship. It is BCS #1 and #2 at END OF SEASON that determines participants in the one game playoff. And it is that one game playoff that is the ONLY thing that matters to a program like Texas. That is the problem. And again, unless you want to give up your right to complain about circumstances like last year’s, everybody stop btchn about other teams fans complaining and questioning WTF is going on with college football this year.
Instead, be joyful that it looks like we are set up to benefit from the system this year and count your lucky stars that people perceive Frog to be not quite as good as Longhorn while at the same time understanding TCU fans (oh, and Boise St. and Cinncy) yearning to be where we are. Because unless we were to play, which we won’t, that is all it is, perception of the ignorant/political Stoops Stooges voters.
I don’t mean to be a rick with a P about this. I guess my “anguish” comes from the fact that I still think last years NC game was a farce. So I empathize with those who think the system (BCS, conference, whatever) is a farce.
Sorry, you were talking about Texas
I thought you were complaining that the BCS locked out an undefeated Texas. Texas was “locked out” because of a tie-breaker that the conference, not the BCS system, put into place, period.
There usually is a farce involved in championships. That’s the nature of sports that don’t allow for high volumes of games. I consider any wild card that has ever won a championship to be a farcical champion at best, for example.
by burntorangehorn on Nov 18, 2009 2:39 PM CST up reply actions
It's not the same....
TCU is not in a BCS conference. Different situation, different year. From top to bottom TCU does not take the same pounding a BCS school takes week in week out (Whether you win or lose) If they played in the Big 12, Big 10, Pac-10 or SEC they would not be as strong. Maybe the Big 12 is weak this year but the teams are still better THAN the Mwc. Not saying TCU is not good. But the current crap system does not allow a true NCAA Div 1 champ. Big money, Big Conference = Big title. Go Horns!
Bad argument. The rest of the Big 12 (like the rest of the SEC after Bama and UF) just absolutely suck this year. Name the big 12’s big non con wins? OSU over Ga is one. Maybe Baylor over Wake?… Every team except us, Kansa, and Mizzou lost at LEAST one non con game, those 3 don’t have any good non con games to point to.
Yes, the rest of the big 12 is beating each other up, but so has everyone else who has played the big 12 this year. The same can be said for the SEC (how close was LSU to losing to Wa and freaking LT?!)
I still think regardless of the Big 12's strength this year, or lack thereof
That TCU would struggle to be in the position they are in a BCS conference. Playing a higher level of competition day-in and day-out means a lot.
You’re playing against more schools with more money, bigger and faster players. There’s a wear and tear factor that I’m not sold on TCU having faced.
That being said, I expect them to show up well in whatever bowl game they get to, but I think it has a lot to do with TCU not being “upset” at any point
Its not entirely about the wins and losses
I know its like blasphemy to say that in sports, but its about money and resources too.
The big 12 is down in terms of wins and losses, but across the board it spends more money on coaches, and facilities which means it gets better talent in the door. That better talent is coached by better coaches. And those teams are the ones we play every year.
I dont say this to take anything away from TCU, they appear to be great this year, but playing Baylor with Briles as the head coach is not the same as playing San Diego State, and whoever their head coach is, even though they have the same record.
Coaches graduate from the MWC and similar conferences to get their shot at BCS schools (Hawkins for example). Do you think that there are any group of 3 coaches that match up with Pelini, Mangino, and Leach that dont include Peterson in the MWC? Doubtful, and that leaves off the top three coaches in our conference.
None of that is to say that a team cant rise up and be good, and beat the big boys. Obviously that can happen. But theres no way that their conference is comparable, just because the Big 12 lost more games this year than they usually do.
by BoddickerIsClutch on Nov 17, 2009 1:10 PM CST up reply actions
This is a bad argument as well...
The Big 12 sucking has little to do with the quality of the MWC. The conference may be down but it easily matches up favorably to the MWC from top to bottom. Outside of TCU the only ‘quality’ win for the conference is BYU’s win over OU. That Georgia victory looks like a better win than that at this stage. Utah and Air Force haven’t beaten anyone of note and Baylor’s victory over Wake does indeed out distance anything anyone, outside of BYU and TCU, did in the MWC. We had three teams that went undefeated in non-conf. The MWC? Only TCU went unscathed. BYU got destroyed at home by a mediocre FSU and Air Force lost to mediocre Minnesota and a decent Navy team. Utah lost a close one to Oregon, but their best non-conf victory is over a terrible Louisville squad. If the Big 12 sucks then the MWC swallows!
TCU doesn’t take the pounding we do, that is a fact and it is an argument worth making even if its hard to quantify. It is much harder playing even an injury plagued Baylor than it is to play New Mexico, Colorado State, UNLV, and San Diego State as half your conference slate. Wyoming is the middle of the pack in the MWC and even Colorado beat them. (Ok, so CU lost to an even worse Colorado State, but just goes to show the transitive property means little over the course of a season.) TCU might have won the Big 12 this year, but they also might have worn down having to face Tech, OU, OSU, and Texas over the course of 6 or 8 weeks, not to mention having to also play A&M and a couple of North division teams in that same span.
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