Should restaurant's in Austin be fearful or breath a sigh of relief? Mangino out at KU?
by Rickyspub on Nov 17, 2009 2:18 PM CST
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KU guys are chiming in on the comments at BC that Mangino might not even make the trip down to Austin! Word could even come down as early as this afternoon. Dimecoverage noted the players-only meeting with the AD that supposedly dealt with player concerns and what the AD referred to as a 'personnel' issue.
What would happen if Mangino is fired this week? How much of a distraction would it be for us and could we let our guard down against a veteran team playing on the edge?
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So he has weight, you in 1st grade?
"Don't ask yourself what the world needs -- ask yourself what makes you come alive, and then go do it. Because what the world needs is people who have come alive."
-- Harold Thurman
Chill dude...
If you really want to get your delicate feelings hurt, you should check out the comments at BC!
by Rickyspub on Nov 17, 2009 3:34 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
"So he has weight"??
Are you kidding? The guy is BY FAR the fattest head coach in football. Learn how to take a joke!
Fun fact…..go to google, start typing in “how much does mar” and google auto completes it to “how much does mark mangino weigh”
delicate feelings? How about you try to be clever or witty? learn how to take a joke? i didn't see a joke
just low hanging fruit.
"Don't ask yourself what the world needs -- ask yourself what makes you come alive, and then go do it. Because what the world needs is people who have come alive."
-- Harold Thurman
how bout this.....
“A weight? I’d say he has more than one weight”
Was that clever?
by the other Andrew on Nov 17, 2009 8:08 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
So clever I don't get it but I'm sensitive and delicate.
I can’t weight for the next grate reply.
"Don't ask yourself what the world needs -- ask yourself what makes you come alive, and then go do it. Because what the world needs is people who have come alive."
-- Harold Thurman
mr serious should learn how to spell
by GoComets! on Nov 17, 2009 11:34 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
If you and the dolts that rec'd this really think I misspelled, WOW!
At least know what you’re talking about if you’re going to try and mock me.
Btw, all your replies have confirmed my first comment.
"Don't ask yourself what the world needs -- ask yourself what makes you come alive, and then go do it. Because what the world needs is people who have come alive."
-- Harold Thurman
Relacks dood
It was jus a joke. Know kneed to get you’re pantys all bunchd up.
Get off your knees Greg, you're blowin' the game.
aaahhh
I dont feel good about that. I can do better. I was being lazy, and I apologize. Next time, I’ll be more of an ass.
Get off your knees Greg, you're blowin' the game.
dont sell yourself short..
"Don't ask yourself what the world needs -- ask yourself what makes you come alive, and then go do it. Because what the world needs is people who have come alive."
-- Harold Thurman
i'm out. how does one respond to drivel like this?
"Don't ask yourself what the world needs -- ask yourself what makes you come alive, and then go do it. Because what the world needs is people who have come alive."
-- Harold Thurman
yikes
I don’t think anyone knows what you are talking about man. Haven’t been called a “dolt” in awhile though, thanks for making my day a little better.
amazing but at i get it
At BON, it is cool, funny, and popular to make fun of over weight people. got it. it is even cooler to defend those that do.
Texas pride at its best…
"Don't ask yourself what the world needs -- ask yourself what makes you come alive, and then go do it. Because what the world needs is people who have come alive."
-- Harold Thurman
thanos
We aren’t making fun of him, just pointing out whats obvious. (:
Texas Swagger
by We Are Texas on Nov 18, 2009 8:09 PM CST up reply actions
many of you go to great lengths to compliment this site
rave about intellectual discourse, remark that this site is different and has higher standards than the average jock blog. riiiighhhhhhhttt
you can have your sophomoric humor, doesn’t mean everyone has to accept it. thank goodness so many of you felt compelled to speak your minds and fight for the right to personally attack people. it is very inspiring.
"Don't ask yourself what the world needs -- ask yourself what makes you come alive, and then go do it. Because what the world needs is people who have come alive."
-- Harold Thurman
Relax
A little humor never hurt anyone. Your being too defensive about this, and insulting fellow longhorns in the process.
Texas Swagger
by We Are Texas on Nov 18, 2009 9:43 PM CST up reply actions
6 or 7 longhorns felt the need to weigh in with remarks defending the OP but i'm defensive....
i love and enjoy all kinds of humor. just don’t get when people have to attack personal appearance. that’s mean not funny. if you think being a little mean never hurt anyone then we are vastly different. don’t worry, this is the last reply. already wasted too much time on folks that don’t get it.
"Don't ask yourself what the world needs -- ask yourself what makes you come alive, and then go do it. Because what the world needs is people who have come alive."
-- Harold Thurman
Lol, sadly no
"Don't ask yourself what the world needs -- ask yourself what makes you come alive, and then go do it. Because what the world needs is people who have come alive."
-- Harold Thurman
Damn, get off your high horse....
I guess you never go to Barking Carnival. The intellectual discourse (beyond sports) is immensely high level but so is the depths of the level of gross sophomoric humor. Shaggy Bevo is just one giant flame war and even the good posts generally have at least a dozen expletives in the first handful of responses.
If you think a few Mangino jokes are offensive you probably should just stay away from the internet all together…this stuff is tame. Instead of getting all preachy and bent out of shape you could have just ignored my post all together. I notice you didn’t attack the poster calling out the Bonfire victims for being drunk and stupid. I guess attacking dead kids is OK with you but commenting on the personal appearance of an opposing coach whose team we will face in an important game gives you the vapors.
Juxtaposition
Juxtaposition of grandiloquent discourse and toilet humor is one of my favorite things to see in a website.
Granted, I think people overdo it with Mangino and a few others, because it goes a little stale after the tenth consecutive fat joke, but otherwise it’s good stuff.
by burntorangehorn on Nov 19, 2009 11:11 AM CST up reply actions
you have to be in your late teens with this response..
BC or any other site, has nothing to do with what is posted here (maybe you can ref them a 3rd time). to your point, if i want to engage in that type of humor, i would go there, not here.
your reference to the bonfire situation shows your unlimited and astounding ignorance. thankfully, i cannot comprehend what would motivate you to reference this at all. it underscores your emotional immaturity. now, you reference me in a different thread altogether and sheep chime in. very mature.
"Don't ask yourself what the world needs -- ask yourself what makes you come alive, and then go do it. Because what the world needs is people who have come alive."
-- Harold Thurman
Nice try to end on a moral high ground thanos
But you are the one on this thread who has been engaging in name calling. Webster defines Dolt as “a stupid person”. Don’t throw stones when you live in a glass house and DONT be a giant hypocrite.
Also, BON is the by far the best sports blog that I read, not only is football analysis on here top notch, the authors do an excellent job of keeping things interesting. Im sure thousands view this blog daily. Just because a couple of people enjoy what you deem to be low brow humor doesn’t mean you can brand this site to be a typical jock blog. Go get a girlfriend or a stiff drink. I can’t imagine living in that uber PC world of yours.
look at the threads before you comment to maintain some credibility.
i was told that i had delicate feelings, cant take a joke and cant spell. then i responded when the dolts started recing your asinine comment. high road? if you look back i am responding to others not initiating. my first comment was the only one i started.
I agree the authors are awesome! its you and like minded people that seem to want to make this a typical site.
Go get a girlfriend? PC world? all because i don’t think fat jokes are funny. wow.
you win, say what you want, im done. im embarrassed i wasted this much time responding..
"Don't ask yourself what the world needs -- ask yourself what makes you come alive, and then go do it. Because what the world needs is people who have come alive."
-- Harold Thurman
I don't believe it
Firing him at this point in the season would be pointless. It would absolutely destroy their razor-thin bowl hopes for guys like Kerry Meier, Todd Reesing, and Jake Sharp.
I think they’ll make a decision at the end of the season, but there’s absolutely nothing to be gained by firing Mangino prior to their last regular-season game.
by burntorangehorn on Nov 17, 2009 2:34 PM CST reply actions
I get the feeling the issue is conduct not performance...
If he hit a player or made some racially-charged comments, it won’t be a matter of waiting. If they want to fire him with cause and avoid the buyout, they probably have to pull the trigger when the allegations come to light.
What conduct, I wonder?
I have only heard that the athletics leadership was concerned that he had lost his players. I could see that, but an interim coach is even less likely to have control than Mangino is, and I think KU has been fighting pretty well even though this slide. They’ll lose again this Saturday, I’m sure, but I think they have a good chance of beating Mizzou.
by burntorangehorn on Nov 17, 2009 2:41 PM CST up reply actions
Parents involved and players citing inappropriate comments...
Sounds like a player revolt to me. If they have Mangino saying and doing things that will make the program look bad if they got out to the media, this could spell the end for him. Though firing him now would indeed be strange since it seems like there are multiple incidents over the season and not some single precipitating act that occurred just in the past few days. I could understand giving him the pink slip after the season, but for the AD to air dirty laundry now can’t help the program even if the plan is to get rid of Mangino after the regular season.
A Quote from a KU Blogger
I wonder if this has anything to do with the fact that one of his star players suggested they just skip this Saturday’s game @ Texas to be "injury free" for the finale vs. Missouri to be bowl eligilble. Rumor has it that he charged the player like a wildebeast and had to be restrained by the entire O-line and 2 coaches. Sounds like he was one punch short of taking the Raiders head-coaching position. We love you Mark. I like the way you fire us up before we play #3 Texas. Hopefully this gets the guys motivated to win a big one.
This could totally be a ploy to hype his team…We better come out ready to put on a beatdown.
Nothing raises the rile more than a mutiny.
I don’t trust this. If there is one thing Kansas needs right now it’s a common cause and there is none more powerful than to defend your leader or your brother. If the leader hasn’t lost the team then they will be at the highest point of the year, if he has and they come in with an assistant then they play for one another.
We better come out hard, fast, and knock them out in the first 5 minutes. LND
Agreed
We can not go into this thinking it will be a cakewalk. Mizzou may have rolled over and played dead from the start but we can’t expect the same with Kansas. They may not have too much left to play for but they will still come in hungry to be the one that spoiled BCS title hopes for Texas.
None at all...
I get the impression that this team is very inwardly focused. I think it would take a heck of a lot of weirdness making the news to become a distraction.
Hook'em!!
by ArcticLonghorn on Nov 17, 2009 4:11 PM CST up reply actions
agreed. I don't doubt this team's focus one bit.
3/19/2009 - Dogus Balbay Made a Three-Pointer. Never Forget.
If a 450 lb man is not on the sidelines, it's more distracting than if he were there?
Wait… is this one of those “tree falling in the forest” things?
Some more stuff from BC
One reader found this on a Missouri board:
Just talked to my buddy. The meeting that happened last night was called because Chris Harris kU starting (I think) CB was "smacked around" by Mangino on the team charter plane going to Colorado. I guess Harris was getting an ear full from Mangino while they were boarding the plane, and Harris turned around and barked back. I guess Mangino grabbed Harris and threw him to the ground, and had to be pulled of by a couple asst. coaches. Also, my buddy said that Mangino will not be fired today, or anytime until the season is over, and he feels EXTREMELY confident that he is gone after the season. "No doubt he’s done" were his exact words. Another funny little tid bit he told me, I guess my friend talked to Bill Young earlier this year, and Bill told him that kU would never be consistently good under Mangino because "nobody wants to work for that arrogant prick."
And someone else found this at the Kansas board:
MM was offered half his buyout to walk. If he doesn’t walk, KU goes public. Meahwhile, assistant coaches are going to meet this evening to decide whether MM should coach against UT and possibly rest of season. No new HC standing in shadows. If MM walks, interim coach will come from staff, most likely Warriner.
Take these for what their worth, but it looks like the infractions are coming into focus.
The two KU boards I just checked out seem pretty resigned that this is a done deal...
It seems the only issue is the timing. Some think it could happen before the game this weekend if the assistants decide to go that direction and others say the administration is working with Mangino on a buyout that will leave him in place for the last two regular season games.
Oh man, Mangino. I know he’s an easy target for a lot of you, but I actually like the guy. Funny thing is that a few years back an incident like the one in Rickyspub’s quote wouldn’t have gotten any press at all. Now it’s grounds for firing. Yay for personal bubbles.
by burntorangehorn on Nov 17, 2009 3:51 PM CST reply actions
Gotta Love This One
KU Blogger regarding the question if Kansas will be on ESPN news over this.
Appoggiatura (anonymous) says…
Pikes, we won’t be on ESPN, unless Tebow transfers to KU…
Wait...
are you saying that this guy has anger issues? I would have never seen it coming. (language NSFW)
If you're so sure of what it ain't, how about telling us what it am!
Live and learn
That’s what happens when you eat Mangino’s hotdog.
Dang...
I don’t disagree with the message, but that was what we call an overreaction.
by TheElusiveShadow on Nov 17, 2009 8:57 PM CST up reply actions
I have to admit
I thought that dressing-down was entirely appropriate. I would probably have reacted in much the same way, and if I think if any of us saw Will Muschamp doing that to Deon Beasley, we’d all love it.
by burntorangehorn on Nov 17, 2009 9:04 PM CST up reply actions
He was burning the kid's head for the dive
I thought he made a great point. He was calling the kid out for acting like he did that himself, when the kid needs to recognize that it wasn’t time to celebrate himself. “You did this yourself!” is something I myself have yelled at douchy little junior enlisted kids in the Army for acting like they had achieved something all by themselves, when they needed to focus on group achievement. Like I said, I think it was entirely appropriate.
by burntorangehorn on Nov 18, 2009 10:08 AM CST up reply actions
well...
..from the clip I saw, I didn’t hear the audio or see the aforementioned celebration, so I admit he did needed a talking to. It still seems like an overreaction.
by vy til i die on Nov 18, 2009 10:10 AM CST up reply actions
I was once running my platoon through a competition
One of my soldiers was going through the last event of the competition, and when he successfully finished just a little bit before, clinching my platoon’s victory for the whole competition, the kid tucked his kevlar helmet under his head and high-stepped to what I guess could be called the finish line. This kid did a good job, sure, but his fellow soldiers had done various things throughout the competition to put him in a position to succeed. I grabbed the guy by his IBAS (body armor), snatched the helmet out of his head, put it on the ground, and put his face in it while I screamed in his ear. I don’t remember exactly what I said, but I think I can recall a few phrases:
“Yeah, no one else here worked his ass off but you! Time to show them all who really won this competition. Not 4th platoon, YOU! You’re the badass. You carried your f—king fellow soldiers on your shoulders and made it look easy! Thanks for the clinic you put on!”
Anyway, then I “smoked” him. In this case, this involved making him do pushups until he collapsed, flipping him over to do crunches, then running in place with his rifle over his head, then doing more pushups until he collapsed, and essentially turning the kid into a puddle of mud.
I think Mangino would make a good NCO.
by burntorangehorn on Nov 18, 2009 10:23 AM CST up reply actions
you may be right...
….but there’s a difference b/w that and a football coach, which I’m sure you know.
by vy til i die on Nov 18, 2009 1:08 PM CST up reply actions
I don't know about most programs
But my experience with all sports teams from HS, college, and then sponsored track teams has been a lot like that.
by burntorangehorn on Nov 19, 2009 8:22 AM CST up reply actions
You're 100% correct
What an awful analogy comparing this to the army, Mangino’s just a dick. You’d never see Mack do something like this because he doesn’t need to. There’s something to be said for winning without acting like a total asshole. In the grand scheme of things these are 18 year old kids playing a game, it has always bothered me when that’s forgotten.
I think the assumptions on Mangino are leggit....
http://www2.kusports.com/news/2009/nov/17/coachs-history-parking-tickets/
You don’t bring this kind of stuff up if you aren’t serious…
" Answers -- Become Resources."
Without Questions; There are limited Resources...
He was parked in the loading zone
so the forklift could pick him up and get him to his office.
"It's comin' home to Texas. It's comin' home all the way back to Awwwstin, Texas, baby!" -VY
by 2100 San Jac on Nov 18, 2009 11:31 PM CST up reply actions
Oh wow.....
… Mangino yelled at a player and put a finger in the chest of a player. I guess my HS coach could have been fired about 215 times in my senior season. Gosh, this world has become soft.
--- All roads to the Big-XII Championship lead through OU/RRS. It's not just another game! We're all about championships here. ---
I think the point of this is that Perkins was looking for cause to get rid of Mangino...
It is apparently no secret in the KU athletics world that they don’t get along. If Mangino were in line for a BCS bowl this would have been kept under wraps, probably even if Mangino strangled a kid to unconsciousness. But it sounds like Perkins and a highly influential booster want the fat man gone and these are just the sort of actions that a school can use to legitimate the desired ouster.
Lest you forget Woody Hayes, I would say things haven’t changed that much. It sounds likes Stoops and some of his guys do more than just dump on their players to the media. While things were going good you didn’t hear about them, but now that things are coming apart stories about player treatment at OU are getting play in the media.
It's interesting they waited until it was impossible for KU to win the North before it came out.
If they’d beaten NU and won out they could have done it.
Absolutely.
One angle I think the media are missing is that Mangino’s playing second-fiddle at KU. One of the big reasons Roy Williams flirted with leaving KU for years was because he felt the AD had been promoting football too much, trying to make it a successful program. Apparently he felt threatened by this. So he muscled out that AD, who was replaced by Perkins, a guy who is most certainly focused on basketball. Of course, then Williams bolted anyway. Mangino is justifiably pissed that even when he’s extremely successful, he still can’t get out of the shadow of the basketball program, because the AD considers football not much more important than swimming or track.
It’s a tough pill to swallow, I guess, mostly because Mangino comes from am OU athletics program where football is not even just king of the department, it’s emperor of the whole damn state. He should just deal with it, and keep working to put together more consistent success, but Perkins seems determined to find a reason to cut Mangino’s legs out from under him. Of the people I know who’ve gone to KU on recruiting visits, the football stories are very, very different from the basketball stories, and it’s very obvious which recruits the AD wants to impress more. Mangino has to temper his expectations, but I think it’s hard to expect him to just sit there and take it when his job is in jeopardy over crap like this.
by burntorangehorn on Nov 18, 2009 10:14 AM CST up reply actions
Except this doesn't excuse his actions...
You may think attacking and berating players is fine and well, but if that is done purely as reaction to his treatment by the AD then his actions are both misplaced and self-defeating. I think these player issues have nothing to do with his relationship to the AD. Apparently he is and has always been a grade-A prick and the chickens are coming to roost. He could have protected himself from the AD by continuing to win, but it seems that his treatment of his players made that prospect all the more difficult. If he were a guy with a positive relationship with his team, they might not have folded on him and then ratted him out.
I get the feeling that the writing was on the wall for Mangino once Perkins took over, but I also think that 12-1 season ultimately spelled his doom. Kansas football will never likely be a 10-win-a-season program. Mangino might have weathered this if he had kept everyone with realistic expectations of a semi-regular 8 or 9-win-a-season program and then held his team to those goals, even if fear and loathing were his main forms of motivation.
Definitely separate issues
I think the actions toward students, at least the ones that have been supported in news stories, are justifiable as a matter of coaching, but not justified by problems with the AD.
I think Perkins is a moron. Strangling football at a school that has some potential is stupid, and it’d almost be worth it for Mangino to get fired and watch the program sink back into irrelevance to prove that Perkins is an idiot.
by burntorangehorn on Nov 18, 2009 1:28 PM CST up reply actions
I agree about the Perkins thing, Rickyspub.
I’m not happy about how this could play out for us. Mangino orchestrated that 63-14 azz-whippin’ we took in 2000 and the 14-3 defeat in ‘01. While Kevin Wilson is piling up the points on the mediocre and poor opponents, he isn’t winning favor with the OU faithful during his big games. I could envision Stoops telling Wilson & Venables to start looking elsewhere and then put Mangino back at OC/OLine coach.
The other bit of bad news would be for Bill Snyder to grab him and insert him as HC-in-waiting. Going “back home” would probably be well received by the big donors at Kansas State.
--- All roads to the Big-XII Championship lead through OU/RRS. It's not just another game! We're all about championships here. ---
Would Disagree on That One
I really think Mangino will suffer a greater setback than a “couple years”. If he gets whacked for “real player abuse”, it will be a career killer. Minimum 5-10 years to get back to a Big XII level, which would probably mean the end of his head coaching career at a major University.
Speaking of which...
…if KU were to part ways with Mangino relatively quietly, and Leach were to bolt for Louisville, is there any chance Tech might make a move for the big guy?
Or if Leach-UL were to fall through, what about Mangino there? Smaller program, weaker conference…I think his brand of football could dominate there.
by burntorangehorn on Nov 18, 2009 12:16 PM CST up reply actions
Titles?
Do you think that makes a significant difference in whether or not prospective employers are worried about his treatment of students at KU?
by burntorangehorn on Nov 18, 2009 1:25 PM CST up reply actions
Yes...
If Bobby Knight didn’t have that great run at Indiana, Tech doesn’t even consider him much less any other top conference program. Mangino’s career might get resurrected but his drop in job title and program quality will be much greater. I doubt Mangino could land an FBS-level head coaching gig. He might get on as an OC at a non-BCS school, but he won’t likely ever see a BCS-conference HC gig again.
Ultimately it comes down to what he is accused of doing. If it is truly just the finger pointing incident then it may not be such a mountain to climb. If it is the tackling and punching a player’s throat and having to be restrained scenario its a long exile. If its racially-charged, he might not see a playing field as a coach again. I am thinking Perkins wouldn’t get away with firing him over a finger pointing incident, so I am inclined to believe Mangino’s transgressions are much more serious.
Racially?
Seriously, where did you get that? What rumors, let alone evidence, even put that on the table as a discussion point?
by burntorangehorn on Nov 18, 2009 2:07 PM CST up reply actions
I believe it was said that 5 athletes went to the AD with complaints of inappropriate actions and comments by the coach...
I am not sure if calling a guy a ‘pussy’ or using expletives would get even the most hated coach the boot. I was guessing if it wasn’t just physical abuse but also verbal then it probably had to cross the one threshold that is verboten in college football and that is the racial slur. It was certainly a speculation that wasn’t shot down by the KU fans chiming in over at BC.
Many of the players standing up for him in the media
specifically Chris Harris and (former RB) Brandon McAnderson are black. I’m guessing at this point the racial comments rumor is just a rumor with no basis in reality.
Of course that could change as more information comes out.
“I dropped a pass and [Mangino] was mad,” Brown said. "And I said, ‘Yes, sir. Yes, sir.’ The yelling didn’t bother me. But then he said, ‘Shut up!’ He said, ‘If you don’t shut up, I’m going to send you back to St. Louis so you can get shot with your homies.’
He called me a bum. He showed me no respect. He told me he’d send me back to the ghetto.
"He’d say, ’You’re not back with your homies. If you’re not careful you’ll be watching the game in the stands with your homies. You’ll be back in that neighborhood.’ "
I’m not one to throw the race card, but these quotes are a little questionable to say the least.
by lolwaihallothar on Nov 19, 2009 7:44 PM CST up reply actions
It certainly doesn't seem like he crossed the race line...
It does sound like former players are coming out of the woodwork to talk about how he used their personal issues to berate them. It is certainly looking like he didn’t engender much loyalty with his players, but none of this strikes me as strong enough to fire him without paying his buyout. I think they will use this stuff in tandem with the physical stuff to push him out and then negotiate a lower buyout without trying to enforce the ‘cause’ clause.
Yeah, I get that...
But come on. Its all in the word choice. All this talk about ‘ghettos’ and ‘homies’ are stereotypes traditionally associated with blacks. I see it as the equivalent of telling some hispanic player on your team that you’re going to send him back to the ‘barrio’ so he can chill with his ‘vatos’.
Hell, I don’t know if the guy is racist or not, but in today’s culture and climate saying those type of things is bound to get you in some hot water.
by lolwaihallothar on Nov 21, 2009 12:19 AM CST up reply actions
Was that the guy whose brother was shot in his arm?
Is it racist if you’re mean to all races? Seems like he brings up personal stuff, so if your brother got shot he’ll talk about that. If your dad is an alcoholic or you get an MIP he’ll bring up that.
This is why I don't feel TOO bad about the fat jokes
I mean, they get stale after a while, but he seems to be willing to live and die by the sword that stinging hit-’em-where-it-hurts remarks are.
by burntorangehorn on Nov 20, 2009 1:45 PM CST up reply actions
I wonder if Mangino and Chaisson would exchange notes about menacing?
I would hope that Stoops is feeling weakened enough to be unable to bring a damaged Mangino back into the fold, especially as a coordinator. I would be surprised if any team could bring him in as an HC-in-waiting, at least for a couple of years. By the time the dirty laundry is all aired, he might need to wander the outer reaches in a non-BCS conference for a few years before he can even sniff a coordinator position at a BCS school, much less a team like OU. I suppose someone could get away with bringing him on as a QB coach, but the Reesing brouhaha might have damaged his cred even without the overarching player maltreatment.
That said, if someone in the conference does take him in it would certainly not be a good thing for us. I hope for a long exile and a wide berth (pun intended, sorry thanos) of the Big 12.
Ah, Mangino
The Bowser of college football.
"It's comin' home to Texas. It's comin' home all the way back to Awwwstin, Texas, baby!" -VY
by 2100 San Jac on Nov 18, 2009 12:44 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Is that a reference to Sha Na Na?
Rama-lama-lama, lama-lama-ding-dong
Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.
its a reference to Bowser; you know, King Koopa?
"It's comin' home to Texas. It's comin' home all the way back to Awwwstin, Texas, baby!" -VY
by 2100 San Jac on Nov 18, 2009 6:07 PM CST up reply actions
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