Watching the Watchmen: The Sad Story of UT Basketball
Two weeks from today, Texas will have vanquished an overmatched opponent in front of thousands of fans. And I'm not talking about Baylor. While it seems like only yesterday that BON'ers were saying "TOO SOON" about talking about UT Basketball, the reality is that tip-off is nearly upon us. In only two short weeks, Rick Barnes and company will have thoroughly and soundly defeated the Anteaters of UC-Irvine at the Erwin Center.
Despite promises and guarantees to the contrary, no Stampede tickets have been sold for the game. The e-mail was *supposed* to come out last Monday. But it didnt. The e-mail was supposed to come out on Tuesday. But it didnt. The e-mail was supposed to come out "by the end of the week." But it didnt. As I sit here and type this post tonight, I'm still unable to purchase a Stampede pass for my final year on the Forty Acres.
While some of you will merely repeat the often stated "Texas is a FOOTBALL school" line and shrug your shoulders about this, that's the exact type of attitude that allowed this inaction to occur in the first place. The idea that student season tickets for football would be unsold less than two weeks prior to kickoff is simply inconceivable. I feel the same way about this delay for the Stampede tickets. For those of you who contacted me about this--I feel your pain, and this isnt ok.
But this isnt just a post about the Stampede. It's a post about how the Stampede e-mail situation simply represents the latest step in an impotent offseason of marketing the upcoming basketball season. Once again, this isn't ok.
This e-mail, which I received on Friday, represents the entire UT Basketball off-season in a nutshell.
I keep hearing this is the "best recruiting class ever" and I said "where are you hearing these things?" because I really haven’t heard any news other than Jai Lucas and the J'Covan (however you spell it) kid. For those of us who don’t listen to sports radio all the time, there is NO news about the team anywhere! Stupid.
Some of my friends have been far less charitable over describing the lack of news over the team. Let me reiterate that, as of right now, students are unable to buy student season tickets for basketball. For a point of comparison, last year's Stampede e-mail went out on October 8th. And yet, here we are in November, and no one at the Box Office can give a straight answer over what's going on. A systemic breakdown has occurred, and, in the fourth year of the system, it shouldnt be this hard.
Less I be mistaken, I dont mean to suggest this offseason would have been all sunshine and puppy dogs if the Stampede e-mail would have been sent out four weeks ago. The delay over the e-mail this year has served as a catalyst to expose the fecklessness of the entire promotional scheme over UT Basketball. While the e-mail itself didnt make everything ok, the lack of an e-mail has spotlighted the fact that NOTHING has happened towards marketing this team to the campus. That key fact remains the central thrust of this post.
For the diehards, we'll be there regardless, but I've been polling students about their knowledge of basketball right now. As of now, the average UT student has absolutely no idea about two key items:
1) The season starts in two weeks
2) This will be THE storybook season for UT Basketball
That's not good. And even though Texas is a "football school," this doesnt mean that all efforts to drum up support for basketball during the Fall Semester should be abandoned.. Especially not this season. Just like the new $100 million dollar movie, "This Is It" for UT Basketball. And, if you were going to market this team, there is no shortage of possibilities:
1) Dexter is officially a "star" around campus. He's the biggest non-football star on campus, and he's probably the third most "recognizable" athlete on campus, behind only Colt and Shipley.
2) While not on the level of Dexter, Damion James and Justin Mason are longtime stalwarts of the program who are pretty well-known.
3) In case you haven't heard, we have a pretty good recruiting class coming in.
In fact, considering that Texas is a football school, it would seem to be pretty important to build momentum for this storybook season before it starts, using any of the paint-by-numbers methods listed above. Instead, there has been NOTHING. Absolutely nothing. Nothing about Pittman. Nothing about the other seniors. Nothing about any of the recruits. There has been nothing. And that's not ok.
What's even more frustrating is the utter lack of creativity relating to any type of student promotions, prizes, giveaways, incentives, etc. I've previously criticized the Varsity Rewards Program, but the problems run even deeper. The idea that wristbands and Crocs will encourage students to go to games is laughable, but the more frustrating concepts relate to the ideas and promotions that arent even on the table.
For example, Texas has a major non-conference showdown against UNC on December 19th. I see tickets for this game advertised on ESPN.com nearly every single day. How hard would it be to slap together a promotion promising student tickets for that game--even for purchase--to all UT students who attend five non-conference basketball games during the Fall Semester? How hard would it be to put together a trip package for students who want to attend the game in Dallas?
Along those same lines, how hard would it be to milk the marquee games on the schedule for all they are worth? A commenter last week asked if I thought the Stampede pass would be "worth the money." I didnt get a chance to timely respond to the question, but the point should be hammered home to every student that the following teams will be coming to the Erwin Center--Michigan State, Kansas, Oklahoma. The KU-UT clash could be the biggest regular season home game in the last decade. The MSU game is probably in the top ten of the same list. I would pay $50 for a ticket to either game, and I suspect many of you would do the same. That means the Stampede pass pays for itself with only these two games. These marquee games should be milked for all they are worth by the marketing department, in both the Stampede and individual student ticket sense. And, by that, I dont mean they should be connected to attending a women's game against some directional school.
Some of you might say that putting together a program would cost money. That's not in dispute. But, when you consider that UT Athletics will sell 450 Stampede passes at $75 apiece, then suddenly a lot more options are put on the table. Simple math shows the Stampede program generates nearly $35,000 to pump back into the program. Besides receiving a t-shirt and being offered tons of stupid giveaways that I always refuse--I think I've turned down a straw hat each of the last six years--I have no idea where any this money is spent. I'm not asking for a refund, but I do think the money could be creatively used to generate more interest in the program. Based on this current offseason, I'm not holding my breath.
I could go on and on, but the point isn't what COULD happen as much as it is highlighting that NOTHING has happened. And, as I keep repeating, that's not ok.
Conclusion: I know many of you will simply write off this post as a tree falling in the forest when no one is looking. But I cannot sit idly by and pretend that this offseason of inaction and impotency is justifiable. There needs to be accountability, and I hope the BON community will continue providing it. Even if the e-mail goes out this morning, the delay needs to must be criticized and skewered.
It's a complete cop-out to simply say that Texas will never drum up sufficient interest for basketball. That might be true, but that doesn't mean that there shouldn't be efforts to generate excitement for the season. And that's exactly the type of attitude that has tacitly allowed this inaction to occur.
More stuff about actual basketball to follow later this week...
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agreed.... great post twister!
i cant believe the ath. dept. is doing this crap!
"We'll be baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!"
by greenspointexas on Nov 2, 2009 11:22 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Plenty of tickets available to all the big games on TxBO
it’s sad but the fan interest just isn’t there. I think the AD does have to shoulder the blame there for not doing a good job of selling the product to the masses, but we need to start getting the word out ourselves. demand information from media outlets. AAS, the sports stations, the local news channels.
austin needs to meet this team now and not in december when there’s a break in texas football.
3/19/2009 - Dogus Balbay Made a Three-Pointer. Never Forget.
by burrito on Nov 2, 2009 12:40 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Its a shame
I for one am in love with the basketball team. I have tickets to the MSU game, and will be purchasing the Kansas and OU tickets in the near future. its crazy because I accidently know were Mason lives at, and I had the opportunity of meeting him and Durant. I was a little star strucked I must admit. Can’t wait until this dream season begins
by Javi on Nov 2, 2009 12:47 AM CST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
rec'd
sad.
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by Blitzburgh on Nov 2, 2009 1:42 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Sad
If for no other reason this team is totaly loaded! Without trying to jinx anything this team has the chance to be the last one standing come march. I for one would love to see a bb championship sitting right next to the one we hope to have in football this year! I encourage everyone to support this team now! Don’t be the fan that looks up midseason and is like damn this team is good… get on the bandwagon now!
by IbleedBurntorange on Nov 2, 2009 3:18 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Great Post Twister
While I agree that Texas will prolly always be a football school – it is no excuse not to support and recognize the excellence that Barnes has brought to UT basketball. My God – we sell a billion in merch – that alone should be able to support that team.
by realmccoy on Nov 2, 2009 7:26 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Totally with you
When I was a student (graduated in ‘05), it was just as bad, and there was no Stampede back then, if i recall. Every student had to wait in line for hours, be told their ID didn’t scan, lose their place in line as they went to the ticket window to get their LASP status verified, and get relegated to the upper mezzanine. And they wonder why student support isn’t better.
Speaking of Dex, I was at the UT-Nebraska volleyball game Friday night, and he walked in with Avery Bradley. Everyone noticed. He looks fantastic. I’m expecting a big year.
by bassale47 on Nov 2, 2009 8:12 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
feel the same...
i was checking my inbox every 10 minutes to get the stampede tickets this past week
by justfr1day on Nov 2, 2009 9:21 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for keeping us updated twstr
My brother graduated in ’01 and I in ’06. We both have been frustrated in our times at UT with the lack of buzz the basketball program gets.
This does fall on Deloss ultimately. However, a full-time marketing person for the basketball program alone would pay for itself if generating more sales of stampede passes and just more ticket sales in general.
by SneezyBeltran on Nov 2, 2009 9:45 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
This is crazy
We have a genuinely elite basketball team. A team that could teach the Drum to be a raucous place to play every tip off. A team the will bring in more T.J Fords, Kevin Durants and Avery Bradleys. This is a team our kids will know about when they hear the history of UT basketball. I imagine you could easily fill the Drum with the amount of people that arrive late to football games and again with the people that leave early. They need to figure this out soon, because the Stampede tickets are just a symptom.
"I live in the tower with Coach Brown." -Bevo
by run Bevo run on Nov 2, 2009 9:49 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
The only reason Texas isn’t a basketball school is because it’s satisfied with being a football school. With a fanbase this size, facilities like these, piles of cash, and one of the premier staffs in the country, there’s no reason that, with a little effort, Texas couldn’t also be a basketball school.
It sounds like we need a grassroots effort, since the UT Athletics department doesn’t seem to have any interest in generating interest (or even attendance, apparently). This seems a bit ridiculous to me considering that building a diehard fanbase would generate more revenue, especially in non-elite years.
I don’t know what the correct course of action is. Whether it’s petitioning Deloss and company, organizing independent rallies, having representatives in each section of the arena to drum up the noise and excitement, whatever. Something needs to be done, because I love Texas basketball as much as I love Texas football, and I want it to be at the same level in terms of passionate fans and national prominence.
So lead the way, txtwstr, and I will follow (yes I’m nominating you).
by Meekrob on Nov 2, 2009 9:55 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Your comment...
…reminds me of one of the best military quotes of all-time, from General Patton.
“Lead me, Follow Me, or Get out of my Way.”
There are several existing committees, but, from my outside perspective, the problem appears to be a fear of failure. The “Roundball Roundup” was a disastrous failure, which probably set back any significant basketball promotions for several years. The fact that it was poorly timed, poorly advertised, and poorly executed is irrelevant—the only thing that matters is that it failed.
If the plan remains to just “stay the course”, then attendance will be good—not great—and everyone can just pat themselves on the back and blame it on the fact that we are a “football school.”
by txtwstr7 on Nov 2, 2009 12:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I put a large part of the blame on students.
Having attended both UT and UVA, the biggest difference in basketball marketing between the two schools was student involvement. There was a student group that would send emails, put up signs, and generally create buzz about the basketball team. Sure, the athletic department could do a better job of creating buzz among students, but what are the hard-core basketball fans doing?
by Texas Wahoo on Nov 2, 2009 10:34 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Yes and no
I agree with you, but only to an extent. Billions are spent on advertising and marketing because it works. You brand something, people consume it.
So there are multiple issues here:
1. Student apathy (long-standing)
2. Poor marketing (recent efforts)
3. No marketing (this year)
The latter two are the best way to get at the first one, and the second is better, at least, than the third. That said, it’s inconceivable that in a town like Austin, at a university like Texas, they cannot find a good person/people to brand this program. Fish in a barrel.
You ain't hurt.
by Peter Bean on Nov 2, 2009 6:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Proofread: Fail
No. 3 does nothing to get at student apathy.
You ain't hurt.
by Peter Bean on Nov 2, 2009 6:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Today's the day...
…it seems like, about an hour ago, the option to buy Student Season tickets on texasboxoffice.com was added to the website. However, there has been no accompanying announcement and the e-mail still hasnt gone out. They just put it up on the site. It’s just there, and it wasnt there last night.
I dont care if it is a coincidence or not…I just know that my tickets are bought.
by txtwstr7 on Nov 2, 2009 11:25 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I picture
a small storage closet at Bellmont that doubles as BBall Marketing and it’s contents are nothing but Ajax, spare toilet paper and a phone line.
by DaGoose on Nov 2, 2009 11:22 AM CST via mobile reply actions 0 recs
Email DeLoss' office?
You may already have before, but have you emailed DeLoss directly about this? He and the whole AD’s office should be very receptive if you craft even a decently worded email about your opinions. I did once about a football issue I had a few years back and got a reply from DeLoss himself and Chris Plonsky, the women’s AD/men’s and women’s athletics external services director.
I bet they’d give your thoughts some weight considering you’re the Wabash Cannonball badass of basketball.
by BigTexBD on Nov 2, 2009 11:26 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
I have not...
…but part of the point of this post is that I shouldnt have to send them an e-mail to politely ask for the option to buy tickets two weeks away from the start of the season.
Cool anecdote about Deloss, though…
by txtwstr7 on Nov 2, 2009 12:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
student tickets
have been problematic for the athletic department all year. student season tickets for football weren’t emailed out until less than a week before our first game. so it’s not just basketball taking a backseat to football.
as far as buzz and marketing, you really want people to get jazzed up for western carolina and uc irvine only to have a two week delay until the next home game? If you start hyping bball now, that buzz is going to fade fast. just like football and baseball, excitement for basketball builds as the season progresses. it’ll take dips after losses and swell after big wins.
the basketball fans know when basketball season is just like the baseball fans know when baseball season starts. each of our big three sports has their fans who prefer one to the others.
by the other Andrew on Nov 2, 2009 12:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
The e-mail for football tickets...
…went out in July. When they actually e-mail out the tickets is largely irrelevant, as long as they arrive before the first game. If they would have waited until two weeks—actually less now—before the season to start soliciting student ticket purchases, then their phone lines would have been overloaded with complaints. The situations aren’t comparable.
While I understand that the Athletics Department needs a longer time to process the football ticket purchases, I dont think that means the hype for basketball should start at a time period commensurate with how long it will take to process ticket requests. While I understand your point, I dispute the notion of characterizing basketball on the same level as baseball.
Do I want people jazzed up for Western Carolina and UC Irvine? Yes, I do. I want people jazzed up for every game this season. The problem—and this ties back to the post—is that the average fan doesnt understand why they should be jazzed up. Despite a multitude of viable options, there has been absolutely no promotion over this team whatsoever, and that’s not ok.
by txtwstr7 on Nov 2, 2009 2:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The Dagger
really liked this post, apparently. The problem is that they don’t read for content over there.
And let them know what’s up, please.
by mnHorn on Nov 2, 2009 3:02 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
this really does have to do with the students
While I agree with a lot of your post, I hate the Stampede and the entire idea behind it. The marketing office screwed themselves over with that idea, and the previous idea to discourage camping out for games. In the years right before the Stampede, UT basketball was actually getting more support. You had to camp out or have a group together camping to get even semi-decent seats for big games like A&M, OU, KU, OSU, and whatever big non-conference teams came to town. The Stampede did away with that. It was a horrible idea and completely killed the excitement that people had in the years before because it was simply an easy way to get more money out of students for tickets. You can still get into basketball games without the Stampede pass. Buying the LASP alone gets you tickets. I wish UT would just let the fans campout and be more like the other big basketball schools. If they wanna charge more for men’s bball tickets thats fine, but I just really don’t like that the Stampede causes people to buy tickets simply for the ability to get lower level seats for the bigger games while skipping all the others.
by suidreams on Nov 2, 2009 3:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
ridiculous
This post makes me angry. If I were still a student, I would have had a coronary over this entire situation.
Twister, I’m glad to see that what we talked about for 2+ hours on the way back from Greensboro is still just as big of a problem, if not more so. What will it take to make Bellmont care?
I also think this comment train needs more use of the word jazzed as an adjective.
by LonghornRoadTrip on Nov 9, 2009 12:51 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

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