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Colt McCoy is just one win away from history.

Texas quarterback Colt McCoy does not recall every detail from his initial conversation with coach Mack Brown about McCoy’s opportunity to become the winningest quarterback in NCAA history.

But he does remember one name that surfaced during the discussion.

"When coach Brown told me I was close to passing Peyton Manning, that’s what caught my attention," said McCoy, who has won 42 games as the Longhorns’ starting quarterback, three more than Manning managed in his career at Tennessee (1994-97).

It looks like the Heisman race is coming down to three players.

Colt McCoy, in third place, continues to trail the Southeastern Conference duo of Mark Ingram and Tim Tebow. The Alabama running back nabbed five first place votes, the burly Florida quarterback two.

The challengers to the Big Three continue to get picked off, one by one. Last week, it was Houston's Case Keenum, who went the way of Notre Dame's Jimmy Clausen and Miami's Jacory Harris.

The Acho brothers: Impressive, talented and hard to tell them apart.

If you squint a bit from the stands of Royal-Memorial Stadium, Sam Acho and his kid brother, Emmanuel, look almost like the same player.

After all, Sam, the Texas defensive end, is wearing No. 81. Emmanuel, the versatile linebacker, is 18.

"I almost get confused when watching us on film," Emmanuel said earlier this week as the third-ranked Longhorns prepared for Kansas.

The Horns secondary is very stingy.

"[We’ve gone] from getting picked on to nobody looking your way," Curtis Brown said. "It’s a good feeling but a boring feeling at the same time. It’s getting to the point where it’s a hard decision which side you want to throw to."

It’s becoming more difficult for opposing quarterbacks. The Longhorns are giving up just 181.9 passing yards per game (22nd in the nation), down from 259 a year ago. They’ve also intercepted 19 passes, compared to just six in 2008.

The Austin American-Statesman picks their top five Longhorns of all time.

The graduation rates for men's athletics are lagging once again.

The NCAA released its annual Graduation Success Rate report Wednesday, and the University of Texas' football, baseball and men's basketball programs did not get high marks.

For the four classes that entered from 1999-2002 — and in each case were given six years to graduate under NCAA guidelines — only 49 percent of Longhorns football players earned their degrees. None of the 25 schools listed in this week's BCS rankings, where Texas sits at No. 3, had a lower rate.

This should make you feel better.

Oklahoma's football team had the worst graduation rates in the Big 12 under the most recent data released by the NCAA.

According to figures released Wednesday by the NCAA, only 45 percent of the football players who enrolled at Oklahoma between 1999 and 2002 earned their degrees within six years. That period coincides with coach Bob Stoops' first four years as the Sooners' head coach.

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The Horns beat Western Carolina.

"They really get after you defensively," Western Carolina coach Larry Hunter said. "They don't make it easy on you."

At the other end, though, Texas (2-0) committed an unsightly 21 turnovers and missed 13 of 31 free throws.

Coach Rick Barnes said the Longhorns emphasized defense in practice earlier in the week.

"That's all we talked about," he said. "Obviously, we didn't talk about offense enough. We made it a whole lot harder than it needed to be."

Storming The Floor had a saucy game rap up:

Texas 73 - Western Carolina 41

Rick Barnes got to go deep into his bench for this one. We learn by making mistakes, and this game had plenty of those: freshman guard J'Covan Brown got laid out on a hard screen at one point, and had six turnovers to go with his 10 points. Stud newbie Avery Bradley shot an airball on his first try and finished with 4 points on the night. But where better to screw up and live to tell the tale than a blowout? Damion James was his usual assertive self, with 18 points, 7 boards, and a 2-3 evening behind the arc. Harouna Mutombo was the leading scorer for the WCU Catamounts, with ten. He also had one blocked shot; no word on whether he wagged his finger in the no-no gesture.

 Where Dexter goes, so go the Horns.

Barnes mentioned high expectations he has for Pittman. Things he’s not prepared to go public with right now. Should Big Dex live up to them, Texas’ already decent chance of being in the Final Four this season will soar.

Pittman literally has worked his rear off to get where he is today. But it has become evident through UT’s first two games that he’s also worked on his inside game.

J'Covan Brown is a work in progress.

Brown is one of the hardest workers on the squad, according to his teammates. Prior to Sunday’s game, he showed up three hours early to practice his shot. On Wednesday, Texas was scheduled to begin its pregame shootaround at 3:30 p.m., but Brown was there an hour beforehand and had a sweat going by the time Barnes walked down to the floor.

"The kid loves the game. He loves to play," Barnes said.

Perhaps all of that extra work is paying off for Brown. His turnovers are up, but so are his points and his minutes. For now, he is the team’s starting point guard — a role that is his to lose.

 

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When I searched YouTube for Texas A&M OU 2009, this is all I got for A&M highlights. Well, at least the band played well that day.

Lots of frustration in College Station. Mike Sherman has to curtail the blowouts.

Mike Sherman's final game as a Texas A&M assistant was memorable — for all of the wrong reasons.

Texas 51, A&M 15 in 1996 offered a fan base accustomed to winning a jolt — and the Aggies' worst loss of the R.C. Slocum era to that point. Slocum vowed his program, 6-6 in the first year of the Big 12, would improve. It did, winning the South Division the next season and its lone Big 12 title the year after.

As this decade winds down, however, the rarity of the '96 UT debacle has become more of the norm, as A&M fans have endured a slew of blowouts the past seven seasons.

 

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The Cornhuskers and Wildcats are getting giddy. The excitement is building for Saturday's North showdown.

Sometime before Saturday night's Nebraska game, Kansas State kicker Josh Cherry might need a chill pill.

Emotions already are high over a matchup that will decide the Big 12 North champion and K-State's bowl eligibility.

Now, add in that Cherry is from McCook, Neb., and grew up as a rabid Husker fan with his room decorated in wall-to-wall red.

"This game has so much riding on it,'' he said. "And then going back home and playing in front of so many friends and family, it's going to be unreal. I don't know if I can get enough tickets."

There is no way you cannot like Bill Snyder.

During each road game, he encourages players to leave thank-you notes for the hotel housekeeping staff.

"Treating people with respect," Gregory said. "It goes a really long way."

That’s what Snyder wants his team to project.

"He takes pride in us being men of character," Gregory said.

The Mangino death watch continues. Former players are coming out of the woodwork to talk about their experiences playing for Mark Mangino.

For Kansas University football coach Mark Mangino, the hits just keep on coming.

Among the allegations made by players interviewed by the Journal-World included:

Near-daily verbal attacks on players, in some instances involving personal matters that athletes felt went well beyond the boundaries of a player-coach relationship.

• Verbal abuse of assistant coaches, including a 2008 incident in which Mangino threatened the job of defensive coordinator Clint Bowen.

• Failing to disclose player injuries to the detriment of the team’s athletes.

• Players who left the program at least in part because of the negative environment they were subjected to.

• An incident during the 2006 season in which, according to former linebacker Joe Mortensen, Mangino put his hands on then-running backs coach Earle Mosley after one of the team’s running backs had failed to pick up a blitz during a game. Mosley later left the program and now coaches running backs for the New York Sentinels of the United Football League.

You know this isn't good. The player's parents are organizing.

KMBC's Karen Kornacki has learned that there are at least 20 families of current and former players who have been compiling information and will turn it over to the school during this investigation.

Some of the parents said that they have been documenting evidence of Mangino's temper over the years. They claimed that he has shown himself to be mean-spirited, vindictive and angry.

Mangino is sure the probe will clear him.

"I run this program with a lot of integrity," Mangino told the Kansas City Star without confirming the nature of the probe. "I have been in this conference for nearly 20 years, and what I can tell you is that our coaching intensity is not largely different from the rest of the Big Eight and Big 12 teams I've observed."

Rumors, rumors, rumors. No one really knows Dan Hawkins' fate.

Stoops vs. Stoops. Bob could meet Mike in a bowl game.

An Oklahoma-Arizona bowl game, matching the Brothers Stoops, is not out of the question. If both teams finish strong, they could meet in the Holiday Bowl. If both stumble, they could meet in the Sun Bowl.

Bob Stoops was saying the other day that he preferred not to play Mike’s Wildcats but it wouldn’t be a big deal.

The Big 12 just proposed a power grab.

One thing you have to like about the new bowl eligibility proposal introduced earlier this month by the Big 12: There's no ambiguity about it at all. Just raw, naked power being exercised for the good of the exercisers.

In other words, let's just call it the Baylor Bill and get it over with.

Dan Beebe, the Big 12 commissioner who introduced the idea to a shocking lack of national reaction, thinks it would be a grand idea if the bowl requirements for BCS teams would be lowered so that a 6-6 BCS team could take a bowl game spot from a seven-, eight- or even nine-win non-BCS team. Why? So that Baylor could go to the Motor City Bowl, I guess.

Sports Illustrated polled Big 12 fans. Here are the results.

 

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History remembers only the brilliant failures and the brilliant successes. -Randolph S. Bourne.

Franchione would be one of those brilliant failures. Dennis Franchione to UNLV?

Franchione's name has emerged as a leading candidate for the vacant job at UNLV, according to the Rebel Nation blog published in the Las Vegas Review-Journal.

According to the blog, sources indicated that Franchione has already inquired to school officials about the vacancy, created when Mike Sanford was fired earlier this week.

I got an annoying Twitter account just to follow these morons. The BCS is on Twitter.

"The SEC is revered to the point of being ridiculous," Jerry Palm said.

SI's Andy Staples doesn't have anything else to write about? He has mapped out TCU's BCS title chances.

 

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Condolences to Georgia fans. Uga VII died of heart-related causes.

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Mangino, Uga, aggie football. It is all so depressing

Thanks for balancing it out with news about Texas! Next 4 games: record setting game for Colt, then Big 12 south sweep, Big 12 championship and finally National Championship. All good news on the home front. Stay healthy horns!!!

Hook’em

by Ohio Horn on Nov 20, 2009 6:50 AM CST reply actions  

Mangino and the Aggies have brought a lot of their undoing on themselves, unfortunately, but Uga’s death is especially sad. He died young. I assume their heart problems are associated with the breathing issues the breed has.

by dimecoverage on Nov 20, 2009 8:41 AM CST up reply actions  

Colt

If Colt wins the Heisman, breaks the winning record, and wins the national championship… Does he become a top 5 Horn?

by Dawnpatrol on Nov 20, 2009 8:39 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

That's one of those questions that likely depends entirely on whom you ask

VY, Earl, Ricky, Nobis, Layne, Derrick Johnson, Metcalf, Gray, Williams (Roy and maybe Aaron in a few years), Vasher, Sims, Hampton, Shipley and a host of others mean any top five longhorns list will probably have more complaints than any top 25 ballot HB could possibly dream up.

proud to swim home

by learned hand on Nov 20, 2009 10:54 AM CST up reply actions  

Sims is NOT a top 5 longhorn

Sims is little more than an overgrown child. The way he behaved after losing a game was horrible: he could have thrown 10 INTs and he still would have found a way to blame EVERYONE ELSE except himself. And when they won, he took all the credit. Not to mention that he never lived up to all the hype. And it was so disappointing when Mack chose Sims as the starter over smart nice guy Major…who later proved the error of that decision by saving the Holiday Bowl that Sims tried so desperately to lose for us.

by Katie McBeast on Nov 21, 2009 1:32 PM CST up reply actions  

I think he was probably referring to Kenneth Sims.
Defensive End, 1978-1981
Awards: Consensus All-American, 1980-1981; All-SWC, 1980-1981; Lombardi Trophy, 1981

by dimecoverage on Nov 21, 2009 1:41 PM CST up reply actions  

That one, the first ever Lombardi award winner for Texas

and a man who spells his last name with only one “m”. As opposed to a certain much maligned quarterback who spells his name with one more letter.

proud to swim home

by learned hand on Nov 22, 2009 6:36 AM CST up reply actions  

Heisman

Here’s Colt’s best shot: Florida wins the SEC championship. Texas wins out as Colt plays his usual standout games through the Big XII championship. That sets up Florida v. Texas, Tebow. McCoy, Heisman winner v. Heisman winner — sound familiar? Yeah, the same scenario that won Bradford his Heisman last year. I’m betting Heisman voters will go for the melodrama yet again.

by NYCHorn on Nov 20, 2009 8:43 AM CST reply actions  

I'd rather not win the Heisman

Because it’s a curse. Recent Heisman winners whose team lost in the title game: Bradford, Bush White (among others). Additionally, in 2005, it could have been Lienart vs. Young, Heisman vs. Heisman…but they didn’t do that, they gave it to Bush.

by Katie McBeast on Nov 21, 2009 1:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Anyone else still bitter about the VY Heisman snub?

This news update just got me thinking that he lost the Heisman to the incompetent defense of Fresno State, effectively. Now, 2005, there was a year with a clearly dominant player, and even then, the voters f*cked it all up.

This year, at least we know what the judges are looking for. I found a Judge’s Scoring Rubric for the 2009 Heisman.:
  
1. If either player bleeds or cries on the sideline, then harnesses this excretory outburst to drive his team to victory, automatic Heisman.

2. If either player can circumsize or malaria-inoculate a third world baby during the upcoming Thanksgiving holiday, Heisman.

3. Any player pulled from the game in the third or early fourth quarter, after leading his team to a blowout victory, SHALL BE PENALIZED.

4. Any player unable to build a lead, and forced as a result to stay in the entire game, SHALL BE REWARDED FOR HIS LEADERSHIP AND HEART.

5. Famous post-loss press conference speeches from previous seasons are admissible criteria.

6. Any all-time, college career records are not admissible unless qualified by statements about the weakness of the conference in which said records accrued.

7. Voters must find that flaccid performances against Arkansas and Vanderbilt are per se more impressive than strong performances against Missouri, Texas Tech, or UTEP.

8. Judges will reward the following: fist pumping, pre-offensive series screaming, post-touchdown stomping/screaming, leaving mud on the face (as opposed to just wiping it off), taking on defenders regardless of the relative benefit at stake, and finally, leg-whip throwing motions.

by Kool Hand on Nov 20, 2009 10:54 AM CST reply actions  

grad rates

doesn’t the rates include the players who don’t graduate because of transfer, leaving early for the NFL, NBA or MLB. Plus once the use up their 4 years of eligibility when they get put on a 6 year track plan, the good players will leave for the pro’s then anyway or if they can’t play football anymore descide to not finish school. Would their scolarships run out after their sport eligibility is over or can the players finish school under the scholarship. I’ve always hear of athletes that do well in the classroom.

by Ryan2907 on Nov 20, 2009 11:26 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

Parents' Mangino Attack Squad
They claimed that he has shown himself to be mean-spirited, vindictive and angry.

If only they’d hired Herm Edwards, maybe they’d have won some games.

by burntorangehorn on Nov 20, 2009 12:27 PM CST reply actions  

Mangino

It’s a shame that tough coaches can’t be tough. Wow, for pointing his finger at a player who was out of line. The KU football team must have a bunch of Nancy cupcakes on thier squad.

by Ryan2907 on Nov 20, 2009 1:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Go read some of the crap Mangino used as 'motivation'....

The dude is a grade-A prick. To use the military analogy…he would be the guy who gets shot by his own troops. If he thought he was being tough, fine, but then if his players thought is wasn’t being tough but being a total dick then I wouldn’t blame them for giving up on him just to watch his sorry ass get tossed to the curb. He didn’t abuse his players to make them better, he abused them to make himself feel better. It sounds like a lot of them got that and they decided they had a greater incentive to lose for their hated coach than to try and win for each other.

by Rickyspub on Nov 20, 2009 1:55 PM CST up reply actions  

He has specific problems.

Mangino swallows a lot of aggression… along with a lot of pizzas.

by billb on Nov 20, 2009 2:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Stripes - nice!

Makes me smile and remember the good old movies.

by Orangetower87 on Nov 20, 2009 10:23 PM CST up reply actions  

It's FAR more than that

He’s being accused of physically tackling a player and having to be dragged off by coaches and players. If the finger pointing were an isolated incident, I would totally agree with you. But the fact is, it isn’t isolated by any stretch of the imagination. Mangino deserves absolutely all the crap he’s going through right now.

by GoHorns on Nov 20, 2009 1:57 PM CST up reply actions  

That's why I said "accused"

The accusations are far and wide. There’s also information now being surfaced from his first HS head coaching job in PA of the parents there going to the school board and asking for him to be fired for a slew of reasons. One was making the injured players clean the locker room (including urinals) because “they should be doing something”.

If you take all of these incidents at face value (just the ones that have already been proven), sure, they seem quite minor in scope. But when you add them up, collectively, Mangino is a giant ass (no pun intended).

It’s still very early in the investigation into these accusations so right now, all you’re going to get is rumor and heresay for most of these accusations. But the reality is, some of this is going to stick.

by GoHorns on Nov 20, 2009 2:08 PM CST up reply actions  

There's too much smoke for there to be no fire

But really, what’s the complaint? That he doesn’t treat the student-athletes like grownups? That he belittles them like so many coaches do, but perhaps more frequently and possibly more harshly?

by burntorangehorn on Nov 20, 2009 2:34 PM CST up reply actions  

At what point does it become indefensible?

That’s really the question. It’s not a matter of a single incident that makes the harsh comments indefensible. It’s the collection of hate spewed, intimidation, and unwaranted vitriol. If one of your superiors constantly belittled you, even if it were your fault, how much would you take? How much would be appropriate?

At what point do we draw the line and say : “OK, back the f#*$ off me!”? That’s the point the parents, students, players, and administration have come to (from what I’ve read). Are you defending him just to defend him? Or are you saying it’s completely ok to make someone feel like shit for anything and everything they do?

by GoHorns on Nov 20, 2009 3:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Yikes

BOH and I went down a similar road this week, but it was about wearing pink/breast cancer support and I made it much more personal. (sorry boh, I looked for your email to apologize directly and didn’t find one)
I don’t think BOH is defending him as much as, I think he is using this as a forum to bounce ideas off each other. I think BOH’s sentiment is, it’s probably a dogpile situation and everyone is getting their shots in, while the topic is in the forefront.
But, since I was so bold as to speak for him, I may be wrong.

"I live in the tower with Coach Brown." -Bevo

by run Bevo run on Nov 21, 2009 8:24 AM CST up reply actions  

This sums it up

And thanks for the post.

I really do think Mangino has done some stuff that he shouldn’t have, and as I put it earlier, there’s too much smoke for there to be no fire. There are almost certainly some people with legitimate gripes, but I do think a lot of people are probably just lining up to grind their axes. I think the question is whether or not there are some things that crossed the line so grossly that KU should fire perhaps their most successful football coach of our lifetime.

by burntorangehorn on Nov 21, 2009 9:26 AM CST up reply actions  

That's what I'm thinking

While I’ve never known anyone who has had Mangino as a coach, but the impression I’ve gotten is that players were a little coddled under Terry Allen and Glenn Mason. But I don’t think that’s the problem. I don’t doubt that Mangino is a lot tougher than most, which is probably part of the problem, but a lot of the players aren’t from the tough HS programs where football coaching is as tough as what I imagine it’s like in Texas HS programs (I honestly don’t know—I played in KS myself).

by burntorangehorn on Nov 20, 2009 1:58 PM CST up reply actions  

You can be tough

Without dogging on kids for their alcoholic fathers, or friends getting shot back home.

Just sayin, its apparent to me coach could use some tact.

by BoddickerIsClutch on Nov 20, 2009 2:18 PM CST up reply actions  

I think the friend comment is appropriate

Not sure about the father one. The reason I think the friend comment probably is appropriate is that it gives a kid perspective. Getting out of the hood to go get a college education and play football should be a big deal.

by burntorangehorn on Nov 20, 2009 2:36 PM CST up reply actions  

i thought it was his brother who was shot recently prompting that comment? i could be wrong.

by Displaced Longhorn on Nov 20, 2009 2:47 PM CST up reply actions  

It was the brother.

I’ve had several relatives go through Texas HS programs and a few went to play at the collegiate level. None have experienced Mangino’s type of psychological degradation (alledged) at any level. Their coaches were tough, but nothing like what is being reported. And no, those programs didn’t coddle the players.

by dimecoverage on Nov 20, 2009 3:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Speaking in general terms ok

But it was obvious he was making the remark due to a very personal event. That is what is over the line.

Like when as a kid you make fun of someones Mother, and its all fun and games until the kid is crying and you find out their mother passed away. Too far over the line. Again, you can be tough without being abusive, and when its personal, thats abusive.

by BoddickerIsClutch on Nov 20, 2009 3:21 PM CST up reply actions  

I honestly have no idea what the situation is with the one kid. I thought the comment just took aim at the rough area where he lived before KU, but it certainly depends a little on the circumstances.

by burntorangehorn on Nov 21, 2009 9:26 AM CST up reply actions  

lavarr arrington

was talking about this point on radio up here in dc yesterday. he said those types of comments can be appropriate and motivating IF the coach has a father-son type relationship with his players, which is not uncommon. sort of a “wake up and realize how important it is for you to step up now and do whatever it takes to succeed in this program.” however, based on what i am hearing from other players, sounds like they generally hate him.

by Orangetower87 on Nov 20, 2009 10:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Thank God For Mack Brown

That stuff by Mangino is embarrassing. Good riddance Mangino.

by realmccoy on Nov 20, 2009 9:48 PM CST reply actions  

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