Poor, Disillusioned aggies
by adt2 on Nov 22, 2009 6:55 PM CST
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PrintFrom today's "What Bowl Game Would You Like to Go To?" post over at the I Am The 12th Man blog:
If we played in the Texas Bowl, we'd face a Navy team featuring the flexbone offense. The advantage there is that the whole "former military school playing a current military school" storyline would really appeal to the media.
I am wondering: Do the aggies understand that they are not, in fact, a military school? Do they understand that they are the only university in the country with a standing corps of cadets (snicker), but no actual affiliation with an actual branch of an actual military service?
More importantly, do they understand that they could be matched up against the national champions of the under-twenty lingerie football league in a game that kicks off at midnight on New Year's Eve from Yankee Stadium, and it wouldn't appeal to the media because Texas A & M football is crappy and irrelevant? Do they understand that, if it wasn't for Texas, the game Thursday wouldn't even be on television because who the hell wants to come to College freaking Station?
Or are they just that mind-bogglingly stupid?
(In the interest of full disclosure, I should tell you that I found myself banned from their little blog today, which I find funny because I haven't posted over there in a couple of weeks, and I don't recall being particularly nasty when I did post. Whatever. After Thursday, I don't have to think about aggies for a whole year.)
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confusion
aggies are confused about what the “m” in a&m stands for. someone should let them know it doesn’t stand for “military” it stands for “mechanical”
lol... why so serious?
man, i think you’re taking it too seriously. Everyone is free to write whatever he thinks, especially in the Internet and on your own team’s blog.
Though, I could see the anger coming from a person who actually went to a war or a real military school.
I dont think hes angry, hes just pointing out another way A&M fans have completely lost sight of reality.
"Dont yall think that crystal beautiful yall?" -Vince Young
by Texastriplecrown on Nov 22, 2009 8:43 PM CST reply actions
Why is everyone so quick to judge?
He only stated it as a media storyline. It’s not like he declared “it would be a bout between the great military schools of our time”
I have never heard an Aggie brag about how A&M is a military school or should be treated like one. I believe 10% or less of students are in the Corps.
The truth is that A&M is a Senior Military College, and is one of three public universities with a full-time, volunteer Corps of Cadets. It provides more commissioned officers the US Armed Forces than any other school outside of the service academies. -Wikipedia (sadly)
In 1918, the entire Senior class enlisted.
Many Aggies again served in the military during World War II, with the college producing 20,229 combat troops. Of those, 14,123 Aggies served as officers, more than any other school and more than the combined total of the United States Naval Academy and the United States Military Academy.
Now, I think A&M football right now is pretty much off the map, but the military story lines are a legitimate media story. Just like it was when the Aggies played Army in San Antonio in 2006.
I wish I could ban you and beergut
Don’t come on here acting civil and pretend that both of you don’t act like the Aggie d-bags on your own blog.
You are not military. Your university is not military. Stop pretending you are West Point. Accept you farmer designation and leave the representation of Texas to the flagship institution of this great state located in the state capital.
We’re fucking Texas. You are FARMERS.
Begin hate week.
Oh and fuck Kellen Heard.
Your tongue can't repel flavor of that magnitude!!
by UT2001 on Nov 22, 2009 9:07 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
No matter how many ’F’s you use as verb, noun or adjective, you can beat us on the football field but you cannot take the accomplishments of our grand past and our traditions away from us.
Oh! and i was kidding when i said you can beat us on the football field.
Hello? Hello, Aggie? Think, Aggie ,Think.
Well YUMC, my Delorean and I are headed back to1939 all the way back to your only national championship to sabotage the game. After I display some serious shit by going 88 MPH, I’m gonna turn Kyle Field into Lone Pines mall.
P.S. Bucky Richardson was a slacker! A slacker!
Your tongue can't repel flavor of that magnitude!!
74-36-5
will be 75 on Thursday. 76 one year from Thursday. 77 2 years from Thursday. Should I keep going?
i guess we could live in the past
but i think the record is 2-1 aggies over the past 3 years as well if you go back to 30 years then the record is right around 15-15.
There's something spiritual about baseball — like Mother Nature," Garrido said. "You don't mess with it. And I think before a player can really believe in it, he has to experience it."
by dmurphnextrusygreer on Nov 23, 2009 7:59 AM CST up reply actions
Hilarious
Take a look at this.
Notice the Mack Brown Era. Now notice the David McWilliams/John Mackovic Eras. If only we’d kept them employed for another five decades, UT fans might take this “rivalry” seriously. Instead, we realize A&M did a very good job of kicking the program while it was down. So did Baylor.
proud to swim home
by learned hand on Nov 23, 2009 8:34 AM CST up reply actions
Also
This should be mentioned.
http://ncaafootball.fanhouse.com/2007/07/26/dirtiest-football-programs-3-texas-aandm/#cont
proud to swim home
by learned hand on Nov 23, 2009 8:51 AM CST up reply actions
Big 12 South AKA Dirty South?
Anybody look at the full top ten list?
1. Texas Tech
2. Oklahoma
3. Texas A&M
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9. Oklahoma State
So the only clean programs are UT and the Baptists…
Well, Tech and A&M have cleaned up their acts significantly
Tech was letting guys like Hanspard (he of the perfect zero GPA) compete in the late 90’s. There was almost no connection between football and academics during that era of Tech football. Now, their grad rate is significanly higher than the grad rate for the general student body. This says good things about Mike Leach and less than positive things about the rest of the University.
A&M reached their undefeated (but tied) season mountain top, only to have a legit chance of longstanding glory cut down by their own corruption.
In any case, most of the infractions were in the last days of the decaying SWC. Still, it is amusing that the Aggies only managed to reverse positions in the rivalry when their team turned professional.
proud to swim home
by learned hand on Nov 23, 2009 12:31 PM CST up reply actions
Dude what the hell
Funny jokes are fine, but bringing bonfire into the joke is classless.
And for everyone else, Carsondude is probably the most civil Aggie who gets on BON.
Get off your knees Greg, you're blowin' the game.
low class
that is not how Longhorns act. i despise the aggies but that is sickeningly callous.
by Orangetower87 on Nov 23, 2009 11:58 AM CST up reply actions
I can promise you
I have never been anything but civil. I have been a BON member for years, you should look at my track record before throwing out insults.
I haven’t looked at your record, but I’m just going to assume that if that post is a good predictor, I know what I’ll find.
wait...what?
you should look at my track record before throwing out insults.
I haven’t looked at your record, but I’m just going to assume that if that post is a good predictor, I know what I’ll find.
3/19/2009 - Dogus Balbay Made a Three-Pointer. Never Forget.
by burrito on Nov 22, 2009 11:38 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
When someone uses
the F-word twice and d-bag, why even bother?
I come presenting facts and he comes with insults. If that’s the way it’s going to work, why even take the time to respond? It’s just a worthless battle at any point.
I apologize
I couldn’t even tell you were an aggie from your first post, and I apologize for his dumbass comments. I’m not sure if he is just trying to be funny or just try and provoke ya’ll, but he obviously doesn’t even attend the University of Texas. But YUMC we’ll see this week… can’t wait to blow ya’ll out! And thats right… THE University of Texas.
\m/ Hook ’em HORNS!!!!!!
It would be funny to have a club whose members...
…were only people that had been banned by ‘I am the 12th Man’.
The club would soon be larger that the total number of people posting there.
That blog’s articles are pretty much solely written by people names ‘Beergut’, and its last 5 fanposts were posted:
-10 days ago
-20 days ago
-25 days ago
-27 days ago
-about one month ago.
Of course the last 5 FanPosts on BON were all posted in the last day.
I had an amusing thought about what might happen Thursday night… Beergut gets a little crazy after the Aggie loss and is banned from ‘I am the 12th Man’. He could then join our new club ! The downside is that he would probably spend all his time here on BON. :-0
by jimjar on Nov 22, 2009 11:18 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
The Cadets
Most of those guys only know how to scream enough to make their forehead vein bulge out like an aggie’s crotch at a John Deere factory. I didn’t bust my ass and serve in the United States Navy so these jerk offs could claim to belong to some sort of military without ever even seeing any REAL military action. Instead of just yelling and doing push-ups twice a game every time your team scores…………… enlist.
You can't spell COCKSUCKER without OU.
by nathantx57 on Nov 23, 2009 12:36 AM CST reply actions 3 recs
You do some research
And no, Wikipedia doesn’t count as research.
Most corps members never serve one second in the military. They join the corps because a) it’s the only way they can get into A&M, b) they think it makes them cool, or c) both of the above. Face it; It’s the biggest frat on campus.
You have more commissioned officers than the 3 public schools that, for whatever reason, have a corps of cadets rather than a normal ROTC program. Congrats.
by bassale47 on Nov 23, 2009 6:44 AM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Owned
Have fun at the Sun Chips Failure Bowl carsondude.
"Stats are for losers, I like winning games."
by SuperBentley on Nov 23, 2009 1:59 PM CST up reply actions
Sure
When you show me how the Corps cannot be respected and we should laugh at all who are included, then you can call me “owned”. But bassale47’s opinions sadly do not overturn the facts.
I'm still waiting for some facts
You insult my research and yet provide no sources of your own. At least wikipedia can do that.
I don’t understand why other schools have such a problem with the Corps. I’m not a huge fan and never considered joining. But to discredit a nationally recognized program that has given so many soldiers, officers, generals, and lives for this country just seems ridiculous and disrespectful.
No one is arguing (at least I’m not) that the program IS the military or is equal to a military academy, but it is a respectable program. I just don’t see how that can be in question. No one has provided any facts on why we should discredit or disrespect the program.
From the corps website itself
“Most cadets graduate with an Academic Certificate in Leadership Studies along with their selected degree and begin careers in business, non-profit or government. Many, however, become commissioned officers and join one of the military services.”
http://www.aggiecorps.org/about-the-corps/the-texas-aam-corps-of-cadets.html
It’s not Wikipedia or anything, but there you go … most cadets get regular jobs after they graduate rather than joining the military. And ANY college graduate, whether they joined the corps, an ROTC program, or were just regular students, would be commissioned as an officer if they joined the military and went through officer boot camp.
This thread isn’t about “disrespecting” or “discrediting” the corps; we are simply discrediting the notion that A&M is even remotely a military school or that the corps has anything at all to do with the military. Some of it’s members go on to serve in the military; most do not. There are your facts.
100% agreed
BG said that the media would pick up on the Military background of A&M and the obvious military background of Navy. He was shot down for this because “A&M is not a military school”. I simply said:
“Now, I think A&M football right now is pretty much off the map, but the military story lines are a legitimate media story. Just like it was when the Aggies played Army in San Antonio in 2006.”
Read the first paragraph of this article: “Texas A&M and Army will merge their military traditions before their football teams meet in the sold-out Alamodome on Saturday night.”
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2589054
Just as BG predicted, the media does pick up on this storyline.
I think we have gotten off track. I know you have good intentions. BTW, Bass Ale. My favorite drink is a Black & Tan. It’s sometimes the only way I will drink beer. Bass is some good stuff.
by carsondude on Nov 23, 2009 7:56 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
please take over iamthe12thman
The swine flu takes a Will Muschamp shot every September.
by pleaseplaykindle on Nov 24, 2009 1:04 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I like a good Bass as well nt
"A lot of people look for the easy way to do anything, in swimming there is no easy way." - Eddie Reese
I think some of the traditions lend themselves to lampooning
But overall, I see no reason to actually disrespect the corps. It’s actually a neat thing, for those who are into that sort of thing. It’s not the real military, so as long as no one makes the claim that they are, no problem.
Then again, I also consider the Citadel, VT, US Military Academy, US Naval Academy, and US Air Force Academy kids to not be real military, because the vast majority of them has never served a day in the military yet either.
by burntorangehorn on Nov 25, 2009 11:47 AM CST up reply actions
Way out of my element here
but I would put my ROTC roommate who served 5 years as a nuke well above someone who acts like they are in the military for 4 years and then does not serve. I feel the military academies should get the same respect.
THIS IS THE STORY HERE!!!!!!
I like to consider myself informed but Nathantx57 and Bassale47 have truly made the most important point here and opened my eyes. I can not emphasize this enough!!
Perhaps I didn’t know the Corps was FAKE and NOT affiliated with any branch of the US military because I only give the cult that is A&M about 10 minutes of thought before THE University of Texas throttles them annually.
WTF!!?? Carsondude, I guess you’re civil (according to kriess) & I assume rational. But you called them out for facts and they shoved some some right in your grill.
Most cadets graduate with an Academic Certificate in Leadership Studies along with their selected degree and begin careers in business, non-profit or government.
That is right from the Corps website.
The Corp is FAKE, FAKE, FAKE!!!!! I HAD NO IDEA!!! I am so PISSED because three years ago I brought my daughters back to Austin for the A&M game and when the Corps marched up Congress, I guess I did not show proper respect. Some hugely overweight, hideous looking, teeth-missing Aggie woman (I’m not making that up) admonished me and told me these boys would be going to serve our country in Iraq soon. So I did not continue whatever it was I was doing.
The truth is only a small percentage of them would be going to Iraq.
Jesus nathantx57 I would be pissed too! Thank you for enlisting and actually serving not PRETENDING to serve.
so,
When is the Under Twenty Lingerie Bowl again? It sounds like something my Tivo might rec’ to me.
"It's comin' home to Texas. It's comin' home all the way back to Awwwstin, Texas, baby!" -VY
I visited some aggie friends of mine right after I got out of boot camp.
Several buddies from high school went to aggieland to be in the band. Upon graduation from Marine Corps boot camp, I went and spent a weekend with them on-campus, in the band dorm (which was, of course, full of corps goobers).
Watching these guys pretend to be in the military was an absolute riot. The upper classmen would come in all screaming and yelling and spit flying and veins bulging, and then they’d realize that I wasn’t in fact in their little club, and then somebody would point out that I was an actual Marine, and then they would sort of trail off and shrink a little and skulk down the hallway to the next room to scream at someone else. When I walked out of the room and down the hall, they moved to the side.
I’m sure my buddies paid for it later, but for the weekend I was there, they were pretty much above all the juniors’ and seniors’ faux-military shenanigans. What a bunch of assclowns those guys are.
It goes without saying that I hope we absolutely embarass the aggies Thursday night.
Really? Does my signature suck?
by adt2 on Nov 23, 2009 7:36 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
wow
When I walked out of the room and down the hall, they moved to the side.
I’m sure you were a baaaaaaaaaaaaad ass. [/rolleyes]
I doubt anyone was as impressed with you as you were with yourself.
I'm Impressed He Actually Served in a Military Branch not the FAKE CORP
I’m thoroughly impressed that adt2 actually served in the Marines!!
Unlike that FAKE FAKE CORPS, which is really just a big fraternity.
I believe every word of that story. A zit-faced goober playing pretend military games would obviously avoid and defer to someone who completed Marine boot camp.
Aggie Corps. Goobers playing army. What a joke!
Question of the day
What exactly is an Aggie anyway? OK, it’s someone who goes to A&M, but is it the mascot supposed to be a soldier? Or a farmer? Or maybe a collie? Most school mascots personify some wild animal (longhorns, bears, cougars) or historical figure (cowboys, sooners, raiders), but the Aggie seems to represent just the people who attend A&M. They are named after themselves!
So is there really a division of the military concerned with agriculture? And what about the other half of ‘A&M’? Are there Mechies there too?
Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.
You ask questions that require logic. Aggies defy logic. If you ask this of an Aggie, would their head implode or explode?
Both. Simultaneously.
Because that in and of itself would defy logic.
"Either we need to re-calibrate our rectangle, or Alfonzo Marquez is not having a good night." - Josh Lewin
by utlonghorn24 on Nov 23, 2009 2:21 PM CST up reply actions
friends,
Maybe this is something that everyone but me has seen before, but this is hilarious.
An Aggie’s predictions for 2009.
"It's comin' home to Texas. It's comin' home all the way back to Awwwstin, Texas, baby!" -VY
Quite good indeed.
Its really funny how he hasn’t said anything for a while.
oh man.... that is some good stuff!!!
my favorite part – “… he’s Vince Young ON STEROIDS!!!! Ah, except he’s not on steroids…”
I'm an Aggie,
and even I think that guy is ridiculous. Most Aggies do. I also find it sad that this rivalry always ends with this back and forth, as we are both better than it. Glad to see some class after that bonfire comment though, that’s the one comeback that pisses me off the most.
I love to come here during UT v. aTm week to read the comedy…a misguided aggie trying to convince a board full of Longhorns of, well, anything is kinda funny…that is all
There's a theory
floating around that some of those aggie posts are really just practical jokes. But who knows…
By the way, congrats on demolishing OU.
Yes, Everyone
knows we aren’t a military school.
A lot of people on campus aren’t even huge fans of the corps.
I feel like most of you people don’t actually know what most Aggies are like.
My Two Best Friends from High School Went to A&M
Most of us do know what Aggies are like because we are friends with you, or work with you or, god forbid, marry you.
Most Aggies are good peeps, who are rational and credible, as well as kind and thoughtful.
We just wish your mouthbreathers weren’t so vocal and visible a minority.
by JRPasadena on Nov 25, 2009 10:48 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Do the aggies understand that they are not, in fact, a military school?
Do you understand what the word “former” means?
Do they understand that they are the only university in the country with a standing corps of cadets (snicker), but no actual affiliation with an actual branch of an actual military service?
I guess you have never heard of The Citadel, Virginia Tech, or VMI? All have a Corps of Cadets, with no direct affiliation with a military branch outside of ROTC.
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