t.u., saw-em off, or horns down?
by 2Cor12:9 on Nov 29, 2009 8:27 PM CST
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PrintSo I was in aggieland on Thanksgiving for the game and I saw all of the usual suspects (except Kiser Sosay) when it comes to disrespecting the horns. Lot's of saw-em off shirts, beat t.u. shirts and then practically the whole stadium putting the horns down. So my question to you fellow horns is which bothers you the most? Personally the horns down is the one I dislike the most and the reason is because every school we play regardless of sport and regardless of score does it. I still remember the Mizzou WR who thought he had a TD towards the end of the 1st half last year at DKR and trailing 35-0 put the horns down only to have the play reversed by replay. Saw-em off and t.u. don't bother me as much because they are simply an aggie thing and they think somehow it hurts our feelings to refer to us as texas university.
I realize that by my announcing this to the SBNation will only increase the horns down by our opponents, but I say any publicity is good publicity.
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Aggie's disrespect
All those things do is make them look bad. Very bad. It shows why they are where they’re at and not better then they could be. It’s not just disrespect, it’s just wrong and unsportsmanlike. With the Big 12 having the sportmanship ad blitz, you would think they would try to confront this issue. “T.U” is probably third on the list which is just an annoyance and shows their stupidity (which to me, doen’t even make since). I say that the A&M really stands for Apes and Monkeys or Asses and Morons.
really?
“wrong and unsportsmanlike?” It’s a rivalry, man. You sound VERY Aggie about this. If you’re going to get your little feelings hurt, you shouldn’t participate. Listen, am I annoyed by people that say, “t.u.?” Of course, because it is like being made fun of by an 8-year-old. It is so moronic that there is no appropriate response to it. The only response is to debase ourselves by sinking to their child-like level. I won’t do it, and you shouldn’t either. Let’s certainly not ruin our mascara by crying about it like a pre-pubescent girl.
"I don't care if I have to run100 times or pass it 100 times...Whatever it takes to win is all that matters to me" -VY
by 2100 San Jac on Nov 30, 2009 10:52 AM CST up reply actions
Sportsmanship matters
more to some people than others. I agree with Ryan2907 – and not because it is about Texas, but because I think you can play hard, want to crush your opponent, and still not have to resort to cheap shots (players), running up the score (coaches) or talking trash in public (fans). And your comments are ridiculously personal and low-class.
by Orangetower87 on Nov 30, 2009 11:52 AM CST up reply actions
i agree that sportsmanship matters
i just don’t take any of these things as a matter of sportsmanship. Sportsmanship is shaking hands after a game. It is not taunting players after you score on them. It is playing the game the right way. The things mentioned on this post are silly rivalry jabs that are irrelevant to sportsmanship. I just think when you are king (and we are) you need to have a little thicker skin, and not get so bent out of shape about some rivalry poking.
"I don't care if I have to run100 times or pass it 100 times...Whatever it takes to win is all that matters to me" -VY
by 2100 San Jac on Nov 30, 2009 1:09 PM CST up reply actions
Only time it REALLY made me mad
was when Houston Nutt threw the Horns down a few years ago. What a jackass.
Other than that, none of this stuff bothers me a bit. It just shows how stupid other people are.
Hook 'em
I really can't remember seeing that much, if at all, before then
Question: was that pretty much the first time that was widely publicized?
by burntorangehorn on Nov 30, 2009 7:03 AM CST up reply actions
It was around long before then
but it was the first time I can remember a coach do that. Can’t think of too many other coaches that would be that stupid. Most intelligent coaches would rip into any player making that sign (at least if the game was still being played). The coach himself should know better.
I don't really care too much
but I saw a lot of aggies do horns down when Deon Beasley was still laying on the ground and that made me sick.
None
-They are Aggies.
-We lead the all-time series 77-36-5 – and that’s just football.
-For every $1 they get from the Permanent University Fund, we get $2.
-If Austin isn’t the best city in Texas, the USA or the world, it’s still a heck of a lot better than whatever pasture they’re located in.
I could go on for hours…
So they can do whatever they want. Have as many male cheerleaders as they want. Wear as many overalls as they want and I don’t get offended by any of their silly attempts to mock us.
I do think the inverted Horn is lame. It just shows that those schools don’t have enough creativity to come up with their own hand gestures. Even Baylor and the rest of the SWC got this right and had their own hand gestures. I’ll credit OU with the popularization of this lame alternative. I prefer to sing my alma mater with our own hand gesture.
I think
the thing that frustrates me more is when USF does the Hook ‘Em sign. Seriously, we’ve(UT Alum, current students and fans) have been doing it since ’55, a year before USF was even founded.
The "Big Bang" was actually a Will Muschamp chestbump......with the Earth!
It's interesting horns down leads at 75%
I’ve always seen the horns down as bittersweet since teams use it in lieu of their own hand signals. Does anyone in aggieland still “gig ’em?” It’s really imitation as the sincerest form of flattery.
Texas '06.
Gig em would refer to TCU way back when.....
Everything for the aggies is Texas based. No sense in changing it now……
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Annoying? None. I think it's Awesome.
We’re so good, and have been so good for so long, that they hate us with a passion. Hey, if no one’s gunning for you, or hating you, then you’re not #1. This is why no one gives a crap about an “Aggie”. Who would bother? I say, the more “Horns Down” there is, the better. It just makes the PAIN AND SUFFERING they have to go through after their team loses another game to us all the more intense. I mean, I get sick to my stomach when we lose, but can you imagine them losing after all the investment they’ve put into hating us? It’s delicious.
In-VINCE-able.
The most entertaining sight is watching an OU game when we aren’t playing them. They still do the horns down.
They still think of us when they play other teams. We should be flattered.
by dimecoverage on Nov 30, 2009 11:53 AM CST up reply actions
I even saw a kid at the TCU/New Mexico game doing it
I get that they’ve convinced themselves that we are the reason they won’t be playing for a national title, but must they take advantage of every opportunity to prove they can’t act right on the big stage? If they want to wear big boy pants, they need to A) start showing up to the games, and B) lose the little brother complex.
I'm trying to remember the last time TCU beat Texas
If they want national respect, maybe they ought to beat UT from time to time?
by burntorangehorn on Nov 30, 2009 12:44 PM CST up reply actions
Definitely t.u.
Saw ‘em off is slightly funny, as a steer with its horns cut off is still dangerous. The horns down is just unoriginal thinking. The whole “t.u.” thing bugs the hell out of me though. Why? Because you’re at an institute of higher learning. Don’t act like an idiot who never learned proper use of the English language. You’re not clever, you’re not funny, you’re just plain ignorant. No wonder people think of your school’s population as a gaggle of illiterate, backcountry hicks.
Every time I feel down and depressed, I think of seven simple words by a true wise man, Matt Leinart: "I still think we're the better team" and I usually end up hurting myself by laughing so hard.
Horns down
makes my blood boil. When a team is playing us and does it, I can live with it because it’s in the spirit of the game so to speak. But when a team isn’t even playing the Horns and fans give the Horns down, it’s just plain stupid. Instead of promoting your own team and showing pride with your own team’s signs, colors, traditions, etc, you resort to the Horns down. Dumb.
And then when players (OU primarily) give the Horns down when they are playing some other opponent – that’s just plain stupid and shows immaturity. Show some respect and dignity.
Did anyone else notice Earl Thomas
after a particularly good play flashing the horns down to the crowd for an instant then flipping them up with a big grin?
"Hell, No. I'm not going to candy this thing up. These are work clothes." -Darrell Royal
If I am allowed to have a crush, it has to be Earl Thomas. Great player, all-around neat guy, musician, great sense of humor. A guy can’t get any better than that.
by dimecoverage on Nov 30, 2009 4:20 PM CST up reply actions
They're all annoying
But I wouldn’t say that one gets me more worked up than any other. I just think it’s typical of programs like A&M to do things like that. They don’t win with any degree of regularity, they have no real football tradition, they will always been in Big Brother’s shadow. Dissing more successful, more prestigious programs is what they do to feel better about their place.
What kills me is that they’ll criticize the same things in other fan bases. For instance, there was this ridiculous thread on Texags after the game about how rude and classless our fans were. It took the OP a few posts on the thread before he ever got around to mentioning anything specific, and all he said was that he didn’t care for how some of our fans sing “make ’em eat ****” at the end of the fight song and that we only want to tear down our opponents instead of cheering for our own team. Oh, the irony. Their entire fight song is about us, their fans (even their athletic director) refuse to call us by name, they flash the inverted hook ’em every chance they get, and they whine about US dissing THEM.
Then they complained about some fans doing the Texas Fight yell during an injury timeout; that’s right, the same fan base that invented and continues to celebrate the “Cart McCry” moniker is complaining about someone yelling during an injury timeout.
Those sorts of things are what really piss me off about A&M fans. They can dish it out, but God forbid they should have to take it.
Love horns down, except....
When it’s condoned by the Big XII (in highlight videos) and when refs ignore the fact that it’s taunting. When it’s from stupid fans, I have no issues with it. It means we’re the standard.
I agree on players doing it
The fans can do it if it makes them feel better. Whatever. Refs shouldn’t allow players to do it.
Saw 'em off
Thought this would get more votes. Seems like animal cruelty to me — I guess I get defensive about ol’ Bevo. I do hate all the Horns down, but agree it’s a form of flattery. Everyone sees the world through burnt orange lenses ….
That's why I voted for saw 'em off
Because it’s kind of a graphic glorification of animal cruelty. I think the other two are all in good, petty, hate-filled fun that is characteristic of a rivalry.
by burntorangehorn on Nov 30, 2009 12:46 PM CST up reply actions
Horns down...
I saw plenty of the upside down chrome Longhorn logos on Schooners at TX/OU one year. Made me want to grab a stack of post-its to tag them with a “Thank you for you contribution, Sincerely, Delossh Dodddsh.”
Horns down to me is the equivalent of replying “whatever” after getting owned.
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Horns Down
So, I’ve always been very entertained by this hand gesture. First off, I think it’s ironic that this could even be an insult, since the last thing a bull does before “hooking” something or someone is “put its horns down”. I’ve been out on my grandparents’ farm and seen this for myself. It’s actually pretty terrifying seeing something that huge put its head down in an attempt to use its cranial appendages as weapons, and this was only your typical all-purpose brown farm cow with 8’’ horns. Bevo, on the other hand, is a prize steer with a 7-foot hornspan. Good luck with that.
Upon this realization, I decided to bring it upon myself to reclaim this form of our beloved hand gesture. An example of its effectiveness transpired at last year’s RRS. As I was marching into the Cotton Bowl (I was a proud 4-year member of LHB), I experienced a plethora of spitting, taunting, overall-wearing, beer-throwing (we have to wear plastic hat covers to protect our snow-white hats), dirty, greasy, land thieves. My friend and I marched through the fair with our “horns down” yelling “Hook ’Em!”, only to receive the most satisfying array of confused looks I’ve ever seen. It was the same feeling you get when your little brother fails to intentionally annoy you. One Sooner even audibly expressed his frustration in four-letter words as he spilled his beer all over himself.
It might just be my own weird personal sense of humor, but I’m taking it back. So get your horns up (or down) and get ready for a great post season!!!
by ElMariachiLoco on Nov 30, 2009 12:52 PM CST reply actions
t.u.
Best response when someone says that is a confused look. To reply in words to something that moronic would be pointless.
exactly
"I don't care if I have to run100 times or pass it 100 times...Whatever it takes to win is all that matters to me" -VY
by 2100 San Jac on Nov 30, 2009 1:19 PM CST up reply actions
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