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by dimecoverage on Nov 30, 2009 5:41 PM CST
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Stoops to Notre Dame? Let the guessing begin...
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Stoops is definitely leaving it open
He is such a prick. I’m glad the reporter didn’t take his “non-responsive” answer. Stoops is such an egomaniac that the possibility of more tv time at ND has to look appealing to him.
Darius White said he wants to go to a school where he can trust the coaches. I interpreted that as a solid lean to Texas since everyone knows that Stoops can not be trusted. His evasive answer is just one of many examples.
Stoops on a plane?
The ND scout site has a forum post about their plane flying from ND to Norman. If anyone has a subscription, please fill us in and let us know if this is credible.
That title sounds like snakes on a plane. Coincidence?
How can it be coincidence
When it’s the same thing? ;)
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by beast in bama on Nov 30, 2009 7:09 PM CST up reply actions
Stoops is no Samuel L. Jackson, that's for sure.
Stoops: “I’ve had it with these mother effing losses in these mother effing bowl games!!!”
by ElMariachiLoco on Nov 30, 2009 8:40 PM CST up reply actions
I doubt it.
Swarbrick took the plane off the public register after the loss to Pitt, so there’s no way to see where they are. I kept seeing rumors that they were going to Norman yesterday, but I also saw rumors that Stoops was at Notre Dame yesterday, so I doubt anyone posting this stuff knows what’s going on, or pick out the one guy who knows what’s going on from all the hysteria.
That was pretty funny.
That conversation between Stoops and the reporter made me crack up. Although he’s leaving it open, I find it hard to see him going to Notre Dame. Notre Dame’s program has gone so downhill that coaches don’t see it as a dream job anymore. Stoops also has a pretty secure position at OU. Although, the way Stoops insisted on leaving it open, I can’t say for sure that he won’t go.
Scott
Disagree about the quality of the program
As long as ND is capable of competing for National Championships, then it will be one of the premier coaching jobs in the country, one good enough to leave OU for. I have no idea if it is likely or a long shot that OU loses Stoops, but I do know that if he were to change programs, this would be the time to do it. ND is going to be full of top-level recruits for the next two years, while OU is facing a rare time of uncertainty about if it is even possible to return to the top of the Big XII South in the next year or two.
Even though I agree with the critics who claim that ND gets too much preferential treatment, and boy do they, I don’t really have any problem with the school, and would enjoy seeing them turn it around, but not if it was with Stoops at the helm. Having said that, I would love to see Stoops leave OU because I think a coaching changes are more likely to hurt a program than help it, so I’m kind of torn as to if I want him to leave or not.
If you're so sure of what it ain't, how about telling us what it am!
ND is toast unless they relax academic standards for football players and other athletes.
Pointless to take that job with those standards in place.
"Stats are for losers. I like winning games." - Will Muschamp
"Somebody will always break your records. It is how you live that counts." - Earl Campbell
by Mulliganville on Nov 30, 2009 10:24 PM CST up reply actions
Disagree
ND is not have higher standards than Stanford and they are doing ok. Academc standards are a nice excuse for a university that can’t accept the fact the sun has set on their glory days. One simple fact will keep most if not all coaches (outside Carroll or Mack) from having success in south bend… Recruiting. Convince the 4 and 5 stars to go to a small town in Indiana when they don’t remember the glory days is tough.
Besides, I’m tired of hearing about ND academic standards anyways. They are not ranked number one or anything.
Who do you think you people are Northwestern?
Your tongue can't repel flavor of that magnitude!!
by UT2001 on Nov 30, 2009 10:43 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
pretty telling link here...
http://www.und.com/genrel/102008aab.html
"Stats are for losers. I like winning games." - Will Muschamp
"Somebody will always break your records. It is how you live that counts." - Earl Campbell
by Mulliganville on Dec 1, 2009 2:07 PM CST up reply actions
I think the "academic standards" argument has been overstated
Have you actually seen what they are? They aren’t significantly stricter than other programs that have relatively high standards, like Texas for instance. Definitely on the stricter side, but not to the extent that there is any reason to think they can’t fill their roster with 4-5 star recruits.
If you're so sure of what it ain't, how about telling us what it am!
Academic Standards
I do not think they would be too much of a hurdle for the right coach, however, I do not think Bob Stoops is that guy. Bob likes to take all comers acedmically challenged, legally challanged (screwdriver), and eligibility challenged (Big red imports). I do not think Notre Dame gose for that kind of thing.
Cowherd has a theory here...warm weather schools get the best athletes.
I thought about it and it appears to make some sense. The dominant schools today are USC, Texas, Bama, Florida, LSU, and Oklahoma. Others make appearances, but these 6 schools seem to dominate the landscape. Ohio State is the only cold weather school that has become a member of this fraternity.
Below is a list of BCS winners since 1998. Winning team is on the left along with their ranking. Ditto for the losing team on the right. While Texas has only one championship game performance, they are the top winning program over the last 10 years. I believe the coaches, the university, the tradition, and the location of Austin all play a role here. Where else would you want to attend if you were looking for the entire buffet?
1998 January 4, 1999 1 Tennessee 23 2 Florida St. 16 Fiesta Bowl
1999 January 4, 2000 1 Florida St. 46 2 Virginia Tech 29 Sugar Bowl
2000 January 3, 2001 1 Oklahoma 13 3 Florida St. 2 Orange Bowl
2001 January 3, 2002 1 Miami 37 4 Nebraska 14 Rose Bowl
2002 January 3, 2003 2 Ohio State 31 1 Miami 24 Fiesta Bowl
2003 January 4, 2004 2 LSU 21 3 Oklahoma 14 Sugar Bowl
2004 January 4, 2005 1 USC 55 2 Oklahoma 19 Orange Bowl
2005 January 4, 2006 2 Texas 41 1 USC 38 Rose Bowl
2006 January 8, 2007 2 Florida 41 1 Ohio State 14 BCS National Championship
2007 January 7, 2008 2 LSU 38 1 Ohio State 24 BCS National Championship
2008 January 8, 2009 1 Florida 24 2 Oklahoma 14 BCS National Championship
Thoughts?
"Stats are for losers. I like winning games." - Will Muschamp
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by Mulliganville on Dec 1, 2009 2:02 PM CST up reply actions
I don’t know if it is warm weather. The three best states for producing outstanding football talent are Texas, Florida and California (not necessarily in that exact order). Studies have shown that recruits prefer schools close to their home, probably due to family. That isn’t the case for every athlete, but it holds true for a lot. It would make sense that the teams in the South and West would benefit from this.
As others have stated, because of this preference causality lies more
with a national population shift than the weather in November/December Big 10 schools face. Which is nippy.
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Florida, Texas, and California now put out the best players by a huge margin...
Teams that can recruit well from those fertile zones have the best chance. Being in the Southeast in general also helps since all the Southern states produce their fair share of elite athletes (LSU has had a virtual lock on their top talent for the past decade and Bama is doing the same since Saban came on board.) It used to be that the rust belt created a lot of quality football players that fueled the Penn State, OSU, Michigan, Notre Dame and Syracuse dynasties of old. The just don’t put out enough talent now to keep all the schools in the area nationally competitive when compared to the wealth of talent coming out of the big 3 states.
Penn State, OSU, Michigan, and Notre Dame have remained relevant recently by increasingly poaching players from the South. I think this makes it even harder for them since the coaches are left relying on the players that do commit regardless of position and can’t stockpile deep, position-experienced players. If a northern school can get a Gary Patterson-type coach, who can mold raw speed and athleticism into whatever positional needs the team has they could become a regional powerhouse by just collecting Southern athletes and turning them into football players.
The problem with Cowherd’s statement is that I don’t see a lot of rust belt or northern players filling the rosters of USC, Texas, Florida, Bama, LSU, or Oklahoma. These team are made up mostly on talent drawn from in-state or from bordering states. The Big 10 isn’t in decline due to a talent drain into other conferences. Its in decline because the area no longer produces enough elite talent to regularly compete against Southern/California teams.
He has denied this multiple times
and is in California yesterday and today meeting with recruits. This isn’t going to happen so don’t get your hopes up.
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Why would Stoops leaving get our hopes up?
We owe him a few more beat downs.
by the other Andrew on Dec 1, 2009 9:25 AM CST up reply actions
This!
I don’t want Stoops to leave yet either. But the non-denials along with the smoke flushing out from other sources makes me think that at least both sides are talking. I have no idea if he will leave or not, but Stoops is certainly entertaining the offer.
Not today. He is in Ohio. His grandmother died and the funeral is today. Our thoughts do go out to his family.
We love these threads because Bob continues to entertain us all with his non-denials and Stoopspeak. Your coach should think about running for office. He spends a lot of time evading questions and saying absolutely nothing. Perfect fit for politics.
It is starting to concern me that I know this much about Bob Stoops. Maybe a time to cut back reading for the Daily Roundup…
After Jan 7th...
You can take in a spa or go on a cruise, but for heavens sake girl keep your game on until then. :)
Incorrect. He is having inhomes with
Brennan Clay, Tony Jefferson and likely Kenny Stills. Will he be at the funeral if it’s today? Im sure, he does have access to a plane.
Also, if you think Mack doesn’t do the exact same “political type” coach speak then your being ridiculous.
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Sure would sting if he left, wouldn’t it?
Especially after defending his laughable denials so feverishly. Coach speak is one thing. But for him to not outright deny the claims is something totally different. Especially in major sports.
Beyond sting.
He would be dead to me and I would wish nothing but pain upon the Notre Dame program. I would be pissed off for months. But I’m not worried about it anymore (which is why it would be even worse).
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And Jermaine Gresham may suit up any day now...
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by learned hand on Dec 1, 2009 9:41 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
That must be it. I’m not following protocol, am I? This definitely did not have 75 words.
by dimecoverage on Dec 1, 2009 11:02 AM CST up reply actions
Bowden to ND imo
He’ll get those academic standards in line.
by BoddickerIsClutch on Dec 1, 2009 10:33 AM CST reply actions
No way.
Rumor is we’re close to a deal with JoePa. Sticking point seems to be that he is demanding a wing all to himself.
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