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Postgame React: Texas Overwhelms UCF 35-3

The outcome was: solid.  If it wasn't before, that an undefeated Texas will play for the national title is officially a certainty after Iowa's loss to Northwestern today. For Texas, then, the only "outcome" that matters is the scoreboard -- narrow wins, big wins, uneven wins, it's all the same in terms of getting to Pasadena. As such, the Horns' 35-3 win over UCF was plenty solid, enough to maintain the second or third spot in the BCS while waiting for SEC elimination to play out. Win, and they're in.

Beyond the victory, if you're eager to see Colt McCoy win the Heisman Trophy then today's outcome was satisfactory on another level as well. If Malcolm Williams had scored Texas' second touchdown instead of Cody Johnson, McCoy not only would have finished with 3 passing TDs instead of 2, but the reception would have been enough to put his total for the day above the 500-yard mark. As it was, the 470 yards set a school record for a regular season game (single-game record set by Major in the 2001 Holiday Bowl, at 473 yards passing), a gaudy number that -- in a wide open year for the award -- will give a big boost to a name familiar to voters. Neither he nor the offense were perfect on the day, but if over his final four games he puts up numbers anywhere near today's, he'll return to New York once again and have as good a shot as anyone to take the trophy.

Star-divide

The Offensive MVP was: The Roommates. We've already started to discuss McCoy's big day (33-46 passing for 470 yards, 2 TDs, and 1 INT), but there's no way to separate his production from Jordan Shipley, who finished with 10 receptions and a ridiculous 273 yards receiving, including an 88-yard touchdown in the final quarter. Shipley's big day not only shatters the university's single-game record for receiving yards, but improves his season totals to 74 catches and 1,050 yards. If he maintains his current pace Shipley will finish the 14-game season with 115 receptions and 1,516 yards, both of which would leave in the dust Texas' current single-season bests. Three notes on the duo's huge afternoon:

  1. Central Florida's secondary is awful. I say that not to discredit the stellar performance, but to wonder about the Longhorns' empty offensive first quarter, which was an example of opening the game content to "do what we do" rather than scheme to an opponent. To Texas' credit, after the second drive the usual offensive approach was discarded, Greg Davis started taking shots downfield, and the passing party was underway. What's more, I'm not sure about any larger point here, since a week ago I was greatly miffed by Davis' decision to open five-wide particularly to attack a perceived OSU weakness. I think, if anything, the lessons here might center on (1) our offense's standard operating procedure, which teams have been defending successfully since the start of the year, and (2) the encouraging results the offense has seen employing various adjustments to that core approach.

  2. Shipley's production today was a lot like that from the Colorado game, only this time around there's not much about the big day about which to be concerned. Recall that against CU, not only was McCoy-to-Shipley more or less the entire offensive production, but it more or less seemed the entire offensive focus. Not so today, when Texas -- though again paying only lip service to the running game -- featured a much more robust aerial attack that included roll outs, heavy play action, and multiple shots down the field (to multiple receivers). The Malcolm Williams breakout continues, Kirkendoll and Chiles are settling in to minor but helpful roles, and even when Marquise Goodwin isn't making receptions he's affecting the game with his speed, versatility, and superior blocking.

  3. While first and foremost developing diversity in the passing game was essential to countering that which defenses have been doing to frustrate what we wanted to do, there are rich secondary benefits to be had from evolving. Chief among them is the return of Texas' efficiency converting third downs, a healthy 55% over the last three games (22-of-40), up from 42.5% (34-of-80) through the season's first six games. The outstanding McCoy-to-Shipley connection is valuable to the offense in any case, but substantially more so when defenses have to commit resources elsewhere.

Quick hits on other highlights from offense:

* I really like how Colt McCoy is taking an active role in launching a Malcolm Williams breakout party. McCoy's near-touchdown strike to Williams was a great look on its own, but it was the way McCoy went right back to him on the next play that impressed me most. If this is something we wish had begun early in the season, the effort underway now appears genuine and ambitious.

* Other good signs in the passing game include steady niche production from Chiles and Kirkendoll. No longer miscast as a receiver with the ability to separate, Chiles is contributing nicely in the ways he's able, developing into a solid possession guy helpful to keeping defenses honest. As for Kirkendoll, he seems to have gotten his head in the right mental place after a mostly miserable start to the season. He's neither quite fast enough nor strong enough to do much with the underneath crossing stuff we run for him, but as a receiver to send out on a seam route he's plenty capable of finding space and making catches 15 yards downfield.

* Gotta love the effort Texas is getting from Big Cody, whose 10 carry, 44-yard stat line seems like it undersells his overall contributions. It's comical to send him out there for our zone stretch plays, but in all fairness, Barry Sanders would struggle to make yards on those plays, too. I still like Johnson in a situational role, even if that role is a relatively involved one; Johnson isn't a great fit as a primary guy in the zone read or pseudo-counter.

* Illustration by contrast: great a weapon as is Cody for various goal-to-go situations, Texas doesn't score that final touchdown if it's Johnson instead of Whittaker. Speaking of which, Fozzy was limited to just 4 carries on the game, 5 if you include -- as does the box score -- his ridiculous attempt to execute a flea flicker (the fumble of which wound up counting against him for -13 yards rushing). As middling as is our rushing scheme, I'd still like to see him touch the ball 10 times a game; as we've seen two of the last three weeks, he possesses the speed and slipperiness that allow him to get to the end zone where others will not.

* And finally, we're running a lot of play-action all the sudden, a welcome development. With that said, when Texas finds itself facing an elite defense, the play action won't sparkle like it does against terrible teams, unless the play fake is actually credible. We're still running the ball so haphazardly, and generally poorly, that elite defenses can and will be able to ignore the run game as insignificant -- enough so, at least, to scheme to ignore all play fakes and assume that whatever runs we do call won't pop us much, if at all. As noted above, part of the solution to a good defense sitting back on our passing game is to develop and diversify the passing attack itself, but I remain in the skeptics camp that there won't at some point be a price to pay if the offensive approach doesn't better and more systematically incorporate runs.

The offensive Offensive LVP was: The O-Line.  I've spent the better part of too many Saturdays this fall hammering out new variations on the same points, and I am at this point disinterested in continuing to do more of the same. This week, we keep it simple: the offensive line struggled in myriad ways, some of which is inadequacy of players, and some of which is inadequacy of coaches. In any case, well-established as are the various strengths and weaknesses of all involved, detailed analyses of substantial changes that might be made are at this point wishcasting. We are what we are as a running team, and I've limited my hopes in that regard to modest improvement in the way our mediocre rushing game is incorporated into a larger strategy, if only to assist the passing game. Beyond that, the story to watch is how far along Texas gets developing a truly dynamic passing attack, such that even an elite defense that can ignore our run will be challenged to deal not just with Shipley, but with Malcolm Williams and Marquise Goodwin. And so forth.

The Defensive MVP was: Lamarr Houston and Sergio Kindle. Nine tackles for Kindle, 7 for Houston, 3 tackles for loss apiece. Another opponent's game plan brutally disrupted by Texas' ferocious defensive line. There's a lot to love about Sergio Kindle, and if you're just watching him as a pass rusher, you'll miss it. To be sure, he's a good pass rusher right now, with an already great speed rush and, in my view, a lot of yet to be realized potential as he adds more upper body strength and some variety to his moves. It's easy to forget that he's still in some important ways relatively green. In any case, there's so much more to what he's giving us than pass rushing, and he's as likely to be the one blowing up a screen in the flat as a linebacker or defensive back. He plays with intensity you can't teach, which on the first series occasionally leads him to overpursue, once he settles into a groove and the game gets going, he's everything you could ask for in a college end.

As for Houston, I've made no secret about how much I love his abilities, over-zealously proclaiming prior to last season that I thought he could be the best player on the entire defense. In year two as an interior linemen, he might well be if not for the outrageous depth of elite excellence on this defensive roster. No one would be wrong to single out Earl Thomas or Sergio Kindle for top honors, but neither do I hesitate to place Houston right there alongside them. The play we're getting from Kheeston Randall and Ben Alexander has been tremendously valuable, but as much of it has to do with the jobs they're doing, a non-trivial amount of it has to do with Houston's dominant season. It's a damn shame he'll likely have to settle for Second Team All-Big 12.

Overall, there's not much to be said about today's defensive performance, given its dominance represents for this group par for the course. George O'Leary's squad did a nice job in the first half countering our pressure, but as has also become par for the course, Will Muschamp made decisive counter-adjustments in-game, shifting to more zone play and steady diets of both run and zone blitzes. After which the Golden Knights did absolutely nothing.

The offensive Defensive LVP was: N/A.  I may never answer this again.

On the Milk Carton: Dan Buckner. Briefly now, because I've already said far more about the game than I intended, I want to raise one final point about the haphazard commitment to running the football. One consequence of remaining disinterested in meaningfully committing to rushing the ball is that in so doing the Greg Smith > Dan Buckner proposition loses most, if not all, of its value. That is, if we're not even going to pretend to be interested in rushing, we'd might as well go with Buckner. Alternatively, if we intend at least to enjoy some benefits from conveying to defenses that we're interested in rushing, it's still not clear that there's any reason not to go with Buckner; sure, the run blocking might be a downgrade, but where we're only haphazardly running as a means to an end, and thus only minimally succeeding in any case, what's the real loss?

To the extent that the plan is either to ignore or only minimally engage the run, roughly the same could be done in the run game with Buckner as with Smith, while the benefits to the passing game are obvious. Of course, I'll say once more that the alternative to those two options is the one I'd prefer: meaningful commitment to running the ball not out of naive belief that it can be a centerpiece, or even a strength, but as an essential ingredient to the passing game being all it can be. We can all agree that Texas will or will not win the national title based on -- at least offensively -- what Colt McCoy does on the field for us. It is at this point well-established that the line between his being the focal point of the offense, and his being the only thing in the offense, is the line between the player who will at times struggle, and one who can win us a national title.

I hope we get it right.

Baylor Fear Factor: 0 out of 10. (5) is the baseline. -5 for no Robert Griffin.

Heading into next week I feel: Steady.  The team is in the ideal position we hoped it would be, the defense is a dream, and the offense has over the past three weeks begun to round into form -- if not yet to the point where I'll predict great success against Alabama or Florida, at least to the point where it's almost unimaginable the team could fail to reach Pasadena. 

For now, that feels good. It feels great, really. 95% of what a college football fan should care about relates to getting to the title game. The other parts related to maximizing your chance to win it are important for exactly the two teams who actually get there. Insofar as we're on track to give ourselves a chance, this season is at this point a success. We can at this point watch the next four games and, firstly, root for the wins to send us to the Rose Bowl, and second, from those performances spend an entire month talking about how well-suited we are to win it.

So long as we're having that debate in December, I'll be happy. And hopefully, I'll be, well, hopeful. So far, so good.

Hook 'em

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Great Day for Colt, Could have been magnificent

Considering the general Godawfulness of the UCF secondary. I think at times Colt was shock how open his receivers were which led to underthrows and that one bad interception. If he had seen tape of UCF, I don’t know why he would be. One of UCF’s DB’s is their former QB, for God’s sake. But overall, good win. Keep winning and we’re in, as I’ve said from Day one. Style points be damn. At this point, it’s just padding Colt’s Heisman credentials.

In-VINCE-able.

by iamjackburton on Nov 7, 2009 8:29 PM CST reply actions  

Running game, schmunning game.
We’re still running the ball so haphazardly, and generally poorly, that elite defenses can and will be able to ignore the run game as insignificant — enough so, at least, to scheme to ignore all play fakes and assume that whatever runs we do call won’t pop us much, if at all.

Two problems with this tidbit: 1) Against the run, at least, UCF is an “elite” defense. Sure, their secondary sucks eggs, but they loaded the box for bear, and show week in and week out that if you want to run on them, you’d better be ready for a grind; 2) Texas’ best running game of the year, by far, was against OU. Say what you will about Oklahoma (I’ll certainly not stop you), but their defense stacks up extremely well against anybody in the SEC, with the possible exception of Alabama.

"Confunde et vince!"

by Hairy Scotsman on Nov 7, 2009 8:40 PM CST reply actions  

Meaning, what?

That you’re confident (A) that we will be meaningfully committed to the run when we face an elite defense (meaning elite in pass and rush defense) and (B) that we can run well when we so choose?

My hesitations on both counts are not the result of observing Texas against UCF. We’ve now got 9 games in which to observe the approach, play calling, and execution running the football; my reservations are related to what everything in concert tells me.

You may not share my concerns, in which case I hope you’re right and I’m worried for nothing.

You ain't hurt.

by Peter Bean on Nov 7, 2009 8:56 PM CST up reply actions  

I guess it is too late now...

but I share your concern about the lack of a running game. All season, even against vastly inferior opponents, we seem unable to establish a running game. Why are most runs slow-developing end-runs? Why can’t we blow anyone off the line and run up the middle? All an elite team like Alabama or Florida will have to do is (1) pressure McCoy every play, (2) double-team Shipley, and (3) shut down GD’s favorite play, the bubble screen! Our only hope would be for our defense to score more than the other team’s offense.

"Only angry people win football games." --DKR

by OBdoc on Nov 8, 2009 4:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Major disappointment

Major Applewhite is the RB coach, isn’t he? I’m disappointed he has not done better with this offense.

Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.

by Caradoc on Nov 8, 2009 4:50 PM CST up reply actions  

How much is on the RB coach...

and how much is the O-line, and how much is it the play-calling (GD)? I suspect it is mainly is the latter. One thing I think it would help is for GD to pick a RB and stay with him instead of having “rushing by committee” or a “RB of the game” Yes, i know part of it is due to injuries, but give a guy enough carries to give him confidence and see if he can get the job done.

"Only angry people win football games." --DKR

by OBdoc on Nov 8, 2009 5:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Great stuff as usual PB

Agree with iajb, problem is Colt can’t throw the deep ball. Ship had break his stride 0.2 Nano sec and a 0.5 micron to his left shoulder for the 88 yarder.

Greg Davis wears Sex Panther... and nothing else.

by Ese-De-SA on Nov 7, 2009 8:41 PM CST reply actions  

No Nitpicking Necessary

I will give Texas a pass this week on the areas of improvement. If ever there was a week to let down, today was it. I choose to overlook the minor issues, and congratulate the coaches and team for a nice effort! Great focus.

by realmccoy on Nov 7, 2009 8:44 PM CST reply actions  

Quick Question

Do you think it is too much to ask that we take a few Cody TD runs and try to pad Colt’s stats for the Heisman with short TD passes?

by realmccoy on Nov 7, 2009 8:46 PM CST reply actions  

I've never been a fan

Of giving TDs to a specialist, at least unless the team is showing that it’s having problems scoring with the people who were responsible for getting the team into scoring position in the first place. I remember really hating it when Chris Leak would drive UF the length of the field, only to be pulled for Tebow to do his stupid moose act.

I guess what I’m saying is that I really would like the guys like Colt, Shipley, Fozzy, Goodwin, MW, etc. get the TDs, unless they prove they’re impotent in the red zone.

by burntorangehorn on Nov 7, 2009 8:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Tend to agree

It’s kind of a sham to pad stats in any context, but with the Heisman, it also would be done in vain. The award is decided on hype, team ranking, name recognition, and all sorts of other political nonsense. Good numbers are important, but going out of your way to pad numbers won’t be the difference.

You ain't hurt.

by Peter Bean on Nov 7, 2009 8:58 PM CST up reply actions  

I think the stats can pad the hype

Really, I don’t know that Tebow would be half the media monster he is if it weren’t for the benefit of the statistics the system Meyer gives him.

by burntorangehorn on Nov 7, 2009 9:01 PM CST up reply actions  

agreed

would tebow be running the yards he has as a running back (NFL) in this same system, and if so, would the media/heisman hype follow?

by Infield Elephant on Nov 7, 2009 9:29 PM CST up reply actions  

I’m not sure we were ‘intending’ to score on either of CJ’s runs. I think he had a “WTF where did their D go?” look on his face after he broke the first tackle on each TD.

by UT_BKC on Nov 7, 2009 10:44 PM CST up reply actions  

two things

a) I would never want to presume that TD’s are so easy to come by that you should stray from what’s working just to help pad someone’s stats.

b) Can we really call Cody a specialist right now if he’s the starting RB, or at least part of a two back rotation? It’s not like it’s Chris Robertson (that was his name, right?) coming off the bench to jump over the pile for a TD but never getting any other carries.

by junglerules on Nov 8, 2009 7:44 AM CST up reply actions  

I would consider him a specialist when he’s brought in to be the sledgehammer in short-yardage situations. A short-yardage back is a specialist. He does other things, but those other things are not why he’s in there inside the red zone.

by burntorangehorn on Nov 8, 2009 5:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Great Point on Kindle PB

I think he gets shortshrifted due to the comparison to RAK on pass rush alone. I actually feel he has done an overall better job than RAK. I have never seen someone with so much speed off the edge play the run so well. Real treat to watch.

by realmccoy on Nov 7, 2009 9:04 PM CST reply actions  

Kirk getting better all-around

I noticed that in addition to a couple nice receptions, Kirk had a nice block – showing he has been paying attention to detail.

I was disappointed in him on that interception, while not a perfect pass, he was not aggressive enough in fighting for the ball.

by realmccoy on Nov 7, 2009 9:07 PM CST reply actions  

I Agree

I put that pic on Kirk….Malcolm Williams or Dan Buckner catch that ball.

by orangetower on Nov 9, 2009 12:05 PM CST up reply actions  

The BCS ramifications of this weekend aren't huge, but not insignificant either

Iowa loses, so Texas and Alabama kind of have to move up in the computer rankings. The problem is that Alabama faced LSU, so they’re going to improve more with the computers, regardless of what the humans say.

I think ‘Bama might stay relatively even with UT in the human polls, but overtake UT in the BCS based on improved standing in the computers. Again, it shouldn’t matter, since UF and ’Bama cannot both go into bowl season undefeated.

Cincinnati will climb to fourth, and extend the gap between themselves and both Boise State and TCU.

by burntorangehorn on Nov 7, 2009 9:31 PM CST reply actions  

Not sure why they ended up jumping

Cincy had a much, much tougher opponent than TCU did yesterday. Must be good ol’ human perception of a blowout over a joke opponent being worth more than a tough win over a quality one.

by burntorangehorn on Nov 8, 2009 5:38 PM CST up reply actions  

One correction

I’m sure it’s a typo, but Colt was 33/42 passing, not 33/46.

by TexasTexasYeehaw on Nov 7, 2009 9:33 PM CST reply actions  

any word on jahvid best?

"Stats are for losers. I like winning games." - Will Muschamp
"Somebody will always break your records. It is how you live that counts." - Earl Campbell

by Mulliganville on Nov 7, 2009 9:37 PM CST reply actions  

nothing more than a concussion i've heard.

could have been much worse by the looks of it though

by greenman on Nov 7, 2009 10:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Recruiting

This might not be the place, but I didn’t want to make a fanpost. Anyway the morning on ESPN Austin pre-game, Ketch teased something about a big time recruiting rumor he couldn’t yet comment on, and now there’s a tease on the OB front page with a picture of Scotty Young. Anyone have any clue about this one??? GoBR, I’m sure you’ll have something soon, but just thought I’d ask. Thanks.

'Til Gabriel blows his horn...

by mattyj on Nov 7, 2009 9:49 PM CST reply actions  

he visited the texas baseball team today...could sidn with ut this week

"Stats are for losers. I like winning games." - Will Muschamp
"Somebody will always break your records. It is how you live that counts." - Earl Campbell

by Mulliganville on Nov 7, 2009 9:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Scotty Young has commited (verbal) to Tech

I was just told that someone on Ketchum’s show said something about him maybe switching commitment. RUMORS, of course….

by Infield Elephant on Nov 7, 2009 9:55 PM CST up reply actions  

I knew he was committed to Tech and that’s what threw me. Why would he decommit from a school with a great system for him and commit to us when we already have 2 QBs in the class? But if its for baseball, that makes a little more sense. Guess we’ll wait and see. If this goes threw I’d pay to be there when Leach finds out.

'Til Gabriel blows his horn...

by mattyj on Nov 7, 2009 10:10 PM CST up reply actions  

*through

'Til Gabriel blows his horn...

by mattyj on Nov 7, 2009 10:10 PM CST up reply actions  

I saw something on Twitter from Chris Level of RedRaiderSports

Also alluded to Scotty Young, and saying it wasn’t good news for Tech….

by junglerules on Nov 8, 2009 7:46 AM CST up reply actions  

Michael Huff

Was doing a great job of “recruiting” for us when he was being interviewed during the show. He was praising everything, especially Coach Akina, and I couldn’t help but think about what a foolish move A. Dixon made when he decommited from us. What in the world was he thinking!! The other day on ESPN they were talking about Texas’ having more of a “selection” process than a “recruiting” process. I liked that.

by Wrangler86 on Nov 8, 2009 12:41 AM CST up reply actions  

Smoke, little fire.

Came down for a visit, thought about it, but will probably stay with Tech. Why play baseball when you can put up video-game numbers playing football?

by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Nov 10, 2009 12:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Why on earth would anyone commit to tech? Have they been to Lubbock?

"Stats are for losers. I like winning games." - Will Muschamp
"Somebody will always break your records. It is how you live that counts." - Earl Campbell

by Mulliganville on Nov 7, 2009 9:58 PM CST reply actions  

Leach

Young has been talking to Tech for QB. Why? Because in a system like Leach’s, he can pack some serious passing stats and make a big name for himself.

by Infield Elephant on Nov 7, 2009 10:04 PM CST up reply actions  

I was being facetious...but there was a little truth to it I suppose.

"Stats are for losers. I like winning games." - Will Muschamp
"Somebody will always break your records. It is how you live that counts." - Earl Campbell

by Mulliganville on Nov 7, 2009 10:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Best friend went there for undergrad and grad...visited him once. Just once.

"Stats are for losers. I like winning games." - Will Muschamp
"Somebody will always break your records. It is how you live that counts." - Earl Campbell

by Mulliganville on Nov 7, 2009 10:31 PM CST reply actions  

Antwan Cobb

Cobb was especially stellar today in his unsung roles. He’s been a real headhunter on special teams all year, but today might have been his best showing. He had some tremendous hits out there today. And he did an outstanding job blocking for Cody as a fullback. Perhaps his UT career hasn’t turned out the way he might have imagined as an incoming freshman (wasn’t he a really big-time recruit?), but he’s been a good soldier and is making some valuable contributions to this year’s team. Good for him.

Another from the credit where it’s due department: UCF’s punter was the best I’ve seen in college football this year. It was good for us that he got the workload he did, but he seemed to make every appearance count. Even when Jordan could return one, he couldn’t get far on the return due to the great hang time on the kick. Again, it’s great when the other team’s MVP is their punter. He kept us pinned back deep in our own territory all day.

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by beast in bama on Nov 7, 2009 10:38 PM CST reply actions  

Don't think Cobb was a big-time recruit

He was one of those rare “late” guys Mack and staff get. Committed in December or January, signing two months later. Don’t recall who de-committed to create ‘ship space but I’m thinking he may have slipped into the mix after Emmanuel Moody chose USC. Cobb was RS in 2006 and was playing in spots in ’07 before he got hurt. Seems like he missed much of last season (knee, I believe).

I’ve regularly noticed him in the Jumbo set; Houston plows into the hole, while Cobb goes through and seeks out a DB or OLB. Hadn’t spotted him on special teams until maybe last week. He’s a good example of the near embarrassment of talent Mack has amassed. It’s trendy to praise Duane Akina for our ST success — and I will, he’s put a great unit out there — but we’re good on kick coverage for the same reason we’re good at intercepting passes. Because Earl and the Browns and Brewster and Wells (bolstered by Cobb and Malcolm and Goodwin) are hugely talented athletes.

by edsp on Nov 7, 2009 11:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Roommate for Heisman?

Do you think if Mack let Shipley return some kickoffs he would be the Heisman favorite right now?

His punt return stats are sick (2 TD), and his receiving numbers are great except for only 6 touchdowns.

by jimmer on Nov 7, 2009 10:53 PM CST reply actions  

Shipley doesn't have much of a chance to win

If he continues to put up great receiving numbers then he might have a chance to get invited to NY, but in the entire history of the trophy only 3 WR’s have ever won the award (4 if you count Charles Woodson who played sparingly at WR). With Texas not having any marquee games left before the award is given out, he’s doesn’t have the ability to create that moment like he had in last year’s Red River Rivalry Game.

by aaronlybrand on Nov 8, 2009 7:47 PM CST up reply actions  

On Baylor:

I would think them beating Missouri somehow today and actually putting up 40 points without Griffin would warrant at least 1 on the fear factor.

by tdwalsh on Nov 7, 2009 11:47 PM CST reply actions  

But that is offset by the Mizzou D backfield continuing to allow the gaudy numbers.

They won’t get that against the Texas D. So the ff numbers wash.

"We don't freestyle Texas Fight, big boy." - Coach Brown

by TXStampede on Nov 8, 2009 3:12 AM CST up reply actions  

Even still

They can’t even get a 1?

by aaronlybrand on Nov 8, 2009 7:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Heres a question to ponder

Where do you put Oregon? With USC at 12, Oregon losing to an unranked opponent should push them at least 5 spots back (behind USC). However because of head to head where will the Ducks end up?

by MJY6087 on Nov 8, 2009 12:07 AM CST reply actions  

Ask those who pushed Oregon ahead of BSU ;)

I think USC backs into the top ten again, probably #9, even though they should’ve dropped further last weekend.

by burntorangehorn on Nov 8, 2009 1:03 AM CST up reply actions  

USC is extremely overrated

as is the Pac10. Neither Oregon or USC should be in the top 10

by 7Swords of Salat on Nov 8, 2009 8:47 AM CST up reply actions  

USC also lost on the road to an unranked team.

Tough to say, honestly. They’re pretty much even. But Stanford’s better than Washington and I think Oregon has played better overall this season so I’d put Oregon ahead of the Trojans, but just barely.

And burntorangehorn, yes NOW Oregon deserves to be behind BSU.

by billyzane on Nov 8, 2009 10:35 AM CST up reply actions  

Quick points

Both #7’s on our teams suck. Plain and simple. Chiles is a one trick pony and I laugh when he gets thrown to or tried doing what he calls “running downfield.”
Meanwhile, Deon Beasley is the biggest walking pass interference call I have ever seen in CFB. I would bet to say he has at least 8 or so PI’s over the past 2 years, and he barely plays.

Case Keenum should win the heisman, specially after tonight. Other than Colt, he is prolly the only other QB I would trust in the clutch 100%.

The Baylor game will play out almost exactly like today. Book it!

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by greenspointexas on Nov 8, 2009 12:33 AM CST reply actions  

Beasley?

I must’ve been flipped away from the channel when he had his DPI problems on Saturday, because I actually thought he did a good job of playing physically. He made a nice hit or two as well.

by burntorangehorn on Nov 8, 2009 1:04 AM CST up reply actions  

As the final seconds ticked away...

during Northwestern’s defeat of Iowa today, I imagined myself a madman, standing over Iowa’s fallen carcass, repeatedly stabbing it in the heart with a wooden stake, screaming “die die die!!,” convinced by so many bad horror movies that the bad guy always pops up for one last scare.

by BrooklynHorn on Nov 8, 2009 3:25 AM CST reply actions  

11 personnel or Spread.

Opposing D coordinators have to grapple with this each and every week. And the glorious beauty of our offensive capability. You have got to give credit to Greg Smith for his continued improvements and unsung contributions. Here is a guy, like a lot of guys, who just straps it on and hearts it out each time he is put on the field. Same with Buck.

Sure, our running attack leaves something to be desired but with weapons like Colt and Shipley, it is easy to abandon.

At the very least the team has proven the ability to show looks off the run. I believe the complement of our now featured running backs will be sufficient enough to keep LB’s honest and provide underneath passing options against elite defenses. Especially those prone to over pursue.

Admittedly, I have been a bandwagoneer on the anti-GD train, however, he is doing a good job of exposing the defensive weaknesses of our opponents on a weekly basis.

I personally am off the train for the rest of the season.

"We don't freestyle Texas Fight, big boy." - Coach Brown

by TXStampede on Nov 8, 2009 3:37 AM CST reply actions  

My personal problems with GD, yours too apparently

Isn’t necessarily the game plan, it’s the timing and feel for the flow of the game. For example, I give you this sequence on our opening drive. Texas just received the ball on the punt. We ran Jet Sweep for a yard, and threw to Malcolm for a first down setting up this (emphasis mine):
T 1-10 C47 McCoy, Colt right side pass complete to Shipley, Jordan for 5 yards to
                   the UCF42 (HALLMAN, D.). Nice pass to MW play before and the momentum continues with our standard 5 yard route to Ship
      T 2-5 C42 McCoy, Colt rush over left end for 3 yards to the UCF39 (HOGUE, Cory). Nothing too crazy, just gaining positive yards
      T 3-2 C39 McCoy, Colt right flat pass complete to Williams, Malco for 10 yards to
                   the UCF29, 1ST DOWN UT (HALLMAN, D.). 3rd and 2, WR screen to the right side of the field, get the ball to a playmaker, use his size and speed
We have momentum, we’re driving, Colt’s spreading the ball around early, mixing in the run, things are good so far, then Janet Leigh happens.
      T 1-10 C29 McCoy, Colt left side pass complete to Goodwin, Marqui for loss of 1
                   yard to the UCF30 (HOGUE, Cory).WR Screen left, 2nd consecutive WR screen, loses a yard, and our momentum, and I lose 73 brain cells because I’m screaming at the TV "YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING ME MOTHER@#$%#$@, 2 WR Screens in a row?!?!?!?!?
      T 2-11 C30 Johnson, Cody rush over right tackle for 3 yards to the UCF27 (HOGUE,
                   Cory).oh hey, look the play that would have been nice to see on 1st down, being run to the outside with Fozzy our speed back, instead of Cody our bruiser back
      T 3-8 C27 McCoy, Colt post pass incomplete to Buckner, Dan (GRECO, Michael).Ok, this drive still has a chance, it’s 3rd and long, but not that long. Oh hey , trying to squeeze it into Danny Buckner on the seam route. The play that would have been nice on a second down after running Cody on 1st down, which didn’t happen because you ran a consecutive WR screen on 1st down.
      T 4-8 C27 Lawrence, Hunte field goal attempt from 44 MISSED – wide left, spot at
                   UCF28, clock 10:02.
Most of us sigh and you post this…

I just for the life of me understand GD and his series calling sometimes.
by TXStampede on Nov 7, 2009 11:21 AM CST

I’m not trying to call you out specifically, but I do believe there is a syndrome that comes with victory, where you forgive all grievances and “hug it out” until next week. That syndrome also has an evil twin brother called “Greg Davis sucks”. Admittedly, I find myself with a “hope for the best ,expect the worst” when we have a ball on offense. I think that’s why it’s comforting when the defense gets on the field, because it’s a pin the ears back, no holds bar approach that doesn’t always make me think who is going to make the big mistake.

"I live in the tower with Coach Brown." -Bevo

by run Bevo run on Nov 8, 2009 4:43 AM CST up reply actions  

I was thinking the same exact thing at the time.

Thanks for singling me out, but I was only speaking for, um, MOST OF US. I’m not the only one that has questioned game opening series decisions. I think we can all agree we want more. More points, more awards, more yards, more of Colt, more running game, more, more, more. When is enough…enough? We have been given a real gift the last 7 years: two of CFB’s most prolific QB’s of all time, mucho wins and plenty of exciting games. Yet we want more.

My point is that it’s time for me to except the beauty of what this is. Nothing is perfect but what we have is pretty darn close. So no more negativity. No more dissing. No more punking. I’m All In.

"We don't freestyle Texas Fight, big boy." - Coach Brown

by TXStampede on Nov 8, 2009 5:25 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm glad that you would sway more to the "Wells" way of thinking

The optimist is good. I hope GD doesn’t do anything in the future to make you think differently. Sorry, I put you on the defensive.

"I live in the tower with Coach Brown." -Bevo

by run Bevo run on Nov 8, 2009 10:14 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm just thinking

that your negative feelings about GD (as well as lots of other people) will always exist about any offensive coordinator we ever have at Texas. There will never be an offensive coordinator who calls all the perfect plays, gets his players to execute 100% of the time, and develops every recruit into NFL gold. In your plays that you cited above, essentially you were unhappy with one play call (the second WR screen call). I can’t say that I remember that part of the game, but irregardless that’s one play out of the entire drive. I don’t think 99.9999% of fans have one inkling of what it takes to put together an offense at the division 1 level. If it was so easy, everyone would do it well. I’m not trying attack you personally. These are just my thoughts on the whole “let’s bash GD every time something negative happens on offense” saga.

by aaronlybrand on Nov 8, 2009 8:05 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't think you understand my point

It’s not about calling the perfect play every down. One of the problems I have as I highlighted was the complete face palm of a call for that situation. How many offensive coordinators make an honest living in any league going back to back WR screens?
Yes, my feelings will always exist about any coordinator because I’m not a robot. I’m a fan, a huge fan. I like to re-watch the games 2 or 3 times. I enjoy seeing what’s going on every play including away from the ball. No, I’m not qualified to put together an offense for any football team. I don’t understand why I have to be in order to perceive what I think is a fault. I’m not a doctor, but I know this isn’t the way a finger is supposed to look on a hand. Just a thought.

"I live in the tower with Coach Brown." -Bevo

by run Bevo run on Nov 8, 2009 8:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Offensive LVP

Anybody still wondering why we lost Matthews to aTm? At what point do you start including the coach in the criticism alongside the players? Or does “the other Mac” get a pass because of years of solid lines before the last two?

Still a Blaine Irby fan

by patienthornsfan on Nov 8, 2009 4:40 AM CST reply actions  

I definitely think MacWhorter deserves a lot of the blame for the O-line's struggles.

Probably more than Davis. That said, prior to moving to a zone blocking scheme, we always had pretty good O-lines. And I don’t know how much this matters, but the guys on the phenomenal ‘05 line ran a zone blocking scheme but were recruited for man blocking schemes during the Chris Simms era. We really haven’t had a very good O-line since the last of those guys graduated after the ’06 season.

by billyzane on Nov 8, 2009 10:42 AM CST up reply actions  

Do you remember how inconsistent we ran the ball in '00-'02?

In those days we had Cedric Benson and couldn’t run the ball against elite defenses. The run game started to develop some consistency when VY came.

by aaronlybrand on Nov 8, 2009 8:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Those lines were coached by Tim Nunez

A man who now coaches offensive line for ehow.com.

MacWhorter’s overall tenure appears to be an improvement, as these things go.

proud to swim home

by learned hand on Nov 8, 2009 9:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Matthews

We know why we lost Matthews and besides the rumors about how his father felt about the Texas scheme, there are several things we know. The first is that his brother goes there and his dad owns a house in College Station. It’s also close to home, a priority for him. Lastly, Sherman is a former NFL guy and offensive line coach. Very little probably had to do with McWhorter.

by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Nov 10, 2009 1:05 PM CST up reply actions  

This D is NAAAAAAAASTY!

All in all, I think this Texas team is at about 75% of it’s potential. And that is a great place to be at week 9 I believe. The D right now I believe could hold bama or fla. to 14 or less and they still have all kinds of room to grow. And speaking of room to grow, the offense put up 5 touchdowns today and they actually looked out of sync at some points. I’m trying not to wear my burnt orange colored glasses but I’m so optimistic about this team it’s not even funny. Great post game react again PB you keep us orangebloods satisfied with all you do for this site.

You can't spell COCKSUCKER without OU.

by nathantx57 on Nov 8, 2009 4:41 AM CST reply actions  

PB,

Understand the desire to get Fozzy more touches, I’d like to see DJ get more too (really don’t understand that one) but who do you take touches away from?

At 67 total snaps, we were 10 plays below Mizzu and 13 below OU (games where we didn’t have D/ST scores which squew total play numbers)

I agree but not sure I know where the snaps come from.

by echeese on Nov 8, 2009 9:06 AM CST reply actions  

Indeed, my bad though in this case in only reinforces my point. This was a “get it done and go home” game.

PS, run game vs OU was strong relatively speaking and largely we shut ourselves down with untimely penalties (3 times after long 1st down gains we were back in 1st and 20) and fumbles.

Focus on your weaknesses and you end up with a strong weakness.

Focus on your strengths and you can dominate.

by echeese on Nov 8, 2009 11:20 AM CST up reply actions  

Hope I'm worried needlessly

I agree, the situations of the last few games have dictated, to some extent, how much we’ve been able to run. My concern throughout, however, is that I cannot get away from the idea that we will have to be able to run in the national title game. So long as we’re able to — great.

But understand that I’m not focused on our weakness just to focus on a weakness. Each and every time I try to point out that my interest in running has everything to do with supporting our strengths.

Hopefully we can.

You ain't hurt.

by Peter Bean on Nov 8, 2009 2:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Sorry TXstampede

The vocal concerns of the masses will remain until something changes. It is not acceptable to just win. I hate that Mac Brown quote on AM1530 (or whatever the new FM signal is now). Accepting mediocrity (or worse) in some department will come back to bite the horns when we play some stiffer competition.

Fix the scheme or abandon the run all together.

by thestos on Nov 8, 2009 9:54 AM CST reply actions  

Couldn't agree more

There is a problem when one of the country’s top scoring offenses typically comes out flat in the 1Q, especially against inferior competition.

It’s not that, as a fan, I expect perfection. There is a level of frustration because, IMO, the coaches are not getting the most out of the embarrassing bounty of talent placed at their feet each year. With a stable of varied and skillful TBs, it’s ridiculous that the team cannot break 100 yards rushing against a CUSA opponent.

Why does this matter? Because getting to the MNC matters. Because winning the MNC matters. Sure, you can get by Baylor without fixing this problem. Yes, you can cruise past the Knights without calling the game well in most of the first half.

But can you really get lucky week after week, when playing only 2-3 quarters on offense? And can you really expect to succeed in a MNC game under these conditions?

The kids are playing amazingly well this year. Amazingly well. With heart, determination and skill. They need their coaches – all of their coaches – to live up to that same standard with appropriate schemes, strategies and calls.

The defense is freakin’ incredible. With a few adjustments to the offense, this team could beat anyone, any time, any where.

Watch out, I bite.

by EddieTheAlbinoSquirrel on Nov 8, 2009 10:14 AM CST up reply actions  

Lets look at talent level and offensive output
There is a level of frustration because, IMO, the coaches are not getting the most out of the embarrassing bounty of talent placed at their feet each year.

Because I had the data for some other discussion, here are the top schools in order of 5 star recruits for the last 4 years (an arbitrary definition of talent I know but I am too lazy to get additional data):
USC 17
Florida 15
LSU 10
Bama 9
Tenn 8
tOSU 8
ND 7
Texas 7

Of all of the schools with equal if not better bounties of talent, who’s offense is better than ours and what does that say about GD’s coaching?

by Wells on Nov 8, 2009 11:17 AM CST up reply actions  

Wells

correct me if I’m wrong but aren’t all those 5 star guys for us except Allen on the D side of the ball?

Wow, that is impressive work and tells a huge story.

by echeese on Nov 8, 2009 11:21 AM CST up reply actions  

Sorry

Forgot about GG (2nd team QB) and Walters (injured)

by echeese on Nov 8, 2009 11:23 AM CST up reply actions  

Cool. That's what this site is all about.

But I’m no longer going to question the tactics of a man who has led our offense to a better than 82% winning percentage and on his way to 9 consecutive double-digit winning seasons. Ya’ll have at it.

"We don't freestyle Texas Fight, big boy." - Coach Brown

by TXStampede on Nov 8, 2009 10:16 AM CST up reply actions  

If he is a weak link in an incredibly strong chain

then I will question him. It is difficult to criticize anything while we are winning like this, but I just don’t think he has been great, even though on the whole we have been great.

"A lot of people look for the easy way to do anything, in swimming there is no easy way." - Eddie Reese

by SwimTexas on Nov 8, 2009 12:01 PM CST up reply actions  

I honestly don't understand

Winners strive for excellence – in sports, in business, in life. That means continual improvements and a drive to do better – all the time.

If a team does many things well, but has some problem areas, there is absolutely nothing wrong with recognizing and working to improve those problem areas. That’s what makes champions.

Watch out, I bite.

by EddieTheAlbinoSquirrel on Nov 8, 2009 12:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Question about Baylor

For someone who has never been to Waco to watch a game, and is planning on going, does it really matter if you get seats on the Baylor side? I figure the proximity to Austin will make this a virtual home game for Texas, and the Baylor web site has pretty good prices.

"Stats are for losers, I like winning games."

by SuperBentley on Nov 8, 2009 12:19 PM CST reply actions  

Doesn't matter

Technically, all but the few thousand tix in Texas’ allotment are the “Baylor side.” I’ve been to this game several times (my family lives in D/FW, so we travel to this game every other year because of the short drive and ease of getting tix). Even when sitting in heavily Baylor sections, there were more than enough Horn fans overall to make up for it.

In bad seasons (almost all seasons, since Big 12), many Baylor alums happily sell or give away their tix for the Texas beating. Last time I went to the game in Waco (2005 championship run; I missed the 2007 game to recover from giving birth, altho my hubby and son went), the stadium was about 65 percent orange.

Also, Baylor fans are typically pretty nice. They are a beaten-down bunch and expect to lose, so not much hostility. So even if you’re surrounded in green and gold, not many problems to be found. Some fans were incredibly nice to my son last time around; he was 5 at the time.

Of course, there are jerks everywhere. When I was hugely pregnant with my first boy, a Baylor fan decided it would be fun to taunt the fat lady. Weird.

Watch out, I bite.

by EddieTheAlbinoSquirrel on Nov 8, 2009 12:58 PM CST reply actions  

Thanks for that

I figured it wouldn’t be that bad

"Stats are for losers, I like winning games."

by SuperBentley on Nov 8, 2009 4:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Great substance

PB, your football analysis is consistently excellent and every week you hit on some really insightful points. That said, I’ve noticed in recent weeks that your writing style often obscures some of the fantastic substance. When I read sentences like this, “stilted” is the word that comes to mind:

In any case, well-established as are the various strengths and weaknesses of all involved, detailed analyses of substantial changes that might be made are at this point wishcasting.

Why not write what you mean in the plainest language possible? How about, “We are all aware of the strengths and weaknesses of the running game. Hoping for substantial changes at this point may be wishful thinking.” People are impressed by analysis (which you do as well as anyone), not by unnecessarily complex writing.

by Travis Wimberly on Nov 8, 2009 1:54 PM CST reply actions  

Law school

Honestly, I agree with you. It’s horrible, and what’s worse, it takes me longer to write these damn sentences than it did to bang out something simple.

The criticism is well taken.

You ain't hurt.

by Peter Bean on Nov 8, 2009 2:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Unacceptable

I would explain to your professors how their tedious writing assignments are getting in the way of your diction for this sports blog. HOW DARE THEY.

"Stats are for losers, I like winning games."

by SuperBentley on Nov 8, 2009 4:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Peter does that for a reason

He uses big words and sometimes an incomprehensible thought process to make him sound and feel important. It keeps him from crying at night and kicking his cat.
;)

Get off your knees Greg, you're blowin' the game.

by kriess on Nov 8, 2009 4:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Props

It takes a man to accept criticism like that. Big ups to you.

And keep up the great work. In my humble opinion, this blog and your posts in particular offer the best Longhorn-specific analysis out there.

by Travis Wimberly on Nov 8, 2009 6:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed PB

Quite gracious of you. I always thought you did that to keep confused all of the Aggies and Sooners who are Blog-hopping and looking to stir up trouble.

"A lot of people look for the easy way to do anything, in swimming there is no easy way." - Eddie Reese

by SwimTexas on Nov 8, 2009 7:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Thanks

Appreciate that

You ain't hurt.

by Peter Bean on Nov 8, 2009 9:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Defensive LVP

Tackling – I know it’s nitpicking, but we missed probably as many tackles in the UCF game as we have in the last four games combined. I’d probably attribute it to a little lack of focus. There is probably not a lot to worry about as Muschamp will address that this week in the film sessions. I expect to see an improvement this week versus Baylor.

by aaronlybrand on Nov 8, 2009 8:18 PM CST reply actions  

A few minor points

Once you get in the red zone, it gets much harder to pass because the field is compressed, speed becomes less important and power becomes more important. It would have not been easy to substitute TD passes for the TD runs.

As you mentioned, play action passing works only when the horns present a viable running threat. It is much easier to take shots downfield on play action fakes. When the horns are in 4 or 5 wide, there is no running threat because there is inadequate blocking because there is no TE. There is not much point in going 4 wide if you can’t block well enough to give Colt time to find a target.

OU shut Ship down with a single really good DB who was bigger and faster than Ship. Alabama or Florida may be able to do the same thing.

Kirkendoll and Chiles were the 3rd and 4th leading receivers for the horns last Saturday. They each had 40 yards receiving. Those are pretty big chunks (i.e. > 20%) of the non Ship receiving yardage. Kirk has been named a starter for the Baylor game. Calling that a minor role seems a bit dismissive.

“No longer miscast as a receiver with the ability to separate, Chiles is contributing nicely in the ways he’s able, developing into a solid possession guy helpful to keeping defenses honest.”

Actually Chiles was a solid possession WR before getting demoted.
 
Cody is listed as the starting TB for the Baylor game. Fozzy will be splitting time with Newton as the backup TB. Fozzy is talented but he is bouncing too many runs to the outside. If you want to go with 4 wide (i.e. play Buckner at flex “TE”), then the D will respond with a nickel or dime and will not honor the run. This means the TB needs to be great at blitz pickup, including LBs. Also Cody will be able to punish the extra DBs with his size/power when he gets a pass while Fozzy will be hurt by the extra speed the D deploys in a nickel or dime.

by Kafka on Nov 10, 2009 10:58 AM CST reply actions  

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