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USC Trojans at Texas Longhorns, Dec 3, 2009 8:00 PM CST



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USC Trojans @ Texas Longhorns

Thursday, Dec 3, 2009, 8:00 PM CST
Big 12/Pac 10 Hardwood Series - Frank Erwin Center
KenPom Ratings: Texas #1 (#9 AdjD  /  #1 AdjD)
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Texas looks to improve to 3-0 in the Pac 10-Big 12 Hardwood Series tonight, when USC make its first visit to Austin since 1985. The Trojans own a 5-4 lead in the all-time series, having edged ahead with their win over the Longhorns in the second round of the 2007 NCAA Tournament. Technically, this means that USC is responsible for the end of the Kevin Durant era at Texas. So f___ them. Let's win by 35. For KD, you know.

Hell, Texas might do just that. Tim Floyd is gone, OJ Mayo is rich, and USC's already dropped two games this year, including a home contest to Loyola Marymount. The Horns, meanwhile, maintain their top spot in the Pomeroy Ratings for a 16th consecutive day, which is the longest streak ever for Texas atop KP's rankings. The previous high was zero.

Game notes and keys to the game are after the jump.

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USC TROJANS AT A GLANCE

Conference:  Pac 10
Record:  2-2 (USC Game Plan)
Last Season:  22-13  (9-9)
Starters Lost/Returning:  3/2
Coach:  Kevin O'Neill (1st year)

Good bye Tim Floyd, and with him, three early entrants to the 2009 NBA Draft -- Taj Gibson, DeMar Derozan, and Daniel Hackett. Hello... Kevin O'Neill? Apparently so, which makes him the Kevin Bacon of basketball. What's this, his sixth coaching job?

With just two starters returning, O'Neill is basically starting from scratch, having lost the three to the NBA and all but one of Tim Floyd's incoming recruits. Senior Dwight Lewis (6-5, 215) led the team in scoring last year with 14.4 points, adding 3.3 boards, 2.1 assists, and 1.1 steals per game. He's a solid all-around player who does a lot of things pretty well, though nothing great. He's long and has a nice mid-range game, presenting a difficult match up if you try to guard him with a smaller guard. Sophomore Leonard Hamilton also returns, but he won't be starting tonight, or any time until later this month, when he returns from academic ineligibility.

So it's Lewis and four other starters, the most impressive of which so far has been sophomore forward Nikola Vucevic (6-10, 240), averaging 14.4 points and 10.3 boards a game. Senior (6-6, 210) Marcus Johnson is the probable starter at the other forward spot, but junior Alex Stephenson (6-9, 235) has been more productive, coming in off the bench. The UNC transfer returned home to be closer to a sick family member and has been productive, including a 13 point, 12 rebound, 3 block effort in a loss to Nebraska.

And that's pretty much it. The remaining two backcourt starters (Donte Smith and Marcus Simmons) have been terrible, scoring little and turning it over a lot.

KEYS TO THE GAME

  1. Halfcourt offense.  The Trojans are outmanned, badly, and Kevin O'Neill will do what he's been doing all year long: grind games to a near-halt -- 61.5 possessions per game so far this year (337th nationally). Fewer possessions will amplify the cost of mistakes and wasted chances, so if you're betting on Texas to cover the spread, hope that Texas can make a post-entry pass or two tonight. Or that USC scores 40 points. Which could happen.

  2. Shot selection.  I'm cheating here, but hey, getting the halfcourt offense caught up with the defense is all that stands between Texas and cutting down of nets, so its importance can't really be overstated. The Horns have been mixed in this regard so far this year, with some impressive runs interspersed with frustrating dead stretches when they seem to lose focus. If they ever put together a complete 40-minutes of excellence, some poor team is going to lose by 60. Literally.

  3. Make a @#*&$! free throw.  The freshmen made all of theirs against Rice. Everyone else shot blindfolded.

PREDICTION:  TEXAS 73  USC 49

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Keys to the game

We win this game no matter what, so in that sense there is hardly a key to the game.

But, my key would be to make them work for everything when USC is on offense and make them run when USC is on defense. About 5 minutes into the second half we should be scoring on pretty much every possession.

by Orbea on Dec 3, 2009 6:11 PM CST reply actions  

Should be a blowout

I’m a little nervous about us covering the spread since I’m not sure how well we’ll handle their sloooooow pace, but I talked myself into it. USC’s beyond thin, can’t shoot, and is on the road. After last week’s miracle cover, I feel like I can’t lose. Right?

You ain't hurt.

by Peter Bean on Dec 3, 2009 6:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Laying off

For the first time this year I’m not gonna touch the spread, but with that possession stat the under (133.5) is looking more appealing.

And I was too early against Rice… Ended up at -18.5 (doh!). Although I’m happy for the rest of you that got the miracle at 17.5!

by Horndogger on Dec 3, 2009 6:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Damn

Brutal.

You ain't hurt.

by Peter Bean on Dec 3, 2009 6:38 PM CST up reply actions  

how about gassed too

when Lil’ romeo is in and wetherall you know its bad…

by Paragon SC on Dec 3, 2009 9:02 PM CST up reply actions  

You think Tech gets into top 25 if they win?

by tblog123 on Dec 3, 2009 6:37 PM CST up reply actions  

gotta think yes

undefeated, beat #10… I’d expect high teens maybe

by Infield Elephant on Dec 3, 2009 6:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Tech looks really good

UW obviously isn’t playing badly — shooting well. Just can’t keep up on the Lubbock court, so far.

by tblog123 on Dec 3, 2009 7:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Phew...

Rum + Diet Cherry Doctor Pepper is a failed experiment.

by tblog123 on Dec 3, 2009 7:06 PM CST reply actions  

Try Jack and some ice in a rocks glass

works everytime :)

Your tongue can't repel flavor of that magnitude!!

by UT2001 on Dec 3, 2009 7:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Thanks for the tip.

I think my mistake was using Spiced Rum.

The more I drink the better it gets though…

by tblog123 on Dec 3, 2009 7:38 PM CST up reply actions  

I hope it's a blowout

But I’d be cool with a 41-38 finish. You know, just for memories.

"Stats are for losers, I like winning games."

by bendj on Dec 3, 2009 7:19 PM CST reply actions  

Heh.

ESPN would show a few more Rose Bowl clips.

UT might drop in the rankings though.

by tblog123 on Dec 3, 2009 7:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Oregon v Oregon State

Oregon comes out with a uniform about as ugly as Boise’s field. How many uniforms have they worn this year?

by Ohio Horn on Dec 3, 2009 7:54 PM CST reply actions  

You guys playing cards?

Your tongue can't repel flavor of that magnitude!!

by UT2001 on Dec 3, 2009 8:00 PM CST reply actions  

Tech is so cute

Tier 3 schools are awesome

Your tongue can't repel flavor of that magnitude!!

by UT2001 on Dec 3, 2009 8:03 PM CST reply actions  

Bobby Knight is about to fall asleep

by tblog123 on Dec 3, 2009 8:05 PM CST up reply actions  

they're doing it on purpose. I'm convinced.

3/19/2009 - Dogus Balbay Made a Three-Pointer. Never Forget.

by burrito on Dec 3, 2009 8:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Every time!

"I don't ever miss free throws. I'm like 100-percent from the free throw line. I just don't think about missing and if you think about missing you're going to miss. I just take my time and know I'm going to make it and I do," McClellan said.

by blazzinken on Dec 3, 2009 8:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Oregon turnover

OSU has the ball at the Oregon 21

Your tongue can't repel flavor of that magnitude!!

by UT2001 on Dec 3, 2009 8:05 PM CST reply actions  

wash can wrap it up here

by Infield Elephant on Dec 3, 2009 8:06 PM CST reply actions  

my worst B ball nightmare

is our team having to win on FT in March

Your tongue can't repel flavor of that magnitude!!

by UT2001 on Dec 3, 2009 8:07 PM CST reply actions  

Need too!

But wow, great great shot!

"I don't ever miss free throws. I'm like 100-percent from the free throw line. I just don't think about missing and if you think about missing you're going to miss. I just take my time and know I'm going to make it and I do," McClellan said.

by blazzinken on Dec 3, 2009 8:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Really???

Your tongue can't repel flavor of that magnitude!!

by UT2001 on Dec 3, 2009 8:08 PM CST reply actions  

Hilarious if it doesn't count

back to the stands you go fans. We have an overtime to play

by goingforthecorner on Dec 3, 2009 8:09 PM CST reply actions  

tortillas are flying everywhere!

3/19/2009 - Dogus Balbay Made a Three-Pointer. Never Forget.

by burrito on Dec 3, 2009 8:09 PM CST reply actions  

I just want our game to start

Your tongue can't repel flavor of that magnitude!!

by UT2001 on Dec 3, 2009 8:09 PM CST reply actions  

well for it to be televised

Your tongue can't repel flavor of that magnitude!!

by UT2001 on Dec 3, 2009 8:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Score!

"I don't ever miss free throws. I'm like 100-percent from the free throw line. I just don't think about missing and if you think about missing you're going to miss. I just take my time and know I'm going to make it and I do," McClellan said.

by blazzinken on Dec 3, 2009 8:10 PM CST up reply actions  

do we care about the civil war for any particular reason?

not sure which team i like. i actually kinda like them both

by drbadass on Dec 3, 2009 8:11 PM CST reply actions  

well it is college football

In a Pac-10 kind of way

Your tongue can't repel flavor of that magnitude!!

by UT2001 on Dec 3, 2009 8:11 PM CST up reply actions  

If Oregon State wins then the BCS looks stupid … again

by tblog123 on Dec 3, 2009 8:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Hahaha

If it had to go to OT I’m glad this was how

by 40AS on Dec 3, 2009 8:11 PM CST reply actions  

damn you tech

Your tongue can't repel flavor of that magnitude!!

by UT2001 on Dec 3, 2009 8:12 PM CST reply actions  

Arrgghhhhhh, Pirates storming court. Epic Fail!

"We don't freestyle Texas Fight, big boy." - Coach Brown

by TXStampede on Dec 3, 2009 8:13 PM CST reply actions  

Nice!

"I live in the tower with Coach Brown." -Bevo

by run Bevo run on Dec 3, 2009 8:16 PM CST reply actions  

Great Thursday night

Channels 201-204 here.
NFL football, Pac10 championship, HORNS, Spurs.
.

by hayzer13 on Dec 3, 2009 8:18 PM CST reply actions  

Hits both, miracle

"I live in the tower with Coach Brown." -Bevo

by run Bevo run on Dec 3, 2009 8:18 PM CST reply actions  

Bad Defense

"I live in the tower with Coach Brown." -Bevo

by run Bevo run on Dec 3, 2009 8:20 PM CST reply actions  

Wangmene having a bad game on D so far

Your tongue can't repel flavor of that magnitude!!

by UT2001 on Dec 3, 2009 8:20 PM CST reply actions  

Dear 6lb, 70z. Baby Jesus...

Please keep Dexter healthy this year.
Your friends,
UT Fans

"I live in the tower with Coach Brown." -Bevo

by run Bevo run on Dec 3, 2009 8:24 PM CST reply actions  

If tech goes to 2 OT

I’m gonna start drinking

Your tongue can't repel flavor of that magnitude!!

by UT2001 on Dec 3, 2009 8:26 PM CST reply actions  

Sexy Dexy fouled

USC over the limit 7 minutes in…hits the first

by 40AS on Dec 3, 2009 8:26 PM CST reply actions  

Barnes bringing in fresh legs. Gawd, we're deep.

"We don't freestyle Texas Fight, big boy." - Coach Brown

by TXStampede on Dec 3, 2009 8:26 PM CST reply actions  

AVERY!!!

Love the D

"I live in the tower with Coach Brown." -Bevo

by run Bevo run on Dec 3, 2009 8:27 PM CST reply actions  

Damion, very manly

"I live in the tower with Coach Brown." -Bevo

by run Bevo run on Dec 3, 2009 8:29 PM CST reply actions  

Looks like Tech

will take it

Your tongue can't repel flavor of that magnitude!!

by UT2001 on Dec 3, 2009 8:30 PM CST reply actions  

Wash is overrated

just looked at their schedule. I see a few close wins against bad mid-major schools.

by goingforthecorner on Dec 3, 2009 8:30 PM CST reply actions  

Missoli just throws a freaking bomb...OR 14 OSU 10 1st qtr

"We don't freestyle Texas Fight, big boy." - Coach Brown

by TXStampede on Dec 3, 2009 8:30 PM CST reply actions  

Jane Lynch = Win

"I live in the tower with Coach Brown." -Bevo

by run Bevo run on Dec 3, 2009 8:31 PM CST reply actions  

This is garbage.

Show the UT game!!!!!!!!!!!!11

by tblog123 on Dec 3, 2009 8:32 PM CST reply actions  

Yea

J’Covan looks down right poised compared to Avery

by 40AS on Dec 3, 2009 8:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Thanks again for the updates. Sounds like we need to step it up.

by tblog123 on Dec 3, 2009 8:37 PM CST up reply actions  

we're on ESPN 2 now

Your tongue can't repel flavor of that magnitude!!

by UT2001 on Dec 3, 2009 8:36 PM CST reply actions  

Is it wrong to question the size of the logo at halfcourt?

Maybe it could be a bit smaller?

Your tongue can't repel flavor of that magnitude!!

by UT2001 on Dec 3, 2009 8:37 PM CST reply actions  

then it should go from baseline to baseline

Your tongue can't repel flavor of that magnitude!!

by UT2001 on Dec 3, 2009 8:39 PM CST up reply actions  

Florida puts their garbage-ass gator at half court, about that size.

by tblog123 on Dec 3, 2009 8:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Garbage-ass gator

Nice

Your tongue can't repel flavor of that magnitude!!

by UT2001 on Dec 3, 2009 8:41 PM CST up reply actions  

I was actually kidding. It is a little over the top, but at least people will never need an announcer to tell them what basketball team they are watching.

by dimecoverage on Dec 3, 2009 8:40 PM CST up reply actions  

Nice assist from James...he is ballin' 2nite!

"We don't freestyle Texas Fight, big boy." - Coach Brown

by TXStampede on Dec 3, 2009 8:42 PM CST reply actions  

Anyone know what we're shooting?

Your tongue can't repel flavor of that magnitude!!

by UT2001 on Dec 3, 2009 8:43 PM CST reply actions  

Guessing: less than 37%

"We don't freestyle Texas Fight, big boy." - Coach Brown

by TXStampede on Dec 3, 2009 8:43 PM CST up reply actions  

I miss Ward

Your tongue can't repel flavor of that magnitude!!

by UT2001 on Dec 3, 2009 8:44 PM CST reply actions  

Nice soft jumper there by Hamilton.

"We don't freestyle Texas Fight, big boy." - Coach Brown

by TXStampede on Dec 3, 2009 8:44 PM CST reply actions  

Balbay!!!

the offensive rebound and the layup. What athleticism.

by goingforthecorner on Dec 3, 2009 8:45 PM CST reply actions  

DEFENSE. Let's go guys.

"We don't freestyle Texas Fight, big boy." - Coach Brown

by TXStampede on Dec 3, 2009 8:47 PM CST reply actions  

J'Covan

Anyone else have concerns about him being a selfish player?

by That'sCrazy on Dec 3, 2009 8:48 PM CST reply actions  

I wouldn't say selfish

just very, perhaps overly confident and tries to do too much.

by hayzer13 on Dec 3, 2009 8:51 PM CST up reply actions  

I guess that's a better way to say it.

He seems very arrogant. I guess I can see why he had issues his final year of high school.

by That'sCrazy on Dec 3, 2009 8:53 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't think it's arrogance

I think he just plays overhyped…it’s great at times but he needs to learn to channel his emotions

by 40AS on Dec 3, 2009 8:55 PM CST up reply actions  

what's his verticle? a foot?

3/19/2009 - Dogus Balbay Made a Three-Pointer. Never Forget.

by burrito on Dec 3, 2009 8:54 PM CST up reply actions  

nevermind

3/19/2009 - Dogus Balbay Made a Three-Pointer. Never Forget.

by burrito on Dec 3, 2009 8:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Pittman misses another point blank shot

but luckily James follows his shot.

Bradley steal, pass to James for the DUNK!

by goingforthecorner on Dec 3, 2009 8:54 PM CST reply actions  

James has put this team on his shoulders so far tonight.

"We don't freestyle Texas Fight, big boy." - Coach Brown

by TXStampede on Dec 3, 2009 8:55 PM CST reply actions  

dexy has 5 blocks!!

Your tongue can't repel flavor of that magnitude!!

by UT2001 on Dec 3, 2009 8:56 PM CST reply actions  

PITTMAN Block. Take that shit back to socal trojan.

"We don't freestyle Texas Fight, big boy." - Coach Brown

by TXStampede on Dec 3, 2009 8:56 PM CST reply actions  

Would be nice if we could actually get the ball back from the blocks

blocking it out of bounds isn’t really useful unless the shot clock is down.

by goingforthecorner on Dec 3, 2009 8:57 PM CST reply actions  

There we go Dexy

putback from Bradley’s layup. Fran just called him Sexy Dexy haha

by goingforthecorner on Dec 3, 2009 8:57 PM CST reply actions  

Good defense

Can’t shoot worth crap, still up 6 with one more possession

by 40AS on Dec 3, 2009 8:58 PM CST reply actions  

least its not a usc hat

Your tongue can't repel flavor of that magnitude!!

by UT2001 on Dec 3, 2009 8:59 PM CST up reply actions  

maybe he's a fellow Laker fan!

basks in hate

3/19/2009 - Dogus Balbay Made a Three-Pointer. Never Forget.

by burrito on Dec 3, 2009 9:00 PM CST up reply actions  

It was a Dodgers hat

Your tongue can't repel flavor of that magnitude!!

by UT2001 on Dec 3, 2009 9:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Ooh

Not the way he shot that one

by 40AS on Dec 3, 2009 9:00 PM CST up reply actions  

1st half UT stats

I guess the only thing better than horns shooting less than 39% from the floor and less than 65% from the line is trojans shooting less than 32% from the floor on 7 more shots. Ugly offensive 1st half for the horns. We have got to get bodies on their big men.

"We don't freestyle Texas Fight, big boy." - Coach Brown

by TXStampede on Dec 3, 2009 9:09 PM CST reply actions  

What was the line of this game anyways?

JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook

by laxtonto on Dec 3, 2009 9:17 PM CST reply actions  

DEXTER

"We don't freestyle Texas Fight, big boy." - Coach Brown

by TXStampede on Dec 3, 2009 9:20 PM CST reply actions  

Just look at Sexy Dexy and tell me you don't care

Your tongue can't repel flavor of that magnitude!!

by UT2001 on Dec 3, 2009 9:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Give up Pro football

and make room for Texas Basketball

by Ohio Horn on Dec 3, 2009 9:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Then give up wife and dog.

We’re your family now

Your tongue can't repel flavor of that magnitude!!

by UT2001 on Dec 3, 2009 9:23 PM CST up reply actions  

lol

JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook

by laxtonto on Dec 3, 2009 9:24 PM CST up reply actions  

PIP, DVR, 1080p, Cable modem

no need for all that other collateral.

"We don't freestyle Texas Fight, big boy." - Coach Brown

by TXStampede on Dec 3, 2009 9:24 PM CST up reply actions  

watch us shoot FT's

it’ll break your heart, them you can pick up the pieces and reorganize your priorities/loves.

by hayzer13 on Dec 3, 2009 9:25 PM CST up reply actions  

Nice steal and dunk by Mason.

"We don't freestyle Texas Fight, big boy." - Coach Brown

by TXStampede on Dec 3, 2009 9:26 PM CST reply actions  

I wonder what Brian Boddicker is up to?

Your tongue can't repel flavor of that magnitude!!

by UT2001 on Dec 3, 2009 9:33 PM CST reply actions  

FT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR Me Angry!!!!!!!!

Your tongue can't repel flavor of that magnitude!!

by UT2001 on Dec 3, 2009 9:34 PM CST reply actions  

FUCKING FREE THROWS

They are FREE

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by UT2001 on Dec 3, 2009 9:36 PM CST reply actions  

Aaaaavery.

"We don't freestyle Texas Fight, big boy." - Coach Brown

by TXStampede on Dec 3, 2009 9:38 PM CST reply actions  

Wangmene needs so find the bench

Your tongue can't repel flavor of that magnitude!!

by UT2001 on Dec 3, 2009 9:39 PM CST reply actions  

Just wow

Your tongue can't repel flavor of that magnitude!!

by UT2001 on Dec 3, 2009 9:40 PM CST reply actions  

Team failing to find any offensive rythm.

We need a QB on the floor and I’m afraid we have not identified him as of yet.

"We don't freestyle Texas Fight, big boy." - Coach Brown

by TXStampede on Dec 3, 2009 9:41 PM CST reply actions  

We need Ogden to suit back up and lead this team

Your tongue can't repel flavor of that magnitude!!

by UT2001 on Dec 3, 2009 9:42 PM CST up reply actions  

This team makes me want to drink

In fact, I’m headed to the liquor cabinet for some Jack. Taking a drink after every missed FT

Your tongue can't repel flavor of that magnitude!!

by UT2001 on Dec 3, 2009 9:42 PM CST reply actions  

Can't believe USC is in this game

wonder when Barnes is going to start working on the offense? We’re now 10-22 from the line.

by goingforthecorner on Dec 3, 2009 9:48 PM CST reply actions  

OK, time to let the Tivo take over

I’ve got a lot of work stress right now, and thanks to this game, I can now hear my heartbeat in my skull. Time for a shot and bed. I’ll watch the end tomorrow, when I know the outcome already. : )

Night and hook ’em!

Watch out, I bite.

by EddieTheAlbinoSquirrel on Dec 3, 2009 9:53 PM CST reply actions  

Vucevic fouls out!!!

Looks like we’re going to pull away with him gone.

by goingforthecorner on Dec 3, 2009 10:01 PM CST reply actions  

66-48 Texas

22-7 run late in the game once again.

the offensive possessions of Texas’ opponents this year in the last 10 minutes have been a nightmare….all the credit to our full game of defense.

by silky51 on Dec 3, 2009 10:11 PM CST reply actions  

I wonder how many people put there

wanted USC to run play that last possession??

JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook

by laxtonto on Dec 3, 2009 10:17 PM CST up reply actions  

is this the impromtu OU/OSU GD thread?

JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook

by laxtonto on Dec 3, 2009 10:21 PM CST up reply actions  

See you guys in Arlington

Will be hanging out at the Hooters in Arlington for the Fox Sports SW watch party before the game. Let’s shuck some corn. Hook ’em

by BossierTex on Dec 3, 2009 10:30 PM CST reply actions  

TD OREGON!!!

Sorry… still hold a grudge against OSU

JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook

by laxtonto on Dec 3, 2009 10:32 PM CST reply actions  

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