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Bevo's Daily Roundup - December 31, 2009

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Texas and Florida's basketball programs have a lot in common.

Yes, football is great at those institutions, but what about hoops? Billy Donovan won a pair of national championships with Florida and Texas coach Rick Barnes has led his team to a Final Four appearance. It's easy to see that basketball is important at those two schools.

Yet Billy Donovan and Rick Barnes have more in common than just success. They have both gone out and embraced football in a positive way. They sell their basketball programs by including football as an asset. Both Donovan and Barnes enjoy great situations. In the world of recruiting, a football weekend can draw a player into an amazing atmosphere. I have heard some coaches over the years complain that they are having a tough time because football dominates the athletic program. They argue that the dollars and facilities primarily go to the football program.

The Washington Times does not like our chamces against Alabama.

When the BCS title game features two teams with 13-0 records and storied histories, the season's most compelling bowl game becomes even more obvious. Compelling? Yes. Competitive? Don't bet on it - not when Alabama's Nick Saban has a month to prepare for Mack Brown and the state that gave us "strategery."

$3 tickets are available for Saturday's game with Texas A&M-Corpus Christ.

 

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So long.

Mike Leach has been fired. It was ugly long before the Adam James situation. (Texas Tech's official statement.)

The first e-mail among this group, dated one year before Leach's firing, shows Sowell recommending to Hance and Myers that Tech should stand firm in its negotiations with the coach. "You should sign a contract that would not cost us too much to fire him," Sowell wrote. "He has to have a big buyout. He has shown no loyalty."

What's the future for Mike Leach?

The more intriguing question is, what becomes of Leach? Over the past few years, as his reputation finally morphed from that of a gimmick artist to a legitimately respected football coach, he sought desperately to get out of Lubbock, interviewing with Miami and Washington and entertaining other suitors. But no opportunity came to pass. To say he's an "oddball" is putting it mildly, which likely made for some "unique" interviews.

Now, with the stigma of a job-ending scandal -- one involving the particularly sensitive subject of concussions -- he's going to find it infinitely more difficult to land a cushy gig. Leach's ego would likely welcome the opportunity to take his system to the pros as a coordinator, but the button-down NFL would seem even less welcoming. More realistically, some college mid-major is going to luck out and get an accomplished coach on the cheap, but only if it's capable of viewing the James incident as an aberration and/or exaggeration.

Tech faces more problems than just finding a new head coach.

This situation is likely more impactful for potential offensive recruits, who were attracted to Leach's wide-open, high-scoring system. But given a roster that lacks depth at running back, has no fullbacks or tight ends and has been molded to play with a unique scheme, Tech's choices of candidates are limited if it doesn't want to revamp the entire offensive system. The other problem is Leach ran the entire offense and there isn't a high-profile offensive assistant who could take over without the offense missing a beat. There are also few coaches out there who could take a roster built for Leach's spread offense -- and let's face it, Leach's version of the spread is different than any other out there -- but a few coaches whose systems could work with this roster include Baylor's Art Briles and Houston Kevin Sumlin. Briles was a former Texas Tech assistant under Leach.

The Aggies are always winners. Maybe just not on the field.

"I told (the players) before the game that no matter what happens, we went on a journey together this season, and we had our peaks and valleys, but we came together as a team," Sherman said. "I said, regardless of what happens — and I fully expected us to win — whether you're winners or not is not dictated by this game.

"You guys are winners and have demonstrated that consistently with how you work and how you take care of your business."

Joe Kines, the Aggie's defensive coordinator, is retiring.

"Texas A&M is a great place with outstanding people and terrific traditions and this has been a great experience for me and my wife," Kines said. "With the young players and the incoming recruits, I know the future is bright for Aggie football. It's time for me and Rubye to spend a lot more time with our grandsons."

 

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"T.C.U. is like a cockroach," Royal complained then. "It isn’t what he
eats or carries off, but what he falls into and messes up."

Darrell Royal once compared TCU to cockroaches.

The Horned Frogs spent most of the 1970s and early '80s at or near the bottom of the Southwest Conference. Texas coach Darrell Royal once compared them to cockroaches. One coach died seven games into his tenure, right on the sideline. A year and a half after ending a 19-year bowl drought in 1984, the Horned Frogs landed on NCAA probation, which included a one-year postseason ban in 1986.

Coaches walk a fine line between when disciplining a player.

Fred Akers coached at Texas from 1977 to '86, directing the Longhorns to bowl games in all but one of those seasons. Akers acknowledged the importance of being strict with and instilling order in a team, but he said it is equally vital for a coach to demonstrate a considerable measure of self-restraint, as well.

Akers and several other former coaches contacted for this story agreed that coaching and parenting are not all that different in that regard.

"I think it's almost comical, if it weren't so serious, that too many parents and too many coaches kind of treat players and children like dirt during the week and then on the weekend when the game comes up, they tell them, 'Okay, now go out and be great,' " Akers said.

 

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No one except the Alabama fans

seem to give us a chance. Yet they claim we’re “not underdogs”. Riiiiiiiight

by GoHorns on Dec 30, 2009 10:02 PM CST reply actions  

that was an asinine comment re: "strategery"

Plus, Saban’s had a month before to prep for Mack … and lost.

Is that writer trying to be funny … because he failed? Filling space? Check.

"I've always been an admirer of Texas' clock management. Now, I am completely sold." -- Les Miles

by Distributor of the Football on Dec 30, 2009 10:17 PM CST reply actions  

Well, the idiot that wrote that . . .

. . . is presumably now unemployed, since the Times announced today that it’s cutting its sports section.

Having lived in DC, I know that “Sports Writer” for the Washington Times is even worse than being a sports writer for the Wall Street Journal. Or “was,” I should say.

by Hopkins Horn on Dec 30, 2009 10:21 PM CST up reply actions  

I seem to remember the comment ...

 … that nobody could beat Pete Carroll, if he had a month to prepare. Hmmm.

Watch out, I bite.

by EddieTheAlbinoSquirrel on Dec 30, 2009 10:24 PM CST up reply actions  

For a long time

I wondered why so many people were so negative about Mack Brown. One of the big reasons (outside of jealousy) is revealed by this quote: he reminds people of George W. Bush. He sort of looks like him and talks like him. No matter how fair it is, that similarity remains in peoples’ minds.

Your Man In the Balkans

by Kahuna on Dec 31, 2009 4:12 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Seriously?

This comment strikes me as quite bizarre.

Watch out, I bite.

by EddieTheAlbinoSquirrel on Dec 31, 2009 9:41 AM CST up reply actions  

I remember that Royal quote, it was right after TCU beat Texas and cost ’em a shot at the title. One of the few good times for my side in the TCU/Texas series.

by HawkeyedFrog on Dec 30, 2009 10:34 PM CST reply actions  

Washington times sports writer is a moron

" Competitive? Don’t bet on it – not when Alabama’s Nick Saban has a month to prepare for Mack Brown and the state that gave us “strategery.”

 This quote is idiotic. The last time Nick Saban had a month to prepare for Mack Brown he lost. 2003 Cotton Bowl Mack Brown’s Texas: 35 Nick Saban’s LSU: 20

This was the same LSU team that won the BCS National Championship the next year. To claim that a blowout will occur because of some coaching advantage is just plain stupid.

by Caltex on Dec 31, 2009 3:28 AM CST reply actions  

Happy New Year, dime!

"We don't freestyle Texas Fight, big boy." - Coach Brown

by TXStampede on Dec 31, 2009 7:16 AM CST reply actions  

The Washington Times does not like our chamces against Alabama.

Anytime the Washington Times picks against or criticizes someone or something, it’s usually a good idea to bet on that person or thing.

by burntorangehorn on Dec 31, 2009 7:53 AM CST reply actions  

When I want a primer on bad journalism, I usually log on to the Washington Times site. Thayer Evans and Jayson Blair would be right at home at that paper.

by dimecoverage on Dec 31, 2009 8:51 AM CST up reply actions  

Here's my take on anyone who says Texas won't beat Alabama

Please write more… More articles on why Texas will get whipped, more articles on why Texas does not belong and more articles on why this will be one more year that the Big 12 will be dominated by SEC…

I want more coverage on ESPN on how Alabama will dominate the line of scrimmage and will force Colt into making the wrong decisions. On how Alabama’s offense will score a lot against a Big 12 Texas defense….

I want more… The more you do the more it will fun for us all when its all said and done.. and Texas whips your sorry ass…

by Crimson Fog on Dec 31, 2009 9:02 AM CST up reply actions  

Wash. Times = Fox News

The Times is a right wing rag where objectivity goes to die. I am NOT looking for a political fight here (some of my best friends are conservatives (snark!)) as I’m sure left wing rags have a similar lack of objective ‘journalism’. I’m just offering that taking sides, often irrationally, is what they do there. Put ZERO credence in their screeching scrawls.

41-38 !!

by JoeT63 on Dec 31, 2009 10:39 AM CST up reply actions  

If you're not looking for a political fight ...

 … then don’t make comments likely to put off conservatives.

Watch out, I bite.

by EddieTheAlbinoSquirrel on Dec 31, 2009 11:29 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

-1

for the reference to political affiliations.

by SpiritOfTheFedora on Dec 31, 2009 11:31 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm all in

Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.

by Caradoc on Dec 31, 2009 3:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Washington Times is ridiculous

But I don’t want this to regress into a left/right discussion, because that spells bad news for a BON thread.

by burntorangehorn on Dec 31, 2009 11:36 AM CST up reply actions  

It's possible . . .

 . . . to state that the Times is a bad paper (a view with which I agree, having lived in DC for years) for reasons that have nothing to do with its conservative slant.

by Hopkins Horn on Dec 31, 2009 1:01 PM CST up reply actions  

That was me, not BOH.

His was apolitical…as mine was intended to be. I just happened to swing-and-miss.

41-38 !!

by JoeT63 on Dec 31, 2009 1:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed.

But he didn’t say, “the times is a bad paper, i would never read it.” He said “anytime the times picks against or criticizes something, its usually a good idea to bet on that thing.” The first criticizes the quality of the paper, the second criticizes the point of view of the paper.

by hornalum08 on Dec 31, 2009 1:08 PM CST up reply actions  

The paper is garbage

Everything, from the writers to the editing, is garbage. The sports, features, political columns, and even the classified ads are below what I would even call second-rate.

I did not zero in on politics. There are many other things that paper has criticized outside of politics/policies/politicians, including various sports teams, companies, pop personalities, etc. So why do you find it necessary to make the inference that I was specifically zeroing in on politics? It tends to make me think that you’re a fan of the politics of WashTimes or something, and are accustomed to the political criticism, resulting in a knee-jerk reaction to any general criticism of the paper.

by burntorangehorn on Dec 31, 2009 1:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed. I originally said the paper was bad. No political slant intended, it is just bad by journalistic standards.

Unfortunately, it was slim pickins yesterday for the Daily Roundup so you get the Washington Times. :-)

At least it wasn’t Thayer Evans. Billy Zane beat me to it.

by dimecoverage on Dec 31, 2009 1:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Regardless of your political ideology, this comment is correct. The Washington Times is an openly biased political rag which is literally owned by the Moonies, or more properly Sun Myung Moon himself. It is the Beltway equivalent of the New York Post.

by hodad on Dec 31, 2009 11:39 AM CST up reply actions  

NY Times = MSNBC

The Times is a left wing rag where objectivity goes to die. I am NOT looking for a political fight here (some of my best friends are liberals (snark!)) as I’m sure the handful of right wing rags have a similar lack of objective ‘journalism’. I’m just offering that taking sides, often irrationally, is what they do there. Put ZERO credence in their screeching scrawls.

plus, they hire Thayer Evans…

You see how much that added to the discussion?
At the end of the day, a ton of people with varying degrees of actual knowledge about college football are going to “not like our chances” against that juggernaut from Alabama. Primarily because of the last games we both played – Auburn and Tennessee games have gone deep into the memory hole, as have our OSU and Mizzou games. Plus, they’re from the SEC!!!!! So they must be truly much greater than we are… Fortunately, much like the last time we spent a bowl season hearing how we had no chance, we get to actually play them and see how it all comes out.

by Pflash on Dec 31, 2009 11:46 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Well played . . .

. . . and now that we have the tit-for-tat out of the way, enough politics!

by Hopkins Horn on Dec 31, 2009 12:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed

We need to get past this. I’ve long accepted that many Texas fans are going to disagree strongly with my (well-reasoned and infallible!) political opinions, which is why I try to avoid it as much as possible in discussions. If it’s out there, and there’s the chance to clear something else, sometimes I have a moment of weakness, but it rarely ends well for anyone.

by burntorangehorn on Dec 31, 2009 1:36 PM CST up reply actions  

I swear I wasn't trying to be contentious,

but I understand the replies and apologize for my shortcomings.

41-38 !!

by JoeT63 on Dec 31, 2009 12:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Mike Leach

Maybe Texas should hire Mike Leach as our new OC… I know he would be better that what we got… Think about it.. Crazy Pirate and Coach Boom… Innovative offense with an explosive defense… That would be fun

Sorry I know the discussion here has been elsewhere.. But I was too excited to not share

by Crimson Fog on Dec 31, 2009 8:52 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

If you think our running game was bad before...

wait until Leach takes the reins as OC.

Hook 'em Horns

by LonghornWSO on Dec 31, 2009 9:05 AM CST up reply actions  

If Leach could make the running game work as well

hell, I’d take em over greg davis. It’s not like GD was getting the running game going to much of any extent this season.

TEXAS FIGHT

by Darklust on Jan 1, 2010 10:14 AM CST up reply actions  

Could probably make more things happen at Texas

But still want to know why you think its such a bad idea

by Crimson Fog on Dec 31, 2009 8:54 AM CST reply actions  

Because the guy is an assclown

And we want no part of him in Austin. Mack’s entire tenure has had an aura of class. Something phenomenally stupid comes out of Leach’s mouth almost every time he opens it.

Would the offense improve under his direction? Probably. But no one on the current staff would put up with the guy, and I’m guessing the fans wouldn’t be too happy about it, either. But it’s fun to play “what if…”

If the world was a school, we'd be homecoming king...

by adt2 on Dec 31, 2009 9:01 AM CST up reply actions  

adt2,
Well said.
dimecoverage

by dimecoverage on Dec 31, 2009 9:22 AM CST up reply actions  

I think hazing is a bit of a stretch.

Sure he was made an example of. Maybe the line between discipline and hazing is a lot thinner now.

"I live in the tower with Coach Brown." -Bevo

by run Bevo run on Dec 31, 2009 9:47 AM CST up reply actions  

Leach did not get fired for hazing. Leach got fired because Leach is Leach. His asinine behavior caught up with him. Adam James just gave Tech the excuse to can him. It was going to happen at some point. They were just waiting for the when.

by dimecoverage on Dec 31, 2009 9:53 AM CST up reply actions  

I think Mack and Mike could each get over it

But there’s no way Mack fires Greg Davis, the most powerful boosters and board members wouldn’t want Leach in the organization, and Leach is a Stoops guy anyway.

by burntorangehorn on Dec 31, 2009 9:13 AM CST up reply actions  

yeah good point

The stoops connection makes it difficult, I agree. The boosters should not care because its really going to be up to Mack.

by Crimson Fog on Dec 31, 2009 9:15 AM CST up reply actions  

The boosters (the conservative money men…and they are CONSERVATIVE) would never ut up with Leach’s anti-social behavior. Plus, if he can’t prove that the James’ story was an outright lie, then he will have a hard time getting a high profile job. Texas would not touch him.

by dimecoverage on Dec 31, 2009 10:44 AM CST up reply actions  

outright lie?

I don’t think the burden of proof is going to be that stringent…

Making a kid stand in a “closet”, if it turns out to be true that it’s where press conferences are held is going to look a lot sillier when things calm down a little.

Compared to things that have been reported through the years, from books like ‘Meat on the Hoof’ to stories coming out of firings like Frank Kush and Woody Hayes, and of course, Mangino, that’s downright mild. I saw things a lot worse than that in junior high football. Basically though, you’re right that the whole thing is just an excuse to get rid of him, and the rush is to get it done without having to pony up the bonus due him Thursday. When it’s all said and done, I bet they’ll end up wishing they’d paid up and found a more palatable way to move him on…

You’re also right that “Texas would not touch him”, although I kind of wish they would. It would certainly be interesting to see what he would do with the level of talent he’d have available, and with a premier defense.

by Pflash on Dec 31, 2009 11:37 AM CST up reply actions  

There are very few schools that want the taint of any player mistreatment, credible or not.

But no one wants him. Read the emails at the Dallas Morning News. (Link from EDSBS.) Tech officials referenced at his “interviews” at Auburn and Washington.

by dimecoverage on Dec 31, 2009 2:03 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't think that's necessarily true

Because Texas won the national championship with Greg Davis, yet people complain about him all the time in here.

by burntorangehorn on Dec 31, 2009 9:19 AM CST up reply actions  

That's right but

Mack has reason to keep him. You really can’t argue with results.

by Crimson Fog on Dec 31, 2009 9:23 AM CST up reply actions  

You can when he's making the offense one dimensional

Anytime a defense has a good defensive line, we’ve struggled more to put points on the board. Granted that’s more of a problem with MacWhorter than Greg.

TEXAS FIGHT

by Darklust on Jan 1, 2010 10:19 AM CST up reply actions  

And that's mostly been this year

UT hasn’t struggled against good defensive lines for all of Davis’ era. Ohio State is an example.

by burntorangehorn on Jan 1, 2010 12:52 PM CST up reply actions  

That's why you shut him up

Here’s my point…
Mike Leach’s only a problem when he speaks to the media. But left to his ruminations, the guy is a genius. One of the things that Mack brings to the table is class and I get that. But he is able to do one more thing. Bring out the best in his coaches, especially harnessing the passion that boils within them. We have seen him do this with Coach Boom.. But lets face it, we do not have an OC who is remotely passionate about the game as Coach Boom or Mike Leach…

So Shut him up. Bring him in, make him an assistant offensive coordinator and lock him up in a closet with his crazy pirate shit and a playbook… Good things will happen

by Crimson Fog on Dec 31, 2009 9:06 AM CST reply actions  

No way we hire The Leach. As much as i hate GD’s play calling he gets the job done…painful to watch but his plans work well when needed the most. Roll Horns Roll…bama fans wil love that!

by Dawnpatrol on Dec 31, 2009 9:37 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

ESPN...and black helicopters

Anyone notice that ESPN is mot talking about the Huskers win last night…at all…maybe because they don’t want to stir up the conversation that The Husker D was awesome again…and just maybe prepared the Horms for an Alabama D that’s not as good…

by Dawnpatrol on Dec 31, 2009 9:45 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

Agenda, Agenda, Agenda. That’s all ESPN has now. Sad, really. I used to love ESPN. Not anymore.

by GoHorns on Dec 31, 2009 9:48 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

True

I have a friend who is a writer st ESPN and the agenda is SEC…thats where the money goes. F the BCS and ESPN

by Dawnpatrol on Dec 31, 2009 9:51 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

You think it's bad now,

remember that ESPN bought the rights to the BCS games and will be the primary broadcaster going forward. So that means the idiot talking heads who determine the BCS participants with their blather already(idiot voters who don’t watch games listen to idiot talking heads), will now talk up the matchups they want. The collusion is going to be ridiculous, and obvious to everyone, but it’ll be very difficult to do anything about.

41-38 !!

by JoeT63 on Dec 31, 2009 10:32 AM CST up reply actions  

They should give Nebraska credit for a good win. Even Zac Lee looked…well, he looked like a semi-decent QB.

ESPN would have to admit that the Big 12 actually has some good players and teams. Perish the thought.

by dimecoverage on Dec 31, 2009 9:52 AM CST up reply actions  

I did hear reference...

… to the ‘Horns last night, either during the Holiday Bowl broadcast or on one of the ESPN’s. They said something about “this defensive effort puts the Texas game in a different context…”. It was never further explained, but at least one of them referred to Nebraska’s D as a reason we had such a tough time in Arlington.

41-38 !!

by JoeT63 on Dec 31, 2009 10:47 AM CST up reply actions  

I heard the comment. I thought I dreamed the whole thing.

Good to know there was a witness.

by dimecoverage on Dec 31, 2009 10:51 AM CST up reply actions  

Not only did I hear it, it came from Lou Holtz!!??

by WanderingHorn on Dec 31, 2009 1:13 PM CST up reply actions  

I think this persecution complex that a lot of UT fans has is pointless. Texas can prove itself on the field seven days from today. ESPN’s bias is irrelevant.

Also to be fair, the SEC has won four of the last five MNCs. There’s a legit reason for ESPN to be slobbing on the SEC’s knob. That said I think we win.

by hodad on Dec 31, 2009 11:45 AM CST up reply actions  

SEC and USC

It’s not happenstance that the BCS bowls are in home territory for SEC and USC.

by burntorangehorn on Dec 31, 2009 11:50 AM CST up reply actions  

Only insofar as that the SEC and USC being in climates that are reliably warm and sunny around New Years. Its not like there was some BCS conspiracy to give Arizona State a home game at the Fiesta Bowl. Texas could have that advantage too if the Cotton Bowl (the stadium) hadn’t been allowed to stagnate so much. We (and OU, A&M, and Tech) will have it in a few years (I put the line at 2.5 years) when the Cotton Bowl is elevated to a BCS Bowl and played in the Death Star.

by hodad on Dec 31, 2009 11:56 AM CST up reply actions  

One could hope

But then the issue

But I do think it’s obvious that the de facto home games for SEC and Pac 10 (pronounced “USC”) winners are very beneficial for those teams. Put the BCS championship in Cleveland once every four years, and I think Ohio State wins a little more.

by burntorangehorn on Dec 31, 2009 12:04 PM CST up reply actions  

not sure how 'legit' the reason...

especially the degree of the knob-slobbing they’re doing…

First – it’s four of the last six- not five. And who did they beat? Last year, an OU team by 10 on a neutral field… exactly like we did. The two previous years, they beat a flawed Ohio State team – both results shocked absolutely no one outside Big 10 country, and I think both years other non-SEC teams would have done the same thing. And going way back to ’04, LSU beat an OU team far less convincingly than K State had done their previous game.

I think the SEC is probably the strongest conference the last few years, but that’s primarily once you get to the second tier. At the top, I don’t really think they’re any stronger than the top tier of other conferences. Certainly they’re not enough better to excuse the sheer magnitude of the ESPN/CBS knob-slobbing…

by Pflash on Dec 31, 2009 12:04 PM CST up reply actions  

More like a home field
Last year, an OU team by 10 on a neutral field… exactly like we did.

It was in Florida, after all, much like LSU’s two BCS championship wins were in NOLA.

by burntorangehorn on Dec 31, 2009 12:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Irrelevant . . .

. . . as irrelevant as the fact that we play OU in the state of Texas.

If we had lost to USC, would you have blamed the loss on the fact that the game was in California?

by Hopkins Horn on Dec 31, 2009 12:47 PM CST up reply actions  

OU and UT in Dallas is not nearly the same thing

Dallas isn’t completely neutral territory, but it’s close, as there are lots of fans from both fanbases on either side. South Florida? There are Miami fans in the area, sure, but OU at Dolphins stadium or Ohio State at the Superdome put either of those teams knee-deep in Florida or LSU fans, not on equal footing. That’s not even close.

by burntorangehorn on Dec 31, 2009 12:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Fans at the actual game aren't the only advantage of HFA

There’s game preparation, familiarity, routine, travel, and other such factors to consider.

by burntorangehorn on Dec 31, 2009 1:09 PM CST up reply actions  

You have a good point

but couldn’t it work the other way, as well? When Miami plays at Dolphins Stadium, or UCLA in the Rose Bowl, could it be that the magnitude of the occasion is harder to grasp, as it seems so routine? Texas must have been fired up like crazy coming onto the field of the Rose Bowl.

by BrooklynHorn on Jan 1, 2010 10:08 PM CST up reply actions  

I think knowing the territory is a bigger issue

That’s why the defender against invasion is considered to have the advantage: he is infinitely more familiar with the terrain, and has established supply lines. It’s not a perfect analogy, but familiarity and routine are both big advantages.

by burntorangehorn on Jan 2, 2010 10:54 AM CST up reply actions  

I think this persecution complex that a lot of UT fans has is pointless.

Thank you.

by Hopkins Horn on Dec 31, 2009 12:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Isn't it obvious

Everyone has a persecution complex. Go to any fan website in any sport.

Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.

by Caradoc on Dec 31, 2009 3:43 PM CST up reply actions  

This is not a persecution complex. ESPN does not give the BIG 12 credit for talented players and teams. Yes, the conference was down this year, but they need to give credit were credit is due. Not too much to ask…

by dimecoverage on Dec 31, 2009 2:08 PM CST up reply actions  

We’ll get the credit we’re due if we win. If we lose (especially if we lose badly), we weren’t due the credit. I don’t really see what the issue here is.

ESPN is financially invested in the SEC. Expecting them to be impartial is irrational.

Now, if we win and ESPN is still pimping Bama/UF/whomever from the SEC as the better team, then we’ll have something to complain about.

by hodad on Dec 31, 2009 3:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Sail away? I was looking for a pirate song?

I thought he would have gone quietly if asked to walk the plank. arrgh.

by Ohio Horn on Dec 31, 2009 4:00 PM CST reply actions  

I couldn’t find a decent pirate song on Youtube. If anyone has one, let me know. I’m sure we will be hearing more about Leach in the future. He isn’t leaving Lubbock quietly.

by dimecoverage on Dec 31, 2009 4:23 PM CST up reply actions  

Jimmy Buffett

Pirate looks at 40

"I live in the tower with Coach Brown." -Bevo

by run Bevo run on Dec 31, 2009 5:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Pirates of the Caribbean Theme Song
Drunken Sailor
Fifteen Men (and a Bottle of Rum)

by Silentjay on Dec 31, 2009 7:07 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd been thinking something from Pirates of Penzance

Maybe “Oh, better far to live and die, I am a pirate king!”?

by burntorangehorn on Jan 1, 2010 12:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Someone Noticed The Nebraska Game

odds have shifted and the Horns are now just a 3 1/2 point underdog.

by TCB Orange Dino on Dec 31, 2009 11:16 PM CST reply actions  

Question for b-ball fans..

I’ve never gone to a b-ball game before at the Drum, tomorrow’s my first opportunity.
What are the chances my family and I can walk up and buy tickets at the box office?
Sure would hate to buy them online (with the extra charges per ticket) if there’s a good shot the game won’t be sold out and i can buy them at the gate…

by Heart of a Muschampion on Jan 1, 2010 8:00 PM CST reply actions  

I would say...

Guaranteed to be able to buy tickets. Speaking of which, the cheap seats are going for $3.

"I live in the tower with Coach Brown." -Bevo

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