Here is my advice.....
First off before I get into this post, I am going to tell all Longhorn fans that are coming on here and bad mouthing the team from last night and saying that we are going to get rolled by 'Bama. You can cut that shit out and go join either the A&M or Oklahoma blogs. I expect that from them, but from our own fans, you are obviously not real fans unless everything is going perfect and Texas wins everything. Yeah I said it and if you have a problem with it you can kiss my ass because I sick of seeing people doing that crap on here. I enjoy coming on here and have now for the last few years, but the negativity of people talking crap about their own team when things are not all great on here is beyond old.
Now why I started this post in this first place. People you better get use to the Longhorn bashing for the next 30 days (once again it should not be from OUR FANS) from the media. Texas' game last night was not pretty and saying that is being nice, but some how our Horns pulled it out and earned their spot in the MNC (boy MNC this year going to be a huge understatement). Are TCU and Cincy just as deserving? Yes, they both are. I honestly feel bad for TCU since I grew up about 15 minutes from the TCU campus and have had many friends attend and graduate from the school. I have always been a fan of TCU and rooted for them (except when they played UT back in '07 of course, I will always pick Texas over TCU).
Now what I expect from a few people on here for the next month is to go trolling around on the web and find somebody bad mouthing Texas, post it on here, and bitch about it. Why? We know they are going to bad mouth the Longhorns, hell somebody is always bad mouthing somebody, who cares? Let it go, here is the best advice I can give you. Do not go looking for it. Because if you do all you are going to do is get pissed. If someone starts talking crap about Texas on t.v. just change the damn channel it is that easy. Just do not listen to it, I have a very good system of not listening to all that crap. I stay on all Texas websites, I obviously get on BON, Barking Carnival absolutely makes me laugh my ass off, and Texassports.com gives all good updates on all Texas sports. The only sport website I go to that is not Texas is ESPN.com and that is purely for scores and updates that have nothing to do with college sports.
So the point of all that rambling I just went through is easy, if you do not want to get pissed from all the outside Longhorn bashing, just change the channel and do not go looking for it on the computer and if any of you Longhorn fans wanna come on here and bash the Horns, take that crap someplace else because us that are real fans and have followed this team in good times and bad do not want to here it.
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Didn't realize you were my dad
If I choose to question and second-guess my team’s choices then I can fucking well do that. But it sure as hell doesn’t make me a bad fan or a fair-weather fan or whatever you want to call it. I don’t think the team played very well last night. I don’t think the coaches did a very good job preparing them. Nebraska did a great job, but I expected a better showing from our offense and special teams. You can vent all you want about me and anyone else, but by the same token I can vent about my team and I don’t need someone telling me how to be a fan.
Questioning and second guessing are one thing
but saying shit about your team is another. I watched the same game as you last night and you don’t think I was not frustrated and pissed off with the performance, but I am not going to go around and say shit like “we are going to get our asses rolled by Alabama”, or my favorite is “Colt is not going to win the Heisman because of one interception” because of talking like that is why I do not participate in the open threads anymore. I am not singling out one person, but I can guarantee you that I could go through last nights open thread and see Longhorn fans saying this team sucks and they do not deserve to play in the MNC, i guess people forget bad games happen.
The next up and coming Longhorns QB!
by HornsRiverine on Dec 6, 2009 9:52 AM CST up reply actions
It's called venting
People say stuff in the heat of the moment. I’ll bet their opinions are tempered this morning somewhat, but the truth is, after watching Bama roll the gators, and seeing the Horns scrape by Nebraska with some luck, it’s not a far leap to think we’re in trouble next month. They will regroup and I think it can be a great game, but jeez, let people get it off their chest. If anywhere, here is the best place for fans to do it.
I will agree with you on that
The next up and coming Longhorns QB!
by HornsRiverine on Dec 6, 2009 10:12 AM CST up reply actions
I agree
Although the last two games may not have played out the way that we all would have liked them to, Texas still won both of them, and are on the way to the Big Game. In searching for a silver lining in the mediocre performances, I think that Texas should have no problem focusing and working hard over the next month. Should be no big heads. And, I am looking forward to some great UT football in the MNC.
For the next month
I’ll officially be living behind enemy lines (think Berlin, circa 1939). I’ll have to carefully keep my emotions in check whenever I go to the:
Grocery Store
Post Office
Gas Station
Department Store
Office
Church!
Can’t avoid all that.
Bottom line is, I finally got what I’ve been wanting for 13-14 months, and wouldn’t want it any other way!
Friends may come and go, but enemies accumulate.
- Thomas Jones
Texas
has a month to prepare for Alabama. Nebraska gave them a good look as to what Alabama will be like in a month. Texas knows what they did didn’t work, so they will do something different next game. Suh will not be on Alabama, and Cody isn’t near as good as Suh. Texas will be just fine.
I definitely agree with you about Cody
The next up and coming Longhorns QB!
by HornsRiverine on Dec 6, 2009 11:28 AM CST up reply actions
I totally disagree
One of the things I like best about this site is its objectiveness (or at least an attempt at objectiveness) when it comes to analyzing the strengths and weaknesses of the team. That’s what sets it apart from the Aggie and Sooner sites. I think there is some truth in the negative publicity. Our offense stank up the joint last night. Suh is a freak, but Alabama has a better defense overall and nothing I saw last night makes me feel good about our offense playing against them. If I’m talking to a TCU or Cincy or Boise St. fan, the best reason I can give for us going to the MNC instead of them is ’We’re Texas.’ As a college football fan, it’s not the most satisfying outcome. As a Texas fan, I’ll take it. Do I feel bad that Texas is going to the MNC (assuming we don’t get screwed somehow) – no. However, I’m not going to immediately discount any argument that we’re the only team that was deserving and avoid anything that suggests otherwise.
You can't argue out of both sides of your pie hole.
Like, on the one hand “our offense stank up the joint.” Then on the other hand, “Suh is a freak.” Which is it? If you are going to bring, um, objectiveness then pick a point and argue it. Was the offense stinky because of Suh? Or were they stinky due to poor performance?
Time to fish or cut homer bait as I agree with Riverine up top. Let’s discuss with positive reinforcing viewpoints. Let’s not give the other side more fuel for their no-horn fire.
"We don't freestyle Texas Fight, big boy." - Coach Brown
What was I thinking?
I’m mean, there’s no way we could have played the best defensive player in the country AND our offense stank. We all know that the world is black and white.
Do you want this to turn into another homer site?
I take pride in not being delusional or irrational about my team. Its about holding the team to a standard of excellence – especially since the Mizzou and Oklahoma State games showed just how good this team can be. This a very good football team, but right now, I don’t feel good about the matchup with Alabama. Are we just supposed to shut up and not say this? Maybe you do, but I actually feel more like there are a whole lot of people trying to convince themselves that Nebraska and A&M are unstoppable juggernauts and we should be happy just to have won. I don’t believe that, and neither should any objective college football fan.
I think some people are missing my point
I know Texas’ offense played horrible last night, I will be the first to admit it to you, I know Alabama as a whole is a better defensive unit, What I am trying to say is that you can criticize and second guess your team with out all the negativity. I second guess Greg Davis all the time, I will be the first to tell you that he really needs to retire, I know Suh is a freak, but numerous times last night when they would show replays the offensive also had a really crappy effort, I honestly believe that was more than just bad play, I honestly say that the O line was straight up lazy last night. Do I think they can push Alabama’s front line off the ball, yes because I saw them do it to Oklahoma in the second half. But I am not going on the thread going our O line sucks they need to be replaced by the second team and blah, blah, blah. Bad games happen and people need to learn to take in the bad with the good. Not just start spitting out random nonsense because something goes wrong.
The next up and coming Longhorns QB!
by HornsRiverine on Dec 6, 2009 11:24 AM CST up reply actions
OK ...
I don’t participate in the game threads – and I certainly think that kind of negativity is just stupid. I just got my hackles up a bit from people arguing that those unhappy with Texas’ performance should just shut up and enjoy it. I saw one poster being repeatedly called a TCU troll simply for pointing out that Texas’ offense wasn’t performing well. That’s insanity.
One particular poster last night...
Drove me nuts with statements like “We should putt GG in to replace McCoy, he couldn’t do any worse”. Really? That is so idiotic I could not believe it, and this person kept on doing it.
So I get HornsRiverine’s point. Questioning is one thing, and being afraid of losing is one thing, making bomabastically oriented stupid and insulting statements is quite another.
Play like you mean it...
au contraire (sic)
Very happy to have won and be 13-0. How many times has that happened in your lifetime? Rack me for being a homer. Not sure what an “objective college football fan” is, frankly. I’m sure there are other places that welcome those types of fans.
"We don't freestyle Texas Fight, big boy." - Coach Brown
Good god, man ...
We’re all Texas fans here. What, do you want to purge me now? I like looking at X’ss and O’s, I like backing up my opinions with facts, and I like to be realistic while also hoping for the best. I mocked Aggie fans for the kind of delusion TX fans are showing right now.
Delusion. Delusion?
You have got to be kidding me. No one is delusional here. All of us know exactly how to count. 1-2-3-4-5-OU-7-8-9-10-11-12-13. Check.
And no one is asking you leave. Just providing “my” input. Appreciate your apprehension about our team’s chances but I will take a 17 game winning streak, which coincidentally leads the nation, into the MNC game. We’ve got the horses. We’ve got the time to heal. And we will be playing from behind from now until the 4th quarter on January 7. In other words we’ve got ’Bama right where we want them.
So those facts are indisputable. And those facts will win us a championship. I believe. Do you?
"We don't freestyle Texas Fight, big boy." - Coach Brown
Ditto to HornsRiverine and let's be realistic:
We can still love our Horns and be critical at the same time. For instance, compare Bama’s performance with UT’s. Your conclusions, if realistic, would not bode well for the Horns’ chances next month. However, four years ago UT was an underdog to the “greatest college team of all time” and pulled off an upset.
The main things that concern me is the offensive(NU) and defensive(aggies) game plans that have recently failed misserably. The running game can’t continue focus exclusively to running “latterly” trying to find a hole. You have to run quick openers against strong defenses like NU and Bama, which is why the most success we had was with the shovel passes (2? only?) last night. The defense mostly plays “re-actionary”, instead of attacking (see NU, Bama) which explains the lapses against aggies and NU’s final drive.
If Texas is to win in Pasedena, the biggest improvement has to come from the coaching.
The good news is: we have the talent, so it CAN be done!
GO HORNS GO!
Tsip
Last night at game and then Bama-Texas:
First, leaving the game last night I noted many Texas fans kind of in a "what just happened’ stupor. Instead of an immediate celebration with the FG, there was instead a collective exhale of relief and then the celebration started. Second, this morning feels much better when I read in the paper and saw on tv that we DID win the game and are 13-0. As a long time Texas-Ex, I never take for granted a season like this – it is a rarity for any college team and I am so proud of this team to find a way to have won the game last night.
Finally – Bama-Texas
1. Neutral field
2. One month to prepare
Either team can win this game and I would not be shocked either way. Not worried at all about the D. What I hope we do is have Mack talk with GD and force him open the game up and stop the conservative play calling. We must throw the ball down field to beat Bama. Last night was some of the most peculiar play calling by GD – Run on first down, 2nd and 8, run on 2nd down – third and 5. Must pass and NU blitzes and we throw sideways for a small gain or loss and punt. Mind boggling.
However, I will be in Pasadena cheering on the "Horns and remembering a special season no matter the outcome.
TEXAS FIGHT………………………..
Some good points made by HornsRiverine
Let’s keep dissecting our strengths and weaknesses while being honest with ourselves. But let us not become fans of entitlement, showing disgust and anger toward our own team when things don’t go our way. That’s not to say we shouldn’t have high expectations. Keep that bar high and continue to cheer your team on.
I heard from friends at the game and noticed it on TV: when we were down, it was a little too quiet for my taste and saw a lot of orange sitting on their asses. I don’t expect our fans (myself included) to wallow in our sorrows after mistakes and wait til something good happens to cheer again. We need more “Texas Fight!” and the old “Come early, be loud, stay late, wear orange”.
by Infield Elephant on Dec 6, 2009 1:41 PM CST reply actions
Count me among those
who think this post is ridiculous, unnecessary, and frankly just shallow.
Being overtly positive about everything you encounter doesn’t make you a better person, just inconsiderate and thoughtless. Many of us view this board as a place to discuss the politics and philosophy of UT athletics, which is impossible if we all agree to relegate all matters to an expression of Burnt-Orange sunshine and pixie dust. Without criticism, there’d be nothing to discuss. I don’t really want to read a site full of exclamations of how great it is to be a Longhorn (we all know how great it is to be a Longhorn) so I’d prefer we dispense with the self-congratulatory rhetoric and move on to critical analysis, which by definition is not all roses and happiness, and incidentally, is far more stimulating.
Its so ironic how superior the positivists on this site consider themselves, when, from a practical and societal standpoint, their outlook is perhaps the most superficial and most dangerous.
Thanks Dr Phil!
Are you available to replace Oprah??? Just kidding… but doubt opens the door to failure!
Do you realize how hypocritical this statement is?
Regardless of my opinion on this post, which mirror yours, although not to the hyperbolic level you took it, I have to take issue with this comment. You accuse the poster of being inconsiderate and thoughtless, but then end with insults. Maybe you should look in the mirror sometimes.
Hypocritical how?
My last line is not an insult. An insult is a direct attack in an effort to hurt someone. I genuinely (whether you believe it or not) was making an observation.
I dont believe that someone as obviously smart as you are
has an emotional IQ so low that you can not see that is an insult.
Check
Your are officially in the “will always be critical of anything positive that is the result of a successful football campaign” column. Got it.
Just so you know, the many of us in the other column don’t give a rat’s ass about the “politics and philosophy of UT athletics”. We just care about winning and discussing how we are going to get more of that. If I read HR’s post correctly, this is where he is coming from.
We’ll just agree that this is an open board where we can often agree and equally often agree to disagree. Cool?
"We don't freestyle Texas Fight, big boy." - Coach Brown
Meant as reply to Mr. BrooklynHorn's post above....
"We don't freestyle Texas Fight, big boy." - Coach Brown
Actually, whether you want to admit it or not
you do care about those things, as I’m sure even a cursory glance at your recent posts will reveal those things discussed in some manifestation, and probably in every instance. That’s really the only thing this site is for. If not the politics and philosophy (however pretentious you may think that language is – I suppose I could dumb it down to “ongoings”) of UT athletics, then what?
The problem with posts like HR’s is that what he really intends to do is assert his allegiance to a certain outlook – “look at me, I’m a good person, my parents taught me well and gave me good values…” and more importantly, he wants to solicit a list of responses including:
Amen, brother!
Right on!
You tell ’em!
And maybe, just maybe, he’ll get this post rec’d to the top of the fanpost sidebar, the ultimate acceptance by his peer group, and a total affirmation of his allegiance to this good-natured value system.
The motives behind posts like this always appear to me transparent and self-centered, and frankly, whenever I see one, I’m embarrassed for the person who posted it. That may sound harsh, but I’m really tired of people attempting to prohibit discourse because they fear it may crush their fragile world view.
If you want to muster up a gathering of “Hook ’em Horns!” then go do it on a lesser site. BON is one of the few sports cites for thinking people.
As a "positivist" . . .
. . . what galls me is not unwarranted criticism. It’s the over-the-top hyperbole from supposed fans which can be infuriating.
For example, here is a post of yours from the game thread last night:
Its good to see Greg Davis watched lots of film on Nebraska and established some tactics to counteract their tendencies. You know, because he’s such a good offensive coordinator and all.
Yes, it’s critical, but it’s (a) coherent and well-written, (b) amusing, © pointing out a specific problem with Davis rather than a rudimentary “he sucks,” and (d) absent of use of the word “cunt.”
So all is good. Ecellent comment.
Unlike this gem from the same game thread:
greg davis you fucking cunt
Is that what you mean when you say criticism demonstrates that “BON is one of the few sports cites for thinking people”?
YES!! Right On!!!! Awesome point!!!
You/ve got it Hopkins Horn!!! THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT!!!!!
I saw so much of that type of stuff on the open thread it made me sick, and to go along with the feeling in the pit of my stomach about the way the game was going in general, it became too much last night.
Play like you mean it...
If I believed the intent of the OP was to police civility and vulgarity
then I would agree with you completely (in fact, I strongly dislike vulgarity), and I would not have posted at all.
But the post doesn’t read that way. I interpret the post as basically saying that all you naysayers can take your bad attitude and go live in Oklahoma. Love it or leave it…that kind of thing.
by BrooklynHorn on Dec 6, 2009 10:08 PM CST up reply actions
Do keep in mind that . . .
. . . the venn diagram with one circle for “uncivil and vulgar posts” and another circle for “criticisms of UT” would have considerable overlap.
by Hopkins Horn on Dec 6, 2009 10:54 PM CST up reply actions
Are you serious?
I mean really serious, I have no clue as to what you are even talking about. Are you so smart that you actually are stupid and completely missed my point at what I am getting at. Thank you Hopkins Horn for posting an example of my point, that is as black and white you can get with it.
As for my “fragile world view” I have spent a good portion of the last four years of my life in Iraq, you want to see “fragile” spend some time watching people getting killed and blown up and then come talk to me about a “fragile world view.”
The next up and coming Longhorns QB!
by HornsRiverine on Dec 6, 2009 8:05 PM CST up reply actions
This last response is to BrooklynHorn
The next up and coming Longhorns QB!
by HornsRiverine on Dec 6, 2009 8:06 PM CST up reply actions
See my response to Hopkins Horn above
and regardless of our disagreement, I thank you for your service.
by BrooklynHorn on Dec 6, 2009 10:11 PM CST up reply actions
bleeding burnt orange
I was bleeding burnt orange before 99% of y’all were born. (Class of ‘69) When I die, I’ll decompose into burnt orange dust.
I don’t get too upset with the shallow, hyperbolic, critical vents I sometimes see here because there are always others that break down the games as well as I have seen outside a team meeting with the coaches.
In the game against Nebraska there was plenty to criticize in the offensive effort.
What I found unacceptable this year was the O Line getting phisically whipped. When guys who are supposed to be among the best in Texas, and who go about 6’5" and 310 pounds get their asses whipped, then I figure they have an attitude problem.
When I see recievers dropping passes or letting DB’s take the ball away from them, then I figure they are lacking in effort—that’s unacceptable by my way of thinking.
I hate to see Texas lose. But if they show an aggressive attitude and leave it all on the field, then I can live with a better opponent winning the game. That’s not what happened in the game with Nebraska.
Also, if the Heisman means anything, Colt should still get it. Without him, the offense might not have scored a touchdown against most Big 12 teams…and, he should have gotten it last year. (And Vince should have gotten it in ’05)
1969 was....
A great year to be a Horns fan. James Street and Steve Wooster and Jim Bertlesen. I actually have alot of those guys autographs, I was 7 when we beat Arkansas and Notre Dame. I agree completely with your analysis of the game MesquiteHorn. There was a lack of effort and a faiilure of scheming and/or exectuion. Your comments about Colt and Vince are correct as well.
Play like you mean it...

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