'Bama complacency - complete with Herbie snap
by Bobster on Dec 6, 2009 10:15 PM CST
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Props to Kirk Herbstreit (for once). On the ESPN BCS selection show, debating the national title game and the potential for 'Bama complacency , Lou Holtz mindlessly offered, "Nick Saban will get his team ready." To which Herbie replied, "Like he did for Utah last year?"
Seriously, though - given the mighty 'Bama collapse against Utah last year - I can't wait for the media onslaught. They don't have Tebow to worship, so they'll have to fixate on somebody. I hope they spend the next month telling 'Bama how great they are and all they have to do is walk on the field and it's over.
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Saban/Kelly
I do have to say that the two interviews with Saban and Kelly were the only coach interviews I’ve seen that weren’t completely coach speak. Kelly actually said that he watched the Nebraska game and they got the National Championship teams completely right. Saban wouldn’t even say that Mark Ingram deserved the Heisman. He said as a coach, he didn’t have enough time to watch other teams to offer an opinion (which, on a side note is the main reason I HATE the coaches poll). He did follow it up saying that Ingram has done more for the team than any previous player he’s had but he wouldn’t say he deserved the Heisman regardless of the amount of prompting from the talking heads.
I want to hate Nick Saban but I can't
Strange feelings as this Bama team is not the villainous vomit-fest that was 2005 USC. I want to win, but I won’t puke in my mouth if Bama gets the crown.
by BrooklynHorn on Dec 6, 2009 10:36 PM CST up reply actions
I hate the SEC-love fest enough
to hate all asociated with it. So Saban’s in there too.
"A lot of people look for the easy way to do anything, in swimming there is no easy way." - Eddie Reese
Yeah, and Saban was very likeable in his ESPN appearance as well
For me, though, a lot of the fun over the next month will be having the rest of my family jump on oh so grudgingly to the Texas bandwagon, as they all went to LSU and share that inexplicable hatred that’s spread throughout their fanbase of a head coach who won them their first MNC in 40+ years. My mom sent me a text (which is funny in and of itself) last night of “Nick Satan can go to --”
This will be fun.
by Hopkins Horn on Dec 6, 2009 10:44 PM CST up reply actions
Plus, I'm partial to Bama's power running philosophy
I’m really glad we’re not going up against another spread offense. At least there will be two different styles on the field.
by BrooklynHorn on Dec 6, 2009 10:53 PM CST up reply actions
2 things to dislike about Saben
1. He gave Les Miles a national championship
2. He fired Major.
Other than that he seems to be a stand up guy.
You're going to hate him for driving Major back to Austin?
But yes, I have heard he’s a terrible boss.
by BrooklynHorn on Dec 6, 2009 10:55 PM CST up reply actions
Not really
Just trying to come up with something.
I still blame him for putting Les Miles in the history books though.
I'll agree with the Les Miles comment
I’m glad that whatever happened to bring Major back to Austin happened, but the truth of the matter was that he was a very green coordinator for a program like Bama. You can’t blame Saban for being a CEO and seeing that there was a close eye on the calls.
Lots of great men are dicks to work for…
"Lots of great men are dicks to work for"
I had the same thought. I’m sure everyone on Winston Churchill’s staff thought he was a total piece of garbage.
I agree
I thought what he’d done over the past years to various teams seemed deplorable (leaving LSU after promising not to, etc.), but he certainly seems to have brought the luster of humble pride (oxymoron?) back to Bama. It’s always good for CFB when the traditional powers are intact and more importantly have a respectable program. So far it appears this is the case for the Crimson Tide. I respect this team 50x more than the universe’s greatest team ever from 2005, and the immaculately conceived second coming from 2009. I cannot wait to see this game.
Bama. Texas. Over 1600 wins between them. 16 national championships. Solid programs.
I can’t wait.
Kelly's comments were entirely coachspeak
He voted Cincy #1 and then said they got the national championship game right. Whatever dude.
So, even as a Bama fan...
That comment from Herbstreit was pretty effing funny.
That said, it’s two different situations. Last year’s sugar bowl team was coming off of a 12-0 regular season, took a lead into the 4th quarter against a juggernaut Florida team…only to see it all slip away. They were playing the Sugar Bowl on a pretty huge emotional letdown. These are 18-22 year old kids, after all.
I am NOT excusing it…there is nothing that makes losing acceptable. But I believe we learned from that experience, and have built a stronger program because of it. We were supposed to be weak this year after losing an all-american offensive line and a 3 year starter at QB, but we’ve somehow been a consistently better team this year despite all of that.
We will be ready to play. So will the Longhorns. Both teams will be riding emotional highs, supported by rabid fanbases, and bearing the standards of two of the greatest college football programs ever. I couldn’t be more excited!
"You have to create six seconds of hell, every time the ball is snapped..."
-Nick Saban
oh...
And for what it’s worth…Major Applewhite still gets a lot of love here in Alabama. He’s one of the more popular assistants we’ve ever had, and we all respected the hell out of him when he was playing.
"You have to create six seconds of hell, every time the ball is snapped..."
-Nick Saban
by KongAtTheGates on Dec 6, 2009 11:25 PM CST up reply actions
last year's losses
they seem to be a driving factor for both alabama and texas this year. and because of those experiences i don’t think either team will become complacent
If all the Bama fans/posters are like you
You are all welcome here with open arms. Every comment I’ve seen from obvious Bama fans so far have been completely respectable. I look forward to the game (and maybe just a little trash talk).
As to your point about Bama last year, I go both ways on that. I agree that last years team felt down, but there was a month break. That should have been plenty of time to recollect and put it to Utah. Saban is a good coach, so he should have been able to accomplish this. Really don’t know what to think about that.
Hopefully we can all maintain a healthy (but still competitive) attitude
I think i speak for most at RBR, we dont like Bama trolls just as much as we dislike other team trolls! (Except maybe those from UT (Tennessee))
by tidefanstuckatlsu on Dec 7, 2009 10:26 AM CST up reply actions
Saban saying exactly what he
should be saying during the interview. At first I was like, “Wow, he respects us.” Then I realized that may or may not be true. He came on ESPN to start the process of getting his kids psychologically ready for the game. By saying those things, whether he believes them or not, shows what an intelligent coach he is. Of course, no matter how much he spins it, the media will still make them out to be King Kong and Texas poor little Fay Wray, and that’s the way I prefer it, really.
"All the white meat is gone. There's nothin' but necks on the platter." Darrell K. Royal
When Kirk said that (about Utah) it seemed like everybody had some objection to it
Listen to them: the room goes up in an uproar. But why? It seemed like a perfect response if you ask me. A genuine refutation to Lou’s comment. Obviously the context is different (shot confidence vs. overconfidence), but it requires the same skill set for the coach: getting your team to play at a certain level when their emotions would normally affect it. Yet all the guys seemed to think that it was a completely unfair analogy.
If you're so sure of what it ain't, how about telling us what it am!
I'm old school, really looking forward to the game
between two traditional football teams. And I agree – I don’t have the reflux action toward ’Bama that I did towards USC. They at least give the appearance of respecting the game and their opponents.
Side note – ‘Bama and Texas were vying for my favors when I graduated high school. I’m sure Tuscaloosa is nice, but all it took was a visit to Austin.
Not to discredit Bama
with any complacency going into last year’s Sugar Bowl, but many forget about the Horns’ accomplishments in the Fiesta Bowl. We could have hung our heads going into that game against Ohio State after the whole tie-breaker thing, but it turned out to be one of the best bowl games I’ve seen.
by Infield Elephant on Dec 7, 2009 11:16 AM CST reply actions
But one could argue . . .
. . . that we underperformed expectations as well, despite how good the game turned out to be in the end. Most believed that we would win that game much more convincingly.
Texas Tech — yet another team with its national championship dreams crushed late in the year — also failed to show up for its bowl game.
by Hopkins Horn on Dec 7, 2009 11:45 AM CST up reply actions
True
I’m just happy we didn’t show up hungover like UA or TTU seemed to do for theirs. That was a fun game.
by Infield Elephant on Dec 7, 2009 11:54 AM CST up reply actions
Favorite Texas-Alabama Bowl Game
I have to go back some but my favorite Texas-Alabama bowl game was 1963 in the Orange Bowl when a Tommy Nobis-led Texas team took out Bear Byrant and Broadway Joe Namath! Hoping this game is similar to that one-gotta keep our record vs Alabama clean!
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