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We'll start live at 4:45 CDT. Bracket pairings will be announced live on CBS at 5:00 p.m.  Reader comments go in their usual spot below the post.

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We're not in the MidWest

so we don’t have to deal with Louisville, Michigan St. or USC in the 1st round

by goingforthecorner on Mar 15, 2009 5:12 PM CDT reply actions  

Since the liveblog

seems to be a masturbatory session, I guess we can chat down here.

by DoubleB on Mar 15, 2009 5:16 PM CDT reply actions  

Yep

I wonder if they can turn off user entries. It just looks so tempting.

by JohnsonUT on Mar 15, 2009 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

If I'm a mid-major

seeing Arizona in the tournament has to be disheartening. Creighton and St. Mary’s are done.

by DoubleB on Mar 15, 2009 5:16 PM CDT reply actions  

A&M as a 9

I think would make us look good as a 7. Any shot at a 6?

by DoubleB on Mar 15, 2009 5:19 PM CDT reply actions  

No no!

Memphis #2 in the West. I don’t want us here as a 7 seed.

by goingforthecorner on Mar 15, 2009 5:19 PM CDT reply actions  

Yes!

We’ve caught another break. No Memphis to deal with.

by goingforthecorner on Mar 15, 2009 5:20 PM CDT reply actions  

I hope AW is right

lets get #2 Duke with us as the 7 seed.

by goingforthecorner on Mar 15, 2009 5:21 PM CDT reply actions  

If we're a 7

I think that’s who we HAVE to get. Duke can’t be a #2 with UNC and we can’t be a #7 with a (projected) #2 Oklahoma.

by DoubleB on Mar 15, 2009 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Only thing about Duke I'm concerned with

is they have like 5 bombers from three. We’ve had troubles this year with guards going off on us from the perimeter. Our big boys down low have to dominate. Abrams has to try to neutralize those guards by making threes of his own.

by goingforthecorner on Mar 15, 2009 5:23 PM CDT reply actions  

We'll know soon

This is the bracket we have to be in to be a 7 seed

by DoubleB on Mar 15, 2009 5:26 PM CDT reply actions  

Phew...

I saw an orange at #8 playing Pitt. Turns out it was OSU.

by goingforthecorner on Mar 15, 2009 5:26 PM CDT reply actions  

Yep you called it

We’re playing Minny and then probably Duke in the East region

by goingforthecorner on Mar 15, 2009 5:27 PM CDT reply actions  

fffffffffffffffffffffff

Duke is a great 2nd round draw… but im worried about Minnesota

They got some hot shooters, but no real big men

Minnesota basically equals Baylor… same team

by greenspointexas on Mar 15, 2009 5:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Who are Duke's big men?

Zoubek and Singler? Gotta like Dex’s adv inside

by whodat on Mar 15, 2009 5:31 PM CDT reply actions  

nah, minnesota has no big men

neither does duke

but the gophers can shoot the j and the 3 ball better than 90% of the team inthe big 12

by greenspointexas on Mar 15, 2009 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

No big men at U of M???

We have Ralph Sampson III and Colton Iverson. Sampson is one of the best freshman in the conference and Iverson is a 7’0 who has started most games.

by rencito on Mar 15, 2009 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like us over Minn. Duke is beatable this year. Nova in the Sweet Sixteen would be a heck of a game. It’s a tough road but it is not impossible.

by 71grad on Mar 15, 2009 5:32 PM CDT reply actions  

the sec is full of mediocre teams this year in b ball

miss state won the tourney… how many ranked teams does the sec have?

by greenspointexas on Mar 15, 2009 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well,

It didn’t earn it. Not that surprising, really.

by Year2 on Mar 15, 2009 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not worried about Minnesota

They only have 2 players that shoot 35% or better from three. Nobody on their team averages more than 5 rebounds.

They have a 6’11" freshman C named Ralph Sampson III. Could it be!? Son of Ralph Sampson, drafted by the Houston Rockets, and a member of the twin towers with Hakeem “The Dream” Olajuwon?

http://kenpom.com/team.php?y=2009&team=Minnesota

88th in adjusted offensive efficiency, 20th in adjusted defensive efficiency.

by goingforthecorner on Mar 15, 2009 5:37 PM CDT reply actions  

The mid majors

took it in their bunghole. Maybe deservedly in many cases, but really . . Arizona. Apparently getting hot for 7 games in early February is all you need.

by DoubleB on Mar 15, 2009 5:38 PM CDT reply actions  

haha +1

how in heck do teams like SFA, American university, george washington, cornell even get into the NCAA tourney….. who the hell have they even played? this is why i like college football better than College B Ball… i mean come on…… SFA getting into the tourney is like Texas State getting a nod for the Capitol 1 bowl……

by greenspointexas on Mar 15, 2009 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

OK now that is a major reach

the College bball system is infinitely better than the BCS.

by goingforthecorner on Mar 15, 2009 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

agree with that, but

little teams playin the likes of mich state, duke, OU, etc is funny to me

by greenspointexas on Mar 15, 2009 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

basketball has natural advantage since its more tournament friendly..

you know this format is not friendly to football

COACH BOOM BABY!!

by hookemkp on Mar 15, 2009 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

SFA has a chance?

im just saying that its kinda prepostorous to have team like that in the NCAA from little schools who havent played anyone all year

people always clamor about the mid majors, but the only team i can remember in the last 20 years that made any noise in the tourney is George Mason….

its seriously like putting TA&M CC in the bowl mix

by greenspointexas on Mar 15, 2009 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Memphis?

Gonzaga, Valpo, Temple, GW, Saint Joe’s, Utah, UNLV?

by Wells on Mar 15, 2009 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Minnesota Similar to Texas

I’ve not caught any of them this year, but looking at the Gopher’s schedule they’ve had a very similar season to the Horns. They started out strong, impressive win over Louisville but since mid January they’ve been on again off again, very inconsistent. Only difference down the stretch was Texas pulled off the big win over OU; Minnesota has no real big win since early season.

So, that’s the season trend, but what do you know about the matchups, styles of play, coaching history between Barnes & Tubby, personnel, etc.?

by RMHorn on Mar 15, 2009 5:40 PM CDT reply actions  

That win was a long time ago

It’s virtually irrelevant now—although it helped get them in. Louisville would torch them today.

by DoubleB on Mar 15, 2009 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Minn v. K St/Neb/Bay?

In UT’s three conference losses to teams not in the NCAA tournament but good enough for the NIT we knew Texas was better but we lost anyway. Minnesota seems to be that same kind of problem opponent who could leave us severely disappointed on Thursday. Texas has beaten this kind of team more than they’ve lost to them this season, but it’s a toss-up in my mind based on the season.

What I don’t know is if this is the kind of team that has tendencies, styles, that favor UT enough for me not to be all that concerned, or if this really could be a one and done year.

by RMHorn on Mar 15, 2009 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you look at our players individually...we definitely are better than Minnesota

As a team we are a bit shady…..We are neither peripheral-oriented team or strong inside team….we are somewhere in the middle and can’t really call us a “balanced team” probably because we dont play consistent enough

COACH BOOM BABY!!

by hookemkp on Mar 15, 2009 5:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Given all the 10 seeds

Michigan, USC, Minnesota, and Maryland, I think Minnesota’s the best match up for Texas.

Avoiding Michigan and their 1-3-1 stuff and USC’s athleticsm was key.

by DoubleB on Mar 15, 2009 5:46 PM CDT reply actions  

Really?

A final four commercial featuring us? Ouch

by 40AS on Mar 15, 2009 5:47 PM CDT reply actions  

The worst part...

“Texas has no answer for Anthony”

by whodat on Mar 15, 2009 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Melo, Chris Paul, and whoever was in the other version of this commercial are all with Air Jordan and this is their new commercial theme.

by goingforthecorner on Mar 15, 2009 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Blah

That live blog software was a hassle. Not a big fan

--PB--

by Peter Bean on Mar 15, 2009 5:50 PM CDT reply actions  

I feel bad for St. Mary's

this team could’ve done some damage in the tourney with a healthy Patrick Mills.

by goingforthecorner on Mar 15, 2009 5:52 PM CDT reply actions  

"It's about teams"...

…that’s helpful.

Very, very helpful.

by txtwstr7 on Mar 15, 2009 5:53 PM CDT reply actions  

"It's about GROUPS of teams"...

…that was much better.

Except it wasn’t…

by txtwstr7 on Mar 15, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Couldn't agree more

Arizona was 2-9 playing road games. Those wins: Oregon and Oregon State. One of the worst picks I’ve seen in the last 10 years.

by DoubleB on Mar 15, 2009 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

At least

Penn State won on the road. And I didn’t think they should sniff the tournament.

by DoubleB on Mar 15, 2009 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Looking forward to playing you guys.

Whoever said above that we have no big men is wrong. That’s our strength at this point, scoring inside and rebounding. But yes, we can’t shoot at all.

Maroon and Gold Headquarters: The Daily Gopher

by PJS on Mar 15, 2009 5:55 PM CDT reply actions  

Similar teams

We can’t shoot, either

--PB--

by Peter Bean on Mar 15, 2009 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was reading your Selection Sunday gameday thread

looks like you guys are terrified of teams playing zone on your guys. I guess it makes sense looking at your 3pt shooting statistics.

Hopefully Rick Barnes is aware of this. 2-3 zone is a must. Doesn’t look like Minny is a good rebounding team either so a zone won’t hurt us much, not to mention we won’t have to worry about Pittman getting in foul trouble.

by goingforthecorner on Mar 15, 2009 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Minnesota

Started conference play 4-1, finished at 9-9. Lost four of their last six and six of their last eight in the regular season.

Beat Illinois, Wisconsin (twice), and Ohio State in conference play and Louisville way back in December.

--AW--

by awiggo on Mar 15, 2009 5:58 PM CDT reply actions  

minnesota

minnesota plays 10 deep, all averaging quality minutes and scoring. they play great in your face defense, and always have fresh bodies on the court. Minn is top defensive team, half court offense is bad.

don’t underestimate freshman Sampson and Iverson inside. Sampson in particular has been playing very well down the stretch

F damien johnson is best defender in the big ten

G brian westbrook is a scorer, if he gets hot watch out. averaged 40 ppg in high school. if he has a big game, gophers win this.

G hoffarber is a sniper from outside, but very streaky. watch out if he hits a 3 early.

by Dalgar on Mar 15, 2009 5:59 PM CDT reply actions  

Minnesota Defense

Good or a product of horrible Big 10 offenses? You decide.

--AW--

by awiggo on Mar 15, 2009 5:59 PM CDT reply actions  

Probably a little bit of both

Is Minnesota in if they don’t beat Louisville? I don’t think so. The matchups aren’t all world, but this isn’t a very good team.

by DoubleB on Mar 15, 2009 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Minnesota is as Good As

Baylor, Kansas State and Nebraska and those were tough teams for UT this season. This team is not to be underestimated by any stretch, this is a toss-up game in my mind.

by RMHorn on Mar 15, 2009 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

In terms of talent

I disagree, particularly with regards to Baylor. Maybe Nebraska is a decent approximation. Well-coached and plays hard. And certainly Texas can lose. But would you rather play USC?

by DoubleB on Mar 15, 2009 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

The "Rather Play"

kind of went out the door when the team we would have rather played, Baylor, beat KU and that didn’t end up meaning much. The who we could have ended up with ended as soon as our bracket was set. Now it’s a matter of who we have there, and we have a team that is just as dangerous to a one and done appearance in the NCAA’s as Nebraska, Baylor and K State were to UT this season.

Barnes & Co. better be figuring out what friggin’ team they want to show up on Thursday and how to get them there – better than he’s figured out how to manage them this season to date or they’ll be back home on Friday.

by RMHorn on Mar 15, 2009 6:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

The point being

this is the best matchup Texas could have hoped for. We may lose. Hell, we could get blown off the court. But this team doesn’t have as good as basketball players as we do looking across the board. Ultimately, I’d rather be us than them and it isn’t that close in my mind.

by DoubleB on Mar 15, 2009 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

But I’ll only be hurt, not surprised if we’re out in this opening round. Avoiding the Baylor loss could have avoided that uncertainty.

by RMHorn on Mar 15, 2009 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Guess we'll find out

But as a Minnesota alum, I say the former. Minnesota’s a good team, but they’re young and inconsistent on the offensive end.

by sportsnight on Mar 15, 2009 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Time to switch to ESPN

lets see Dick Vitale rant about St. Mary’s being left out

by goingforthecorner on Mar 15, 2009 6:01 PM CDT reply actions  

im gonna call it now

Binghamton get the upset over Duke in a 13 OT thriller where 8 people foul out

by greenspointexas on Mar 15, 2009 6:04 PM CDT reply actions  

Bilas vs. Vitale...

…come on Dick, dont let the big man intimidate you.

by txtwstr7 on Mar 15, 2009 6:04 PM CDT reply actions  

Gopher fan here...

If we shoot well and don’t turn the ball over, you guys are screwed, but I’m pretty sure we haven’t done those both at the same time since mid February. And we’re much, much better than Kansas State and Nebraska.

by hapshaughnessy on Mar 15, 2009 6:05 PM CDT reply actions  

Frankly

if you take away the Louisville win, you are pretty close to Kansas State. A fringe bubble team that wouldn’t even be here.

by DoubleB on Mar 15, 2009 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

W/o Louisville win

Minnesota doesn’t get in. Period. Best win: at Wisconsin, Illinois at home?

--AW--

by awiggo on Mar 15, 2009 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Doug Gottlied...

…has the biggest tie knot that I’ve ever seen.

by txtwstr7 on Mar 15, 2009 6:07 PM CDT reply actions  

No BCS

The arguments are over the 34th and 35th best teams. In football, its the 2nd and 3rd best that we are arguing about. Very, very different.

--AW--

by awiggo on Mar 15, 2009 6:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Colton Iverson

related to Allen Iverson? Abrams really wants to know.

by goingforthecorner on Mar 15, 2009 6:16 PM CDT reply actions  

Appreciate the updates

Sucks being stuck in the victoria, BC airport during the selection show.

Besides St. Mary’s and arizona, were there any other surprises?

by Hookem4life84 on Mar 15, 2009 6:19 PM CDT reply actions  

Not really

Everything else was pretty much expected. Texas got what they wanted pretty much except for location.

by goingforthecorner on Mar 15, 2009 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Shot Blocking

According to Ken Pom’s stats, Minnesota is the top shot blocking team in the country. Freshman Colton Iverson, 6-10, and freshman Ralphy Samson, 7-0, both rank in the top 50 nationally in block percentage.

Texas is the 11th best shot blocking team in the country.

--AW--

by awiggo on Mar 15, 2009 6:21 PM CDT reply actions  

But can they block Pittman?

Dexy weighs about 300 pounds. Both Iverson and Sampson are raw freshman that are about 65-85 pounds lighter than Dex. I think we have the edge.

And despite their height, neither of them are even averaging more than 5 rebounds a game. We have 3 guys that are (James, Johnson, Pittman).

by goingforthecorner on Mar 15, 2009 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

I haven’t seen Minnesota play this year but the stats show that the Gophers played at a decent pace in the non conference and then played incredibly slowly in conference play. Texas could also have an advantage in a quicker paced game. Minnesota also struggles with turnovers.

The depth of Minnesota could be a factor but with the longer timeouts, Texas should be fine as long as we stay out of foul trouble.

--AW--

by awiggo on Mar 15, 2009 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep, foul trouble is the X-factor,

which further encourages zone defense against Minny given their shooting struggles from deep.

Only thing is our defensive rebounding has to get better than what we saw in the Big 12 tournament. That was embarrassing.

by goingforthecorner on Mar 15, 2009 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Besides, the whole block statistic is kind of overrated

blocks are only useful if you get the ball back. Many times people swat shots out of bounds. Sure, they look fancy and are highlight material, but the other team gets the ball back.

by goingforthecorner on Mar 15, 2009 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Haha... Bob Knight wants 128 teams in

that’s a little silly. I guess I could go for getting rid of 64 vs 65 and instead putting in 8 more teams (so 1 seed and 2 seed get BYES), but I think this system is OK. The drama about who gets in and who gets snubbed adds intrigue.

by goingforthecorner on Mar 15, 2009 6:22 PM CDT reply actions  

Why not

just invite all the BCS teams and screw everyone else? The tournament is pretty damn good as it is. I’d argue a few less at-large bids would make it better, but that’s just me.

And really, is the hoops world clamoring for Iowa and Vanderbilt to be in the tournament? Are we really missing anything when borderline NIT teams don’t get in?

by DoubleB on Mar 15, 2009 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah I agree

I guess the gist of Knight’s point is many teams are left out that would still have a ghost’s chance to pull a George Mason. Even a team like Baylor could win a couple of games in the tournament with the right matchups.

by goingforthecorner on Mar 15, 2009 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Aggies

BYU and A&M played last year in an 8/9 matchup. Committee just set the exact same match up this year. Hmmm.

--AW--

by awiggo on Mar 15, 2009 6:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Impressive

commenting considering your skiing in Tahoe by the way.

by DoubleB on Mar 15, 2009 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks

Taking the day off from the mountain. This is one of my favorite sports day of the year.

--AW--

by awiggo on Mar 15, 2009 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

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