Morning Coffee Looks At Outstanding Offers
Order of need for current outstanding offers.
- Jackson Jeffcoat - Perhaps the best player in the state, Jeffcoat would secure the future of the defensive end position for years and provide a replacement for Eddie Jones and Sam Acho.
- Reggie Wilson - See above. What makes Wilson so special is that he hasn't played football long and has a frame suited to become a beast at the power end position. He's your classic case of TUP - Tremendous Upside Potential.
- Darius White - Game. Breaker. Check this -- White is 6-4 and returns punts for his DeSoto team. And does it well. That's highly unusual and speaks to White's incredible skill. Last fall, he seemed like a lock to commit after the first Junior Day, but he stock has risen so far and he has received so many national offers that he's taking his time. He hasn't spoken for so long that it's hard to see where Texas stands at this point.
- Jordan Hicks - Since Aaron Benson has already committed as a six-foot tall linebacker, taking a larger linebacker with a combination of size and speed like Hicks becomes more important than a similar player to Benson, a category into which Corey Nelson falls.
- Adrian White - Known as the best cover cornerback in the state, White possesses the ability to come in and play as a freshman, just like Deon Beasley and Aaron Williams. It's almost becoming cliche to talk about the need for defensive backs in the Big 12, but it's no joke.
- Lache Seastrunk - It might seem strange to see Seastrunk so far down on this list. Nothing against Seastrunk, but the commitment of Chris Jones over the weekend softens the blow of potentially losing Seastrunk. In other words, Jones could provide the gamebreaking threat out of the backfield for 5-10 plays a game, while also possessing more versatility as a more polished receiver. Despite all that, Seastrunk is still near the top of the wish list for the Longhorns.
- DeMarco Cobbs - Cobbs sits at this spot on the list because of the current glut of commitments at the position and his inabiilty to make it down to Austin. Even though Cobbs likes the Longhorns a lot, it's still hard to believe that he will end up leaving Oklahoma for Texas.
- Corey Nelson - After his infamous and public "horns down" incident, the vibe hasn't been good from Nelson. Texas has won most of the battles in the Metroplex and against OU for recruits so far, but Ou seems likely to win this one.
- Torrea Peterson - The simple fact that Texas offered two defensive tackles this weekend, after it was possible that the class was finished with Bible and Cotton, indicates the level of concern with Jarvis Humphrey. Peterson ranks ahead of better players simply because of the difficulty finding defensive tackles.
- Trovon Reed - Chris Jones' commitment also lessens the need for a receiver possessing Reed's skill set, but a spot will be held for Reed as long as the numbers permit. Ultimately, Reed could impact whether or not his close friend Seastrunk ends up at Texas or at a school like LSU, probably the most likely alternate destination for both of them.
- Jake Matthews - After reports surfaced this weekend that his father, recently hired by the Texans to assist Alex Gibbs, didn't like the way the offensive line drills were being run is a bad sign, not only for the recruitment of his son, but also for the current offensive line. Don't hold your breath for a commitment from Jake.
Need positions. The class is nearly complete, but there are still several positions that need numbers (in order of importance):
- Linebacker (possibly two spots open) - The plan was always to take four linebackers at the position with so many graduations after the 2009 season, with two committed and two offers currently out (Nelson and Hicks). The problem is that Texas isn't going to land both of those players, and possibly neither, meaning that another offer would probably go out to a member of the deep linebacker class. However, Kris Catlin fell off the radar and didn't attend the second Junior Day, and neither did Earl Hines, who hasn't been high on the Longhorns during the process at all. That leaves Shaun Lewis, who is a strong OU lean, and a local player in McNeil's Kurt Killens. An offer going out to a linebacker would
- Defensive end (would take both Wilson and Jeffcoat) - Given Jeffcoat's lack of passion for Texas and Wilson's complete openness as a relatively late immigrant to the United State, like the linebacker position, Texas probably has to go out and find a second defensive end for the class. On that list would be players like Jefferson's Clarence Lee, the only Junior Day visitor without an offer at defensive end, Cedar Park's Holmes Onwukaife, or Houston Bellaire's Joe Okafor.
- Defensive back (offer out to White) - The Longhorns really want White, as the best corner in the state, but could conceivably take another, like Lancaster's Quentin Hayes, who attended the second Junior Day, but did not receive an offer. If White doesn't commit, the class could well be done at this position.
- Running back (only Seastrunk at this point) - This is the position with the least need, especially given the commitments of Traylon Shead and Chris Jones, who could carry the ball a few times a game. If Seastrunk doesn't commit and the coaches decide they need a scat back, Princeton Collins could be in line for an offer. Don't hold your breath, though, Princeton.
- Quarterback - Case McCoy and Connor Wood both committed early, even as Nick Montana was on the way for a visit, ending recruiting at the position early in the process.
- Offensive line - Jake Matthews seems like a long shot now and it's highly unlikely that another offer would go out if Matthew decides to go somewhere else, as Dominic Espinosa was a relative surprise for an offer.
- Tight end - Barrett Matthews and Trey Graham added some serious numbers to the tight end position and Josh Marshall and Blaine Irby will probably receive medical redshirts, pushing them both back a year, making tight end the least important position in the whole class. However, the Texas coaches love to convert big receivers into pass-catching tight ends, which is what will likely happen with big-bodied Darius Terrell, ending recruitment at the position.
The numbers game. The Longhorns are gorging themselves on early commitments to the extent that some people are actually wondering if things are moving too quickly. While I personally disagree with that line of reasoning, it is pertinent to wonder if Texas ended up taking lesser talents early that will keep them from taking bigger talents late. Already holding 19 verbal commitments, the Longhorns have only six spots available in the 2010 class, with 11 offers outstanding. Elemental math reveals that nearly half of those players will end up at other programs out of sheer numbers.
The most limited position that will be limited is wide receiver. With four commitments already (including Darius Terrell), that leaves only one or two spots available. In other words, the coaching staff is going to have to tell the three players currently with offers that recruiting at the position will be over when one or two of them commit. It raises an interesting problem. With Chris Jones in the fold, losing Reed isn't an issue, but telling a kid like DeMarco Cobbs or Darius White that they no longer have a scholarship available doesn't make much sense. If it is White who commits first, you could probably make the argument for taking Cobbs because he can play other positions, but he probably wouldn't be happy about that, in particular any discussion about playing defense.
Possible reaches? Every year, there are one or two players that Texas fans feel like weren't worthy of receiving offers. Considering the incredible cachet of a Texas offer and the quick commitment of many players, offering those guys is tantamount to having them on your roster. Already with 19 commitments and limited numbers, it's quite possible that several players like that currently inhabit the 2010 class.
There's a delicate balance in the process, since waiting for the top recruits sends a message of a lack of interest to the other players, who might go ahead and commit to another program. For the most part, I trust the evaluation process of the coaches, who decided to offer a guy like Greg Daniels, who blew up in size between his sophomore and junior sessons, over a player like Holmes Onwukaife or Joe Okafor. Using the Texas ranking lists by the recruiting services doesn't always tell the whole tale early in the process, as players will sometimes rise and fall based on their offers -- in other words, the evaluations of the major programs, making it kind of a circular process. Players might also rise or fall baed on film that comes in late, or a complete lack of film. That being said, there aren't any players on the list that jump out at me as big reaches. Feel free to weigh in with your own thoughts if there is someone you think the Longhorns shouldn't have taken.
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i trust the staff, the spots we have left will be filled by top talent. and as further evaluations go out, i’m sure scout/rivals will be updating player information throughout these kids junior seasons.
by Displaced Longhorn on Mar 3, 2009 1:27 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Jeffcoat and Wilson
Is there a large talent gap in between the two. I have read several different takes on the situation. Some say Wilson is just as talented as Jeffcoat and some say Jeffcoat is head and shoulders above Wilson.
by PineypointG on Mar 3, 2009 1:28 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Good question
I think Jeffcoat would be a quick end at Texas and Wilson a power end, so the comparison isn’t as easy as it might seem. Since his father was a defensive lineman in the NFL, he helps his son out a lot with technique, meaning that Jeffcoat is more maxed out than most high school d-ends. Wilson, however, is relatively raw as someone who hasn’t played football long, so he has more upside than Jeffcoat. Honestly, I don’t think you can go wrong with either one.
by GhostofBigRoy on Mar 3, 2009 1:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
How Certain We Get at Least 1 of the 2?
by realmccoy on Mar 3, 2009 1:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'd put it a little over 50%
that one chooses Texas. The problem I see is that Jeffcoat is extremely open and Wilson doesn’t have the built-in feelings for Texas football that has led to so many commitments already, leaving him open minded as well. I think the better bet is Wilson deciding that all the defensive ends produced recently, guys like Tim Crowder, Brian Orakpo, Brian Robison, etc., makes Texas a great place to learn the position and that it gives him the best shot at winning a national championship, rather than Jeffcoat deciding he likes the school more than he thought. The last part is pure speculation, as it’s hard to get a read on Jeffcoat, other than he doesn’t sound like the guys who know they want to go to Texas and don’t need a lot of time to think about it.
by GhostofBigRoy on Mar 3, 2009 1:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
nothing is certain in recruiting.. it’s definitely a wait and see game.
by Displaced Longhorn on Mar 3, 2009 1:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
uhhh, what? darrell scott was reported as being strongly interested in Texas, his mom was leaning colorado… many texas fans were certain he was coming here… if we all just waited.. and saw.. what happened, we could have saved ourselves alot of grief.
the biggest “horns lock” that went somewhere else most recently? mcfarland…
by Displaced Longhorn on Mar 3, 2009 4:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think McFarland was ever reported anywhere as a “Horns Lock” during recruiting. He was at best a slight lean after his mother’s falling out with the OU D-Line coach.
by hodad on Mar 4, 2009 9:28 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
He was rumored as a silent commit
from the time of the spring game into the fall.
by Horncasting on Mar 4, 2009 1:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Quick Question Roy
Do you think the large number of early commits will create a focus and a competition for remaining offers that will make us a little more successful with the 5 star recruits this year?
by realmccoy on Mar 3, 2009 1:41 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I think that could be a storyline
but I don’t know how much it will actually help in practice. Hopefully, it forces the players to really think about how much they like Texas and if they find something there, then make an earlier decision than maybe they thought. With momentum in gaining commitments at an all-time high this season, I think it will be an interesting test case for that theory and something that I will continue to follow and think about.
by GhostofBigRoy on Mar 3, 2009 1:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
If you had to put % of confidence on the top 4 you think Texas gets from this list
who would they be and what % confidence?
It appears from everything written so far that it’s somewhat likely we get:
Wilson
Both Whites
Hicks
Any others would be a bonus. That would leave 2 scholarships for another DE and another LB.
If those were the only 4 we got it would still round out a tremendous top 5 class with 3 or 4 potential 5-stars it seems.
by jtlonghorn on Mar 3, 2009 1:56 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
At first glance
That list in your post seems racist, even though I’m all for the recruitment of both Whites and Hicks. =D
by BoddickerIsClutch on Mar 3, 2009 2:25 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
+1 haha i was thinking the same thing
COACH BOOM BABY!!
by hookemkp on Mar 3, 2009 3:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Thoughts/Questions
-I agree that there is not an obvious reach in the group of commits so far. All of the guys are either highly rated or have a pretty impressive offer list (or both).
-I can’t see how we’d have room for Peterson now. If you include one of Kriegal or Mims, we’ve got 6 DT’s between the 2009 and 2010 classes.
-It will be interesting to see if any schools hire Jim Jeffcoat as a coach (he’s currently a DL coach at UH) in order to get Jackson.
-Hadn’t heard that about Bruce Matthews. That is a bummer. I wonder if that is a indictment of McWhorter and our OL play the last couple of years (actually almost every year without VY).
-What are your thoughts on Evan Washington? He seems to really want to be a Horn and we don’t have an OT in this class yet. Taking less than 3 linemen in any year is a mistake IMO.
by Horncasting on Mar 3, 2009 2:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Agree about Peterson
and I’m not even sure why he got an offer. That’s why I think the coaches are really worried about Jarvis Humphrey.
-I really think the Longhorns need to add good, former NFL player to their coaching staff at some point.
-I actually think that Bruce Matthews would be a great addition to the coaching staff (he taught his son technique so well) and spent some time thinking about it after someone posted the information about him going to the Texans, which I misread the first time as joining Texas, as in the Longhorns. Mac McWhorter is probably going to retire in the next several seasons and I think a former NFL lineman would be a great place to go at that point.
As far as what Matthews (supposedly) didn’t like about practice, I’m not really sure, it could have been the zone-blocking scheme or simply how they went about that scheme.
-I really like Evan Washington. Scipio Tex was talking recently about valuing lineman who played other positions earlier in their career and/or basketball. Washington is a classic basketball example and has a ton of offers — I guess the coaches felt that Espinosa helped a need inside or weren’t convinced that Washington would fulfill his potential. I don’t think there is much chance that he gets an offer now with the numbers what they are.
by GhostofBigRoy on Mar 3, 2009 3:49 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
-I really think the Longhorns need to add good, former NFL player to their coaching staff at some point.
I hope you are thinking what I am. Rod Babers.
by BoddickerIsClutch on Mar 3, 2009 3:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I want to live in a world where Rod Babers coaches public relations for the horns.
Rod Babers = Always Funny
proud to swim home
by learned hand on Mar 3, 2009 4:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
was that line "Rod Babers = Always Funny" from a Bill and Erik cartoon?
aaaaand i looked it up. Yes it was: http://billanderik.com/archive/sea05_pages/sea05_041.htm
loved that cartoon in the Daily Texan.
by billyzane on Mar 3, 2009 5:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Requesting a clarification on Bruce Matthews
A pro football hall of famer doesn’t like our drills, or the fact that our drills play a part in a haphazard blocking scheme? Not that either would surprise me
proud to swim home
by learned hand on Mar 3, 2009 2:24 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
yeah, I am googling and can't find his comments...
Can someone help us out there?
by the1austin on Mar 3, 2009 2:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Scipio Tex mentions it
in his recruiting recap today.
by GhostofBigRoy on Mar 3, 2009 8:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Really appreciate your stuff, Roy: fresh, knowledgeable, insightful and, best of all, free. :)
Though Texas’ interest in individual recruits and individual recruits’ interest in Texas will wax and wane as the year continues, at this relatively early stage of the game which of the 11 recruits that you list in the “order of need for current outstanding offers” do you consider to be the five most likely to eventually commit to Texas?
If possible, please list in order of most likely to least likely with “probability of eventual commitment” given in parentheses. Hope this isn’t asking for too much and thanks in advance.
by JoePaulSantini on Mar 3, 2009 2:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Here goes...(I don't have much experience with this)
Five most likely
1. Adrian White (70)
2. Darius White (60)
3. Jordan Hicks (50)
4. Reggie Wilson (35)
5. DeMarco Cobbs (30%)
Five least likely
1. Jake Matthews (10)
2. Trovon Reed (10)
3. Corey Nelson (15)
4. Jackson Jeffcoat (20)
5. Lache Seastrunk (25%)
by GhostofBigRoy on Mar 3, 2009 4:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Why so pessimistic on Seastrunk?
I thought that the Wood commitment was supposed to have helped a little. Seems like a UT/LSU battle with LSU holding a lead right now.
I’d also put Jeffcoat a little higher – maybe 35% with Wilson.
Pulling Hicks and Cobbs out of tOSU and Oklahoma country is going to be tough, regardless of where they stand right now.
by Horncasting on Mar 3, 2009 4:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I just have a bad feeling with Seastrunk
and it’s also hard to tell what he’s thinking because he doesn’t like doing interviews.
Agree about Hicks and Cobbs — really I’m just blindly guessing as to the numbers.
by GhostofBigRoy on Mar 3, 2009 4:41 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Wasnt he wearing USC shoes at some event at the end of the season last year too?
by BoddickerIsClutch on Mar 4, 2009 8:34 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
USC already has commits from 2 RB's for 2010
And from thier respective sizes (about 180 lbs.) neither looks to be big bruising back like Lendale White (or Cody Johnson or Chris Whaley).
Maybe this will help keep him from USC. Although they didn’t sign a RB last year.
by Horncasting on Mar 4, 2009 9:12 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Hicks
per Rivals new video added today (free) Hicks still sounds to be a pretty solid Horns lean. Just sounds like he wants to do his due diligence when selecting a school.
http://rivals.yahoo.com/video/recruiting-football/amp-jordan-hicks-talks-recruiting-45271
by horns9452 on Mar 3, 2009 2:57 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
This kid looks like a beast
and what a coup if they are able to pull him from Ohio.
by jtlonghorn on Mar 3, 2009 3:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
that smile that starts to creep up
when he talks about Texas being his favorite school growing up has to be a good sign.
by hungry on Mar 3, 2009 3:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I had a question about the numbers game roy
I see other schools taking more than 25+ players last year (Alabama, Ole miss Arkansas). I am sure they might be under different circumstances, but what is the likely chance of this class being close to 30?
And did Mack ever withdraw scholarships or ask to transfer to current players on the team? (in order to make more room for recruits and their respective scholarships)
COACH BOOM BABY!!
by hookemkp on Mar 3, 2009 3:26 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
To my knowledge
Brown and the coaching staff have never directly asked a player to leave or transfer, or taken away a scholarship.
The problem with taking too many players is that already the program will be at, I believe, 91 scholarships for 2010 right now. Clearly, the coaches expect serious attrition of more than six players, possibly as many as 12 if the class goes 25 deep in 2010. I don’t see this class being close to 30 unless nearly all but one or two of the players with scholarship offers commit — which is highly unlikely. There probably won’t be more than two or three, possibly four more scholarship offers that would potentially go out if certain players commit somewhere else. I believe three players have been told that they are approved for offers — Midlothian’s Eddie Johnson (wide receiver) and both of the Channelview kids (DE Cedric Steward and WR Chris Hawkins).
by GhostofBigRoy on Mar 3, 2009 4:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Question
When you say they’ve been approved for offers, do you mean there’s an offer outstanding, or that they may still get an offer contingent on others not accepting?
by jc25 on Mar 3, 2009 4:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Basically they are "Texas good"
but there are other players the staff has higher up on their board and their offer will only come if they don’t get one of the higher ranked players.
In the past they have also told players they were approved for an offer if/when they get their academics in order.
by Horncasting on Mar 3, 2009 4:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Not Roy, but my response
Essentially every school is capped at the 25 signees per class, 85 total scholarships rule. When you see a school sign (or at least get commitments from) more than 25, a few things can be going on:
1. They are taking a flyer on guys that have a very small chance of actually getting accepted academically.
2. They had a class smaller than 25 players in the previous year and some of the guys will enroll in Dec. and count against the previous years 25 max. Basically pushing the scholarship back a year.
3. They are planning to grayshirt some of the players – generally the player enrolls in school on time but does not join the team until the following spring in order to keep his 5 year window from starting. Basically this pushes the scholarship forward a year. Recent examples of this at UT include Tony Hills Jr. and Ulatoski – both grayshirted due to injuries.
Mack has pulled scholarships before when a position has filled up or when there have been character or grade issues that surfaced prior to signing day. I can’t really see him doing this for current players, although he may make it clear where a player stands on the depth chart.
by Horncasting on Mar 3, 2009 4:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Question
2. They had a class smaller than 25 players in the previous year and some of the guys will enroll in Dec. and count against the previous years 25 max. Basically pushing the scholarship back a year.
Is this a legally acceptable practice?
by jc25 on Mar 3, 2009 4:08 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, happens all of the time
Every school does it.
by Horncasting on Mar 3, 2009 4:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Also
As an extension of 1, some schools will sign a player they know is not academically eligible and stick him in a prep school (such as Hargrave) or possibly a JUCO with the outside expectation that the player will get his grades in order and sign with them the following year.
by jc25 on Mar 3, 2009 4:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Or if they are academically ineligble they go to Miami, where everyone is welcome.
by Hookem4life84 on Mar 3, 2009 4:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
The modern equivalent of 80’s Miami is West Virginia. They took Noel Divine and got him eligible after every team in the SEC couldn’t figure out a way to get him on the field. Dude is basically illiterate.
Just think about this: Divine is so bad academically (he may have a learning disorder) that LSU couldn’t find a way to get him eligible. LSU.
by hodad on Mar 4, 2009 9:36 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
didn't mean to sound mean...
..I just found it interesting that you were calling this kid dumb as rocks and fail to correctly spell his name.
by vy til i die on Mar 4, 2009 1:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
A&M tried this under Fran
and failed miserably.
by Horncasting on Mar 3, 2009 4:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Only downfall to so many early commitments
is I think it is increases the odds of somone backing out of their verbal late in the process. A verbal is just that, a verbal, which means the recruiting process never stops. Other programs will continue trying to recruit these players and most likely will pay no attention to their current decision. It will be up to Mack and Co. to continue communicating with these players on a daily and weekly basis, so that there is no chance of them wavering.
by Hookem4life84 on Mar 3, 2009 3:30 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
i think the coaches do a good job of this...
I don’t think we have had a decommit from an in-state player in quite a while. Barnett made that trip to Miami and it sounds like the coaches made the hard push and the kid was quick to back down and note the trip was more a vacation than a recruiting trip. I think most of the last two classes have made it to town for the awards banquet and the team seems to pay for officials if the commits want to make the trip. I don’t think I have heard any recent recruit doing the ‘they stopped with love and so I started looking elsewhere’ crap that you sometimes hear.
by Rickyspub on Mar 3, 2009 3:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
How many Verbals has Mack lost?
by BoddickerIsClutch on Mar 3, 2009 3:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
lost verbals
Recently, Perrilloux and Brantley are the only two I can think of. Anyone else?
by jc25 on Mar 3, 2009 3:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Riley Dodge
I wouldn’t say we lost him though, he wanted to go play for his Dad at UNT. Besides being on a terrible team, he made the right decision, I highly doubt he would have ever seen the field at Texas.
by Hookem4life84 on Mar 3, 2009 3:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
A few more
Billy Don Malone – QB recruit that committed prior to VY, and then switched to Tulane after we got VY.
Earl Anderson – DE recruit in same class as Pickryl, Dibbles (DE in highschool), Brian Robinson, Mike Williams, Garnett Smith, etc. Switched to TCU.
Jacob Hester – one of the first commits of that class. Actually got a Longhorn tattoo. Caved to pressure to stay in Louisiana and switched to LSU (not that it turned out to be a bad decision for him).
Emmanuel Moody – followed his heart to USC. Bad decision. Now a backup at UF. His commitment to UT probably cost us Goodson, so he helped us out there.
Zack Pianalto – TE who switched to UNC right after Butch Davis got hired (man could we have used him last year).
Martellus Bennett/Darrell Scott depending on how you want to view them.
Others I can’t put a name to:
-Punter that switched to Notre Dame
-LB from Louisiana who switched to OU
-LB from North Carolina, ended up at either Miami or FSU.
by Horncasting on Mar 3, 2009 4:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not questioning the staff's ability to keep a verbal
I’m just merely pointing out the job will be tough this year with the unprecedented amount of commits by March 1.
by Hookem4life84 on Mar 3, 2009 3:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Had a bunch early last year, though not as many
I think around 11 by this time and none of them backed out.
by GhostofBigRoy on Mar 3, 2009 4:03 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
My 2 cents
I’d put Patterson at the bottom of the list, seeing as there’s 3 DT’s in the class already. At most, 2 DT’s take the field at a given time, and perhaps less so in Muschamp’s speed-emphasized, counter-spread defense. Meanwhile, you need 5 offensive linemen on the field at all times. Both Matthews and Washington project as OT’s, so worse-case they can spin inside the line, while Patterson likely is a DT or bust.
by jc25 on Mar 3, 2009 3:48 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
An All Pro, ostensibly impressed by and open to Texas recruiting his son, doesn’t like how we run OL drills and therefore probably doesn’t want his son to go to Texas.
Well, that takes it beyond spin, doesn’t it?
I would enjoy hearing a definitive explanation.
by utexex on Mar 3, 2009 4:25 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I expect in involves the words
“Reach blocking on a dive play out of your own endzone?!!!” followed by confused, vitriolic swearing.
Here’s a more detailed airing of grievances.
proud to swim home
by learned hand on Mar 3, 2009 4:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
With all due respect
I am more convinced than ever the running attack is a serious threat for next year. I am a firm believer in the passing game opens up the running game, despite the opposite in the NFL. (think Best at Cal, Hunter at Okie St., Moreno at GA, and Rodgers at Oregon St.) I am by no means saying it will be our first option, but when called upon it will be enough of a change of pace to keep the D from stacking the line and causing negative yards. (Of course this is all predicated on our O line being able to perform).
by horns9452 on Mar 4, 2009 1:36 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Roy, an evaluation please???
What is your opinion of offering Case McCoy? From nearly everything that I have read about him, which isn’t much, he is not nearly as talented as his brother. From poor mechanics to lack of athleticism in comparison, does it makes sense for the ‘Horns to offer him? Between Gilbert and Wood, they appear to be set at the QB position for some time. With the relative concerns about defensive line depth, shouldn’t we be using the Case McCoy offer more efficiently?
by nmckenzie1 on Mar 4, 2009 10:40 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
We don't want a repeat of 2006...
I think Case is a good pick up. He is insurance. Imagine if next year Harris goes down and Wood has to burn his redshirt playing behind Gilbert. He could end up like Snead did, feeling unwanted and unused while being forced to burn a year of eligibility. If he leaves, then we go into 2010 completely screwed on the QB front, especially because all the top 2011 QBs might be already committed to other schools. Case could be at the very least a Harris type: loyal and willing to fill his role even if it means being a career back up QB. He could also be like Colt and make Wood (and Gilbert?) wish he had gone elsewhere…I am not hoping this happens…but better to have him there then potentially have no experience and no depth in a couple of years.
by Rickyspub on Mar 4, 2009 11:37 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Worst case he is Matt Nordgren
Every team needs a guy with a good attitude who is willing to sit behind the starter and provide depth (if that in fact turns out to be his role). Without Nordgren, McCoy probably doesn’t redshirt in 2005 and we don’t have him now.
A lack of QB depth lead to the whole Applewhite/Simms controversy as well.
by Horncasting on Mar 4, 2009 1:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
MackDavis has .......
….never showed an ability to effectively manage & develop more than three QBs at a time.
Transfers and QB recruit indecision are immanent.
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by HornChamps on Mar 7, 2009 12:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone actually do that?
I don’t follow anyone else to the extent needed to know what the standard is. I guess USC seems to always have 4 or 5 deep in the skill positions, but I would think the norm would be 2 or 3 QBs plus a couple walk ons.
by Wells on Mar 7, 2009 2:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
David Greene's senior season .....
……saw Mark Richt handling 5 QBs, 4 of them Elite-11. Baylor runs 4 QBs. Urban Meyer likes to run 4 & 5 QBs at Florida. Michigan was running 5 QBs before they all started transferring at Rich Rodriguez’s hiring.
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by HornChamps on Mar 8, 2009 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Darius White
Darius White – Game. Breaker. Check this — White is 6-4 and returns punts for his DeSoto team.
Doesn’t Darius White play for Ft Worth Dunbar?
by littlebighorn on Mar 4, 2009 7:01 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

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