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Replacing OG, Third-Down Back Extraordinaire, Part II -- The Candidates

Each of the three returning Longhorn running backs competing for the starting job struggled in at least one of the aspects last season in which OG excelled -- scheme versatility, vision, hands, and blitz pick up. McGee and Whittaker struggled picking up blitzes. McGee and Johnson struggled catching the ball out of the backfield, with neither one a threat when split wide were the offense to go to an empty backfield.

Trailing Johnson and McGee on the depth chart, Whittaker may be forced into the role of third-down back out of sheer necessity, but his size will always limit his ability to pick up blitzes -- the main concern of the offensive coaching staff and a large enough concern within the offense that it may keep Whittaker off the field in third-down situations. He did, however, demonstrate his ability to catch the ball out of the backfield, with 10 catches on the year for 51 yards -- not big plays, but catching check downs are essentially running plays in the Texas offense.

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That brings us to Tre' Newton. Ah, yes, Tre' Newton. Not known for his speed, Newton nevertheless impressed coaches during bowl workouts with his ability to understand the requirements of a running back in the spread scheme, having significant experience in the Southlake Carroll spread in high school. As such, Newton understands how to pick up blitzes and is an excellent receiver out of the backfield. The question is how well Newton can run the ball. When the Longhorns accelerated their tempo in the Fiesta Bowl, it was with Chris Ogbonnaya in the game, allowing Texas to go empty if necessary, flexibility that Newton certainly allows. However, when accelerating the tempo to keep the defense from substituting, scheme versatility becomes the main criteria and it isn't clear if Newton can effectively run the ball in those situations. A true third-down back, on the other hand, will rarely be asked to run the football, making Newton a serious candidate.

Newton doesn't possess the bruising running of Cody Johnson, the speed/power combination of Vondrell McGee, or the speed of Fozzy Whittaker, but he could play the same situational role third-down role that Chris Obgonnaya was expected to fill before showing some ability as an every-down back. Newton will likely provide the most value by showing capability in picking up the blitz when opposing teams attempt to tee off on Colt McCoy, as they did often last season.

Just as 11 personnel forces defenses to make a choice between stopping the running game with three linebackers or stopping the passing game with five defensive backs, the schematically versatile Ogbonnaya, combined with the increased tempo and lack of substitutions, forced the defense to make a strategic choice as soon as the Longhorns started a drive, a strategic coach in terms of personnel that the defensive coordinator would have to live with as long as the Longhorns went no-huddle and didn't substitute.

Newton may fit into the offense by providing the same versatility as Obgonnaya when the Longhorns want to increase tempo without worrying about teams blitzing to slow them down, in fact, Newton may provide more scheme versatility than any other running back on the roster. That doesn't mean that he's a threat to win the starting job, but it does mean that he could be a situational player and contribute in a valuable role. Given his versatility, he is less likely to transfer than a player like Jeremy Hills, who doesn't have the same versatile skill set and could become a victim of the number's game at the position.

Another option, according to word emerging from the program, is that fullback Antwan Cobb could fill in as the third-down back. Cobb doesn't have much of a track record to indicate his ability to fill that role, but he did score the first touchdown of the season against Arkansas State in 2007 after catching a wheel route out of the backfield, perhaps the most important route for backs to run in the Greg Davis offense. With his background as a fullback, Cobb would seem to have the blocking ability that is crucial in third-down situations when opposing teams like to blitz and may provide the scheme versatility demanded when the Longhorns want to split him out as a receiver. Like Newton, the biggest concern for Cobb is his ability to run the ball in an accelerated tempo situation.

Ultimately, the Longhorns may not discover their third-down back until the conference season approaches. With little resistance expected even from Texas Tech, finding a solution to the issue isn't the primary concern on offense -- finding a starting running back is more important. Right now, it looks like Cobb holds the edge over Tre' Newton, but Fozzy Whittaker could become a factor in the equation if he gains enough strength during the off season to match up physically with blitzing linebackers and safeties, which seems the least likely outcome.

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I may be wrong

But doesn’t there seem to be an implict indictment of the staff’s ability or willingness to adequately coach chip (and maybe the occasionally chop) blocking to our RBs? A 200lb back should be big enough to buy time against a blitzing LB or safety and avoid hurting himself in the process.

I thought the concern with Whittaker is primarily his ability to diagnose rather than his physical ability to hold up at the POA.

proud to swim home

by learned hand on Apr 15, 2009 12:22 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I Go Back A Step Further

If you had a home-run threat back in the backfield – a team would be scared chitless to go full out blitz against Colt. Look at what Murray does for Bradford – unless you got a couple of freaks like Orakpo – they cannot be defensed. USC, Fla, TX may be the full list of the teams that had a chance to keep OU under 40.

by realmccoy on Apr 15, 2009 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like the post, however....

This is predicated on the assumption that the 2009 offense will be as inept running the football as the 2008 offense was. Colt’s ridiculous completion % notwithstanding, It was our inability to shorten the field on 1st and 2nd down by running the football that really caused us to be dependant on OG’s versatility as a third down back. An improved running attack (and shorter third down distances) would impact the role of the third down back in several ways:

1. De-emphasize blitz pick-up. Blitzing Colt on 3rd and 8 is common practice, blitzing Colt on 3rd and 2 is suicide.
2. Emphasize short yardage back. Consistenly converting short yardage gives Mack the ability to take gambles on third down and short situations with play-action downfield. If they fail to convert, we still have a high likelihood of converting on fourth down.
3. Emphasize receiving ability. Short yardage situations would favor the backs that can split out, go in motion, or run the screen.

Behind an improving offensive line, some seasoning for Cody and Fozzy, and a renewed focus on running the football this spring I believe the Horns will be more effective running the ball in 2009. Consequentially, I don’t believe that the longhorns will be looking to replace OG “thid down specialist” role. Instead, the backfield will probably be much more fluid, with several backs shuffling in and out based on the situation, and not necessarily the down. We are probably just as likely to see Cody on the field on 3rd and 2, as we are on 2nd and 2 or Fozzy, or McGee. If we find ourselves in third and long my guess would be Cobb would be there, and his lack of “multiple” ability would be balanced with the greater playmaking ability of our WRs.

The constant rotation will probably be infuriating to fans once again, and I don’t think it will change unless we find a back that is consistent, with versatility, and has the stamina to take the ball more than 20 times a game. I believe this what they coaches think they have in Chris Whaley.

by BMG on Apr 15, 2009 12:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Here's a question...
The constant rotation will probably be infuriating to fans once again, and I don’t think it will change unless we find a back that is consistent, with versatility, and has the stamina to take the ball more than 20 times a game.

I started thinking… perhaps this constant rotation is the way that college football is heading? When you have an embarrassment of talent at any position, you try to mold your scheme to fit the strengths of key individuals for particular situations. As both of GoBR’s posts have gotten at, each of our backs has a strength doing a different thing depending on the situation; and as the conversation below about Florida’s backs shows, there are other teams who put certain players in at certain times to get the outcome they want.

I wouldn’t be surprised to see more teams cycling their backs in and out to fit the situation, and not just on short-yardage situations. As has been mentioned before (either here or at BarkingCarnival, I can’t remember), the blocking scheme has so much more to do with the eventual success of the HB than the HB himself. Yes, of course you have HBs who can rise above a crappy o-line to greatness, but just as easily you can have a mid-grade HB run roughshod behind a dominating line.

So if you’ve already got the line to support your stable of running backs, then you can start turning to the other skillsets of those running backs depending on the situation – receiving, blocking, or even passing.

by TXinDC on Apr 15, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Texas has a collection of RB, not a stable

Texas doesn’t have an embarrassment of talent at RB, it has the exact opposite. There is a dirth of talent at RB. We don’t have a stable full of thoroughbreds, we haven’t recruited the position well enough and we’re left with a collection of average players. None of the returning RBs from last year would start on OU, A&M, or OSU’s teams. This doesn’t preclude us from having a better running attack than we had last year, but let’s not get carried away comparing our “stable” to Florida’s or OU’s for that matter. Those guys have great RBs and we do not.

Many teams do succeed with a committee approach (OU being one of them). However, they (and Florida) field a successful committee because they have uber talented running backs who are fairly similiar is size/speed/skill combination. Each of these guys could start on several other teams in their conference. Every one of OU’s backs could have started at Texas last year, and the same could be said for Florida’s.

Texas isn’t in that boat. We’ve got the same quantity of backs, but the talent isn’t on par with other top 5 schools and I think the coaches know it.

Here’s a quote from GD regarding Cody Johnson:

“He’s got excellent vision. He’s got really light feet for a big guy,” Davis said. “I think he has a chance to be an every-down back for us. I think he has a chance to be a real good back.”
Davis said he would like him to come back in August weighing 240. He said he thinks that would help his conditioning and help him survive the stress of being the every-down back."

If we read between the lines, I don’t think its an issue of quantity – its quality. We’re more than a year removed from Jamaal Charles leaving and we still have no clear cut #1 back. We might have an embarassment of riches at other positions, but we can’t find a single RB who can cut it as a starter (as of this spring). Here’s hoping Cody is that guy (I don’t think he’s got the speed we need) in the short-term, and hopefully Whaley will be the solution sooner rather than later.

Like i’ve said before, we can be more productive at the running game than last year (which i consider to be rock bottom), but I would not expect anyone currently on the roster to collect 1,000 yards.

by BMG on Apr 15, 2009 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I heard it through the grapevine........

no I don’t have a reliable source.This is probably pure speculation.

DeSean Hales would be moved to RB.He has good speed and hands but I’m not sure how good a blocker he might be.Read it on a blog.

Dravannti Johnson was moved to TE.This I got from an aquaintance much removed from Sergio.

by TCB Orange Dino on Apr 15, 2009 1:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Very interesting, TCB

Hales makes sense . . . he was a HS running back who’d be a terror matched up on a LB, the IF IF IF being a TE who could block somebody to keep the pass rush under control.

As to Johnson to TE, why not? Somebody with some athletic skill who can stay off the injury list has value.

by edsp on Apr 15, 2009 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does anyone have insight

to Florida’s running back practices. Obviously, they’ve stockpiled RB talent but have shown mediocre results in the running game the past two years. Yet they somehow managed to win a National Championship last year. Obviously, we don’t have a Percy Harvin (paging DeSean Hales), but their Moody/Rainey/Demps triumvirate seems eerily similar to ours, and Tebow’s running ability, as good as it is, may take a backseat to Colt’s.

I’m particularly curious how they handled these 3rd and long situations. Did they leave Harvin in the backfield or put him in the slot? Which type of RB primarily handled the obvious blocking situations? How many times was Tebow flustered from the pocket, and how did he succeed in those types of situations. I only assume we could learn a thing or three from this type of analysis.

by jc25 on Apr 15, 2009 1:20 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

after tebow checks off his first receiver, he ends up using a technique called a “tebow smash” whereby he converts back into a FB and runs up the field, netting an automatic 4 to 6 yds.

by Displaced Longhorn on Apr 15, 2009 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hrm

I believe we had the same technique, only it was called “smash colt” whereby he converts into a ragdoll and gets tossed around up the field, netting a hard-earned 4 to 6 yds.

by jc25 on Apr 15, 2009 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, it helps not to be in the sickest division in CFB...

They managed to win a National Championship by beating the 2nd best team in the Big 12 South. They would have likely been ranked even farther behind Oklahoma than we were if they played in Big 12 South last year and ran a similar 11-1 record. They lost at home and didn’t exactly run up the score on their competitors.

by Rickyspub on Apr 15, 2009 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Major Reality Check

Calling Florida’s backs “mediocre” and then comparing them to the Horns is really unfair to the Gators. Here is a quick summary:

Texas
Fozzy, Cody, and Vondrell averaged a very pedestrian 4.4, 4.3, and 4.4 yards per carry and totalled 16 TDs. Of the 16 TDs – 12 were battering ram runs by Cody Johnson. These backs combined for right around 1,200 yards for Texas.

Florida
Harvin, Rainey, Demps, even Emmanuel Moody averaged 9.4, 7.8, 7.8, and 7.2 yards per carry. If that is mediocre – sign me up. They totalled over 2,300 yards and had 22 touchdowns. Those 22 TDs were legit TDs – as Tebow hogs the “Cody Johnson” type TD run.

The fact of the matter is that after Harvin’s departure – the Gator’s will have 3 backs better than our starter. That is sad and points to the dire need to get Seastrunk or equivalent. Not sure he would be the real deal – but I can tell you the Horns biggest deficiency is a 5 Star type talent at RB. Fix that and I will live with Muschamp’s ability to scheme away the DT issue, and GD’s ability to do the same at TE – and ride their ability to the MNC

by realmccoy on Apr 15, 2009 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

thanks for looking up the stats

And I agree, mediocre is perhaps too strong a word. Nevertheless, I imagine it’s about perception, in that even Florida fans perceived their running game to be a (relative) weakness on their squad.

by jc25 on Apr 15, 2009 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

...

Moreover, it shouldn’t be a matter of talent: per Rivals, Demps, Rainey and Moody were all 4 stars, as were McGee, Whittaker, and Cody Johnson. In ’06, McGee (57) was ranked higher than Moody (70), and of the remainig only Rainey (89) was ranked in the top 100 in ’07.

by jc25 on Apr 15, 2009 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe More a Question of Speed than talent

Those guys are so fast that you hold your breath when they carry the ball. McGee looks like a guy who is not instinctive – so maybe he has some speed that doesn’t translate. Fozzy always hurt. And Cody a short yardage specialist.

Although improbably, maybe Whaley could help? I know that the Horns would go to the MNC with an effective running game. We would be unstoppable offensively with a kickazz defense.

by realmccoy on Apr 15, 2009 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have to disagree about CoJo

I realize it’s a spring game, but the staff putting CoJo at the top of the depth chart means something to them. He doesn’t have acceleration, but in that way he’s more like a train: slow to get going, but once the motor is at full speed, he’s not going to be stopped until he wants to stop.

I just don’t see him as a short yardage – only back.

by TXinDC on Apr 15, 2009 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he had some impressive runs but I

still want to see more before Im content with CJ. I remember he got his first start at RB at colorado. First 2 plays he was involved in: run for 0 yards, dropped pass from colt. So as good as he is, the feature role doesnt seem to fit.

by owenh on Apr 15, 2009 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Perception

I think the perception comes from the fact that in Florida’s “close” games, the running game often struggled. In their blowout wins (which were a lot of their wins), they often ran roughshod over their opponents.

It’s probably not a fair assessment of their run game to boil it down to that, but that’s probably why some people, even among Florida fans, feel like their run game is lacking. Against Ole Miss, their loss at home, they only averaged 3.5 yards per carry, and that was with Percy Harvin having 10 carries for 82 yards. Against Alabama, they only averaged 3.4 yards per carry, clearly missing Harvin. Against Oklahoma, they averaged a nice 5.7 yards per carry but were clearly saved by Percy Harvin’s explosiveness. Tebow came on in the second half to have 22 carries for over 100 yards, but he struggled in the first half and Demps had 9 carries for only 23 yards for a paltry average of 2.6 (Moody only carried once and got nothing). In other words, in their tight games, their runningbacks were often far from impressive. Again, this is probably not a fair way to assess their run game, but obviously games like this will draw more attention than walloping The Citadel. Heck, even though they ran away from Miami 26-3 eventually, that game was tight through much of it and Miami held them to 3.3 yards per carry.

I think Florida has some talented backs (my roommate happens to be childhood friends with Emmanuel Moody, strangely enough), but I also think they may miss Percy Harvin much more than they want to believe.

by TheElusiveShadow on Apr 15, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good post, as always. I have a question...

You may have addressed this before, so I apologize if I’ve missed it somewhere but I’d be interested in your opinion. We all love Major but is there a chance that some of the running game issues may have to do with the way these guys are being developed? In the interview of Casey Hampton by Roy Miller, Casey gave credit to the tradition of NFL level D linemen, coming to and from Texas, in part to having the “best D line coach in the business” (or something like that). Is Major the “best” or at least a “great” RB coach?

by utexas87 on Apr 15, 2009 4:24 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The issues go way back before Major

Frankly, without VY or Ricky in the backfield, our running game has pretty pedestrian in Mack’s entire tenure. I realize that during that time we put up some decent running stats, but quite a bit of those were racked up against terrible competition. Without VY or Ricky, we’ve rarely been able to run the ball effectively against good teams.

But to answer your question, I believe Major is here for his recruiting and because he is considered the successor to Greg Davis. I doubt anyone would consider him a top-flight RB coach (although you do have to give alot of credit for no fumbles by our RB’s last year).

by Horncasting on Apr 15, 2009 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He certainly helps them know where to be,

but I think the jury is still out about how well Applewhite can coach running backs. Do you have to be a former running back to effectively coach the position? I don’t know. I don’t think you can say that Applewhite can’t after only one season, but he is clearly not an unmitigated success at this point either. Time will tell.

by GhostofBigRoy on Apr 15, 2009 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

re: Applewhite
Do you have to be a former running back to effectively coach the position?

I don’t think so. There are many coaches that never played professional or even college ball that have been successful. (ie Gregg Poppovich, Charlie Weis, Mike Leach…etc) I think his knowledge of the game overcomes experience at the position.

by vy til i die on Apr 16, 2009 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

don't forget...

the running back coach Major replaced is still on the staff. It’s hard to imagine those two don’t talk.

by BMG on Apr 16, 2009 2:59 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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