OU Trying Really Hard Not to Cheat Anymore......Srsly
OU is getting all Big Brother on their athletic teams and players, both keeping track of their online activities and mandating what they can and cannot do and say on social networking sites. One choice line from the new policy, "Partying, drinking and getting wasted do not qualify as real hobbies or interests." I beg to differ, OU, I beg to differ.
Regardless, I understand the need for something like this. The fact that they're monitoring everything that goes on electronically does help defeat the "lack of institutional control" accusation (though it of course does make it harder to claim no knowledge when OU does eventually get caught cheating again, like they always do). And the fact that they have guidelines for the players isn't a bad idea either (Buck Burnette could have used some guidance, but I guess there's no accounting for stupid). It seems more a statement of how byzantine the NCAA rules are that something like this is needed at all, but still. Rules are rules, unless you're OU.
As an aside, did you know that OU cheats at the following sports: baseball, wrestling, women's basketball, softball, men's tennis and rowing? I didn't either, but I could have guessed. Also, six more (admittedly minor) football violations!
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Thank you for giving me a reason to post my favorite OU magazine cover.
by the1austin on Apr 21, 2009 12:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Would they count this
When they get someone on the cover of SI, the athletic department usually drops numbers like “This is the 5th time that OU or an OU player has been featured on the cover of SI.” Or would they add “Well, six if you count Charles Thompson.”
by Horn Brain on Apr 21, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Every time I see that I shake my head in wonder that OU so consistently eludes serious NCAA penalties.
by burntorangehorn on Apr 21, 2009 1:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It's because they're so awesome.
The Ralphie Report - University of Colorado Athletics
by Jon Woods on Apr 21, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Remember they were ESPN's most program with the most 'Prestige'...
The big dogs get all the accolades while only getting slap on the wrist for cheating. USC probably will never pay any real price for their pay-for-play guys Bush and Mayo. They might vacate some wins that will be reinstated upon appeal, but that will be it. The NCAA doesn’t even cut schollies or ban postseason play anymore.
by Rickyspub on Apr 21, 2009 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They're a lot like...
…KU basketball in that respect.
We'll carry the banner high!
Bring On The Cats
by TB on Apr 22, 2009 8:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd like to hear more about that.
Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.
by Caradoc on Apr 22, 2009 8:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
bringonthecats — at — gmail dot com
Sorry, don’t want to clog up this thread with a tangent.
We'll carry the banner high!
Bring On The Cats
by TB on Apr 22, 2009 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Come on!
Clogging the threads might actually get some people to look at them! Please dish on the hawks! I know some of Kentucky’s ugly back history, some of KU’s would be nice especially considering they are getting the Henry brothers. If you are the backup plan after Coach Cal you must be able to make it rain a little.
by Rickyspub on Apr 22, 2009 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Buck Burnette did have some guidance
All of the football players were “encouraged” not to even have Facebook or MySpace pages, for obvious reasons. They were also told that if they did have such pages, the football staff would monitor them very regularly and that the players would be held accountable for whatever was on them. I personally think that is all that needs to be said. They aren’t in kindergarten. They don’t need a list of what they can and can’t post online.
OU telling their players what qualifies as a hobby or interest is ridiculous. What’s next? Are they are going to learn how to tie their shoes all by themselves?
by bassale47 on Apr 21, 2009 1:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
sorry, couldn't resist
OU’s list of approved hobbies/interests: firearms, YouTube rap videos, bar fighting, used car sales employment, Burlington coats, and assault with a deadly weapon.
by jc25 on Apr 21, 2009 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Selling Cocaine? nt
What if James Henry decided bitches didn’t need to be kicked?
by billb on Apr 21, 2009 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh no! Not educaaaaaaation!
“In the social networking policy, athletes are warned that their postings must comply with a code of conduct and can be punishable with eduction . . .” Awesome.
by BurntToACrisp on Apr 21, 2009 4:01 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Abuse of rights
Where are the lawyers on the site? No one has a problem with a college telling a segment of students, we control what you can and cannot say?
How is this not a violation of the first amendment since the college acts as an extension of government?
How is this not a violation of the 14th amendment since this policy applies only to some but not all students?
Finally, what legal standing does the college have to monitor non-employee’s behavior?
And none of you bothered by this action?
by milevin on Apr 21, 2009 6:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The reason the lawyers on this site (of which I am one) aren't bothered by it is because it's completely constitutional.
(1) They are monitoring OU-owned computers. Legal.
(2) They are mandating a code of conduct online for their students, just as every school has a code of conduct for its students. Same reason you can’t wear a shirt that says “Fuck” in high school. Legal.
(3) It doesn’t violate the 14th amendment for SO MANY reasons that aren’t worth listing, but here are two: (a) every department can have a different policy towards the people under its purview as long as it treats everyone under its authority the same; if the athletic department wants to institute a rule, it doesn’t have to make it applicable to the entire school; in fact, it doesn’t even have the authority to do that; that’s just common sense, man!, and (b) this rule is “rationally related” to a “legitimate government interest”, which is the standard used to determine if there is discrimination against a certain class of people that is not historically suspect for discrimination (and although “athletes” hasn’t been determined by the supreme court yet, I think I can guess where they’d come down).
If you personally don’t like it, that’s great. Write a letter. Fight the power, etc, etc. But it’s legal.
by billyzane on Apr 21, 2009 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
FLICK Off
Turns out there is an ecology program being promoted in Canadian schools called “Flick Off”. They pass out shirts for the kids to wear with the logo FLICK OFF.
Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.
by Caradoc on Apr 22, 2009 8:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Near to my HS was the 'Flick' theater...
The the ‘L’ and ‘I’ overlapped suggestively…add that to the fact you couldn’t tell what movies were actually showing in the theater, told you exactly what kind of movies they were showing.
by Rickyspub on Apr 22, 2009 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man I love College,
and I love drinking,
I love women
Man I love College
COACH BOOM BABY!!
by hookemkp on Apr 21, 2009 9:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hmmmm
Providing too much money to a football player to return home for the holidays because of an incorrect addressDid he claim he lived in Hawai’i?
Coach Bob Stoops and two assistants inadvertently visiting a recruit’s basketball game that had been rescheduled because of an ice storm;
How do you “inadvertently” visit a game that is rescheduled because of weather? It would be inadvertent if they went to the HS on the day it was originally scheduled, and saw that athlete there because the game wasn’t played. You have to willingly find out when a game is rescheduled and where to attend it; there is nothing inadvertent or accidental about that.
Stoops sending an impermissible text to a recruit when he thought he was sending an e-mail from his BlackBerry deviceStoops doesn’t know the difference between the text message function and the email program on his Blackberry?
Assistant coach Jackie Shipp taking a recruit to a restaurant he thought was on campusThe coaches don’t know what constitutes the OU campus and what doesn’t? Is it really that difficult to figure out?
I wonder what they are doing to cheat in women’s softball.
by Beergut on Apr 22, 2009 3:55 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son
Crystal Balls
by MMHorns on Apr 22, 2009 12:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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