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ESPN's Way Too Early Basketball Top 25

To dissect for funsies...

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Andy Katz: Texas at #3.

The Longhorns move up a spot because of the buzz surrounding newcomer Avery Bradley. He shot up to No. 1 on the ESPNU 100 rankings, and fellow incoming freshman Jordan Hamilton isn't far behind. If they're that good, the potential loss of Damion James to the draft won't be as crushing.

Katz also has Kansas #1, Oklahoma #12, and Texas A&M as a "team to watch."

Doug Gottlieb (Insider): Texas at #2.

The Longhorns' roster is stocked with talent even if Damion James keeps his name in the NBA draft and doesn't return to Austin. If somehow J'Covan Brown gets eligible, the Horns would have no flaws.

As it stands, incoming freshmen Jordan Hamilton and Avery Bradley and transfer Jai Lucas make Texas one of the most talented teams in the country and the team best-suited to push Kansas in the Big 12.

Gottlieb also has Kansas #1, Oklahoma #5, Texas A&M #16, Oklahoma State #21, and Kansas State #24. He also expects Iowa State to see a "major jump in wins from last season."

Fran Fraschilla (Insider), who knows a whole heck of a lot about the Big XII, didn't rank teams, but had this to say about Katz's and Gottlieb's rankings (Big XII pertinent).

Texas A&M

Andy's Take: Out of the top 25
My Take: The Big 12's third-most talented team is top-25 good

I know my good friend has the Aggies out of his top 25, pending the return of Donald Sloan, Chinemelu Elonu and Bryan Davis, who have declared for the NBA draft. Trust me, they are all returning and they'll give coach Mark Turgeon the foundation of his most talented team in three years at A&M. The loss of sharpshooter Josh Carter has been compensated for with the addition of two top-75 wing recruits, 6-foot-5 Naji Hibbert and 6-foot-7 Khris Middleton. Elonu, Davis and 6-foot-9 sophomore David Loubeau provide the Aggies with one of the most physical front lines in the Big 12 and the backcourt duo of Sloan and former high school teammate Derrick Roland could play linebacker for the Aggies.

Texas

Andy's Take: No. 3
Doug's Take: No. 2
My Take: A tad too high

On paper, this is one of the country's most talented teams. Rick Barnes has a front line that Longhorns football coach Mack Brown would envy. And one of my favorite incoming freshmen in the country, 6-foot-2 Avery Bradley, will have an immediate impact on what was Texas' Achilles' heel last season, the backcourt. He is a blur with the ball and will be instantly one of the nation's best defenders. In addition, Florida transfer Jai Lucas will be eligible at the end of the first semester. Here's the one problem: Without the departed A.J. Abrams, who will make perimeter jump shots consistently? The Longhorns will have to answer that if they want to make a run at Kansas and hang around the top five all season.

Oklahoma

Doug's Take: Oklahoma at No. 5
My Take: Not so fast!

Oklahoma's winning tradition has been very underrated through the years, despite the Sooners appearing in 27 postseason tournaments in 28 years. And Jeff Capel is certainly upholding that tradition. He has an excellent recruiting class to complement some key returnees. Here's the problem: Superman has just left the Lloyd Noble Center and has flown off to the NBA. Blake Griffin's dominance as a college player can't be understated and he'll be impossible to replace. The Sooners will be an NCAA team and hang around the top 25 all season, but if they are No. 5 at the end of the year, Capel will be getting another hefty raise.

Poll
Where should Texas rank in the initial top 25?
1 - National Championship or Bust!
57 votes
2 - I totally wanna pulse Doug Gottlieb!
16 votes
3 - Katz's never kloses!
28 votes
4 or lower - Did you know Dexter Pittman lost dang near 100 pounds? Coach Fran does.
47 votes

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“The Sooners will be an NCAA team and hang around the top 25 all season, but if they are No. 5 at the end of the year, Capel will be getting another hefty raise.”

God bless Fraschilla.

Texas- Top 10-15 team in my mind to start the season, top 5 is a little high

Texas A&M – Meh, they’ll be about as good as they were last year, dont believe the hype about the recruits they are pullin in

Oklahoma – I honestly see them as a top 18-25 to start the season and then falling out of the top 25 maybe towards the end of the year. if they stay in the top 25, IMO itll only be because of the name they made for themselves this year.. they wont contend for the big 12 title.. itll be texas v. kansas fo sho

Kansas – Next years UNC… #1 with a bullet

by greenspointexas on Apr 29, 2009 9:36 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

A little high.

I think we’ll be a top 5 team, but not at the beginning of the year. Much like Memphis two years ago, it took them a little while to find their rhythm, but once they (and most importantly Rose) did, they were a force.

Similarly, Jordan Hamilton hasn’t played in a league for over a year. AB will have to adjust some, and biggest of all, all of this talent has to gel. By tourney time, if this team gels and the recruits make the step to the college level well, we can win it all.

I also prefer starting off ranked a little lower, it typically means less pressure. Much like the Augustin team two years ago that was preseason 15 or so, and then shocked the nation with wins over Tennessee and UCLA.

"Like I said, I'm going to bleed orange until the day I die." -V.Y.

by 4th and 5 on Apr 29, 2009 12:17 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Agree with 4th about gellin

This team will have a lot of talent, if Pittman continues to develope, and the new guys come in and gel with the group we could go a long way.

We are also going to be deeper with high level talent than we have been in a while I think.

"A lot of people look for the easy way to do anything, in swimming there is no easy way." - Eddie Reese

P.S. 45-35

by SwimTexas on May 1, 2009 5:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Looking forward to Pittman

I’m definitely looking to see how much more weight Pittman is going to drop and how he improves.

I don’t think a 3 spot is justified for next season. It’s just too high up and sets up the team too high when it did not do as well as it could/should have (on paper at least). They were ranked 7th to start off the year, but then had to fight a little to make sure we could compete in the NCAA tourney. Hopefully next season we can improve to where this great team should be.

TEXAS FIGHT

by Darklust on May 4, 2009 4:35 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Another

Another top 25, this time from the highly regarded (by me, anyway) Luke Winn at SI.

Kansas at 1. Texas at 6. A&M at 24. Mizzou at 25.

His Texas write-up:

The ‘Horns weren’t in my original top 10; then I got another look at Avery Bradley and Jordan Hamilton last month and remembered how good they are. Top-20 recruits get hyped to death, but they aren’t all ready to contribute as freshmen (case in point: Ohio State’s B.J. Mullens was Rivals.com’s No. 1 last year, Tennessee’s Scotty Hopson was No. 5 and Wake Forest’s Ty Walker was No. 17). But I think Bradley, especially, can step into A.J. Abrams’ two-guard spot and score, albeit without the same shooting range; and Hamilton is a bullish small forward who can create his own shot. The ‘Horns’ perimeter offense was one-dimensional last season — Abrams was literally the only guard who could hit a three — whereas an eventual rotation of transfer Jai Lucas, Bradley, Justin Mason and Hamilton will be far more balanced.

by jc25 on May 6, 2009 1:51 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Sorry

OU at 10 as well.

by jc25 on May 6, 2009 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Big news from the Bluegrass

Cats get 5* commit Eric Bledsoe.

This locks down the PG piece to the Calipari puzzle. IF Calipari can get John Wall to commit, Kentucky’s class may go down as the greatest of all time. As it stands, it’s assuredly top 5 and still competing for #1.

Moreover, if Jodie Meeks and Patrick Patterson come back, you’re looking at a legit championship contender. Good times in the Commonwealth…

by jc25 on May 6, 2009 3:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I think Coach Cal is the epitome of all that is wrong with college basketball, but...

This is what an impact hire is supposed to look like in college sports! Even if they don’t get Wall, holy crap!

by Rickyspub on May 6, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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