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2004 and 2008: The setup to a national title run? Part 1:  Offense

Longhorn fans were already excited about the 2009 season even before 2008; after an unexpected 2008 run that nearly got us the national title a year earlier than we dared to hope, expectations are incredibly high for this fall.  Add to the fact that there are supposed parallels between 2004 and 2008, it's pretty much national championship or bust this season, in many people's eyes.

And the parallels are many and fun to talk about.  Like 2004, we had a one-loss season, losing in a close game to a rival.  We have a great quarterback who is a Heisman frontrunner for next season.  We defeated a Big 10 school in clutch fashion at a BCS bowl.  Next season, the national championship will be played at the Rose Bowl.  A team that has already been crowned the best is coming back to try to repeat as champions and they are beloved by the media.  We have many starters returning.  We have an exciting new defensive coordinator (although in his second year now) that comes from Auburn.  Greg Davis seems to have figured out an offense to fit the skills of our quarterback.  And so on and so forth.  It seems the stars are aligned for the Longhorns to hold the crystal ball again.

However, I want to look more at the two teams themselves rather than the circumstances.  I want to see where 2004 had question marks and how they answered them en route to that legendary finish at the Rose Bowl, and I want to compare that to where our current team has question marks.  I also want to compare their strengths and the roadblocks along the way.  This is not going to be some super in-depth football analysis, which is probably beyond me anyway; I am just curious to see how each team compares both statistically and stylistically.

Small request:  Hopefully somebody less lazy than me can do a statistical analysis using The Boy's (from Rock M Nation) method, which would be way more interesting and useful than this :).

I'll start with the offenses. 

Quarterbacks:

 


Vince Young Colt McCoy
Comp. 148 332
Att. 250 433
Comp% 59.2 76.7
Yards 1849 3859
YPA 7.4 8.9
TD 11 34
INT 12 8
Rating 128.37 173.74
Rush Att. 167 136
Rush Yds. 1079 561
YPC 6.46 4.13
Rush TD 14 11

 

This doesn't really tell us anything new.  Colt is the better passer, Vince is the better runner (duh).  I don't think Vince's numbers are bad except for his TD-Int ratio, which is roughly 1-1 while Colt has an outstanding 4-1 ratio.   Colt does better in every single category and by a large margin, although he did have the luxury of having better receivers. 

The biggest difference between these two situations is the maturity level of each QB.  Vince was still viewed as raw and as possessing a lot of unfulfilled potential at the end of 2004.  Colt, however, is now viewed as a very mature college QB who is not expected to do much more than he did (in fact, many people expect him to do slightly worse, numbers-wise).  The huge question mark for the Horns in 2004 revolved around Vince's arm and if he could improve his passing, while Colt has already seemed to answer his critics.  Vince sure answered his the following year; he upped his comp% to 65%, he improved his TD-Int ratio to better than 2-1, and he became the first and only player to pass for 3000 yards and rush for 1000. 

What does this mean?  On the one hand, we sure feel good that we have one of the best college players in the game quarterbacking our team.  On the other hand, we certainly cannot expect a jump that we saw from Vince from 2004 to 2005, since we, well, arguably just saw it this season for Colt from 2007 to 2008.  It depends on what you want, I guess; before 2005, we were uncertain with Vince's passing but excited with the possibilities, knowing that an other-worldly talent like him would be simply unstoppable if his passing game matured (which it did, and he was).  With Colt, we are very comfortable with him, but we also have a good idea of what he can and can't do.  That's not saying he can't improve; I'm sure he will, particularly in the downfield passing game, but we're not thinking, "If only Colt does this, he'll be an unstoppable freak of nature."

Nonetheless, we have to feel pretty darn good with this position; I'm not expecting Colt to have the numbers he did this season, since I hope a dip in his completion % means our downfield passing game has matured and I hope our RB's can take a load off his shoulders.  But we have one of the best college QB's hands down, and while the situations differ between 2004 and 2005, the strength of this position will similarly give us a great chance to win it all.  Although it would be nice if Colt did not have to be our leading rusher next season...

Runningbacks

 


Benson McGee Ogbonnaya Whittaker Johnson 2008 Total
Attempts 326 88 74 64 75 301
Yards 1834 376 373 284 335 1368
YPC 5.63 4.27 5.04 4.44 4.47 4.54
TD 19 4 4 0 12 20

 

This is a difficult comparison because, like we all know, we had no feature back this past season.  So it's pretty much four against Cedric Benson... and Benson still wins.  He gained nearly 500 yards more than all of them combined, took 25 more carries, averaged over a yard more per carry, and nearly scored as many touchdowns.  At the very least, we know Chris O. was a much better receiver than Benson ever was.  However, add Vince Young to the equation, and we can see that 2004 had a very potent rushing offense, as it would continue to be in 2005.

The obvious question mark from '04 to '05 was that Benson was one of the key departures from that 2004 team.  We lose only Ogbonnaya this season, and while his contributions were unique and much appreciated, it's not like his production as a runner is hard to replace.  In that regard, we do not have as big of a departure to deal with, but neither do we have a monster like Vince Young or gamebreakers like Ramonce Taylor returning.

Interestingly enough, 2005 solved the lack of a feature back problem with a similar runningback by committee, but it was far more successful than what we saw this past season.  While our rush offense was more spread out, it didn't miss much of a beat with Vince Young leading and Charles would have had over 1000 yards had he not hurt his ankle.

Despite us not losing anyone of the caliber of Cedric Benson, 2009's rushing attack if far more of a question mark than 2005's.  I think we will have to continue this committee approach, and it will be interesting to see if we can have more success.  Like 2005, we have a freshmen RB coming in that we are curious about, and we are hopeful Whaley can do what Charles did his freshman season.  If not, while I do not believe it is realistic to expect a rush offense anything like 2005's, I am cautiously optimistic that we will see significant improvement here.  I'm putting my money on McGee (sorry, not the mythical Fozzy creature) to earn most of the carries unless Whaley comes in and surprises everyone.

Of course, many people will point to the offensive line as the big reason why these rushing attacks are so different.  I'll look briefly at them.

Offensive Line

I won't say much here, but like 2004, we will be returning most of our offensive line.  Unlike that team, our offensive line is not as decorated.  We have a good pass-blocking line but our problems in the run game are well-documented.

I don't remember any major questions concerning our offensive line going into the 2005 season; our OL was always talked about as a great strength of our team.  This season, while we are comfortable with our O-line, we also have a lot of reservations.  In this regard, we unfortunately don't seem to be on the level of 2004, as Benson's superior numbers above obviously have to be partially credited to the offensive line.  BUT, we are returning everyone except Dockery, which hopefully counts for something.  We have some guys who haven't had the success we expected of them thus far, and hopefully we will see a big jump there.

Wide Receivers/TE

2004

 

Tony Jeffery David Thomas Bo Scaife Limas Sweed
Rec. 33 25 26 23
Yards 437 430 348 263
YPR 13.24 17.2 13.38 11.43
TD 3 5 2 0

 

2008

 

Quan Cosby Jordan Shipley Brandon Collins Malcolm Williams
Rec 92 89 35 17
Yards 1123 1060 430 304
YPR 12.21 11.91 12.29 17.88
TD 10 11 3 3

 

As the rushing stats are lopsided to favor 2004, so are the receiving stats.  Quan Cosby nearly outdoes the top 4 receivers in 2004 by himself, and his stats are basically matched by Shipley's.  It's similar to the RB situation in 2004 in that we lose a great player in Quan Cosby but nonetheless have less of a question mark than 2005 did in this area.  The '05 team lost only Tony Jeffery, but nobody knew who would step up.  We just lost Quan Cosby but we have Collins and Kirkendoll to go along with the obvious return of Jordan Shipley.

There is one similar situation, and that is Malcolm Williams and Limas Sweed.  Neither did a whole lot in their first season despite showing flashes of potential.  Both are big, tall receivers who can leap after the ball and beat defenders deep.  If Williams can progress as Sweed did, I'll be happy.  I know many people (strangely, to me) are very critical of Sweed, but when the guy was healthy, I don't think anyone can doubt he was a very dangerous deep threat that was very productive.  Williams progression can mean wonders for this offense and maybe even help out our run game as he stretches the field.

However, while this past year's team had far superior receiver production, we have to unfortunately take a look at the tight ends.  The 2004 team had both Thomas and Scaife, and while Scaife was to leave, Thomas came back and had a great year in 2005.  With the loss of Irby, we had atrocious TE play and we still have no idea who is going to step into that role since Irby is unlikely to come back until much later.  For a coordinator who loves to use his TE like Davis, this is a BIG difference between our team going into 2009 and 2004 going into 2005.

Conclusion

Let's break it down like this:

2004 to 2005 strengths:

Great O-line
Freak of nature QB
Good tight end
Big play threats (like Ramonce)

2008 to 2009 strengths

Strong pass blocking
Robo QB
Strong receiving corps.

2004 to 2005 question marks:

WR production:  Answered; Billy Pittman and Limas Sweed stepped up, and we even had Ramonce Taylor.
Vince Young's passing:  Answered; led the NCAA in passing efficiency up until the bowl season
Replacing Cedric Benson:  Answered; VY was VY, and Charles had a great freshman year and Taylor also contributed here

2008 to 2009 question marks:

RB production:  We have experienced backs and a talented freshmen coming in.  I'm hopeful.  Finding a 3rd down back to replace Chris O. will be tough, but I think that is less important than finding more consistent rushing production.
OL run-blocking:  Again, experienced guys coming back and an emphasis on the run game in the spring.  Hopeful again.
TE:  Uh... troubled.  We'll see on this one; hopefully Matthews is ready to step in.
Replacing Cosby:  I'm very optimistic about Malcolm Williams, and Shipley and the others have the quickness to sometimes go deep or turn a short pass into a long gain.

We are different animals; one was primarily a rush offense that was more opportunistic in the passing game in looking for big plays, while the other is a controlled passing offense.  However, I like how our team looks; any championship team needs to answer its critics and fill the holes in its game.  Sometimes, Longhorn fans look back on that 2005 team like it was just perfect and made that way, but it too had legitimate question marks going into that season that it had to find ways to answer.  When I look at the uncertainties on this team, I'm mostly optimistic that we have the tools to deal with them.  And that's why my departing wisdom to my younger peers as I graduate is that they need to go get season tickets and prepare for an exciting fall. 

Because of Superman wearing #10, it seems the potential for that 2005 team was far greater than what we have now, but I like our #12 and the steadiness he brings, and if he has anywhere near the season he had in 2008, we will be right in the thick of things.  I think the offenses are actually pretty different, but we have enough similarities in returning starters and in quarterback leadership that I am comfortable with the comparisons going beyond the amusing circumstantial ones listed at the beginning.

I'll try to look at defenses later, which will probably have less to do with numbers.

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Good stuff, Shadow. Gets me thinking (not easy to do)

I’d say TE was great going into 2005, not just good. That season’s line was better than the one we’ll field in 2009 (similar experience, better skill — notably Justin Blaylock).

The ‘05 running game was Selvin Young, and Charles, and Melton on short yardage and, after some bruises, Taylor wsa moved from WR and had his moments, That year’s RBs were no better than what’s on campus now. None of those ’05 RBs had done much, and only SYoung had appreciable game experience (and he missed most of ’04 with a leg injury).

The 2005 offense, at the outset, was grab-bag, with unproven receivers (Pittman, Cosby, Carter) and almost totally unproven running backs. But the line was beastly, and the QB was kinda special.

I think there are plenty of big play threats for ‘09, ample depth at WR and in the line; really at RB, too, with the fervent hope that somebody seizes the starting job. . . Honestly, I don’t worry a lot about the offense as long as No. 12 stays on the field. We’ve seen the talent, there’s tons of experience and I believe there are some players ready — and plenty capable — to step up their performance levels.

by edsp on May 11, 2009 5:38 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Just happened to have watched

“the” Rose Bowl game and last/this year’s Tostito’s Bowl this morning/afternoon (seriously jonesing for football). I really like the multi-faceted approach our current offense can have, keep ‘em guessing. It’s hard to compare to having a Superman like VY, but I think Colt with a ton of options can be just as devastating to an opposing defense. I know your lengthy article focused on offense, but quite frankly it is our defense that is the bigger question mark by far. Muschamp is awesome, but our secondary has a LONG way to go to compare to the Championship squad. Thanks for your article. Pardon my grammar, etc. I drank too much beer today.

by bfaut86 on May 11, 2009 6:31 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

there are a ton of parallels

04 and 08 both reached BCS Bowls.
04 and 08 both won said bowl in thrilling fashion
05 and 09 both were (or will almost certainly be) preseason #2
The Championship Game was or will be held in Pasadena
The opponent or likely opponent will be hailed as one of the greatest teams of all time (USC, Florida)
We played ULL in our 2005 opener. We will also play them in our 2009 opener.
This one is kind of a reach, but: Texas Tech had a new QB both years (Cody Hodges, Taylor Potts)

It goes on and on.
I think it’s meant to be.

Ian Johnson gets on one knee.
Sam Bradford gets on both.

by acho81 on May 11, 2009 9:14 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Actually, we open

with UL-Monroe (but close enough for government work) . . . as for USC, have you looked at what was lost to the NFL draft and the Trojans’ 2009 road schedule?

by edsp on May 11, 2009 9:50 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

USC reloads with 5 star players.

"Football's so important in Texas. On the West Coast, it's a social. On the East Coast, it's a culture. Here, it's a religion."
-- Major Applewhite

by Sunkist on May 12, 2009 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no i said that we would probably play florida

Ian Johnson gets on one knee.
Sam Bradford gets on both.

by acho81 on May 12, 2009 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know we can't quite bring ourselves to do it

but we should consider that John Chiles at least poses the possibility of game-changing speed and matchup difficulties for opposing teams.

by burnt in ny on May 12, 2009 10:25 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You forgot..

A God was redshirting that year. And so it will be this year. :)

by BurnOut78 on May 12, 2009 10:46 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

another big difference...

the 05 team was just downright explosive. Think back on just how many one or two-play scoring drives they had. They’d get a turnover and go straight for the throat.

Very, very different from the ball-control style of last year’s team. Part of that, I’m convinced, is that in 05 we had much greater confidence in the defense. Last year, I think long, sustained drives as opposed to taking big shots down the field were by design – we tried to run the clock, just with short passes instead of a pounding run attack. Looking forward to this year, I’m hoping that not only will Malcolm Williams provide a consistent deep threat, and not only will someone step up as a gamebreaker type (Hales, maybe?), but that our defense, particularly the secondary, does not need to be ‘protected’, but will be a weapon in and of itself…

by Pflash on May 18, 2009 10:53 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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