Morning Coffee Has Linebackers On the Mind
Corey Nelson: the only news is no news. Recent updates on Corey Nelson have only served to confirm the long-standing notion that there will be little in the way of news from Nelson or anyone around him. Nelson reiterated that fact on Monday ($), saying that when he makes a decision, it will be a surprise to everyone. In other words, whatever rumors emerge in the next several months about where he is going are probably false.
As for the most recent list of schools under consideration, Nelson lists Texas, OU, Texas A&M, LSU, Stanford, Texas Tech, and OSU. A lot of recent reports have had Texas A&M out near the front, but Nelson claims that there is no current leader. Hard to say where the seven schools named by Nelson really stand. And don't expect that to change any time soon.
Stoopsy coveting his neighbor's linebacker. Early commitments are the rage in college football and the Longhorns are at the forefront of the trend. However, a major concern is that players making early decisions might be more susceptible to advances from other programs. Garland linebacker Tevin Jackson sounds solid with his commitment to Texas ($), but he is still receiving plenty of attention, including from that program to the north of the Red River. That's right, the artist formerly known as "Big-Game Bob" is trying to shark the Texas commit, continuing to send emails and letters to Jackson, along with Ole Miss and Texas Tech.
Beyond ignoring the advances of other programs, Jackson is spending the spring adding bulk (he's up to 220) and improving several aspects of his game:
I'm working on speed, agility, trying to be more of a balanced linebacker. It's a lot of work on technique. I'm trying to be better in coverage. I think I have good run stopping and pass rushing abilities, so I want to balance it out.
Indeed, Jackson does have good pass-rushing abilities, registering six sacks as a junior among his 85 tackles. Sounding like the Longhorns' pass-rushing linebacker, Jackson had this to say about the future of his 2009 opponents:
I want to kill whoever comes my way in an opposite jersey.
The next Predator, perhaps? Muschamp certainly plans on giving Jackson a chance at the "Buck" position and I have a feeling that Jackson will exceed his 2008 sack total -- I'm going with 10 or more in 2009.
On the radar: Aaron Franklin. As much as the Longhorns would love to secure commitments from guys like Darius White, Lache Seastrunk, and Jackson Jeffcoat, the only remaining glaring need is at linebacker, where the Longhorns have offers out to Corey Nelson and Jordan Hicks. Though neither one is expected to make a decision soon, if another offer goes out for 2010 it will undoubtedly be extended to a linebacker.
The foremost name on the list right now is a relatively new one -- Marshall's Aaron Franklin, an outside linebacker in the mold of Corey Nelson with better size at 6-1, 218 pounds. An excellent student who missed 2008 with an ACL tear, Franklin ran a 4.44 40 during his rehabilitation ($) and consistently clocks times in the low 4.5s. He's plenty fast and isn't quite as much of a tweener as Corey Nelson or some of the other 2010 linebackers, but he will definitely need to add some bulk before he contributes in college.
Since the offer sheet is always a good place to gain an understanding of how top programs perceive a recruit, Franklin has offers from Oklahoma, LSU, Oklahoma State, Arkansas, Oregon, and Texas A&M -- if quality offers makes a prospect legitimate, Franklin certainly passes that test.
Will Muschamp is reportedly visiting Marshall this week to scout Franklin himself. If Muschamp likes what he sees enough for the coaching staff to approve Franklin for an offer, the question is if he receives an offer before or after Hicks and Nelson make a decision. The Marshall product isn't planning on making a decision until later in the process, but Texas has not been a program mentioned as being in contact with him -- it's unclear how much he likes Texas and if he would consider it an affront that he hasn't received more attention at this point. His current top five ($) includes Texas A&M, Oklahoma, Baylor, TCU and Oklahoma State.
Cedar Park's Moss may be best 2011 linebacker. There's still a lot of time left in the evaluation process, but if an offer from SMU ($) 21 months before he will sign a LOI is any indication, Moss will be pursued by every program in the region. He's already made seven unofficial visits in an attempt to establish early relationships with the colleges he might want to attend after bursting onto the scene as a sophomore by recording 62 tackles and three sacks in seven games.
As he mentions in interviews ($), Moss is well aware how blessed he is to have the combination of size and speed that he possesses at 6-1 and 230 pounds, while having the capability of running a 40 in the 4.55 range. No worries about being a tweener with Moss. It's that combination that makes him so special and why he will be so widely pursued when the 2011 recruiting process gets into full swing early next year.
Moss also has a close connection to the program, as his father played at Rice when Mad Dog was the S&C coach there. In addition, Texas has received a commitment from Dom Espinosa, who plays with Moss as Cedar Park, and will be pursuing another member of the 2011 class, offensive lineman Spencer Drango. Georgia Tech, Oklahoma State, and Stanford are among the programs pursuing Moss the hardest right now, but the Longhorns do seem to have a special place in his heart.
Chet Moss CPHS linebacker sophomore (via 13flyfishing)
Lindley, Hocutt on the radar, Jackson off. The watch list ($) for 2011 linebackers is a relatively short one at this point with only five names. As far as the Longhorns are concerned, one of those names is no longer in play, as Kirbyville's Stefan Jackson is no longer enrolled at the school amid rumors of disciplinary actions taken against the outside linebacker. Among the other names still on the list are Round Rock Stony Point's PL Lindley and Killeen Ellison's Devin Hocutt.
There isn't much information out there about Lindley except for the fact that he played some wide receiver as a freshman and his measurements -- 6-3, 195 pounds. Lindley's combination of height and relatively light weight means that he has some work to do in the weight room before he's ready for college, though it's hard to tell without pictures what type of frame he has.The lack of information is probably related to his varsity playing time as a sophomore -- he only saw action in three games.
At this point in time, comparisons to Rashad Bobino will probably not endear a player to Longhorn fans. Yet, that is probably the easiest comparison to Killeen Ellison's Devon Hocutt, a 5-11, 245-pound linebacker known as a physical presence on the field ($). Like Lindley, Hocutt didn't see extensive varsity action, making 34 tackles in five games, though it was enough to lead the team in tackles (perhaps Max Preps doesn't have the stats for the whole year).
His frame certainly supports those characterizations, as Hocutt already physically looks like a college player, certainly made easier by his small stature. His size is an obvious drawback, but he isn't just as run stuffer, as his weight might suggest -- he reportedly has the hips and flexibility to turn and run with receivers and tight ends in coverage, a necessity to eventually gain a Texas offer. Despite those characterizations, his 40 speed is not the most impressive, listed as a 4.8 on his Rivals page. At his size, the question is whether Hocutt will remain at linebacker or switch positions.
Like virtually every major 2011 prospect besides Chris Barnett, Hocutt has always loved the Longhorns despite interest in Iowa State, Notre Dame, Oregon, Oklahoma, TCU and Texas A&M.
Since 2011 isn't shaping up as a strong class for linebackers in the state, the Longhorns need to make sure that they get 3-4 commitments in the deep 2010 class, since Moss may be the only true difference maker in the state. Looking out of state may also be necessary, though the Longhorns are famously reticent in that area and prefer to have a prior connection with the recruit. Given that set of criteria, there isn't anyone yet on the radar.
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True LBers
Roy – what do you think is a good weight for a true LB enrolling at Texas, and what do you think the ideal weight range is.
It seems we have taken so many guys in recent years that were either tweeners, that never found a position (Redwine, Smith, Brown) or grew into a DE (Robison, Kindle, maybe D. Johnson).
I see a soph. LB like Moss that is already 230 and there just doesn’t seem like any chance he stays at LB, especially in the current age of the spread offense.
I think it depends on the position in terms of weight
and I think it’s also changing because the Longhorns spent a lot of time with only two linebackers on the field last year. It would probably be hard for a guy to play at 210 or 215. I think the major factor on the high end is if a guy can retain his speed, other than that, if a guy could run the 4.6 that he did in high school at 260 pounds, then fine. That probably isn’t very likely, but I guess it could happen.
It’s hard to say with Moss. I think the major thing with him as I mentioned above is maintaining his speed — he doesn’t need to add weight just to add weight. Maybe something like yoga would almost be better for him than some serious weightlifting.
Much more concerned with Hocutt than with Moss, as Moss has room on his frame, but Hocutt may be close to maxing out physically from the look of his frame. He can still probably add weight, but he might end us as a fullback or defensive tackle and he would be a very undersized defensive tackle — like Ben Alexander undersized.
by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on May 19, 2009 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions
I almost spit out my drink when I read this
I think the major factor on the high end is if a guy can retain his speed, other than that, if a guy could run the 4.6 that he did in high school at 260 pounds, then fine.
260? That’s a small DE, not a LB. If you have a 260 lb linebacker on the field, at MLB or any other position, expect the opposing OC to pass to the TB and slot receivers right in his area, b/c he won’t be fast enough to cover either of them.
In this era of spread offenses, I think your biggest linebacker is going to be 250 lbs, max, and more likely 245 lbs in the middle.
On the low end, you might see some guys at 225, but that is probably your lightest linebackers. 215 lbs is just begging opposing guards to steamroll you.
I think that’s actually pretty inaccurate. 225lbs. is not particularly undersized in major college football. Heck, Nick Barnett wasn’t much bigger than that coming out of college, and he went in the first round. Jordon Dizon was 225lbs. or so. Dan Connor, 230lbs. Xavier Adibi and Ernie Sims, roughly the same. And all those numbers should be graded on the curve, as is typical with posted weights in sports, and even if you were to look at the only known accurate weights for most of these (from their combine measurements), those would generally be higher than their actual playing weights prior to bulking up for the scouts. I could go on for quite a while with a list of linebackers, inside or outside, who have played major college football at 225lbs. or less.
by burntorangehorn on May 20, 2009 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks as always, Ghost
You’ve done great at providing discussion fodder the last several months; look how much response you got on the Darius White piece in just a few hours.
As to linebackers, I’ve stopped worrying about the number of commitments — for this reason. I don’t think of three starting LBers anymore, but two. Mack Brown will probably have his PR wing list a standard 4-3-4 alignment on the school’s website; reality is that the most-used, and most important, personnel package will be a 4-2-5. School can list Sergio Kindle as a LB; where’s he’ll play is end . . . his linebacker replacement will, in fact, be a fifth DB (Christian Scott?).
Thus, the linebacker rotation for this and succeeding seasons won’t need to number five or so (three starters, two top-level subs) but three or four (two starters). And the recruting focal points need to be (and already are) DBs by the boatload and pass rushers with enough bulk to line up as defensive ends. Nelson or Hicks? Sure, I hope so. I hope both wear orange. But I don’t think LB is a critical need in terms of numbers.
I think you make a good point about linebacker numbers
I think the concern for the coaches, and you saw some of this during the spring, is getting into a situation against a big, bruising running back in a bowl game and not being able to defend it. That’s the reason you take a guy like Tariq Allen, even though he might not have a place on the field against a lot of spread teams. It’s always difficult to tell how long something like the spread will last — it could be close to another decade, or teams could see an advantage by going back to I-formation attacks or triple option attacks.
Remember as well that the Longhorns lose three linebackers (including Kindle) this year, so there need to be some replacements with only a few guys on the roster (Earnest, Allen, Acho, Robinson, possibly Roberson, and Nkwopara) and only two committed for 2010. Even with the reduced need, I think there is some concern about pure numbers.
Thanks for the compliment, though, just trying to help people through the off-season!
by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on May 19, 2009 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Valid point on facing the occasional
old-style, power attack. But that won’t happen overnight; it’ll evolve, as the spread attacks have.
UT’s defensive problem in 2006-07 was NOT ADJUSTING to the Tech and Mizzouri style offenses sooner (that’s on Mack, Chizik, maybe Akina), employing Kindle and Muckelroy earlier in their careers and getting more out of Drew Kelson (though injuries held him back). That would have reduced the Killebrew-style embarrassments.
The solution to big-enough LBers may already be on campus: Roberson, Dravannti Johnson, Earnest (for one year beyond this one) . . . also, there are some young players with the general size desired for old-style linebackers (several TEs, not all of whom will stay at that position), a smallish DE like Carter, a safety with the frame to bulk up).
The game has been moving toward passing sets and emphasis for 20, 30 years; I don’t expect to see a move back to fullback-, tailback-oriented offenses.
Great stuff as always, GoBR.
Your recruiting work breaks up what would be an otherwise long off season. (Well that and Longhorn baseball) I really like the fact that Mack and Co are not just waiting around on the linebacker class to fill up. It is nice to see them still pursuing suitable replacements who will fit nicely into the scheme and can be contributors on the field.
From what I have been able to find on Franklin, he also runs track at Marshall (100 & 200). This is a good indication that he has good speed. Also, Marshall plays in a district that is pretty deep (Texas High, Longview, Sulpher Springs, Mt. Pleasant) so level of competition should not be a concern.
When Muschamp arrives in Marshall, he will be happy to see the El Chico and Big Lots are open and ready for his business.
Would there be space for Franklin? With 21 commitments already, and nine reportedly still on the table (if one includes Peterson, Cobb, and Nelson), the chances of offering a scholarship to Franklin might not be great right now. I could certainly be wrong, but I’m guessing that the coaches are really looking at him for if the news isn’t positive when Seastrunk, White, Jeffcoat, etc. all make their decisions. Then again, it might only take negatives from Hicks and Nelson to initiate an offer to Franklin. Think the staff might discuss the option of a greyshirt if a scholarship doesn’t end up opening up?
by burntorangehorn on May 19, 2009 7:04 PM CDT reply actions
I think the coaches understand they have to be a little careful
offering a guy like Franklin right now because he could well commit and, as you say, not leave a spot open for another guy. Clearly, what the coaches have to weigh is the likelihood of him committing soon and taking a needed spot or he could make a decision before Hicks or Nelson or any of the others make a decision. As you say, a greyshirt might be an option, particularly if the coaches don’t love the linebackers they see in 2011, which could be the case. I can’t say I know what the coaches will do or even should do, but it will be interesting to watch and see what happens.
by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on May 20, 2009 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions
on Moss
His technique is good, he is a very well-coached player.
He uses his hands well, and is able to work off blocks well.
He struggles in pass protection, though.
He needs to get someone else to make a highlight video for him; some of those plays shouldn’t have been on the video, b/c they aren’t highlights.
Hocutt
Good Morning ,
The information posted on max preps is incorrect. Hocutt played in all the games and he led the team in tackles.Devon recieved the Defensive New Comer Of the year even though he started on varisty his frsh. year. His height is 6’1 and he runs a 4.5 in the forty.
P.L. Lindley
Here is a few more tidbits on P.L. Lindley OLB at Stony Point High. The 4.71 forty was timed when he was a freshman at Stony Point High. During the football spring testing period he was timed at 4.54 in the forty. During this year track season he ran a consistent 22.7 in the 200meters. As a sophomore this past season he started every game and was second on the team in tackles. He loves the thought of maybe one day playing for the Longhorns. Here is a link to his Highlights of the past 2008 season.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voxxFGxeyTU
P.L. Lindley
I left off that he is 6’3 210 now.

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