Freshman Contributors: Garrett Gilbert
Setting the stage
In 2009, freshman quarterback Garrett Gilbert won't contribute in the same way that Barrett Matthews could contribute in helping the first-team offense win games -- for Gilbert, it's more about laying a foundation for taking over in 2010. Mack Brown has made it abundantly clear that he regrets not playing Colt McCoy as a true freshman, setting up the overly conservative game plan and loss at home to Ohio State in 2007. The propensity of Brown and company to retreat into "let's not lose the game mode" on offense was a constantly nagging factor leading to Brown's reputation for having an inability to win big games. The handling of Garrett Gilbert in the fall is a perfect opportunity to manifest those learnings though major philosophical adjustments.
Avoiding past mistakes
Long-winded ground setting aside, there's a difference between meaningful and meaningless snaps. Sorry, there's still some more ground setting: The "Lightning" package in 2007 lead by John Chiles and the second-team unit was conceived, but never made a priority until the Holiday Bowl rolled around. Abortive, just like the "Q" package the following season. That's 0-for-2 in attempting to develop John Chiles.
In two seasons at quarterback, those "Lightning" package plays were the only meaningful snaps Chiles received. Everything else was designed to run out the clock in terms of play-calling, with Chiles often pressing trying to make something happen in an effort to earn more playing time. How productive is it for the potential future starting quarterback and the head coach/offensive coordinator to have different goals late in blowouts?
If the Longhorns want to be competitive in 2010, like BCS bowl competitive, which should be the goal even in a re-loading season ("re-building" isn't in the vocabulary), Gilbert must receive the meaningful snaps in his first season that Chiles never received in his two years.
What are "meaningful snaps?" A meaningful snap is a snap with the intention of picking up maximum yardage, scoring more points. It's about "game" repetitions, not shepherding the clock and opposing coaches feelings to an end that keeps the opponent from feeling too bad about themselves.
The Plan
Gilbert needs work during games with the group of players he will be playing with throughout his career. Colt McCoy won't need a ton of repetitions to stay sharp in the fall, so designate a group of players with eligibility after 2009 to form a unit with whom Gilbert will get game reps. Players like Malcolm Williams, Brandon Collins, James Kirkendoll, DJ Grant, John Chiles, DeSean Hales -- rapport with the receiving corps is more important than other positions and takes longer to build.
Use Gilbert and his unit (the "G-Unit?") early in games during the non-conference season, even against Texas Tech. For Chiles and the "Lightning" package, it was roughly every third series. That works. Consider attempting to actually run the offense Gilbert will be in charge of in 2010 instead of killing the clock when sitting on a big lead. If the human pollsters proved one thing last season it was a fascination with major offensive output. What good did it do to score only 49 points against the Aggies when the Sooners were dropping 60+ on everyone and the pollsters were sprouting gigantic boners as a result?
Going undefeated and making it to Pasadena are the ultimate goals of the 2009 season and will probably necessarily go hand-in-hand, but the biggest tertiary goal of the season is helping Gilbert gain confidence and experience entering his sophomore season. If the Longhorns do run more high-tempo, no-huddle offense in 2009 and envision that as the future, Gilbert needs experience getting up to the line of scrimmage and getting plays off quickly.
Whither the Gilbert offense?
Any time the offense changes quarterbacks, it's look must change correspondingly, even if the change is more evolution than revolution. To that end, answering the following questions becomes a high priority: How much can Gilbert run the zone read? The offenses of Rich Rodriguez and Urban Meyer demonstrate that adding the option to the spread is one of the most effective ways of running the football without a fullback. If the zone-blocking scheme doesn't make progress in 2009, how will the Longhorns run the football if they stay in a predominantly 11-personnel shotgun spread? Can Gilbert run the zone read at all? Will the passing game continue to rely on short, high-percentage passes? What about the tempo?
Once again, the formula is simple -- get Gilbert meaningful snaps and the 2010 Longhorn offense should be able to hit the ground running before Big 12 play starts. It isn't necessarily about contributing in 2009, but putting Gilbert in the best position to succeed when he takes over for Colt McCoy. To answer the questions posed above, Gilbert should focus on specific areas of improvement:
- Throwing the deep ball - Gilbert significantly cut his interceptions from his junior year, 11 to 6. However, after watching Gilbert against Dripping Springs and Westlake, the decrease may somewhat be a result of better decision-making, but also a function of opposing defenders generally lacking ball skills. that was the case on several throws in the two games I was able to watch. Supporting that theory is the percentage of his interceptions that he threw in the playoffs -- 50%, in a fraction of the attempts. Even looking at his highlights, Gilbert would often heave great parabolas downfield off his back foot and let his receivers go make plays on the ball. High school throws to the max. Gilbert will have Malcolm Williams in the prime of his career -- as a junior and senior, so throwing the deep ball will have a bigger role in the offense than 2008, if Gilbert improves his footwork and flattens out his throws a bit to decrease hang time.
- Maximizing his speed and explosiveness - Colt McCoy is now faster and more explosive than he was when he arrived at Texas. Garrett Gilbert needs to be faster and more explosive in 2010 than he is right now. The positive is that everyone around Gilbert says that he's a hard worker. After picking up so many yards on the ground in the playoffs, I felt much more confident about his ability to run the football in college, but after watching a my man-crush JW Walsh, I've tempered by expectations. Granted, that may be a big of an overreaction, especially because Gilbert's athleticism will always be somewhat sneaky because of his size. He doesn't exactly cover ground like Vince Young, but he does cover a lot of ground with each stride because of his 6-4 (possibly closer to 6-5) height. A lot of the skill position guys work with speed trainers, which may be a good idea for Gilbert. The easiest piece of advice -- just do whatever Colt did.
- Making college-level throws - In high school, where the defensive backs are generally small and not that fast, it's easy for talented quarterbacks to get into bad habits throwing the ball into coverage and letting the receiver make a play on it. Gilbert is as guilty of this as any quarterback and needs the opportunity to adjust to the college-level speed of the game before 2010. Fortunately for the Longhorns, even if Gilbert never receives the prescribed work, he will be facing an excellent secondary in practice that will help him make the adjustment.
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Great post Roy.
Gilbert is going to be a beast!
God College Football needs to come back, and fast. I’m having serious withdraws!
I was hoping for "The Grapes"
"From the waist down, Earl Campbell has the biggest legs I have ever seen on a running back." -John Madden
by run Bevo run on May 28, 2009 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions
This is your opinion of sportsmanship?
It’s about “game” repetitions, not shepherding the clock and opposing coaches feelings to an end that keeps the opponent from feeling too bad about themselves.
Ignoring that there are many other reasons beyond the opponent’s feelings for not continuing to run a hurry up pass heavy offense when you are in a commanding lead, this is your opinion of sportsmanship?
Yes.
It’s one thing to leave the starters in until late in the fourth quarter like Bob Stoops likes to do and completely different to play every snap with the best interests of your future in mind. The point isn’t to run up the score, which pollsters actually seem to like and an argument could be made that not doing so against the Aggies last year hurt the Longhorns a little bit — rather, the point is to make sure that the future at quarterback is ready to play in 2010. How does it do Gilbert any good if the only experience he gets as a freshman is handing the ball off to Cody Johnson in the fourth quarter of blowouts? What happens in 2010 when we play OU and he just isn’t ready for the big-time like Colt McCoy wasn’t in 2006?
by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on May 27, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Colt beat OU in 2006
And putting the loss to tOSU squarely on Colts shoulders is an oversimplification at best.
This is the same discussion we had last year, the play for the future or the play for now.
And always, always always always do you play for now. If putting GG in increases our chances of losing any game by any amount he rides the pine until the game is in a situation to where he doesnt.
Taking a Senior Colt out every third series would be even more of a travesty than taking out a Junior Colt was this year to stagnate our offense with the Q. Screw that. The goal is to win the game, every game, every time. Colt should play until we are sure we can’t lose. Then put in GG.
If its at a point where that means he hands the ball off every first and second down, so be it. He has 3 more years to throw passes. Maybe the first series he comes in we keep in the rest of the first team offense, and he tries to score a TD, but don’t take Colt out unless the game is over.
The minute you play for the future, you lose sight of today. And in College football, you cant afford to do that, ever. As Herm would say, “You play to win the game.”
by BoddickerIsClutch on May 27, 2009 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Adding to that
There is a very real chance that there will be a 3 man race for the heisman from game 1 through the end of the season. I think Mack will keep Colt in and let him “pad his stats” quite a bit longer and in more games than he might otherwise.
Mack Brown has made it abundantly clear that he regrets not playing Colt McCoy as a true freshman
We aren’t in 2006 anymore and I for one am extremely glad that Colt will be our starting QB this year. If he’d played some meaningless snaps in 2005 he’d be gone now.
Despite Colt being very green against tOSU and Texas losing that game (not entirely his fault), there is still a very good chance we play for the MNC in 2006 if Colt doesn’t get hurt against KSU.
Why not both
I agree with GhostofBigRoy that the back-up QB needs meaningful playing time, not just handing off the ball in the fourth quarter of a blow-out. I disagree that we can only either play for today or for the future. Texas is good enough to do both, especially given their cream-puff schedule this year. UT should be able to win games decisively and give the back-up QB meaningful snaps. Furthermore, the back-up needs experience not just for next year but for this year should, heaven forbid, Colt get injured. And speaking of injuries, I think that is one reason Brown will not keep Colt in just to pad his stats for the Heisman. It would be hard to justify if Colt were injured while running up his individual stats once the game was decided.
"Only angry people win football games." --DKR
+1
I don’t imagine Mack putting in GG until we have built up a decent cushion (say 14-21 points). We should be able to do this against a lot of our schedule and then we can let GG run the full offense for a series here and there. YOU DO NOT build experience by just handing off the ball. You don’t get a chance to read the defense etc. GG will get a simplified offense as compared to Colt but that’s a given.
But GG must get in these games and run the normal offense. Not when we’re in a dogfight but when we’re comfortable.
"Football's so important in Texas. On the West Coast, it's a social. On the East Coast, it's a culture. Here, it's a religion."
-- Major Applewhite
As long as the game is out of reach I have no problem.
Like I said, let him run a real series with the starters when he first comes in, no problem, but theres no way Colt should rotate with anyone. Its Colts team, Colts offense.
OB – If Colt goes down, the season is toast. Sorry but no back-up will replace that QB on this team, hes just that important to us (or at least was last year). Meaningful snaps arent going to make the difference. This isnt a green first year QB going down against KSU, this is your senior, heisman runner up, most accurate season in the history of the sport QB. Point being, I dont buy the argument that if Colt gets injured, we need GG to have taken some snaps in Wyoming.
Secondly, if our schedule is so cream puff, then do you need to redefine what meaningful experience is? Is running a series against Rice, or UTEP, or Wyoming going to be that much more helpful than what hes doing in practice? Are any of those crowds going to prepare him for the RRS, or Stillwater in any greater a fashion than the big games hes already played in?
Playing for now and playing for the future are exclusive, because one has to take precedence over the other. There is no way that putting in GG in the first half of the game (unless we are already up 6 scores on a bad team) at the expense of Colt is the best strategic maneuver to win on that day, and if you aren’t doing everything you possibly can to give yourself the best chance to win on that day, then you open yourself for a loss.
When the game is decided, let him play. Let him throw, play with the first team, whatever. But until the game is decided, its Colt’s offense, Colt’s team, for the love I hope they leave him in.
by BoddickerIsClutch on May 27, 2009 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I see your point.
But GG has to gain experience somehow. We need GG to build confidence first. And the easiest way to build confidence is to throw him out against the “weaker” competition first. We can then analyze how he’s doing on his reads, throws, etc. We can help him in the areas he’s having issues in and then let him continue to build on those previous efforts.
I agree that this is Colt’s year. 2009 is OUR year and we can’t afford to let anything get in the way of us winning…but if we are up a few TDs, why not let GG come in and run the full offense instead of letting him wait until we have the game under wraps.
I think Colt wants to help GG learn. The best way to learn is not just sitting on the sidelines holding a clipboard. You have to experience it. If GG throws an interception he’ll learn from it and we have to pray it won’t cost us the game (though I’m sure he won’t be in there where we won’t have time to recover from it). I understand that there’s a small margin of error as ONE PLAY can change the whole game (see Tech last year)..but I doubt the coaches will throw him out there against OU if the game is close. But against a lot of our competition, GG can be throw in there on meaningful downs.
"Football's so important in Texas. On the West Coast, it's a social. On the East Coast, it's a culture. Here, it's a religion."
-- Major Applewhite
And a meangiful down...
is any play that we run where we aren’t up by 5 TDs or there’s less than 5 minutes left in the game…Haha.
"Football's so important in Texas. On the West Coast, it's a social. On the East Coast, it's a culture. Here, it's a religion."
-- Major Applewhite
Personally
Id rather see him redshirt. A year of practice, learning the system, being with the players etc. Seemed to work out pretty well for Colt.
He can get his in game experience against our OOC schedule next year.
we can’t afford to let anything get in the way of us winning
That I agree with, but I dont see how what follows falls in line with that line of thinking though. Either the game is out of reach (we won) or its not (we could lose). And if its not, then taking out our best player is getting in the way of us winning.
This isnt anything new here folks. Every program has these issues, but few are blessed with such good QBs to be worrying about. Everyone gets their feet wet somewhere, is it better to have your first game be a full start or a few downs against a cream puff? I don’t know, but I’m pretty sure neither prepares you for your first RRS start. Everyone gets their experience wherever it comes, the point is, we cant let it disrupt what needs to be the number one goal, which is to win, every day.
by BoddickerIsClutch on May 27, 2009 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Ditto. Redshirt him. Let Gilbert challenge for the starting job in 2010, but if he doesn’t get it, let Harris do his best Tee Martin impression.
by burntorangehorn on May 27, 2009 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions
no redshirt
S. Harris didn’t look very good on the spring, and IF Colt does go down we might as well get something positive out of it by letting GG get playing time. GG should get a ton of playing time the first half of the season, and some in the Big 12 schedule.
by Longhorns84 on May 29, 2009 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions
to be fair, none of the qbs did.
by Displaced Longhorn on May 30, 2009 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
I was going to mention this too. Colt didn’t do much either. I don’t think it’d be wise to burn the redshirt until Harris has had his shot, which has, um, never happened.
by burntorangehorn on May 30, 2009 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Crowds don’t make it meaningful, or at least not nearly to the extent that the type of plays called do. The chief difference between meaningful and meaningless, IMO, is that meaningful snaps mean not pulling the punches to run out the clock. It’s certainly possible to accomplish that against any opponent, from Rice to Oklahoma State, whether ahead by a touchdown or five touchdowns.
by burntorangehorn on May 27, 2009 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Y'all act like we don't have a second string QB and we do.
Sherrod Harris may not be your cup of tea or the toast of the town that Colt is, but he needs the reps before GG. I think y’all are getting the cart way before the horse. And while you may think the season is over if Colt goes down, that’s not necessarily the case either. (And you better know of wood whenever you say that as well or you’ll rue the day…)
Get smart, er, at least sober, guys, we need everyone we have on the team. Two seconds of thought tells you Sherrod needs the reps…and the Horns need him to have the reps to be in the position if things go badly. GG is not insurance; he is a rookie project; Sherrod is insurance.
GG will get some shots, and I agree with the whole thrust of what Big Roy is saying. But GG is not going to save your season while Sherrod just might.
it’s a gamble either way, you either give sherrod the reps and bank on the chance that if Colt goes down, Sherrod can pick up the pieces, at least temporarily.
or, we give GG the reps, with the knowledge that next year, we need a QB, and if it’s going to be GG (the Coaches see enough to know Sherrod will not be ready, but GG might), he needs the reps in anticipation of next year.
by Displaced Longhorn on May 27, 2009 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Sherrod has two years of eligibility remaining, so he would have a full year to start in 2010 if he were to win the job.
by burntorangehorn on May 30, 2009 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not sold on Sherrod at all....
If he can’t beat out Chiles for backup QB, then I can’t see him ever taking the field.
"Football's so important in Texas. On the West Coast, it's a social. On the East Coast, it's a culture. Here, it's a religion."
-- Major Applewhite
the 2nd best QB currently on the roster is now at WR.
That is until GG shows up.
I dont think he was given the opportunity.
Being highly recruited makes Mack say crazy stuff to recruits to get them to come to Texas. But every pass drill I witnessed last year before games had Sherrod throwing better and more acurately than Chiles. Not once did I see Chiles throw a better ball than Sherrod before games. Yes, I know there is a lot that I didn’t see in practice. However, I cannot completely eliminate the possibility Mack assured Chiles PT over Sherrod during his recruitment.
Personally, I do think Sherrod can be a fine QB and I agree with whills on this 100%. GG is our future, SH needs to be our back-up plan.
"From the waist down, Earl Campbell has the biggest legs I have ever seen on a running back." -John Madden
by run Bevo run on May 28, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions
The coaches wanted to anoint Chiles the QBOTF, so they kept beating their heads against that wall. I don’t think Chiles beat Harris on anything but potential.
by burntorangehorn on May 30, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Agreed on Harris whills
While I too agree with Big Roy’s thesis, I’m a firm believer that any breathless GG summit needs Xavier Lee, Anthony Morelli and Chris Simms acting as moderators, just for flavor.
proud to swim home
by learned hand on May 28, 2009 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Hey, for sure, lh. And there's an even deeper problem.
Sherrod and Colt are senior, both will leave after 2009.
GG will be either a red-shirt freshman or a sophomore with a little experience in 2010. Who will be his back-up? A Class A racing stable always has a back-up jockey. Perhaps GG is everything everyone ballyhoos, maybe he will adapt to the speed of the game and have great judgment and never be injured…but if he doesn’t, who is the second string for 2010? Some guy who didn’t even sniff the field in 2009? Someone even greener than GG? And this is for what could be a pretty fine team overall.
So, the Horns need four quarterbacks; two for this year and two for next.
Whatever the developmental process has been in the past, it will need some serious revision for this season’s ooc games. If you want to think MNC, you must have an experienced back-up – Sherrod – but you must also get GG and whoever else is back there some real game experience as well. It’s not just Colt and GG – it’s much deeper than that.
It’s a hell of a serious problem which must be played well for the Horns to have great chances in 2009 and 2010.
Sherrod Harris is a junior this year,
he came in the year before Chiles, but redshirted, so they are in the same class. Harris will likely be the back up to Gilbert in 2010.
by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on May 28, 2009 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions
I checked the Spring 2009 roster
and he was listed as a junior. I made the logical presumption that that classification was their current status, but I just checked and saw where McCoy and Shipley are listed as seniors, so I am obviously wrong about his status. Thanks for the correction. That solves a problem in , then, if he sticks around.
S. Harris didn't lokk good at all
I’d rather prepare the future than a backup.
by Longhorns84 on May 29, 2009 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Playing GG in 2009
GoBR – I’m with you on most of the post with some reservations.
First, I’d have to argue that the inability to develop Chiles as a QB was not due to the coach’s use of the “lightling” or “Q” package. Chiles didn’t develop as a QB any futher because he had already plateaued in that position.
Second, I’d argue that the use of these packages was probably more detrimental to the rythym of the Texas offense (or lack thereof in 2007) than it was beneficial to the development of the players in those groups. Case in point: In 2007, the offense lacked consistency and McCoy and the running game floundered at times. And to what benefit? Chiles? now at WR. Montre Webber? Transferred. For every drive that the coaches used these packages in the game, how much time was wasted in practice? There is a trade-off, and to your credit you do note that GG’s development should not come at the detriment of 2009 MNC aspirations.
The flirtation with the Q package just makes me even more skeptical that the coaches should use such an approach with GG because any time Chiles, Hales, and the rest of the offense spends away from McCoy has the potential of disrupting our flow. Let’s not forget that the 2008 offense did not always perform like the well-oiled machine on display versus Missouri, Kansas or in the 2nd half versus OU. Until the coaches feel confident that the offense is completely in tune (and that spending less time with Colt at the helm in practice), GG should not be running with any member of the 1st team in practice or otherwise beside the typical amount of time that the 2nd stringer gets.
The way to reconcile all of this is for Mack to simply understand that just because the game is out of hand he doesn’t have to run the ball every snap. Its not running up the score if the 2nd team is out there moving the ball down the field. GG ought to come in and play most or all of the entire 4th quarter of blow outs, and the coaches ought to have the majority of the offensive playbook available to them. Give GG the chance to see the field with the 2nd unit to gain game experience, and then give him the offseason to build a rapport with the other first teamers once we have the MNC trophy on the in the trophy case.
I agree about not disrupting the flow of the offense,
but I think the hope is that at least in the passing game, that McCoy and company come out sharp from the very first snap. Developing and finding a consistency with the running game is another matter.
If one thing is sacrificed in the plan I laid out, I think it should be the every third series or so part, for the reasons you mentioned. However, those would be the most valuable snaps to Gilbert facing an opponent’s first-team defense, so I think that should be weighed as well.
by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on May 27, 2009 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions
What about Sherrod Harris?
Considering Mack’s character and his recruiting style, it seems unlikely that he will put true freshmen in front of a guy who have been waiting patiently for a number of years, despite the fact that he could have easily transferred. Unless GG is significantly a better backup and is more comfortable with our system than Sherrod, I really don’t see him getting more PT.
The idea of playing Gilbert late in the blowout games seem to make sense, but I am not sure how much that will benefit him. It is unlikely that the coaches will call the similar plays Colt would run with the first team offense. I imagine they would keep it very simple for Gilbert despite his so called high football IQ and knowledge of the game, because they do not want to risk injury of Gilbert who is going to be the future of our team. In other words, would you trust 2nd/3rd team OL and WRs to execute as well as other teams defense who still might have their 1st teamers??
Sure getting the “feel” of the game would benefit him tremendously…but is it really worth risking injury?
COACH BOOM BABY!!
I'm operating under the premise
that Gilbert beats Harris out in the fall with both given an equal chance.
by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on May 27, 2009 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions
I responded the same upstream as hookemkp.
For the record, I sincerely doubt GG will be out Sherrod before the season starts. I think Gilbert would be extremely lucky to do so even by mid-season; there’s just too much ground to cover.
if Gilbert doesn't redshirt...
He has to be pencilled in as the #2 QB on day 1. Otherwise, why not use a redshirt? As the 3rd stringer, he will never make it into a game.
Unfortunately Sherrod’s time has come and gone. I admire his perseverance but starting at a D-1 program is not in everyone’s cards, even if you happen to be a 3 or 4 star recruit. Unless (god forbid) Colt goes down with an injury very early in the season, Gilbert ought to be the only other QB that sees significant time on the field. From the moment he sets foot on campus he’ll have better QB skills than anyone on the roster not named Colt, and he also happens to have played in a system not terribly unlike the one the ’Horns currently employ.
There is no sense is doing things half-assed here. If you intend to use one year of Gilbert’s eligibility he needs to see the field in 2009, and his PT better be somewhat meaningful. Burying him behind Sherrod is counterproductive.
You point to a decision in the future (if not now):
Do you go with someone who has several years experience in the system, both the offense and recognizing college defenses, blitzes and formations, or do you go with someone who has virtually no experience at college level speed?
Logically, most any freshman QB is going to have a learning curve – even VY had a steep learning curve – so I just don’t give much credence to a rookie coming in and being ready to go in no time flat. I don’t think that is realistic. If Sherrod is on the team, his time has not “come and gone.”
The smart move is to have Sherrod as the second string and, if GG has the overall skills to beat him out, so be it.
The last point involves team credibility: if you give the position to GG by fiat, by decree, the team will see through that…they know who should be getting playing time and who shouldn’t. GG has to earn it; there is no other way to get team respect.
You go with
The man that can consistently move the ball and keep possession of it. Regardless of all other considerations, it’s results that matter.
Agreed. That's generally goes hand-in-hand
with the player who makes the fewest mistakes, which is who the coaches generally favor unless there is a particular dynamic in a single player (runner vs. passer for example, which is situational).
Better potential? Yes. Better skills? Absolutely not. Harris ran the scout team for a year, and he has been on the roster and running the system for two years since. I’d say Gilbert has a whole lot of ground to cover before he sniffs that level of experience, and the skills that have come with it. He’ll get there soon enough, but in his first semester on campus? Doubt it.
by burntorangehorn on May 30, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions
S. Harris
If Mack does this, then he will fall back to his old ways. Mack should play the best player and that is GG.
by Longhorns84 on May 29, 2009 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm mixed on my feelings about what to do with him
On the one hand, you could argue that the ideal scenario is that Harris proves to be a capable backup and GG redshirts. This not only allows Gilbert to sit, watch, learn, and develop, it allows us to keep him another season, assuming he doesn’t leap early to the NFL. In the sense, it’s better for our future.
However, this team is relatively young and you can argue we have some pieces to make another serious run at a conference title after Colt leaves. In that case, having Gilbert be our backup this year will arguably make him more prepared for the following season. Also good for our future.
Personally, I’d like to redshirt him. But if he beats out Harris, then that’s fine. I don’t think he should play unless we have a sizeable lead though; while it’s not the greatest of experience to play in mop-up duty, it’s still a taste of Saturday football.
by TheElusiveShadow on May 27, 2009 9:36 PM CDT reply actions
The only failure in developing John Chiles was in John Chiles’s failure to develop. I have some confidence in Harris. However, he is a year behind due to injury and the ensuing lack of playing time after falling behind Chiles.
I see Gilbert as the number two QB by mid-season.
Too funny
What good did it do to score only 49 points against the Aggies when the Sooners were dropping 60+ on everyone and the pollsters were sprouting gigantic boners as a result?
"From the waist down, Earl Campbell has the biggest legs I have ever seen on a running back." -John Madden
Great stuff!
I completely agree, Big Roy. Play Gilbert as much as you can Gilbert needs the experience and it reduces the risk of injury to Colt. The trick is how to know when you are far enough ahead that it is relatively safe to bring in Gilbert. I’m thinking 3 TDs sounds about right.
GG
Mack also has to worry about players leaving early to the NFL. GG won’t redshirt because of this issue. I think GG will earn the #2 spot before the season start and at the latest by time Big 12 play starts.

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