Justin Chaisson is enrolled at OU
by jkovach on Jun 11, 2009 4:15 PM CDT
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PrintNo big surprise here, despite his criminal record. Rivals is reporting that he is now on the roster and will be wearing number 95. What can you say about Oklahoma and Stoops that hasn't been said a million times before.
Maybe he and Jamarkus "McFiction" McFarland's mother will be roommates. You would think that she would have a cow letting her baby boy near a thug like this.
I sincerely hope that nobody gets hurt, so we don't have to say, "told you so." But, this is a risk that I just can't see a credible insitution taking. Congratulations to OU on laying another egg.
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I actually think this is a much bigger deal than the guy Tennessee allowed to enroll, yet there’s nary a word about it in the media.
by burntorangehorn on Jun 11, 2009 5:17 PM CDT reply actions
I disagree.
The UT thing is much worse as it’s been proven as fact.
The Ralphie Report - University of Colorado Athletics
?
It was never proven that this kid kidnapped and threatened to screwdriver his girlfriend in the desert? Or that OU allowed him to come to school anyway?
The whole story.
The main reason that the charges got dropped from felonies to misdemeanors were due to some of the girls own friends claiming that there wasn’t any “screwdriver threatening”.
The Ralphie Report - University of Colorado Athletics
So admitting a kid who assaulted someone semi-sexually when he was he was in middle school, which didn’t involve threatening someone’s life with a makeshift weapon, is worse than admitting Chaisson, who assaulted and threatened the life of someone just a few months ago?
by burntorangehorn on Jun 11, 2009 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I think both acts are fairly disgusting...
… I’m not sure why there has to be any debate about which is more acceptable than the other. But it sounds like in one case the individual is trying to move past a very dark point in his life, while the other happened so recently that it’s unclear if it’s a pathology or a big dumb mistake.
As with all things, time will tell…
True, both were bad things, but I think it’s as you said: one did it a long time ago, when he was really just a young kid. The other did it while getting ready to head to college.
by burntorangehorn on Jun 12, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Also, my point was that a big to-do was made about the Tennessee kid, but almost nothing has been said about Chaisson.
by burntorangehorn on Jun 12, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Chaisson's guilt is no longer a question-he plead to the crimes
Justin Chaisson pleaded no contest to four gross misdemeanors in Clark County (Nev.) Court: two counts of false imprisonment, one count of malicious destruction of private property and one count of conspiracy to commit coercion and/or false imprisonment.
By pleading no contest as part of his plea agreement the crime is not disputed, so it is therefore proven. He is a criminal. He plead in exchange for these charges being dropped from felonies. So, he is not a “Felon” but he is guilty of Gross Misdemeanors. His guilt is no longer debatable—he is a criminal. OU doesn’t mind Gross Misdemeanor criminals, they apparently draw the line at Felons.
Comparing the Tenn. situation is merely a question of which is the more evil crime. In my opinon rape, but most people are missing the really troubling thing with the Chaisson case.
I have another concern about CHAISSON—His contempt of court and violation of the original Restraining Order shows that he does not care what a Judge says
The ex-girlfriend had already gotten a civil court to give her a Restraining Order against him. There had to be a reason that she requested that in the first place (ie, he was harassing her somehow).
On the day of the crime, he still approached her and kidnapped her in violation of the already in place Restraining Order. Any attempt to blame this girl or transfer fault is VERY WRONG!!! She is the Victim (crime survivor) , and he is the Criminal. PERIOD on that. It is really wrong to suggest she was in any way wishy washy or not truthful…..everything in this case suggests that it happened just like reported.
The girl did not pursue the contempt of court charges for the violation of the Restraining Order. All this happened about the same time as the plea deal was being worked out to reduce the charges from felonies. It is reasonable to believe that the prosecutors consulted wit the victim and her family about agreeing to the plea deal. It is also reasonable to assume that the victim (ex-girlfriend) and her family knew that this would mean Chaisson would likely remain eligible to attend OU. The ex-girlfriend/Survivor of his attachk and her family probably thought this was one of the best ways to get this nutjob ex-boyfriend away from this girl/surivor of his attack. On one hand you would think they would want him locked up, but on the otherhand you can understand why they would just want him to go to Norman and get out of their lives for their own safety.
OU turning a blind eye to the serious issues with Chaisson exposes them (OU) to serous liability if he acts out again…….If he does anything to another girl, OU will get sued so fast…….and it will be a huge $$$ amount of exemplary/punitive damages. They are on notice of this guy has anger problems and they are allowing him free opportunity to come on their campus and do it again. The risk to them is huge if he does anything wrong at all.
Perception
Objectively, the Tenn. guy that helped rape his cousin four or five years ago is a worse deal than Chaisson, who got mad at his girl and drove her around in the desert and put a screwdriver up to her neck (maybe).
However, this is kind of like the Mike Vick deal in that how you view it comes down to how much redemption you allow a criminal to achieve: Chaisson is a current thug who did something pretty bad; Tenn guy did something horrible a while back and has since put a lot of time and effort into positive works and improving his life.
Personally, I figure that the Tenn guy “has the momentum” and is less likely to cause a problem in the future… Even if his past misdeeds are way more deplorable. Ultimately, OU may luck out and Chaisson may improve in a different environment… But probably not. Dollars to donuts he’ll eventually get away from his handlers and do something stupid.
I think you have a point
but the risks these schools are taking are so big if either player does re-commit. These aren’t DUIs or public intoxication without identifiable victims, these are serious violent crimes. I wonder if any current recruits (or more likely their parents) would be really turned off by this.
When I original read about the plea deal I knew Chaisson must be getting in at OU because he probably would not have plead so quickly otherwise. Stoops kept it quiet so that it would be a done deal before anybody could really question it.
On a brighter side— at least this takes some of OU’s ability to use depth chart at DE against us on rercuiting Jackson Jeffcoat.
Indeed
It’s probably not worth it to either institution… With a clean recruit, a school can claim ignorance. If a player commits a second offense, then the school is a willful enabler. It worked for Miami and OU back in the day, and the current media environment would definitely crush a school in the court of public perception… Even if the limpdick NCAA were to mope around for seven years and talk about it.
This doesn't even make sense.
Maybe he and Jamarkus “McFiction” McFarland’s mother will be roommates.
I know you are trying to give a proper diss, try harder next time.
"From the waist down, Earl Campbell has the biggest legs I have ever seen on a running back." -John Madden
I thought I would offer a suggestion.
Maybe Chaisson and McFarland’s mom can get together for screwdrivers or cosmos.
"From the waist down, Earl Campbell has the biggest legs I have ever seen on a running back." -John Madden
by run Bevo run on Jun 12, 2009 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions
guys relax
it wasn’t even a phillips head.
by the other Andrew on Jun 11, 2009 9:35 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
Seriously
Who uses a flathead screwdriver anymore? Those things suck, and are only good as a chisel when you can’t find the actual chisel.
Never use a screwdriver as a chisel...
It ruins the screwdriver, and its an insult to chisels.
-Hank Hill
by ctex80 on Jun 12, 2009 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Here is the story from
Gotta love this comment from one of the readers:
I think we need some with a “killer” instinct Bill…
Phew…man, they know how to pick ‘em, don’t they?
by burntorangehorn on Jun 12, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions
punishment
Considering the charges, I’m shocked at the sentence. Oklahoma is obviously very lenient in terms of this type of crime. Pathetic.
A judge sentenced Chaisson to three years probation and 120 hours of community service. Chaisson will have to attend long-term domestic-violence counseling and complete an additional 48 hours of community service for also pleading guilty to a pair of misdemeanors.
I doubt that many college age female coeds read the sports page. This is a guy they need to stay clear of. He is anger management issue waiting to happen. On the flip side, just the type of the aggressive defensive player Stoops likes.
But then maybe other states are, too, so that may not be a fair statement about Oklahoma.
by dimecoverage on Jun 12, 2009 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Oklahoma the school is certainly lenient, but the lenient local government in this case is Clark County, Nevada, as that’s where it happened.
by burntorangehorn on Jun 12, 2009 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions
True. He is from Nevada.
So he serves his so-called sentence in Oklahoma, I assume.
by dimecoverage on Jun 12, 2009 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Having to live in Norman for four years
would be punishment enough in most cases
We have to give Stoops some credit.
His team’s off-field antics pale in comparison to any of Switzer’s players. OU has made progress.
admit it, y'all would love him
if he said “bitches need to be kicked”
(or “screwed” given his tool of choice here)
Could be, but we’ll have to wait until Nov. 14th to hear him say it.
by burntorangehorn on Jun 13, 2009 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Sooners play the Aggies on Nov. 14th
Still a Blaine Irby fan
by patienthornsfan on Jun 15, 2009 8:14 AM CDT up reply actions
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