Horns Drop Game One 7-6
Texas looked like the better team for much of the night, taking a 6-4 lead into the top of the 9th. LSU fought back though singling in a run in the 11th to take Game One 7-6. But as Pat Murphy so aptly put it, the Horns are in the same position they were to begin the night, still needing just 2 wins for the national title. The Horns are by no means done, with Taylor Jungmann and Cole Green left to go. Game Two will start tomorrow at 6 PM.
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Sigh... I guess this is what you call...
getting a taste of your own medicine.
by goingforthecorner on Jun 22, 2009 10:20 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
2 Errors killed us...we have been dodging it all post season long...
Also I wasn’t very happy with pitching management…I think Augie and Skip panicked at times
COACH BOOM BABY!!
by hookemkp on Jun 22, 2009 10:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Why? I think they did the right things. He gets paid well to make those decisions.
He knows those guys a lot better than us
by NeTexHorn on Jun 22, 2009 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yea it is easy to second guess their decisions since we lost the game but..
-I think Ruffin should have faced the last better on top of 6th..It is hard to ask a cramping pitcher to go through one more..but I think he could done the better job than Wood
-Put too much pressure on Jungman as soon as Wood gave up a hit. It was one out ,and, even though the tying run was at the plate, I think it would have been a better decision to leave Wood in there.
COACH BOOM BABY!!
by hookemkp on Jun 22, 2009 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There was no way that Cameron Rupp should have called
for the curveball to Mikie Mahtook. Horrible decision.
by GhostofBigRoy on Jun 22, 2009 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Travis Tucker's mental error in 6th inning was huge...
That resulted in 2 runs
COACH BOOM BABY!!
by hookemkp on Jun 22, 2009 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does Rupp call the pitches?
Often the call come from the dugout.
Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.
by Caradoc on Jun 23, 2009 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
Plus, Is Workman just a piece of meat, he doesnt have to say yes to every single pitch, he was fresh, he should have asked for the fastball
by future_longhorn_dad on Jun 23, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dang you got this up quick.
You doing pre-work again?
by NeTexHorn on Jun 22, 2009 10:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Poor Management by Augie
The Lussons should not even step foot on the field during these games. Taking Keyes and Moldenhauer out of the game was a big mistake. I absolutely despise when Augie takes this approach. Wood should have been left in the game with 1 out in the bottom of the 9th.
Would love to see the Horns win Games 2 & 3, but with a depleted pitching staff I just don’t see it.
by That'sCrazy on Jun 22, 2009 10:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Second guess much? He made the same decisions in the previous games
and we couldn’t be happier with those results. Team lost. Still 2 more games to play.
by NeTexHorn on Jun 22, 2009 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think they got a few breaks in those games. Eventually, those decisions backfire like tonight.
You cannot take out your best hitters for defense especially given the way our pitching staff has given up leads all throughout the tournament.
by That'sCrazy on Jun 22, 2009 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree about Keyes.
He has good speed and I’ve never seen him make a poor play in the field. The older Lusson. Well, he is terrible with the bat. I don’t really care to ever see him on the field again for the Longhorns.
by GhostofBigRoy on Jun 22, 2009 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well somewhat justified
Pulling Clark and Keyes for defenders did deliver two outs on pop flys
by owenh on Jun 22, 2009 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I trust that Clark and Keyes can catch fly balls. They do it in the first 7 innings. What makes the 8th and 9th any different?
by That'sCrazy on Jun 22, 2009 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
For Clark is partly about inexperience and lack of speed.
I don’t know what the deal is with Keyes.
by GhostofBigRoy on Jun 23, 2009 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
5 Hrs. and we lose a game?
Pretty embarrassing.
by texashorns1 on Jun 22, 2009 10:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
5...and not embarassing at all.
just a tough loss. pick it up tomorrow with Cole Green, who hasn’t let us down yet.
by hayzer13 on Jun 22, 2009 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
LSU isnt the unbeatable monster that ESPN feeds hourly, we lost that game, and we have the ability to take the next two. Heres to 2 more nights of great baseball
by future_longhorn_dad on Jun 22, 2009 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The good news?
Even if LSU wins one of the next two games, we can still claim that we’re better. After all, baseball tournaments don’t determine the better team. I take great solace in that.
by GhostofBigRoy on Jun 22, 2009 10:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i dont think we can claim we are the better team...
calm down and think about what you are really saying
COACH BOOM BABY!!
by hookemkp on Jun 22, 2009 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, the Pat Murphy
view of the world.
by DoubleB on Jun 22, 2009 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
one call here, one call there
we couldve won the whole thing… even though there are still games left to play, had we won this game…
by hayzer13 on Jun 22, 2009 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If was ours to lose
and we lost it
by future_longhorn_dad on Jun 22, 2009 10:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Anyone got any good movie ideas
to get my mind off of what just happened
by future_longhorn_dad on Jun 22, 2009 10:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I may have to put in a football movie or something
by future_longhorn_dad on Jun 22, 2009 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Inning by Inning
although i questioned some calls tonight, the next time I coach in the CWS will be the first.
In Augie we trust.
by hayzer13 on Jun 22, 2009 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that supposed to make us feel better
I mean it does, but, you know
by future_longhorn_dad on Jun 22, 2009 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
All this game did was....
Give us something to go crazy for on Wednesday. I mean, as exciting as Criminal Minds and CSI are…
We’ve been coming back in games all CWS…. now we just made it more interesting, have to come back in a series.
by hayzer13 on Jun 22, 2009 10:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I am sorry!
But how in the hell can you take out two guys that have 3 damn homeruns for players that have seen limited at bats! I love Augie, but he gave this game to LSU and possibly the championship!
by BAMTX on Jun 22, 2009 10:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Taking out our big hitters was a HUGE mistake.
And the fact that Augie’s been making the same mistake throughout the tournament, and getting away with it, doesn’t make it any less of a mistake. You can’t take your best hitters out of a game when there’s any chance they might bat again. Doing it in a two-run game with two innings left is pure foolishness.
And this isn’t second-guessing — it’s first-guessing. Everybody could see even at the time that it was a mistake. I was yelling at my TV screen.
Augie is second to none when it comes to leading a team and motivating players, but he is hopeless when it comes to game strategy. He’s won national championships and all that, sure — but he’s won them in spite of his strategic moves, not because of them.
by JudenSmithFan on Jun 22, 2009 11:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
On the other hand....
I do have to give Augie credit for the way he handled the bunting in today’s game — every time we should have been bunting, we were, and (much more importantly) every time we shouldn’t have been bunting, we weren’t.
by JudenSmithFan on Jun 22, 2009 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I feel like I pitched tonight.
Man, what an intense game. Watching ESPN’s coverage you would have thought the game was in Baton Rouge. Looking forward to getting our revenge tomorrow.
Hook’em!
I've been fuelin' my dreams eatin' greens and beans.
by 16thLonghorn on Jun 22, 2009 11:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Not going to blame Augie
Bullpen couldn’t find the strike zone and fell behind on the count too many times. That’s going to get you into trouble against anyone, much less a great hitting team like LSU. We tested fire too much and got burned.
by TheElusiveShadow on Jun 22, 2009 11:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
lot of upset folks with pulling our big hitters out....
if we get in the same position again, I’m not so sure Augie will do this again……his bullpen is definately struggling closing out games right now. He has to consider keeping them in.
Our pitching will need to be lights out tommorrow……LSU’s bats certainly woke up as the game wore on…….hopefully not a sign of things to come.
by silky51 on Jun 22, 2009 11:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Any move that results in the announcement "Now batting, Tim Maitland"
…has to be considered to have backfired.
by JudenSmithFan on Jun 22, 2009 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anxious
I love the horns but I don’t see us coming back.Scary at bats in Perriloux State’s line-up……….Horns,not so much.I’ll be pulling for the Horns till gabriel blows his horn or worse.
by hunghorn on Jun 22, 2009 11:25 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
So close
We proved we can hang with those mighty bats of Baton Rouge, but we just couldn’t finish. It is encouraging to know we beat ourselves against a team that’s supposedly unbeatable. But at this stage of the game moral victories don’t mean anything.
by randomguy on Jun 22, 2009 11:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
up 2 runs in the 9th, I don't have a problem subbing for defense
you don’t play for extra innings when you have a lead. the only move I didn’t like was pulling austin wood. if we lost the lead with him on the mound, I would’ve accepted it. i can handle living and dying on his arm.
I was very surprised that jungman couldn’t find the plate. he had been having a great cws so far.
3/19/2009 - Dogus Balbay Made a Three-Pointer. Never Forget.
by burrito on Jun 22, 2009 11:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
pitching.....
Workman got us two strike outs with the bases loaded and we did nothing for him. I have to say that the bullpen was not what cost us the game. Their hitters wanted to hit the ball and ours didnt when it counted in the end.
by BAMTX on Jun 22, 2009 11:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree...
For the extra inning play. We just needed 1 run to put this thing away. However, it was the bullpen that put us in that position to begin with.
by randomguy on Jun 22, 2009 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let us not behave like Aggies.....
--- All roads to the Big-XII Championship lead through OU/RRS. It's not just another game! We're all about championships here. ---
by HornChamps on Jun 23, 2009 1:22 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't think anyone is blaming the loss on the umpires.
I've been fuelin' my dreams eatin' greens and beans.
by 16thLonghorn on Jun 23, 2009 7:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or claiming moral victories.
by BoddickerIsClutch on Jun 23, 2009 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or making posts to themselves in open threads
"From the waist down, Earl Campbell has the biggest legs I have ever seen on a running back." -John Madden
by run Bevo run on Jun 23, 2009 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Umps
In fact, the umpiring has been good overall. They used to use some local guy who was behind the plate for about half the games. He was unbiased, but erratic as hell.
Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.
by Caradoc on Jun 23, 2009 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I miss Huston Streets...
I know..a wishful thinking
COACH BOOM BABY!!
by hookemkp on Jun 23, 2009 1:26 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I have to admit that I was shocked to see the hot hands (esp. Moldenhauer) pulled, and I really thought it was a huge mistake to put in Jungmann instead of going directly to DiCharry or Shinabarry. TJ needed to be untouched for tomorrow’s game, IMO. Augie, you’re the baseball genius, not I, but I’m just honestly puzzled by some of the things that happened last night.
by burntorangehorn on Jun 23, 2009 5:44 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I hate to second guess
but I do have to agree with the rest of you about pulling Moldy and Keays. It is one thing about putting in defensive specialist in a MLB game, but taking out your two hottest hitters, I just do not understand. With taking Keyes out there was a .174 hitter in his place, hell even taking Clark out you still had Maitland a .200 hitter that was the second to last out of the game. I think Augie needs to plan for playing into extra innings from now on and leave in the offensive power.
Now am I going to blame the loss on the fact that our two hottest hitters were not in there, no. Once again mistakes in the field and the pitching finally caught up. Chance was absolutely brilliant in his 5 2/3. Once again Wood struggled, but was holding his own. Then the wheels came off and the rest of the pitching staff could not find the strike zone to save their lives. Then with the throwing error and past ball. This team is the complete opposite it was since arriving in Omaha. The hitting has become spectacular, the fielding is completely horrible with nothing less than 2 errors a game in the CWS, the starting pitching has been amazing with the exception of Ruffin’s game against ASU, but the relief pitching has been mediocre at best and that is being nice.
Now I am going to look at this one game tonight starting tonight. If Texas is going to win tonight, the defense and pitching are going to have to pull up the slack. The offense has done more than enough to support, now the other two have got to get it done. I am guessing Jungmann is starting tonight. He needs to forget last night (a situation I am not sure he really should have been brought in, even though Wood had given up the hit he still had settled in nicely and I think he could have finished. Last night reality hit us in the face and got some of our own medicine thrown in our face. Tonight is a new night and it is still a best 2 of 3, Hook ’Em.
The next up and coming Longhorns QB!
by HornsRiverine on Jun 23, 2009 6:12 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The shoe is on the other foot at the moment
I guess I’m sorta understanding where the bitterness and doubt that we have seen from the opponents the horns beat in the earlier rounds. I didn’t leave that game thinking that LSU should have won and I can see how some of our earlier opponents thought the same thing after losing to Texas.
Go Horns.
by andmyster on Jun 23, 2009 6:24 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The good news is ...
LSU is not unbeatable. They threw the best pitcher they had at us, and we clobbered him. Unfortunately, I think our players bought into the idea of magic and destiny and fate and forgot to play baseball when it counted. Perhaps that was the wake-up call they needed.
I thought the management of the pitching staff was terrible, I didn’t like the idea of bringing out Keyes and Moldenhauer, there were about a million things that, sitting in the comfort of my house, I can say should have been handled differently. But there is a reason that Augie Garrido gets paid $800,000 a year to make those decisions and I don’t.
Today is a chance to wipe the slate clean. Better performance from our bullpen is the most critical thing. I fully believe that with Taylor Jungmann’s makeup, he can come back tonight and throw well. But with LSU’s ability to score runs, the bullpen cannot let up. LSU doesn’t have another starter as good as Louis Coleman, and the only one they have who is close would pitching on 3 days rest if he goes tonight. Their 3rd starter would be battling for midweek starts for us. So either way they decide to go, Texas has a monumental opportunity to push this to a third game tonight. They just have to make up their minds that they want it.
by bassale47 on Jun 23, 2009 7:54 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Looking at the Moldy and Keyes issue
At the beginning of the 8th inning, Augie took at Moldy and replaced him first with Shephard, and then with Lusson. This was not a defensive move, as this as the DH slot. Up to that point, Moldy was responsible for a 3rd of our hits and a 3rd of our runs. Had he stayed in the game, he would have had 2 more at bats, obviously in the 8th, and then in the 10th. As far as Keyes, he was taken out after the 9th to put the other Lusson in the outfield. Now, obviously we dont know what would have happened, but we might have had both Keyes and Moldy at the plate in the 10th, and they had already hit 3 HR and had 5 of the 10 hits in the game
by future_longhorn_dad on Jun 23, 2009 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Woke up at 5 AM
Couldn’t go back to sleep, thinking about baseball :(
by ryanlionrah on Jun 23, 2009 9:45 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I am wondering if ya'll watched the same game I did
Your stud started the game, and let me say, looked phenomenal, truly a gifted pitcher. LSU started their, for lack of a better term, alternate stud, since it seems Ranaudo is probably as good as Coleman, and you lit him up like a christmas tree. I mention this because, after Texas teed off with a whole herd of dingers, they still lost. Yes, there was some poor management, yes, they committed some errors, but you have to play all 9 innings to win, or in this case 11. especially against a team like LSU. So I would say that Texas did not so much lose that game as LSU simply wanted to win it more.
Someone said LSU threw their best pitcher, that is debatable as personally I think Ranaudo has a slight edge over Coleman, but not enough of a difference to matter, suffice to say that Texas will be facing an equal opponent on the mound tonight and you may have as much success, but then again, Coleman looked bad to me, his pitch placement was off and he just never seemed to settle into a groove. Personally I think he should have been pulled one inning before he was. Coleman was certainly capable of a better effort and so is Ranaudo.
I thought it interesting the role reversal, Texas going long so many times, while LSU struggled, due in no small part to Ruffin’s pitching. But I think it prudent to remember that while LSU did not shine on the bats last night, they can explode with a moments notice, to think otherwise is foolish. The key mistake I thought LSU made last night was not swinging, they were being to patient, perhaps because they thought that getting to the bullpen was a better choice, but going by Texas’ pitching this year, that may not be a sound plan. They seemed to finally clue into this in the latter innings.
From a strictly statistical standpoint you have to like LSU’s chances since they have 2 shots to win one game. I thought that it would likely go three, and it could go either way since anyone that makes it to Omaha stands a chance, it is just a much stiffer hill for Texas to climb now. It will be interesting to see how they come it, hopefully they will put it behind them and play they way they are capable of instead of letting the circumstances linger in their heads.
by jwr on Jun 23, 2009 11:56 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I mention this because, after Texas teed off with a whole herd of dingers, they still lost. Yes, there was some poor management, yes, they committed some errors, but you have to play all 9 innings to win, or in this case 11.
Like everyone else has said, I don’t want to act like I know how to manage a baseball team, HOWEVER -
Moldenhauer AND Keyes both scored on their final at-bats (bottom 6th), yet they were pulled. Why you would pull one, let alone TWO, hot hitters when your lead isn’t sufficient to insulate yourself from a team that’s known for their hard hitting really beats me. Further adding to my confusion is the fact that neither batter has had more than 50 ABs, and one of the two is batting below .200 . There’s something to be said for gaining experience, and even gaining experience on a big stage, but opening game of the CWS Finals is not that time, especially when it’s still a relatively tight game.
So now, I don’t buy your “oh, you gotta play 9 innings and the Horns just didn’t do it”. That may be true defensively, but offensively, the choices made were offensive.
by TXinDC on Jun 23, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You won. We get it. Believe me.
But don’t start this “LSU was just better” crap. You came up with the runs when you needed them. Congrats. Texas has been doing that for weeks, only to be told it meant they weren’t as good as the teams they were beating. The fact of the matter is that you wouldn’t have needed those runs if Texas hadn’t dominated most of the game with starting pitching and offense. You’re not going to convince anyone here that LSU “should have won.” You all are counting your lucky stars that the Texas bullpen failed to come through and that Augie took out some of his best hitters. Texas had this game in the bag and choked. You know it, we know it, everyone who saw the game knows it. Does that mean you didn’t deserve the win? No. Does it mean you’re necessarily the better team? Absolutely not.
by bassale47 on Jun 23, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Weren't you saying just the opposite 2 or 3 days ago?
“As for the "best team" argument … how can anyone say they are the best team when they don’t win? People get too caught up in synoymizing "most talented team" with "best team." One of the things I love most about college baseball is that winning a national championship takes an entire month of elevating your game above what you did during the regular season. It doesn’t take just one great performance. It takes one great performance after another, frequently against teams that are more talented or more experienced than you. It is incredibly hard to do and takes an unbelievably special group of players and coaches to accomplish. To me, the team that can do that over and over again for 4 and a half weeks IS the best team. I don’t care what their seeding was or what their rank was or how many MLB prospects they have or what their team batting average or staff ERA is. Being the best means winning. Period.”
“Texas had this game in the bag and choked. You know it, we know it, everyone who saw the game knows it. " And you don’t think ASU felt the exact same way a few nights ago?
Can it ever be about the other team winning? For all the posts and comments about being “clutch” and “having heart,” did that go away because a very good baseball team returned the favor in the ninth last night? Is it now Texas choked and Augie blew it? It’s college baseball—it’s not in the bag till the damn game is over.
by DoubleB on Jun 23, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You might want to read the whole conversation and not just one comment.
We were discussing tournaments, not single games. Any team can win one game. How long have you been watching baseball?
Pat Murphy said baseball tournaments don’t tell always tell who the best team is, implying that being eliminated doesn’t automatically mean they weren’t the best team in the field. My argument was that the best team in this tournament is the one who wins. If LSU wins one of the next two, I don’t think you’ll get any argument from anyone here to the notion that LSU was the best. But I think it’s quite clear after last night’s game that this series is much more evenly matched than everyone thought.
by bassale47 on Jun 23, 2009 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
Before 6pm yesterday, LSU was this almighty monster that no one could slay. They hit the ball more, they had better hitters, they would sweep everyone. Last night, they had to come back to win, and took advantage of some untimely Texas mistakes to pull this one out. If Texas doesnt make these mistakes, LSU is down 0-1 in this series. There is no better team until its over, right now its more of who can take advantage of what the other team gives them. Media is notorious for finding a “BEST” team before the playoffs start (i.e. 2005 USC, 2009 NBA, Cleve vs LA), but we all know, all that matters is what happens on the field.
by future_longhorn_dad on Jun 23, 2009 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Any team can win a tournament as well
Oregon State 2007 and Fresno State 2008 are prime examples of that. The best team doesn’t always win, even in a tournament. In that respect Pat Murphy is correct. (What a tournament does give us is a clear, concise winner and champion). Where I thought he was wrong was implying that his ASU team was better than Texas. I think Texas would win more games against ASU than not.
“If LSU wins one of the next two, I don’t think you’ll get any argument from anyone here to the notion that LSU was the best.”
Can I get money on that? I don’t recall a ton of comments that have given LSU credit for a) coming back and b) shutting down Texas with their relief pitching. It’s been a stream of Tuesday Morning Quarterbacking about what Texas, and Augie in particular, did wrong.
“But I think it’s quite clear after last night’s game that this series is much more evenly matched than everyone thought.”
Ah Texas . . the most disrespected 1 seed in the history of sports. Give me a break. LSU is on a hot streak, but they lost 16 games this year. More importantly, it’s baseball where even great college teams don’t do a whole lot better than .750. Anybody who knew anything thought this was close to 50-50.
by DoubleB on Jun 23, 2009 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry we didn't fellate LSU
But I think it was implied that LSU did a helluva job coming back last night, and for shutting down Texas in the last 1/3 of the game. Otherwise, we wouldn’t have been debating Augie’s decisions.
However, since when have you heard anyone – a coach, a team, a fan – say, “Well, I guess they were just better than us and we’ll have to give up. No reason to look at areas for improvement”? That’s easy to say if you’re a 3rd party observer, but we’re on a Texas board rooting for a Texas team to win the G.D. National Championship! So of course we’re going to try to analyze where the team could’ve done better to actually win the game.
So again, sorry we didn’t get down on our knees for some verbal BJs for Les Tigres. We figured the rest of the sporting world had already taken care of that with their preordination for LSU as the team that’s been unchallenged through the tourney because they’re just so damn good.
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