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Afternoon Brewsky Goes to Summer Camp

Horns_bullet_mediumOr, it's hard to de-commit from Texas at a Texas camp. Rejoice, Longhorn fans -- the worst thing that can happen at the Texas camp on Sunday is that a couple of 2010 targets don't show up. While that certainly would be disappointing, especially in the cases of Darius White, Lache Seastrunk, and Trovon Reed, at least no one is likely to de-commit. All of the 2010 commits left (all 19 of them) are expected in town for their first major opportunity to bond as Longhorn teammates. The summer camps are a major recruiting time for the Longhorns, falling only behind the two Junior Days, the spring game, and Signing Day in terms of importance. Several important remaining targets for 2010 will be in town this weekend, probably providing the last chance for the coaching staff to make a significant impact on each recruit -- most, if not all, will not make another trip down to Austin this summer.

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Here are the players expected to attend the camp ($) this weekend (note: these are only the current confirmations, any of the players listed may not show up):

  • Trey Franks, West Orange-Stark, cornerback/receiver: Of all the players attending, Franks has the most to prove to the Longhorns. While every other player attending in the 2010 class has an offer besides teammate James Haynes, Franks may be able to show the Longhorn coaches enough to earn an offer, particularly since Ross Apo's de-commitment leaves an open receiver scholarship, where some observes think Franks will end up in college. Unless the Longhorns make a strong move with him this weekend, probably including an offer, Franks will probably commit to Oklahoma after receiving an offer this week.
  • JW Walsh, Denton Guyer, quarterback: After watching his sophomore film, I named Walsh as my favorite 2011 quarterback and news that Walsh battled through a growth plate torn off by a tendon ($) on a throw early in the year only served to increase my man-crush. Add toughness to his list of attributes. Walsh might be unable to make the second camp, but his invite to the first may be an indication that the Longhorns are going to seriously target the Denton Guyer signal-caller as the quarterback they go after in the 2011 class. Count me as someone who would be happy to hear that.
  • James Haynes, West Orange-Stark, safety/receiver: Besides his high school teammate, Haynes also has a lot to prove, both in terms of his interest in the Longhorns (last week it was reported that he would attend the LSU camp instead). Haynes will camp at LSU before possibly making the trip to Austin, so there is a possibility that he commits to LSU if he receivers an offer at their camp -- the Tigers are currently the leader.
  • Mark Roberts, West Orange-Stark, 2011 wide receiver: Roberts is a tall receiver (6-3, 185) with excellent speed for his size (4.5 40) and may end up being a national recruit ($), though he hasn't yet received the same amount of attention as Miles Onyegbule or Trey Metoyer. Like Metoyer, Roberts needs to work on his explosiveness off the line of scrimmage.
  • Justin Thomas, West Orange-Stark, 2012 cornerback/receiver: Roberts and Thomas would probably be making the trip for the second camp with the rest of the younger players, but are likely travelling with their teammates for convenience -- the Longhorns don't seem to be specifically targeting either player by inviting them before the rest of their classmates. At 5-8, 160 pounds, Thomas is a smaller player like Trey Franks with the explosiveness and cutting ability expected in smaller players. Like Franks, his best position in college may end up being as a slot receiver where his height is not be as much of a liability as it is at corner.
  • Darius White, Forth Worth Dunbar, wide receiver: The top-ranked receiver by Rivals has been a confirmed attendee for some time, but it now seems as if he may not make the trip -- another move that may end up being a major blow to his Texas recruitment. White needs to make it to Austin this weekend so the staff can give him some love and help remind him why he liked Texas so much early in the process. It might also be beneficial for White to catch passes from Connor Wood and Case McCoy -- establishing the always-important comfort level between receiver and quarterback. A similar bond caused Ross Apo to follow Jake Heaps to BYU.
  • Lache Seastrunk, Temple, running back: After White, Seastrunk is the most important visitor for the camp. After positively gushing about Auburn after his last two visits to the plains, Longhorn fans will be waiting with bated breath for Seastrunk to say something positive about the Longhorns. Can the Texas coaching staff help him believe that he would be featured in the offense to the same extent that Gus Malzahn can? At some point in the next year and a half, Seastrunk will have to realize that even though he wants to win the Heisman as a freshman, that's just not going to happen -- he's not going to be enough touches anywhere because he's not an every-down back.
  • Trovon Reed, Thibodaux (La.), wide receiver: Even though Reed attended the first Junior Day, the Texas coaching staff and the speedy receiver both believed that the other party was simply not particularly interested. In a similar manner to the situation with DeMarco Cobbs, that represtented either a miscommunication on the part of the Texas staff or the position filling up on a time table that did not match up with the target. Was Reed really being honest when he said more than a month ago that Texas still stuck out to him?

Horns_bullet_mediumNotable absences:

  • Jake Matthews, Fort Bend Elkins, offensive lineman: The last update out of the Matthews camp had Jake planning on making it down to Austin during the summer for an unofficial visit. Apparently, that won't occur during any of the Texas camps. If Matthews doesn't manage to make it back to Austin to esablish some of the comfort level currently lacking, there are overwhelming odds suggesting that he will become an Aggie.
  • Corey Nelson, Dallas Skyline, linebacker: With Nelson, the situation is much less dire, despite popular perception of Nelson as a kid looking to extend the process simply to get as much attention as possible. Due to prior commitments, Nelson won't be able to make it this weekend ($), but will make an unofficial visit to Austin around the same time as DeMarco Cobbs -- the last several days of the overnight camp (June 16th and 17th), during which Will Mushcamp will undoubtedly pay him a lot of attention, as Muschamp has personally involved himself heavily in the recruitment of Nelson and Jordan Hicks.
  • DeMarco Cobbs, Tulsa Central, wide receiver: As mentioned when Ross Apo de-committed, the major positive of the situation was that Cobbs now has an open spot in the class that did not appear to be there last week, the same week during which Cobbs contacted the Texas coaching staff to express his renewed interest. After missing both Junior Days, it seems that Cobbs will finally make it down to Austin. Unlike previous promises, there appear to be no hold-ups -- if Cobbs doesn't make it down on the 16th or 17th as expected, the Longhorn staff will surely move on.
  • Jordan Hicks, Lakota West, linebacker: It's not a surprise that Hicks won't be able to make it down, as he is probably going to put off another visit likely until he begins to firm up his plans for official visits in the fall, when the Longhorns will likely get the highly-touted linebacker back to Austin. No particular cause for concern here.
  • Other receivers not previously on the radar: The Longhorns have not contacted DeAndrew White, Nate Askew, or Mike Davis about making it down for a camp -- it appears the Longhorns will focus on the receivers who already have offers instead of offering anyone new. Bad news for those DeAndrew White fans out there.

Horns_bullet_mediumMetoyer already with three favorites. Even though it's still extremely early in the process for players in the class of 2011, Whitehouse receiver Trey Metoyer, one of the best early bets for top receiver in the state, has already narrowed his focus ($) down to three schools: Texas, Oklahoma, and Texas A&M. Metoyer wants to stay close to home and make an early commitment, as well as compete for playing time right away. However, with three receivers in the current 2010 class and the possibility of adding two extremely talented players, that might not play out with Metoyer. Ultimately, he might be willing to compete, but playing time could be a major factor in his recruitment as it plays out. So too might be his loyalty to Oklahoma, as Metoyer says that he has "always been an OU fan."

Horns_bullet_mediumOnyegbule, as well. Another top 2011 receiver has also indicated his three favorites: Arlington receiver Miles Onyegbule says that Texas, Texas A&M, and Oklahoma State are his early favorites ($). Part of the reason that Texas is in the top three is the early attention paid to Onyegbule by receivers coach Bruce Chambers, whom Onyegbule said is paying him the most attention of any school. With excellent size at 6-4, Onyegbule has drawn some serious early attention, receiving verbal offers from Oklahoma State, Nebraska, and Tulsa. However, A&M has the benefit of commitments from two of Onyegbule's teammates -- 2010 prospects Matt and Luke Joeckel, the former being Onyegbule's quarterback.

Horns_bullet_mediumKatz thinks James needs to head back to school. After talking to various sources at the group workout in Oakland on Tuesday, Andy Katz says that if James is listening to what the scouts are saying, he needs to head back to school. Katz says that James was dominated by Sam Young in individual workouts on Monday and that scouts didn't like seeing James rely on the three-point shot, an unsurprising revelation given James', um, inconsistent handles. As I speculated the other day, this one will come down to the wire with James, so stay tuned.

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Well done GOBR

I tell you I’m walking around looking over our collective shoulders for the next one. Still, I’m confident in a couple of pleasant surprises. I think the kid from Ohio is coming to Austin, for one.

by HalfmileHorn on Jun 5, 2009 1:55 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Am I the only one...

who doesn’t want Seastrunk in Burnt Orange?

by Hippie Killer on Jun 5, 2009 2:27 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes. Yes you are.

"Football's so important in Texas. On the West Coast, it's a social. On the East Coast, it's a culture. Here, it's a religion."
-- Major Applewhite

by Sunkist on Jun 5, 2009 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

some of you people get too bitter, too fast, too easily.

by Displaced Longhorn on Jun 5, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seastrunk

reminds me of J. Charles. I hope he doesn’t fumble as much as J. Charles.

by Longhorns84 on Jun 5, 2009 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Unless he goes to ou...

or anytime we play his team, then he needs to fumble more.

We're Texas...and you're NOT

by Bevoboy94 on Jun 6, 2009 8:24 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That only really seemed to be a problem when Rucker was going throughi his treatment. JC should’ve been able to work through that time without fumbling, but he let it get to him, and Rucker helped him fix it. I don’t think there’s a reason to suspect there’d be a fumbling problem.

by burntorangehorn on Jun 6, 2009 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Responding to Displaced

No, I’m not bitter. And good posts, btw, here and in the past. Enjoy your offerings. Send more.

Early commitment, late, whatever. There are players whose, uh, style and presentation, I like. And those I don’t care for.

I hope Seastrunk is a two-time All-American, a top five draft choice, somebody Canton wants in a couple of decades. From what’s available to me, he doesn’t sound like somebody who (1) has a strong desire (even a passing desire) to wear orange; (2) seems to be playing this as a reality TV show, not a personal diary of his life; (3) craves attention over commitment (to school, coaches, teammates); (4) won’t be happy if he’s not THE back by the end of his freshman season (forget redshirting) and is a good bet to be one and done if he’s not THE guy pretty fast.

In sum, youtuber and a mefirsttoheckwiththerestofyou player. If I’m wrong, I’ll say so in ths space. Until then, make him a star Coach Chizik.

by edsp on Jun 6, 2009 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Those are concerns I mostly share, but as I said elsewhere, I think there are some examples of the types of guys a person with those traits can become. Some become Freddie Mitchell, channelling their desires for fame and attention into talk, drama, and unfulfilled quests for self-glorification. Some become Vince Young, channelling those desires into forming a cult of personality on the team, rallying their troops to become an unstoppable force. I don’t know which one Seastrunk will become, but I think either one could be possible. I think it could actually depend largely on where he goes to school.

by burntorangehorn on Jun 7, 2009 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can i just say...
battled through a growth plate torn off by a tendon

OMFG OUCH!

"From the waist down, Earl Campbell has the biggest legs I have ever seen on a running back." -John Madden

by run Bevo run on Jun 5, 2009 2:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Don't you think he's kind of a clown?

IMO, his antics over at the Auburn weekend are just an early warning sign. This guy will be a problem later on for whoever he signs with.

He has a ton of athletic ability. So does Terrell Owens and Ramonce Taylor. I’m not sure we need any “Me First” kind of guys on the team.

I’ve seen him in person too. To say he is small…is being polite.

by Hippie Killer on Jun 5, 2009 4:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Its all a little ridiculous

but lets face it, he’s young and surrounded by people who feed his ego, so cut him a break. I’d still like to see him in burnt orange. Besides, once he steps foot on campus (wherever he goes) he’ll be brought back down to earth by the coaching staff and the depth chart.

by owenh on Jun 5, 2009 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What he did was harmless

I’m not one to pull the “he’s only 18” card, but Seastrunk’s actions don’t have the telltale maliciousness that most bad-apple recruits’ exhibit.

by whoopspat on Jun 5, 2009 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Vince was a bit of a showboat himself. Some guys can turn that into charisma and leadership. Some turn it into egocentrism. I think he’s worth a shot.

by burntorangehorn on Jun 5, 2009 7:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

R. Taylor

was GREAT for Texas. R. Taylor just wasn’t the sharpest tool in the shed (great football player though).

by Longhorns84 on Jun 5, 2009 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

On a lighter note,

love the name change. Maybe “Afternoon Brewsky” will be full of good news when it comes to recruiting. Great stuff as always, don’t know where you find the time.

by NeTexHorn on Jun 5, 2009 6:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Big Roy

Who was Big Roy?

by hunghorn on Jun 5, 2009 10:34 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Roy Williams

Whenever Limas Sweed would make a big play, I would pound my chest and say, “Ghost of the playmaker,” referencing Roy Williams. Now Dan Buckner is carrying on the tradition. Ghost of the playmaker didn’t fit though, so I changed it.

by GhostofBigRoy on Jun 5, 2009 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What about Jackson

Will he be visiting?

by Grippe on Jun 5, 2009 11:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Tevin Jackson will be in town,

not sure if you are referring to another Jackson…

by GhostofBigRoy on Jun 5, 2009 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh sorry,

no word on Jeffcoat actually, as his father has kept his plans pretty secretive. It would be great for Jeffcoat to make it down, but he’s already been in town several times this spring, so getting Jeffcoat to Austin isn’t nearly as important as, say, Darius White or Jake Matthews.

by GhostofBigRoy on Jun 5, 2009 11:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

D. White

If he doesn’t show, should Texas just forget about him and go after Cobbs/ Reed? I doubt he’ll go to Texas if he doesn’t even go to their camp. Right?

by Longhorns84 on Jun 5, 2009 11:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

It would be a blow if he doesn't show,

but I don’t think the Longhorns give up on him easily because Cobbs and Reed are much less likely to become Longhorns, with Reed probably a longer shot than Cobbs.

by GhostofBigRoy on Jun 5, 2009 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Other programs....

…..manage to recruit the Top-100 guys until the very last evening. Why shouldn’t we give it a try?

--- All roads to the Big-XII Championship lead through OU/RRS. It's not just another game! We're all about championships here. ---

by HornChamps on Jun 7, 2009 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Recruiting Quesitons

I was wondering which of the 3 WR’s with outstanding offers has the skill set that would be most unique to the 2010 class – which is to say who is the most unlike C. Jones, Harris, and even Terrell and Phillips who are likely to end up at different positions.

Next, I was thinking about the changes at Texas and throughout the Big 12 and how the transformation in the offenses have caused a major influx in the number of WR’s and DB’s that are brought in each year. This makes sense to me but it got me to thinking and I was curious what positions subsequently have fewer players being brought in. The only thing I could come up with was that there really isn’t such thing as a true FB anymore and maybe you can take one less LB each year. I was just curious if a new paradigm has been established or if it’s still to be seen what sort of numbers can be expected at all the positions.

by andmyster on Jun 6, 2009 10:32 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

The answer to your first question I think is

Darius White, because of his size and explosiveness, then Cobbs with his combination of size and speed, which has drawn comparisons to Michael Crabtree.

As to your second question, you are right about fewer fullbacks (kids who now end up at linebacker) and possibly fewer linebackers, though I think Mack Brown and Will Muschamp want to make sure that they have a team capable of defending a serious, old-school downhill running attack, hence the emphasis on defending, not just running the ball, out of the I-formation. I think the biggest chance might be in the size of the linebackers taken, as I mentioned in my post about the new spread linebacker.

by GhostofBigRoy on Jun 6, 2009 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chris Brown is that downhill runner, and it’s why I feel like I’m living in the Twilight Zone when people talk up Murray but overlook Brown. I’d rather face Murray any day of the week.

So right now UT has Jones, Terrell (possible hybrid-back or TE), and Harris. Not that I don’t already have high hopes for those three, but I think this class could really use a spearhead like one of the offered three (White, Cobbs, Reed), and possibly more than one. But what would happen if one of those three were to commit? Would it be likely that offers would remain on the table for one or both of the other two? Or would that be that?

Last note: could someone post the list of players confirmed? It’s against the rules to post extensive portions of the article, but not to list the players who have confirmed.

by burntorangehorn on Jun 6, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

2010 list

Still a Blaine Irby fan

by patienthornsfan on Jun 6, 2009 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’s the list of recruiting commitments, not of players confirmed for the camp. Thanks though.

by burntorangehorn on Jun 6, 2009 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just want to say

2 very good questions man. So much more refreshing than the standard, “what have you heard in the last 15 minutes about seastrunk”.

"From the waist down, Earl Campbell has the biggest legs I have ever seen on a running back." -John Madden

by run Bevo run on Jun 6, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Amen to the good questions

And thanks to Roy’s Ghost for the insight and analysis that comes in fresh almost every day.

The issue of recruiting MORE defensive backs is one that’s been in my head for a long time. Horns played all 10 DBs they had last season (Ishie was injured) and needed more. That included three true freshmen.

Seems to me if they’re going to play five DBs at least half the time (when the game has not been decided) AND use a bunch of safeties and corners on special teams, they need to recruit MORE than they are. I would think they’d bring in three DBs every year, four on occasion.

A former work friend was a man of few words; when he said Texas needs more speed guys, it caught my ear. He’s right. Can’t have too many.

by edsp on Jun 6, 2009 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

OB is reporting that Reed is now not coming...

Didn’t really see that one happening anyway. Just hope it doesn’t affect the Seastrunk recruitment.

by jw4425 on Jun 6, 2009 2:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree, and after thinking about it...

I think this may be more of a positive sign, since Seastrunk is coming to Austin despite Reed going to LSU.

by jw4425 on Jun 6, 2009 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’ve known a couple of guys who joined the Army for the “buddy program,” which they think means they’ll be in the same basic training platoon, same skill/tech training, and same first duty unit—not that it really worked out that way for any of them. Point is, one never knows what’s going through a kid’s head. I think you’re doing pretty well at it, though.

by burntorangehorn on Jun 6, 2009 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Reed was always a longshot

and maybe the fact that he isn’t coming is a sign the Seastrunk is starting to pay attention to his own future instead of just hanging out with friends having fun and goofing around with the recruiting spotlight. (his comment of playing with Lattimore was pretty questionable too—as Coach Brown said in regards to UT taking only one RB last year—elite RBs generally don’t want a crowd of other talent)

I wonder if Seastrunk’s apology to Coach Saban was influenced by someone like maybe a coach at UT or LSU suggesting that he reign his fun level back before he spun out of control. Glad he did apologize and move back away from the Bryce Brown show.

Darius White is a solid prospect at Texas and I really think that we land him. He has been very professional about his recruitment and he is just checking his options. I have to believe that he goes with his initial gut and that he can someday soon be …..dare I say it…..wearing NO. 4 at Texas????

by jkovach on Jun 6, 2009 3:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

He’ll overlap one year on the team with Buckner, so I don’t think he’d start out with that number, but changes happen.

by burntorangehorn on Jun 8, 2009 7:01 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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