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Tim Floyd resigns - first chink in USC's armor?

Ever since the Reggie Bush Heisman debacle and the allegations that soon followed, I know many of my fellow BON'ers have shared my interest in the compliance of USC with NCAA rules.

Things got much uglier over the last few weeks, when new allegations made the rounds about the basketball team. Nope, the dirty deeds were not limited to football.

Tim Floyd threw more gasoline on the fire today, when he resigned. He claims innocence ... but this sure seems like a strange way to prove you're not guilty. He was accused to handing an envelope of cash to a handler. No joke.

Tim Floyd flies the coop


Last week, the LA Times also had some interesting coverage ... all about how the AD and the head coaches were being so tight-lipped about their situations. Allegedly, the NCAA is just about finished (finally) with their investigations.

So will this affect their MNC seasons? Hmmmm ....

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Wow....

finally….after all these years maybe some movement. The NCAA has been absolutely pathetic in its handling of USC/Bush…can’t believe they are even investigating this mere allegation of cash in hand to a basketball recruit.

The irony…just what Vince Young needs now….his long awaited Heisman!!! Yeah, that will make him look great in the Titan’s eyes. (Houstonians hate the Titans, we do hope that VY does get to move on…I digress)

NCAA….ummm….Too late, too little no matter what the NCAA does now. The NCAA is to blame as much as USC, and after learning more from Auburn’s “self-reported” violations to justify giving their recruits a good time it is obvious that the lesson out of all of this is the NCAA needs to be the ones investigated, fired, and fixed.

I heard a blurb from a radio interview with Pete Carrol the other day (definitely within the last 7 days) and he was talking about how USC has been kept in the dark regarding the investigation….he was ummming and ahhhhing. If I knew how to find it the link would be nice…..it was pretty obvious that he was full of it.

by jkovach on Jun 9, 2009 7:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Interesting comment by Pete Carroll

Petey boy also said something unreal and incredible during the annual butter-up-the-alums tour. He was asked about the allegations and said something like, “this is what happens when you’re on top … everybody tries to take you down.” So ridiculous, as though the NCAA tries to take down top programs. There was a great opportunity there for a good PR comment, but nope.

Also, as far as being kept in the dark, LA Times and Yahoo!Sports both have reported that USC was invited to have its own lawyers sit in on several witness interviews. So that would be a big, fat lie.

Watch out, I bite.

by EddieTheAlbinoSquirrel on Jun 9, 2009 9:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Fox (NCAA) is guarding the hen house (USC)

Here is a great article on USC and the NCAA investigation (or lack thereof) and why the NCAA is so lame (Someone please teach me how to paste a link.-I cut and paste and this is what I get):

http://www.latimes.com/sports/college/usc/la-sp-usc-silence31-2009may31,0,6223829,full.story

NCAA Problem No. 1 is: Lack of subpoena power. The NCAA must be able to force people to testify under oath. Having received a scholarship from an NCAA participant school, Reggie Bush (and all scholarship recipients), and all coaches, university employees, etc. should be compelled, if subpoenaed, to appear before the NCAA and testify UNDER OATH.

The real bottom line of why the NCAA is so impotent is at the end of the story—

“J. Brent Clark, a one-time NCAA investigator who practices law in Oklahoma, agreed, but said he was not surprised that the USC inquiry has taken so long.

“The NCAA is under no real sense of urgency to wrap this up, even though justice delayed is justice denied,” Clark said. “The NCAA is a de-facto cartel, and its product is big-time college football. USC is a major component of that. The NCAA doesn’t want USC to be off television or ineligible for bowls.”

The article also reported that schools are supposed to regulate and report themselves to maintain membership in the NCAA and that USC’s failure to investigate or even inquire into all of these allegations is probably going to be their downfall. I think (if true) that allowing a star recruit to get his parents a house while he plays ball should be the punished violation—but apparently the lack of saying “sorry—we think something bad happened” after finding out is the NCAA violation.

Whatever, USC has tried to drag this out until nobody cares, and, even I don’t care anymore…you can’t recreate VY getting his Heisman…thank GOD that we won the NC

by jkovach on Jun 9, 2009 9:23 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

write some words like “here is a link”, highlight it. click the chain icon above the text box (chain = link). paste the URL. and you’re done.

by Displaced Longhorn on Jun 9, 2009 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Supoena power"?

“Under Oath”? I wasn’t aware that the NCAA was a court of law, nor should they be.

by orangeblood1 on Jun 10, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

True, but the NCAA could stipulate that a school must agree to appear upon request (a de facto subpoena) for such a “hearing” in order to maintain NCAA affiliation.

The NCAA cannot become a court or law, but could mimic it through the appropriate use carrots and sticks.

by burntorangehorn on Jun 10, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

BOUT DAMN TIME!!!

“NCAA….ummm….Too late, too little no matter what the NCAA does now. The NCAA is to blame as much as USC, and after learning more from Auburn’s "self-reported" violations to justify giving their recruits a good time it is obvious that the lesson out of all of this is the NCAA needs to be the ones investigated, fired, and fixed.”

Finally!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The NCAA really really really crapped the bed on this one. FWIW, the NCAA is now a laughingstock, not USC.

I SINCERELY HOPE THAT THE NCAA TAXES THAT ASS AND STRIPS THOSE CHEATING SOB’S OF 2 NC’S, SCHOLARSHIPS, MONEY, AND BASICALLY "SMU’S " THEIR ENTIRE ATHLETICS PROGRAM…. I HAVE NO REMORSE FOR WHAT THEY DID, AND I HOPE THIS BLOW RESONATES NOT ONLY THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE NCAA, BUT THE CRAPPY, EARTHQUAKE SHAKEN, DUSTY STATE OF CALIFORNIA!

(Had to vent about how the NCAA is a joke, and how much I dislike USC)

by greenspointexas on Jun 10, 2009 3:19 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Great news! At this rate, when can we expect the serious investigations of OU to start?

by burntorangehorn on Jun 10, 2009 9:22 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Clearly the Mayans are in cahoots with the crimson-creamers.

by burntorangehorn on Jun 10, 2009 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I definitely will not be prematurely

celebrating any action by the NCAA….I still don’t trust them to really hit USC hard.

Oh yeah, and Bohmar’s dad just keeps teasing us with his information to take on OU. Wish he’d finally spill the beans. Again, the NCAA should have the power to force him to testify under oath.

I think the NCAA better get after it and better try to vinidcate themselves. The government’s current interest into the BCS and National Championship playoff issues is inviting the government to take one more step and get involved in NCAA investigation matters. Please don’t misunderstand me, I don’t want federal govt. involvement, but if the arrogant BCS bowlers won’t fix their broken system, and the NCAA won’t enforce its own rules, the government may have to get involved.

The Federal Govt. actually should already be involved from an IRS/Tax perspective on some of these gift allegations. If the Bushes were given over $10k in housing for the year, that triggers gift tax matters. Why isn’t the IRS all over that? Additionally, the Bohmar scandal and under the table non-workingf or wages…..all potential tax issues and the NCAA should be working with the IRS to find out about this stuff.

by jkovach on Jun 10, 2009 10:27 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Tax matters may make a difference

If there’s anything that makes the feds angry enough to act, it’s if you deprive them of their money. Even Bomar wasn’t stupid enough to lie to the IRS, although that’s one of the big reasons he got caught.

by TheElusiveShadow on Jun 10, 2009 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I believe the Feds are involved

In the LA Times articles linked above, there is a reference to federal interest in the Bush situation.

Watch out, I bite.

by EddieTheAlbinoSquirrel on Jun 10, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Guess we shouldn't expect the Feds to act any faster than the NCAA

….and does anyone know what happened with the civil lawsuit against Bush….is that still pending?

by jkovach on Jun 10, 2009 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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