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Afternoon Brewsky Bears Poor News For Baylor

Horns_bullet_medium"Three-Ring Circus." On March 30, Ahmad Dixon told Burnt Orange Beat that he was 100% committed ($) to becoming a Texas Longhorn. That all changed less than two months later, when Dixon switched his commitment to Baylor. Less than a month after that, Dixon was still "100%" committed ($) to signing for his LOI next February to stay in his home town of Waco. Now, having been committed to the Bears for less than two months (and no longer possessing an offer from Texas), Dixon is currently "solid" ($) and/or "pretty firm" ($) in his commitment to Baylor, but plans on traveling to Auburn this weekend with Lache Seastrunk (his third visit), saying that he wants a chance to improve his game and pick up tips he can pass on to his teammates to help them improve.

Yet, Dixon also says that he, Seastrunk, and Seastrunk's close friend Trovon Reed, who planned on making the trip before having to cancel, met at a camp in Vegas this summer and discussed playing together, enough to prompt one tied-in Texas recruiting writer to dub the group "a three-ring circus." When asked if Auburn is recruiting him, Dixon gave contradictory answers to Scout and Rivals, telling Scout that Auburn isn't recruiting him and that they just want him to visit, "just in case," but told Rivals that Auburn has been recruiting him. So, which one is it?

Dixon may also stop in at an LSU camp if he and Seastrunk manage to leave Auburn in a timely fashion and there are rumors that he will visit Texas A&M as well. If all that isn't enough to cause consternation among Baylor fans, Dixon also told Scout that he's thinking about taking some visits in the fall. But hey, he said he was 100% committed two months ago, so that has to mean something, right? Right?

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Horns_bullet_medium(Final?) Obligatory Seastrunk mention. Speaking of Seastrunk, this might be one of the last updates here in terms of the Lache Seastrunk recruitment. During the 7-on-7 championships last week Seastrunk said that he wasn't sure if the Longhorns were still recruiting him because he hadn't been in contact with the coaches, citing his busy summer school schedule. As mentioned above, that busy schedule isn't enough to keep him from visiting Auburn for the third time, but Seastrunk says he might take an official visit to Texas in the fall.

Coming from Seastrunk, that's not particularly believable, as he showed up late for the first Junior Day and then skipped out on the Texas camp in June and there are rumors that other coaches are beginning to tire of Seastrunk's antics, so his "super funny" plans might not draw as many laughs as he anticipates. Most Texas fans are certainly tired of the circus surrounding Seastrunk. So, it's probably about time to officially close the book on Lache Seastrunk and Texas -- the writing has certainly been on the wall for some time.

Horns_bullet_mediumGood/bad Darius White news. First the bad news. White says that his mother, once considered to favor the Longhorns, really likes Oklahoma ($) at this point (possibly because of the closer proximity to Fort Worth), meaning that Oklahoma may now be the favorite. The fact that Oklahoma is recruiting both of his teammates (Sander and Favors) is no doubt helping to sway White, who also reportedly says that he likes the fact that OU always has good quarterbacks (and the last terrible quarterback to play consistently at Texas was?).

So it now appears that both his mother, thought to be the major key in his recruitment, and his teammates, who certainly have a strong influence on White, are now in the corner of the Sooners. I mentioned this in my last Afternoon Brewsky, and I'll say it again for what will hopefully be the last time, but it is extremely unlikely that the Longhorns will pursue Rashod Favors -- it's just not worth talking about right now unless something changes. If White is going to swing back towards the Longhorns, it's almost undoubtedly going to be without any chance for him to play with his high school teammates in college.

And oh yeah, the good news was that Texas is in his top five, along with Florida, Texas Tech, USC, and Oklahoma. And sorry, because that's not really good news at all, as it would be a monumental surprise had White chosen to eliminate the Longhorns at this point. He's also considering taking a visit down to Florida in the next several weeks, so they could be moving up his list in the near future as well. I guess it's all really just bad news...

Horns_bullet_mediumFrom the Land of Miscellany. There are now rumors that Michael Wilcoxon, after speaking with the coaches, is going to take some more time with his decision before making it official...Out of respect to the privacy of Derek Johnson, I won't go into details about the nature of his personal issues, but it is sounding more likely that he will be able to work them out and be back in town for the start of fall practice...Evangel Christian's Jermauria Rasco will take his second unofficial visit to campus this weekend, excellent news for the Longhorns. However, conventional wisdom holds that LSU still leads for the star defensive end, who may end up being a top 10 national recruit...The Pirates have reportedly may well-above slot offers to both Colton Cain and Josh Urban and Jacob Cown, who was not expected to become eligible to play at Texas, signed with the Orioles. Urban may still end up at Texas, but it's becoming increasingly likely that Cain does not. 

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Out of respect to the privacy of Derek Johnson, I won’t go into details about the nature of his personal issues

This is one of the reasons I like this site so much. You guys/gal understand that these athletes are people and everything about them should not be available for public scrutiny.

by NeTexHorn on Jul 17, 2009 3:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Agreed.

Good to hear he’s likely to make it back. Hope everything works out for him back home. Other than that, pretty much all bad news though. Kinda bringing me down on a Friday, GoBR!

The Seastrunk situation is such a joke. Reminds me of Martellus Bennett.

by ctex80 on Jul 17, 2009 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I won't go into them either

but, I’ll just say what is being reported makes me think there is much less chance he’ll be back than when we all thought it was just homesickness. This story has progressed and has the same feel as the Jerrell Wilkerson story, and San Antonio is alot closer to Austin than Hoxie, Arkansas is.

Hope I’m wrong.

by Horncasting on Jul 19, 2009 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

This is why...

I do not touch recruiting in the Daily Roundup. These are 16, 17, 18 years old kids and feelings change daily, like their clothes.

We tend to forget that they are kids…

by dimecoverage on Jul 17, 2009 3:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Attitudes for Seastrunk appear to be changing...

I remember about a month ago, just after Seastrunk went to Auburn and called out Nick Saban. I said I didn’t want this dude and almost got burned at the stake. Good to see everyone is starting to come around and see what a clown this turd is.

by Hippie Killer on Jul 17, 2009 4:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Seastrunk

The only way I could see his announcement being “super funny” is if he announced he was not going to play college football because he was really Ron Weaver/McKelvey and has already used up his eligibilty twice.

by billb on Jul 17, 2009 4:12 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm not gonna lie...

but I would find it “super funny” if he decided, with times and the economy being what they are now, that the path to immediate financial security ran through the CFL. Imagine the fun he and Harrell could have in Saskatchewan!

Every time I feel down and depressed, I think of seven simple words by a true wise man, Matt Leinart: "I still think we're the better team" and I usually end up hurting myself by laughing so hard.

by SurferHorn257 on Jul 19, 2009 2:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think he’s a dope who can’t get enough ego-stroking, but I still wouldn’t mind seeing him come to Texas. He’s doing nothing to endear himself, though—that much is for certain.

by burntorangehorn on Jul 17, 2009 4:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Seastrunk

I sway back and forth on guys like this. My reference is Ramonce, who i loved a million times over while he was on the field, but can’t imagine what a complete pain the ass he was to deal with on a day to day basis (from a teammate and coaching perspective). I said at the time that mack said “screw it”, when he recruited him, and he might have learned his lesson.

by rchorns on Jul 17, 2009 4:25 PM CDT reply actions  

Ramonce's problem wasn't just attitude

the guy had legal issues since middle school, which is supposedly why a lot of schools backed off him

by Beergut on Jul 17, 2009 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

rchorns, beergut

Two great points — Mack learning his lesson and Taylor needing two porters to help with the baggage he brought when he signed.

I think Ramonce and, a year later, Robert Joseph, changed Mack Brown’s perspective, is causing him to look at potential recruits differently. Scholarships are few and risking them on low- or questionable-character players, regardless of talent, is a low percentage move.

by edsp on Jul 17, 2009 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

And guys like Finley that leave too early really irk Brown.

by jkovach on Jul 17, 2009 10:56 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

True

I realize they aren’t exactly the same. I was speaking more to the idea of bringing on a one of a kind talent who, for whatever reason, seems destined to become a distraction and/or not be a team player.

by rchorns on Jul 17, 2009 5:48 PM CDT reply actions  

So Auburn is the drunk slutty chick?

Everyone gets a turn and Dixon wants a go. I can’t imagine Texas still recruiting him-too much talent at rb in 2011 to worry about him.

With Nelson gone maybe we should look at Favors a little harder and Patterson is a good looking athlete but has played out of position in hs I think.

by jkovach on Jul 17, 2009 6:26 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Dixon

If we assume he’s solid at Baylor, maybe he’s looking to poach talent from other universities, but I wonder if Dixon’s just having second thoughts looking around thinking he’s a one man team. Maybe Texas should consider talking to him.

Seastrunk may be an amazing talent, but he seems like more trouble than he’s worth. Yes, I know the argument about being a young, talented teenager…doesn’t wash. His complaint about Texas is that we’re not paying enough attention to him, not about how much he wants or is seriously considering Texas. Not about what he likes about Texas, not about how he thinks he could help Texas, not about being a national contender every year at Texas. He thinks Texas isn’t paying him enough attention…hey, that goes both ways.

Don’t know exactly what’s going on at Auburn or with Chizik, but they may be pretty desperate for talent. All they may need is a few signature wins to draw attention and garner more recruits in subsequent years, and whatever they have to do to put up with odd, attention getting antics they just suck it up and deal with until they have the talent base to supplant it. Texas has an amazing talent base. With the team attitude it had last season and seems to be carrying forward into the upcoming title run season, the sum is greater than its parts. However talented Seastrunk and Nelson may be, they could throw a cog into team chemistry and reduce it to it’s parts. Auburn may be all parts at this stage in it’s program, so adding a talented player, however problematic, may be a good play in the short run.

The pride and winning tradition of The University of Texas will not be entrusted to the weak or the timid.

Hook'em

by longhorns1 on Jul 18, 2009 2:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Other than that he picked atm over what I perceive as better offers, I don’t think I’ve read or heard anything about Nelson that would lead me to believe that he’d be disruptive toward team chemistry.

by burntorangehorn on Jul 18, 2009 8:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed, I shouldn’t have placed him in the same line of thought. My thoughts on Nelson still go back the Hook’em Horns down sign. Other than in grade school when you have may messed with a girl you had a crush on, do you ever dis a girl you want to be with for the long term (3-4 years)? I don’t care how excited or carried away he got. Either he’s very immature and a flake in which case he may not last long with Coach Boom, or Texas isn’t where he wants to be.

The pride and winning tradition of The University of Texas will not be entrusted to the weak or the timid.

Hook'em

by longhorns1 on Jul 18, 2009 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Texas is not going to consider talking to him

because they told him he no longer has a scholarship offer. Texas is done with Dixon.

by Wescott Eberts (GoBR) on Jul 18, 2009 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Re: Auburn & Chizik
All they may need is a few signature wins to draw attention and garner more recruits in subsequent years, and whatever they have to do to put up with odd, attention getting antics they just suck it up and deal with until they have the talent base to supplant it.

You are 100% correct, sir. Saban has been eating Auburn’s lunch in recruiting the past 2+ years, so Chizik needs to do whatever he can, and put up with almost anything, to prevent these repeated beatings from his #1 rival.

The early returns are looking very favorable for him. It looks like he’s betting his future on a lot of precocious, mercurial young men. If the gamble pays off, he could rocket to the top. If not, with the patience of Auburn’s Board of Trustees, some other school will be getting a fine defensive coordinator within the next two years…

Faustian.

Friends may come and go, but enemies accumulate.
- Thomas Jones

by beast in bama on Jul 19, 2009 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

2009 class

So, Franklin seems to be the only one left that Texas has a good shot at getting right? D. White is falling off the radar fast, and Franklin and White are the only ones I thought we had a good shot at. Hick is a far shot to me because he’s in Ohio.

Dixon seems really confused. I’m kinda glad Texas lost him as well. I’m with Mack, I want the players who want to come here. I would hate to see Texas recruit D. White’s friends just to get him. I heard the Favors kid is pretty good though, but Texas doesn’t really need a safety in this class.

by Longhorns84 on Jul 17, 2009 9:19 PM CDT reply actions  

What do you mean “D. White is falling off the radar fast”?

by burntorangehorn on Jul 17, 2009 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

He and his mom are now in love with OU

--- All roads to the Big-XII Championship lead through OU/RRS. It's not just another game! We're all about championships here. ---

by HornChamps on Jul 18, 2009 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Are you going on GoBR’s assessment that White and his mother also like OU? I haven’t heard anything indicating that they are in love with OU, but not in love with UT.

by burntorangehorn on Jul 18, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

At a guess....

Better than 50/50: Franklin & White
Just less…45/55: Hicks
Considerably less…40/60: Matthews
Fat chance: Seastrunk, Cobbs, Reed
No idea: Jeffcoat

Of course I’d love to see us sign Franklin, White, Hicks, Matthews, and Jeffcoat, but I think among the remaining offers and potential commits, Texas’ biggest need is at LB, so I’m really hoping we sign Franklin and Hicks. Although we don’t have a particular position need for Jeffcoat or Matthews, their polished skills because of their dads would almost certainly mean they would be starters by mid freshman season. White’s listed as about 15 lighter than Roy Williams and may not be as acrobatic, but he’d be another great target for GG. Maybe after the summer and hopefully Franklin and White have committed to Texas, GoBr could comment on the probability of the remaining offers, position need at Texas, and potential very talented offers/commits for 2011 that will blunt whoever we miss(ed) out on for 2010.

The pride and winning tradition of The University of Texas will not be entrusted to the weak or the timid.

Hook'em

by longhorns1 on Jul 18, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Do e win it all without Ramonce?

Vince is Vince but Ramonce made a ton of big plays.

www.barkingcarnival.com

by Sailor Ripley on Jul 17, 2009 9:45 PM CDT reply actions  

no....

we dont go undefeated without him on the field…ramonce was a playmaker.

better question: DO WE REPEAT IN ’06 WITH HIM ON THE TEAM?

look up -- get up -- dont ever give up

by tex806 on Jul 19, 2009 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

I can see us winning it all in 2005 without him though it would be a little harder...

but I think we are a lot better in 2006 with him. Who knows, we might have still lost to OSU but we could’ve won against KSU and A&M with a hurt Colt.

Oh well..whatifs are fun. Seastrunk is not a talent we pass up. He can change the game with one play and you always need those types of players.

"Football's so important in Texas. On the West Coast, it's a social. On the East Coast, it's a culture. Here, it's a religion."
-- Major Applewhite

by Sunkist on Jul 20, 2009 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

D. White loves texas

I’m not buying the hype that D. White isn’t Texas bound.I sat behind him, his folks, Favors, and Patterson. I think he wants Texas. I hate to say this, but I didn’t think he looked at all imposing like I would have thought. I think he wears the hoodie sweatshirts to cover
his lack of size/bulk. I think he is good from his video, but my money is that he isn’t the next Roy Williams. I’ll defer to GBR on that one though.

by jkovach on Jul 17, 2009 10:53 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

I’d take Seastrunk every day of the week. There is not a single RB in next years class as talented as him. Unless he has legal issues like Ramonce did, you take the chance that his flakiness does not affect his play on the field. This could help explain why Seastrunk is incredible yet his Temple team struggles to win games.

by miketag on Jul 17, 2009 11:25 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

btw, what has Nelson done to make you question his character or imply he would create a problem with team chemistry?

by miketag on Jul 18, 2009 4:24 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Texas fans are like the story of Chicken Little

by Displaced Longhorn on Jul 18, 2009 1:54 PM CDT reply actions  

That’s what I’m thinking. The second a report comes out that someone like Seastrunk, White, or Matthews might like another school as well, it’s reactionary time.

by burntorangehorn on Jul 18, 2009 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Definitely doesn’t look good for Baylor

And then there is this from ESPN

Defensive back Tristian Holt drops Bears for Missouri
The Tigers have picked up their 8th pledge for Class 2010 in Tristan Holt, a 6-foot-0, 185-pound cornerback from Gilmer, Texas, who has decommitted from Baylor.

by NeTexHorn on Jul 18, 2009 2:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Keeping It Real on Lache

Let’s be honest – 4.3 forty RBs do not grow on trees. Let Lache go through his process – then welcome him with open arms if he comes to Austin. When you have 6 TEs on scholly – at least 3 of which are useless – I don’t mind investing in one super talented but questionable character athlete. Best case – he develops and matures – worst case go down to 5 TEs on scholly.

by realmccoy on Jul 18, 2009 2:55 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

No way

I don’t want to turn into the mid 90s Portland JailBlazers.

Or the current Oklahoma Sooners.

by pleaseplaykindle on Jul 18, 2009 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ditto

I agree with PPK. Teams with less talent have won it all….OSU over Miami, Nebraska over anybody. Coaching’s gotta count for something.

The pride and winning tradition of The University of Texas will not be entrusted to the weak or the timid.

Hook'em

by longhorns1 on Jul 18, 2009 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

OSU

You could argue that Ohio State isn’t one of those. Their offense was predicated on the old Big 10 “run-dominated, conservative passing game.” The focal point of that was Clarett, who proved to be an amazing talent (that one year) and also exhibited a complete lack of character. Criminal records don’t lie. Usually.

I say if Seastrunk wants to come, then fine. But Mack will definitely need to put his foot down and tell him he’s not going to take any of his BS. Seastrunk sounds like the person would need constant reminders as well.

Every time I feel down and depressed, I think of seven simple words by a true wise man, Matt Leinart: "I still think we're the better team" and I usually end up hurting myself by laughing so hard.

by SurferHorn257 on Jul 19, 2009 2:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Y'all are getting a little out of hand with Seastrunk.
  1. He’s a kid. Not all kids need to be mature. Let him enjoy the process. Sure we’re all a little annoyed by some of it…but he’s yet to say one bad thing about Texas. He’s not dissing us, he’s just not saying anything about us.
  1. One bad kid doesn’t make our team the Portland JailBlazers. The kid might not be the most mature of kids (from what everyone is saying) but that doesn’t mean he’ll ruin our team. The QB is the leader of the offense and I trust GG to keep Seastrunk somewhat tamed. Seastrunk knows that in order to make the NFL, you have to first succeed in college.
  1. His talent is undeniable. We are all aching for a talent like his in our backfield..lined up at WR…etc. Will he help us win ballgames? You betcha and he’ll likely help us win quite a few.

"Football's so important in Texas. On the West Coast, it's a social. On the East Coast, it's a culture. Here, it's a religion."
-- Major Applewhite

by Sunkist on Jul 20, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't like the drama either, but...

The kid doesn’t have a criminal record and doesn’t seem to have trouble in the classroom. He is a ‘kid’ still, so I give him slack in that department. Obviously, I don’t like this aspect of it but in his defense it sounds like not only is he getting inundated with coaches treating him like a romantic conquest, but he also has all these internet and magazine ‘journalists’ sniffing his jock, each looking to get some ‘meat’ for their fan base. Depending on your character it must seem like a big f*in joke to some of these kids. In that regard I sort of appreciate his moxie and his ‘f-you’ attitude to those earnest guys just hoping he will say something positive about going to their school. Would I rather he went the Traylon Shead route and committed already so he could get back to working on his game? Sure. But I would still pick this guy for my team in an instant.

by Rickyspub on Jul 20, 2009 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Portland JailBlazers?

We’re more like the Minnesota Vikings.

Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes. If they get mad, you're a mile away AND you have their shoes.

by Caradoc on Jul 20, 2009 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

aha

cruises where you ply the recruits with women of ill-repute.

The secret to Mack’s success in recruiting is OUT!!!!

by Beergut on Jul 20, 2009 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was responding specifically to this.
I don’t mind investing in one super talented but questionable character athlete. Best case – he develops and matures – worst case go down to 5 TEs on scholly.

And I stand by what I said before. I disagree strongly that its worth investing in questionable character athletes. To imply that the worst case is that we lose a scholarship is wrong — we hurt the image of the university, which I think matters outside of the football world too.

by pleaseplaykindle on Jul 21, 2009 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think we need to define questionable character athlete...

I don’t think Seastrunk (as far as I can tell from this distance) has questionable character. I think guys who commit and then decommit have more character issues than Seastrunk has shown up to now, but even they don’t really have ‘questionable’ character if they really just changed their minds. Guys like Perilloux had questionable character, while I don’t think Brantley did. Seastrunk will ultimately be judged not by his recruitment but by his play and actions in college and beyond. If he continues to act the primadonna, he had better well back it up by exemplary play on the field or he’ll just end up another footnote as a 5-star bust.

by Rickyspub on Jul 21, 2009 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Matthews down to two...

Perhaps someone has posted this elsewhere, but I saw on the ESPN Recruiting site that Matthews is down to the Aggies and USC. Oh well, he was looking like a longshot, but I thought the longer it went on the better chance we might have had. He says he wants to commit by the end of the summer.

by Rickyspub on Jul 21, 2009 9:11 AM CDT reply actions  

Street Agents, Mentors, Advisors

I suspect that there have been several times that Texas hasn’t recruited a kid or backed off someone for reasons we will never fully know. I read a story about Mack Brown and recruiting. He was asked about dirty recruits, and he said he asked Joe Paterno what to do about it. Coach Paterno said “stay away.” When asked if he reported potential violations, he said the NCAA did nothing about it so there was not really a reason to get involved. Coach Brown said that he just follows Coach Paterno’s advice and stays away and moves on to the next recruit. If a kid is dirty in recruiting you can just imagine the problems he may give you down the road. I think Texas is doing a great job of getting kids verbally committed early and staying out of the dirty water.

by jkovach on Jul 21, 2009 12:29 PM CDT reply actions  

do you remember where this story is?

not disputing it, just think it would make interesting reading seeing Brown’s thoughts on recruiting today

by Beergut on Jul 21, 2009 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

So I said, “Joe, what do you do with guys that are being bought?” And he said, “Stay away from them.” I said, “Do you turn them in?” And he said, “Nah, it doesn’t do any good. Just stay away from them.” So we try to recruit guys that want to come to Texas, and if they don’t want to come, very honestly that’s okay.

This is a problem. There needs to be timely, effective, and accessible recourse for things like this. What’s so hard about making a sort of inspector general for the NCAA?

by burntorangehorn on Jul 23, 2009 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

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