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Horns_bullet_mediumBreaking into the film room: Malcolm Brown. Two interesting facts about the Malcolm Brown video on Rivals. One, even though the film is broken into two sections, both videos show the same play. Redundant. Second, the free video on YouTube begins with two incredible plays that Rivals doesn't have at all. Do they put any effort into acquiring film for their paying members? It appears not. End rant.

Brown is often noted for his physical style of running, actually quite similar to the punishment Vondrell McGee used to mete out to defenders while at Longview that earned him the nickname of "Bulldozer." Perhaps Brown is "Bulldozer Redux" then, or "Bulldozer Deuce." I think I like the second one better. In any case, the *free* YouTube video(see below) provides ample demonstration of Brown's physicality with the football, while Rivals shows little of it (guess I wasn't totally done with my Rivals rant). Listed at an even six feet, Brown is probably closer to 5-10 or 5-11 and honestly appeared shorter than me (I'm 5-11) when I walked by him at the spring game. How tall he really is doesn't matter that much, especially for a running back -- the important part is that he has a low center of gravity and runs with excellent pad level, both attributes that make him difficult to tackle.

In fact, arm tackles simply don't seem to do the trick with Brown, who slips right through them easily. It's truly hard to overemphasize his uncanny ability to break tackles. As mentioned before, it's his center of gravity and pad level that help him break all those tackles, but his balance and the strength of his legs are equally impressive -- there's little doubt from his film that he can already put up some impressive weight on the squat. He fights hard to extra yardage and finishes his runs extremely well -- Brown possesses more than a little of the Marion Barber desire to turn the insides of defenders into mush.

The main rap on Brown is that he doesn't have the explosive breakaway speed of Lache Seastrunk or Aaron Green. Of course, when making those comparisons it's easy to forget that few players possess the elite speed of the two aforementioned athletes. When considered as his own player, Brown has plenty of speed and explosiveness, certainly enough to run in the 4.5 range, though 40 times are hard to come by for Brown. He certainly doesn't get caught by anyone from behind in any of his video, which is somewhat to be expected for a player as highly-regarded as Brown, but still speaks to his speed being far from a weakness. 

Perhaps most impressive is that he's not the type of speedster willing to give up momentum in an effort to juke defenders. A true between-the-tackles runner, Brown doesn't want to break everything outside, the major criticism of Lache Seastrunk -- he makes only the necessary cuts at speed and has very good feet, taking the yardage available, then gaining a few more by refusing to go down easily on first contact. When he needs a little extra burst, it's available and if he continues to work hard on his speed and explosiveness over his next two years of high school, there might be some improvement left to make.

(Video after the jump...)

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RB Malcolm Brown #28 Steele HS SOPH (Updated) (via CountdownCityPreps)

Horns_bullet_mediumSolving the Brown vs. Green debate. Or not, actually. I weighed in on this debate rather briefly here, but as one of the most interesting storylines in the 2011 class, it deserves further consideration. Which running back is better? Which running back fits the system better? Would both of them be willing to come to Texas and compete for carries? All compelling questions that won't be answered, in all likelihood, for another year or more.

If Malcolm Brown is similar to Vondrell McGee, then Aaron Green is a rich man's Fozzy Whittaker. Simplistic comparisons, no doubt, but ones that adequately serve the purpose here. Until both of them play on the collegiate level, it will probably be impossible to determine which one is better. In the end, it probably comes down to personal preference and how they fit into the Texas scheme.

McGee and Brown are both downhill runners known for their physicality and while Brown doesn't operate almost exclusively out of the I-formation in high school as did McGee, the concerns about McGee's downhill running fitting into the horizontal, zone-blocking scheme Texas currently employs probably apply to Brown as well. In watching his film, Brown doesn't look like a perfect fit for the Texas scheme, but he also doesn't look like he would have as much trouble adjusting as McGee

Green, however, much like Whittaker, seems like a perfect fit for the Texas scheme with his ability to move horizontally, plant his foot, and explode into the hole. It's almost as if some running backs simply visualize the field better vertically than horizontally, but Green appears to be able to anticipate holes opening while he moves laterally. Especially with larger running backs in the three classes ahead of him, Green feels a major need for the program and fits the scheme extremely well. If Seastrunk ends up somewhere else, as appears increasingly likely, then Green would be the next target to fill the role of home-run threat out of the backfield.

If Green fits the scheme better, should the Longhorns just not offer Malcolm Brown? What if Brown doesn't get an offer and Green goes somewhere else, like USC? What if both get offers and Brown commits first, then Green decides to go elsewhere? There are numerous variables that enter into this discussion that the coaching staff must weigh before offers would go out to Green and/or Brown at the first Junior Day next February. Is there a correct answer? It certainly doesn't seem like it and I can't profess to be able to untangle the logical mess it entails. What I can say, however, is that missing on both of these players, despite the incredible depth of the running back class, would probably classify as a major failure by the coaching staff. Other than that, all I can say is to stay tuned.

Horns_bullet_mediumBig-back Bergeron enters the equation. If Texas does decide to try to take both Brown and Green, it would be because the coaching staff feels that their skill sets complement each other. However, if the staff decides to take only Green, a big back could also figure into the equation and no one fits that bill better than Mesquite's Joe Bergeron. Of course, the staff could even decide to take a third running back in the class if Seastrunk commits elsewhere and both Brown and Green, or any other combination of two running backs from the class, commit to Texas.

Bergeron makes sense if pretty much any of those scenarios because of his versatility. At six feet and 230 pounds (down from a recent 250 ($)), the Mesquite star could play fullback, some h-back, or even serve in a Cody Johnson role as a short-yardage or fourth-quarter tailback. In addition, Bergeron even caught 12 passes ($) as a sophomore, providing exceptional scheme versatility -- in many ways, Bergeron is like the fullback version of Barrett Matthews. Since pure fullbacks are extremely difficult to come by in this era of spread offenses, the lack of other options makes Bergeron even more valuable. Add in the apparent desire of Mack Brown to use a fullback more often in the offense and a Bergeron offer seems like a strong possibility.

Better conditioning factors into the equation as well. Both Major Applewhite and Bobby Kennedy told Bergeron that he looked much faster at his lighter weight and Bergeron confirms that he has more breakaway speed (and a reported 40 time down in the 4.5s) and can move better laterally. Already an aggressive blocker, Bergeron also has the power and quick feet to become a legitimate threat with the ball in his hands. 

Horns_bullet_mediumSelders could fill role as scat-back. Cy Creek's Jermichael Selders may not ever have the size to be an every-down back on the college level. At 5-11, 178-pounds, he's extremely lanky, but has 4.4 to 4.5 speed ($). In fact, enough speed to earn an invitation to the Junior Olympics. Besides pure speed, Selders is much like Aaron Green in his ability to make defenders miss with his ability to jump cut, along with a developed spin move. He is a tough runner for his size, but doesn't always run with good pad level. As a sophomore, he caught 19 passes, proving his ability to be a threat as a receiver with his soft hands and body control. Selders has only camped at Texas this summer.

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Both are very impressive.

If Whaley has a great freshman year at RB, I think we need to make Green our #1 RB target. However, with his size, if we feel Whaley is eventually going to change positions we need to go after both equally emphasizing to both that they compliment each other perfectly. Lightning (Green) and Thunder (Brown) like Lendale White and Chris Johnson.

I think we should give them both offers regardless. If it turns out that Green will only commit if we do not recruit Brown (like the whole Gilbert-Shepard situation), we offer Green. The 2011 RB class is so loaded that we will definitely be looking to take multiple RBs so why not go after the two best in the state?

With Gilbert at the helm starting in 2010, we’ll still be running a spread type of offense and Green fits the bill better.

"Football's so important in Texas. On the West Coast, it's a social. On the East Coast, it's a culture. Here, it's a religion."
-- Major Applewhite

by Sunkist on Jul 2, 2009 7:39 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Whaley is .....

….a DE. He just hasn’t been told yet. At the urging of some business partners, going back to his freshman season, I’ve made 18 of his games. He’s outgrown the position and runs way too upright. Some can pull it (upright) off, but very, very few.

--- All roads to the Big-XII Championship lead through OU/RRS. It's not just another game! We're all about championships here. ---

by HornChamps on Jul 3, 2009 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do you think he’s a legitimate 6’3"? If so, then yeah, he’s a little tall, but Adrian Peterson plays at 6’2" without any trouble, and he runs more upright than Whaley does. AP ran that way in HS, and didn’t change it in college or the NFL. Whaley is about to jump from the micro levels of HS football to major CFB, where he’ll actually have the level of coaching that will break down his running style. His HS coach might be good for his level, but I doubt he’s done much to break down Whaley’s stride. I’ve done some form coaching in my post-track years, and I made a couple of statements in a past thread about how Whaley could improve his stride for football. I think picking up his knees in the open field and shortening his stride in traffic will be the biggest changes he needs to make at the collegiate level, but there’s the chance that he won’t have to do either of those or even worry much about his pad level in college, because college backs can still get away with some of those minor imperfections.

by burntorangehorn on Jul 3, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He is every bit of it.

AD is always the first comparison. Granted their upright running style is very similar, however Whaley’s 2nd and 3rd gears just aren’t the equal of AD’s. Whaley will take more hits and earlier in the play. Don’t get me wrong, Whaley is a heck of a talent! He’s just not an AD. He’ll probably get to play the RB position this season. However, he’s bound for the DE spot next season.

--- All roads to the Big-XII Championship lead through OU/RRS. It's not just another game! We're all about championships here. ---

by HornChamps on Jul 9, 2009 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

nice write-up

It does show shades of the Gilbert-Shepard situation, with the obvious exception that running backs can serve a complementary role (see: Bush, Reggie and White, LenDale) and still be successful, whereas the quarterback position can only be manned one man at a time.

I also imagine, like the Gilbert-Shepard situation, that Mack and team already have their sights set on a primary target, and would be even more conducive to taking the one willing to commit early. I think settling them in scheme is a bit preliminary. After all, I remember when we were complaining that Russell Shepard was a better fit in the “Vince Young” scheme; fast forward a year later, and it seems like Garrett Gilbert is tailor-made for the “Colt McCoy” scheme.

by jc25 on Jul 2, 2009 8:51 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Sick move at 1:17

How does he make that guy miss?

by pleaseplaykindle on Jul 2, 2009 9:08 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I also love what he does at 2:28

"From the waist down, Earl Campbell has the biggest legs I have ever seen on a running back." -John Madden

by run Bevo run on Jul 2, 2009 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can we just have both Green and Brown come to Texas

After beating OU 4 out of the last 5 years, winning a national Title Twice in the last 5 seasons, and having the option to play with one of the best QBs (GG) in the country. I don’t see why they would not.

"I don't ever miss free throws. I'm like 100-percent from the free throw line. I just don't think about missing and if you think about missing you're going to miss. I just take my time and know I'm going to make it and I do," McClellan said.

by blazzinken on Jul 2, 2009 10:41 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

One thing that mystifies me is how a 5’10" or 5’11" height can sometimes be considered a negative with a RB. I know GBR isn’t saying that here, but seriously, Ricky was 5’10" and showed that was no problem. I think 5’9" is about where one might start considering height, because much shorter than that and a guy’s probably not going to have the overall frame to be an every-down back, but there are exceptions even to that (5’8" Barry Sanders, anyone?). But a 5’10" or 5’11" back is actually ideal in my book, because it helps COD and injury-prevention, and it can sometimes make playing with lower pad level a little easier. Plus, heck, in CFB even a 5’6" or 5’7" back can be an all-star, every-down back, as with Jacquizz Rogers, Darren Sproles, Hodges Mitchell, Maurice Drew, etc.

by burntorangehorn on Jul 2, 2009 10:58 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm not sure why Mack likes the taller guys like Whaley and Shead so much right now,

because I would consider 5-9 to about 6-0 the ideal size for a running back, because you want a low center of gravity. Even someone smaller like the guys you mention I think can be extremely effective, though they have more trouble with blitz pick-up. But a guy like Quiz or MJD is really hard to tackle for taller players because they have to break down and get so much lower. I think that was part of the reason that USC really struggled against the Beavers last year.

by GhostofBigRoy on Jul 2, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He always has.

Just look at his time at N.Carolina. While Natrone Means was 5’10", he weighed in at 245. Bill Henderson was 6’1" and 250. Leon Johnson was 6’0" and 230. Jon Linton was 6’1" and 230.

Leopards change their spots…..but rarely.

--- All roads to the Big-XII Championship lead through OU/RRS. It's not just another game! We're all about championships here. ---

by HornChamps on Jul 3, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think all our current guys are less than 6'0" and I am having a hard thinking of anyone else of recent vintage who was tall

Outside of Whaley do we have a RB currently on the team that is legitimately over 6’? I am pretty certain Fozzy, McGee, and Johnson are less than 6’. I thought Fitzhenry was 5’9". Maybe Hills and Newton are taller? Charles is listed at 5’11" on the Chief’s site, but is he even that tall? I though Selvin was a legit 6’0" and he always seemed to look more than an inch taller than Charles or Ramonce Taylor. I also thought Benson came in just under 6’. This is where the silly player height and weight stats ruin things. For all I know Whaley is really just barely 6’0", but when he played on the sophomore basketball squad they decided he ‘looked’ better at 6’3" and so have all his coaches since then.

I do have to admit, with our current running scheme it seems odd to pick any RB who isn’t known first and foremost as elite in their lateral quickness. Unless we really are going to run the ball downhill, it seems the only player that will serve is someone who can quickly find and get to a hole from a full stop.

by Rickyspub on Jul 3, 2009 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t think the scheme is that inflexible. I think the approach could change easily to adapt to the backs. When Benson was in Austin, the running game was very different from how it looked with Mitchell, but somewhat similar to how it looked with Ricky. How it looked with Charles was pretty different from any of the others. Right now it just looks like horse manure. I think it’ll adapt once the coaches feel comfortable that one back or the other has the stuff to take control of a game.

by burntorangehorn on Jul 3, 2009 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope so...

It seems that once we found a lot of success with this version of the offense we have been ‘slow’ to adjust it to our current personnel. Other than Fozzy, it doesn’t seem the other guys are that suited to this zone read running and the fact that the coaches are now explicitly saying they are going back to some downhill formations certainly shows they recognize an issue with the scheme/personnel. I suppose last year with Major just coming into the fold wasn’t exactly the best time to start throwing out revised schemes mid-season, so maybe that is the story for last year. Or maybe its the fact that Fozzy couldn’t stay healthy and he was supposed to be plan A coming out of the off-season.

I just wonder how the coaches get to feel comfortable with someone when the scheme potentially dictates their ability to control the game. Would McGee really look so pedestrian if he were running it out of the I? Is his failure to take the job fully based on his lack of ability or his lack of ability in the current scheme?

I do think in looking at our RB recruiting we aren’t really recruiting to a scheme but we are collecting talent and hoping it pans out. I hope we see some flexibility that allows someone to take control of the running game but doesn’t force us into choosing a particular type of back rather than just the ‘best’.

by Rickyspub on Jul 6, 2009 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He always tried...

…..for the bigger back. Some rebuffed the advances, some played and some screwed up.

Ivan Williams – 6’1", 245
Erik Hardeman – 6’1", 215
Tyrone Richardson – 6’2", 235
Chad Stevens – 6’4", 245
Jason Barron – 6’2", 242
Chris Robertson – 6’1, 215
Henry Melton – 6’3", 270

--- All roads to the Big-XII Championship lead through OU/RRS. It's not just another game! We're all about championships here. ---

by HornChamps on Jul 4, 2009 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think this is a bit of a stretch...

Except for Melton and Hardeman, all these guys were recruited prior to 2000. That 2000 squad that had Williams, Richardson, Robertson, and Stevens also had Hodges Mitchell and Richard Hightower both under 5’ 9" and a host of other under 6’ guys. Whaley was offered by pretty much everyone in the Big 12. Shead, Charles, and Melton were all offered by A&M, not a school known for recruiting only big backs. Jaquizz Rodgers (5’6") didn’t get any Big 12 offers outside of Baylor, so I don’t think Mack is only coach not falling over himself to get short RBs.

You may be correct that in his UNC and early Texas days Mack was enamored of the big back but that doesn’t seem to play out over the past 7 or 8 years. It seems to me Mack just focuses on the best in state regardless of their height. Seastrunk isn’t that tall. We passed on two 6’ guys in Cyrus Gray and Jermie Calhoun a couple of years ago though they were both certainly ‘Texas good’ (of course, Calhoun was reported to be a grade risk otherwise I am sure he would have been offered). In fact we passed on Gray but took Fitzhenry, Hales, Hills, and Roberson all of whom are 5’10" or less.

From 2003 starting with Hardeman until the just signed 2009 class we have had 4 guys over 6’ commit (that includes Jammal Charles, who I don’t think was ever close to the 6’1" he was listed at in HS) and 6 guys under 6’ commit. In fact, we were the only team to finish in the top 10 last year that didn’t have at least one back over 6’ on the roster.

by Rickyspub on Jul 6, 2009 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do yourself a little favor.

Go visit with the recruiting guys from OB, Inside Texas and BurntOrangeBeat. Everyone of them will assure you that Mack lusts for the big back every season. No offense, but their knowledge of the situation is far beyond your own.

Traylon Shead (6’2", 210 and just a JR) and Chris Whaley (6’3", 240) obviously affirm the above.

--- All roads to the Big-XII Championship lead through OU/RRS. It's not just another game! We're all about championships here. ---

by HornChamps on Jul 9, 2009 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just haven't seen it since Melton played...

I am sure they are more knowledgeable than I am…if I wanted to pay for a subscription then I would ask them why there is a dearth of big backs from 2002 until the Whaley signing and if they really think Mack goes out of his way to get the big backs. I have a feeling the answer would be that there just hasn’t been that much big-back talent in-state outside of AD (whom everyone coveted). This says to me that while Mack might love the big back he certainly isn’t reaching down the talent list just to make sure he has a big back to put in the line-up, which would be the case if he really ‘lusted’ for them.

If he really lusted for big backs, why didn’t Melton start and why did he ultimately switch positions? If Mack is so tied to the big back then shouldn’t performance be damned? One thing I haven’t like about Mack’s coaching is his ‘skins on the wall’ mentality over in-game performance. So Mack is obviously not immune to making an emotional call over a rational one, so I would expect his ‘lust’ for the big back to trump performance. That just hasn’t been the case both in terms of recruiting and on-the-field personnel.

by Rickyspub on Jul 14, 2009 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think calling Barry Sanders 5’8" is giving him too much credit… An old friend of mine compared him to a sphere. No matter how you turned him, his center of gravity remained the same. You can’t really knock over a sphere.

by UT_BKC on Jul 2, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I stood next to Barry a number of times, and he’s definitely about 5’8". And the thing is, in plain old gym clothes, his chest and arms weren’t all that impressively built for a guy of his ability. What were amazing were his abs, which seemed to stick out further than his pecs, and then of course his legs, which were like tree trunks. And dude could dunk like you wouldn’t believe.

by burntorangehorn on Jul 3, 2009 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brown kid

Kid reminds me of LT when he was at TCU. Dude was a beast to bring down.

by TexasGarcia37 on Jul 2, 2009 11:18 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

WHat are the odds

that we miss out on both Brown and Green? Looking at our track record It wouldn’t surprise me

by owenh on Jul 2, 2009 12:37 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

If that happens ....

If we miss out on both of those dudes and Leche – I would jettison or transfer Major Applewhite. This is Texas dammit and we need a home-run hitter back that makes you hold your breath every time he touches the ball.

by realmccoy on Jul 2, 2009 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would put it at less than 20% right now.

There are whispers that Green really likes USC and Brown might favor OU at this point, but I think both of them like Texas enough that at least one should end up in burnt orange.

by GhostofBigRoy on Jul 2, 2009 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brown has some serious power

I would love to see him in Burnt Orange. I suspect that we will get 2 great RBs in 2011—if Green and Brown don’t jump on their offers, the interesting part will be what will Coach Brown do. If he offers two other RBs and they commit, does he pull Brown’s and Green’s offers. There is so much talent with 6 or 7 elite RBs in 2011 it is going to put a little more pressure on Brown and Green to decide early if they want Texas or not. It will be interesting, but I hope Brown is the first commit to class of 2011.

by jkovach on Jul 3, 2009 10:28 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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